[00:50:21] who felt the need to mkae this [00:50:21] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:MediaWiki_logo_with_overlaid_uwu_emoticon.png [01:01:42] Is Labster(and Owen) the only current directors that didn't come back from WT? [01:01:50] though Void stayed as one [01:06:29] oh well [01:50:07] Labster and Owen are staying on as directors, Void is continuing as director at present. [01:50:41] *not [01:51:10] Would have thought Void would continue and Owen would dip, given his user page [01:52:30] 🤷 life is weird, we'll also be holding community seat elections in the coming months, so hopefully we'll continue with a well rounded board at the end of this process. [01:53:04] guys im gonna run for director :trol: (jk) [01:57:47] So there is gonna be a void left by Void? 😛 [01:59:58] booooooo [02:03:42] hello everyone [03:41:23] Random question/dilemma for everyone [03:41:37] So let's say I developed a mod for a game [03:42:27] Skip to 2022, developer A saw my mod and decided to revive it and make updates beyond what I've previously done [03:42:48] Does the mod belong to me now or does it belong to developer A? [03:43:37] You still own the original mod, while developer A owns the new one [03:44:30] So the mod is basically split into two then, where I'd own the 2020 version and developer A owns the 2022 version? [03:44:59] Yes [03:45:07] 👍 [04:38:38] are all community seats up for grabs? [04:38:45] or are current members' terms set [07:44:22] [1/3] how cute [07:44:22] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1198533532474167316/IMG_20240121_104241.jpg?ex=65bf4055&is=65accb55&hm=99c5ecf8e21a25830c07d5c478c341bdbe250ee6df16f2f62fcb0b0db21b7e8d& [07:44:23] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1198533532797112320/20240121_104248.jpg?ex=65bf4055&is=65accb55&hm=16de90dd8079166108f66c8b54637c4c933ff38f4591b3122ba7930f298a4394& [10:19:15] <.labster, replying to bwm0> All 4 seats will be available (which means two are still vacant) [10:41:51] <.labster, replying to etherealtraveller> Copyright is theft, information belongs to everyone [10:42:22] Oh no there's no stealing involved, in the context of my scenario I would have made the mod open source [10:42:56] <.labster> I know, I'm just being a little anarchist today. [10:43:00] I c [10:43:34] <.labster> I write fanfiction and I've spent a lot of time thinking about this particular problem. [10:44:47] <.labster> In the old days, people would tell and retell stories and there was no such thing as ownership of what people could say, or even write. [10:45:42] <.labster> And then kings appeared and started killing people for saying the wrong things. (Okay mobs and tribal taboos existed before but it still got worse) [10:46:19] Kings were always kind of there weren't they [10:46:28] It was just a lot more unofficial back then [10:47:00] But yeah copyright definitely didn't exist back then [10:47:00] <.labster> But fundamentally remixing existing knowledge is a human right. But at the same time, in the immortal words of Andrew Ryan, "Is man not entitled to the sweat of his own brow?" [10:47:31] That I agree with [10:49:06] <.labster> What's kind of focused me on this lately is that I've been thinking of writing some LotR fic, and Tolkien was at least somewhat opposed to other people writing in his worlds, because he spent all of that time coming up with those new words and it wouldn't be fair for others to use them. [10:51:13] <.labster> But he licensed a few adaptations. And he has this whole concept of the primary world and secondary worlds -- the idea that God had done original Creation, and authors can create a secondary world (i.e. fictional universe) based on the Creation in which we live. [10:52:00] <.labster> But, like, doesn't this mean his own fictional work in Middle-earth is fanfic of God's world? [13:15:43] I need something to hit [13:25:28] Also an I the only one getting an impression of [13:25:28] https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-fire-house-burning-okay-gif-5263684 [13:38:21] it's more like they started paying of out their pockets to try keep people out of new wiki [13:38:33] at least I got such impression [13:41:38] To use the language of goofy internet gaming communities [13:41:46] https://tenor.com/view/cat-cope-cursed-gif-25667684 [14:23:26] [1/2] Fandom moment [14:23:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1198633960809435296/image0.jpg?ex=65bf9ddd&is=65ad28dd&hm=ba32f7f763c670a75dd71b97b9601c2641946d1a0fc025b5d77d7c56b36730b2& [14:29:47] Miraheze Mario Kart when??? [14:30:05] Miraheze Podcast x Mario Kart???? [14:40:34] No legit can we do a Mira game night [14:40:39] Pweeeeaaassee [17:45:45] winner gets 'crat rights on meta for a day :p [17:51:56] most useless role in the world for sure [18:47:23] Nah that’s rollback [18:48:24] it's gone though! [18:58:08] 😮 [18:58:14] 😂 [19:01:17] Or maybe it never existed, but due to memory-altering technology, we simply thought it did [19:24:53] we deleted rollbacker? [19:41:39] yeah, the RfC passed [19:42:01] well I didn't actually delete the role as I'm not sure that won't cause issues but it won't be granted anymore [19:42:07] see DMs real quick [19:42:15] just add rollback to patroller i assume [19:42:29] yes, that was done [19:43:08] makes sense [19:43:12] were any other changes made? [19:43:14] or just that [19:44:34] you can check https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Meta_usergroups_reform [19:44:39] but no other _major_ changes [19:45:03] honestly would just recommend deleting it - i don't think it will? [19:45:08] or just remove rollbacker (and add patroller) to all users that have it [19:47:36] oh wait that was done [19:47:37] doh [19:47:57] Removing the right should be fine if no one is in it [19:48:11] You can leave the interface messages around so old logs don't break [19:48:27] no one is, just looked [19:48:39] what's that archive template for pages that are retained for historical use? [19:49:04] {{historical}} [19:49:04] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:historical [19:49:05]

[19:49:14] But that shouldn't be added to interface messages [19:49:24] Only things like policy pages [19:49:34] yeah - am adding to Meta:Rollbackers [19:49:38] ty [19:51:43] yes but we won't be able to grant users the right on other wikis remotely through Special:UserRights via `userrights-interwiki` [19:52:13] oh - so it has to exist on Miraheze? [19:52:18] on Meta, yeah [19:52:26] Fair but do you often? [19:52:33] it has happened, yes [19:52:41] like maybe 9 months ago lol [19:52:44] we can look at how that could be fixed [19:52:54] iirc that's a decade old WMF Phab task [20:24:15] dang [20:40:53] I just realized between Friday and Saturday I only got roughly 7 hours of sleep. [20:44:50] Most MH volunteers seem to struggle with sleep 😄 [20:45:13] side effect of using discord [20:45:22] lol [20:45:34] Today I got 11 hours [20:45:36] but yeah [20:45:48] The joys of having a messed up sleep schedule [20:51:20] i gotta go in 10 min but filling a task lol [20:52:10] is it... another _bug_? [20:52:55] [1/2] I love bugs [20:52:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1198731975188545556/image.gif?ex=65bff926&is=65ad8426&hm=548f3fa3cdd4f02d1531965e92591a5a9dd931b47e29dc629731e70c0fceaaaa& [20:54:46] spiders aren't bugs :xsob: [20:56:27] Is that a bug? [21:00:13] Gif search disagrees for some dumb reason 😭 [21:00:21] not officially [21:00:24] imma sleep [21:00:25] 0:00 [21:00:27] bye [21:00:43] night [21:28:24] Good afternoon