[01:23:37] what a deal [01:23:52] chinese spyware for one month nitro (for first time nitro users only) [01:23:57] need a car obvi [01:24:03] d [01:24:04] card [12:58:35] not a wiki.gg person saying that Miraheze is not reliable because of the merger [12:58:47] on twitter [12:59:18] I thought you guys are in direct competitions w/ Fandom over gaming wikis [13:22:32] 😂 [13:22:36] Miraheze was never meant to be direct compete w/ Fandom [13:23:08] You would be very mistaken, Fandom is one of the biggest wikifarms we compete with [13:23:29] the og tweet was about Miraheze being harder than Fandom to manage and Gamepedia just got mentioned in a reply [13:23:39] oh [13:23:39] and this reply is like [13:23:51] I mean Fandom is a more gaming focus wikifarm [13:24:02] Meanwhile MH just host everything possible [13:24:11] it wasn't about stability, it was about learning curve, and isn't wiki.gg also barebones when you start it from scratch lol [13:24:16] I mean its not really a competition when Fandom constantly loses wikis to us [13:24:54] since when [13:25:26] wookipedia, dr who, harry potter, disney wikis being on of the most biggest [13:25:32] Aren't they mostly focus on gaming and certain movies/anime stuffs? [13:25:40] entertainment [13:25:48] oh yea, that^ [13:26:47] music counts here too, but admittedly there's not much music wikis on Fandom as of other types [13:26:57] Duran Duran Wiki is pretty big [13:27:48] The learning curve is always hard with MW, no one can't escape that. [13:27:55] Not even Fandom [13:28:11] Fandom just create an illusion of "our software is easy to use" [13:28:36] I don't understand folks saying fandom is easy, man, the amount of time I invested into learning templates in 2016 Wikia by looking at big wikis [13:29:01] it hasn't changed [13:30:28] Miraheze is like still biggest and now oldest competitor to Fandom [13:30:37] in free wiki hoating [13:30:38] Yea [13:30:53] just largely remains obscure [13:30:55] somehow [13:30:57] If you mean free wiki hosting, MH is likely one of the biggest names out there [13:31:10] It is because most people use custom domains [13:31:27] cough no article on wikipedia cough [13:32:15] As far as I know, many big wiki based on MH platform use custom domains and hence why people think MH is small [13:32:56] Are we eligible for a wp article notability wise <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [13:33:26] there was an attempt and it got dunked because of lack of reliable sources [13:33:35] a page on mediawiki.org, sure [13:34:16] there's still a discussion about miraheze article on wikipedia, I think [13:34:44] > A topic is presumed to be suitable for a stand-alone article or list when it has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject [13:34:51] like, I guess wiki.gg can get now one after some journal writing a blog post solely about them [13:34:58] us? we just exist lol [13:36:03] Where’s my pen I’m writing to every journalist I find on google [13:36:37] I think SouthParkFan was interviewed like once [13:36:43] one of the founders [13:36:50] Huh [13:37:14] Unless every big wikis on MH returns to miraheze.org, people will perceive MH as a "small wikifarm" [13:37:46] like [13:38:06] it was same before WikiTide forks [13:38:10] idk [13:38:26] ah, wait I get it [13:38:28] sorry [13:38:42] WikiTide is too small to even exist [13:38:46] 💀 [13:38:56] I look for Miraheze in the news and scroll down to find div art [13:39:24] I meant big wikis like AVID or polball who forked and now are getting back, technically [13:39:50] I mean, I got custom domain for my wiki, and we at PTW are also thinking about getting one [13:40:31] but I didn't known about ABXY until Hollow Knight Wiki fork [13:40:53] and the fact that they host Zelda Wiki and the likes [13:41:53] The tiny little hosted by badge at the bottom don’t help [13:42:23] ^right [13:42:40] Noone really care at the badges at the bottom [13:43:05] Strongest signal to tell if a wiki is MH or not is to use MH domain [13:43:06] Huh https://zhww.fandom.com/zh/wiki/Miraheze [13:45:15] https://wikipediocracy.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=12497 .-. [13:52:49] I think I know what's this topic about [13:53:38] the wikis in question been long gone already [13:54:39] Bit annoying the only external news I find is from forums [13:54:45] exactly [13:55:02] Now how do we fix that <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [13:55:20] but nobody wants to have a brand in URL ... like ... FaNdOm [13:56:10] hoping some reliable indie journo will get inspired by mossbag vid to make a well researched article /shrug [13:56:13] Pretty sure wiki.gg also don't allow custom url [13:56:19] yeah [13:56:31] wiki.gg is more recognised than Mira now [13:56:33] Us being Better is also shooting ourselves in the foot [13:56:35] Fuck [13:57:10] the Gamepedia 2 rep is also helping [13:57:16] I think there’s a meme format for this but idk what it is [13:57:33] It's crazy that some of big MH wikis I found doesn't look like MH in the first place [13:57:41] like [13:57:46] We could try and reach out ourselves <:trout:1109647945470582866> [13:57:47] Until you scroll at the bottom to see any traces of MH [13:58:50] Wikipediocracy, the world’s most unreliable source of information [13:59:00] No that’s reddit [13:59:08] No even reddit would be a step up [14:00:40] Literally just scrolled through one of my other discords where someone suggested us moving our wiki from fandom to wiki gg(we want to move to self hosted but fandom lock in) LMAO [14:06:16] I mean, at least it's only one type of wikis [14:07:25] Miraheze still has no competition in wordbuilding, personal projecta or just OC collections + fanon + possibility of private wikis [14:07:39] ^ [14:07:55] Our only “competition” just become part of us [14:08:00] They also don’t host a wiki for NATO [14:08:10] people still fall for fandom when they want to make an OC wiki, only to find it to be permanently deleted by its staff [14:08:31] Wait, talking about NATO then if Miraheze moves to the US, what happen to that wiki? [14:08:39] nothing [14:08:40] <:ThinkerMH:912930078646730792> [14:08:56] I feel there’s a political cartoon to be made here [14:09:28] https://cyberlaw.ccdcoe.org/wiki/Main_Page [14:10:11] And yes i have that URL memorized [14:14:10] wut [14:14:16] they removed stickers? [14:14:21] even mediawiki [14:16:05] 💀 [14:16:10] You’d think that’s not allowed [14:16:32] I thought so lol [14:16:59] I mean, it's sure possible w/ CSS [14:17:02] The footer still mentions miraheze [14:17:17] yeah [14:17:17] Oh fuck it does [14:17:19] Barely [14:17:39] but what mediawiki did to you lol [14:18:19] https://tenor.com/view/freddy-dance-freddy-dance-gif-20078036 [14:19:28] Lol, their FAQ mentions it alot though [17:55:58] [1/2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Skin:DarkVector Look what I have found. Sadly it's unmaintained so it might need a little bit of [[care]] and [[attention]] to bring it up to the same quality as the new Vector skin used by Wikipeida. [17:55:58] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/care https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/attention [17:55:58] [2/2] Anyone would be interested to work together on this? [17:55:59]

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[2/2] [17:56:42] I did not expect the bot to catch the wikitext. Good to know. [17:58:13] [1/2] This could look really good, at this point AWB and Huggle could also do with a little bit of love [17:58:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1193614585568186519/794c94e50cf053dd.png?ex=65ad5b35&is=659ae635&hm=e8cea26979c9b4a1afc2ebec2020cab2b3b5312f2cfdff16f4735352d9085238& [18:22:11] I think it's easier to bring up theme toggler an code a proper dark mode [18:22:40] theme toggler is a wiki.gg developed extension, prime example is Terraria Wiki [18:39:28] I was thinking of makign a dedicated darkmode skin: `VectorTwilight` and `MonobookTwilight`