[00:37:15] <.labster> OMG my neighborhood is gentrifying. I just saw a pair of bicycles in front of a house with a sign on them saying “FREE”. [00:37:57] <.labster> In the old days, the bikes would have been gone before you could come back outside to put the sign on. [00:46:13] LOL [00:48:07] [1/2] Talking about Bicycles: [00:48:07] [2/2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pDeAphImZCw [00:54:37] Ah yes, the dutch [00:55:37] 😄 [00:55:52] More bikes than cars [08:35:43] Old days? You picked the right area and that would still happen [08:36:25] There's a YouTube video which they look at which is the most trusted UK Capital City and one of the tests is how long it takes for a bike to be nicked [08:47:50] <.labster> That’s what I mean, I’ve had two bikes stolen from my front yard in under 5 minutes and now I see bikes in my own neighborhood waiting to be picked up. This gentrification is getting out of control! [14:29:39] [1/2] > This gentrification is getting out of control! [14:29:39] [2/2] is it gentrification, though? [16:03:24] https://twitter.com/anniierau/status/1756222048232157293 [16:14:40] 😄 Why doesn't that surprise me? LOL [16:32:02] ratshit [16:32:07] have never heard that before [18:03:05] Who hates the new Discord UI Update ( use: ❌ To Show that you hate it ) [18:26:00] [1/6] I haven't noticed that there was an update. [18:26:00] [2/6] Tip: You shouldn't jump on a discord channel and steer away from the discussed topics to get attention 😛 [18:26:01] [3/6] I mean... What do you try to accomplish? [18:26:01] [4/6] The same with the MediaWiki wiki's on Mediawiki, Miraheze and Fandom. [18:26:01] [5/6] It's kinda disruptive! [18:26:02] [6/6] Just some good advice to take with you for the future, as you'll get the same irritated answers you got here. [18:31:22] I know 😅 [18:35:27] LOL, And you wonder why the wiki request was declined 🤣 [20:03:26] that certainly was a user on the internet [20:18:24] yeah. crazy. Just another loser with nothing to do [21:01:29] ANI is always a great read [21:19:43] wikipedia: join for the knowledge, stay for the juicy juice gossip [21:20:56] Whahaha [21:21:01] they do say to [[w:WP:Break all rules]], after all [21:21:01] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:Break_all_rules [21:21:02]

[21:21:03] I wonder how big the entire ANI is [21:21:14] Across all archives [21:21:27] I could probably make a script to find out [21:21:57] [[w:WP:ANI]] [21:21:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:ANI [21:21:58]

[21:22:08] It's a shame that they don't have the Ignore the Diva's page anymore [21:22:23] Oh? [21:23:43] 1,338,870 edits total oof [21:24:55] Well, it's in policy after all [21:24:59] [[WP:IAR]] [21:24:59] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:IAR [21:25:00]

[21:25:19] that ought to include the rule that says wikipedia is not social media!!! [21:25:36] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don%27t_feed_the_divas [21:25:43] there it was. [21:25:43] can someone please think of the drama-mongers who only edit ANI!? [21:26:04] no thank you [21:26:22] June 2022-June 2023 was enough drama for me [21:26:43] It used to be an essay about Wikipedians that announced loudly they were leaving and then stayed around to see if they got any support of "please stay" [21:27:04] They were called Diva's [21:27:21] I know those by the name of [[W:LANCB]]ers [21:27:21] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/W:LANCB [21:27:22]

[21:27:34] [[w:WP:LANCB]] oops [21:27:34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:LANCB [21:27:36]

[21:27:37] So often that lable was thrown around, and they decided to hide that essay [21:28:20] Yeah, links to the same article now [21:28:38] There was drama in June 2022? [21:30:07] probably [21:30:18] I doubt the ones who were around there are going to discuss it openly tho [21:31:56] https://web.archive.org/web/20130424124454/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don't_feed_the_divas [21:32:08] Thank god for the Waybackmachine [21:33:38] I was just gonna send it myself 😆 [21:33:49] https://web.archive.org/web/20150618181933/https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Don't_feed_the_divas [21:33:49] [1/15] ```The following are tell-tale signs that you are dealing with a Wikipedia diva: [21:33:49] [2/15] Frequent threats to leave [21:33:49] [3/15] The diva's primary weapon, and they use it often. Blocking a diva for any reason (it will always be wrong) invariably provokes their early retirement. They retire in a huff, but rarely stay away for more than a few days. Divas are compelled to remind others of how much the wiki would suck even more if they weren't around to fix it. [21:33:50] [4/15] Argumentative in petty disputes [21:33:50] [5/15] There is no issue too small for a diva; disputes are more about getting their way than getting it right. They are known to bully their way over "inferior" editors with a panache that befits their status as a diva. [21:33:50] [6/15] Frequent citation of personal perceived "rewards" in disputes [21:33:51] [7/15] Divas want others to think they are indispensable to the project and frequently promote their own value via their edit count, Did you knows, Good articles, Featured articles, etc. Divas often have elaborate user pages which tout their contributions. By excessively reiterating their own perceived value, they are implicitly denigrating their opponent's value, which is a form of valida [21:33:51] [8/15] tion. [21:33:51] [9/15] Rudeness to the helpers [21:33:51] [10/15] Divas can't be bothered by the "little people" and are known to be extremely uncivil to those who are beneath them. If you can't fully conform to the diva's view, you may find yourself cast as a less valuable member of the community. [21:33:52] [11/15] "Consensus is flawed" [21:33:52] [12/15] Divas tend to feel that community consensus is far less important than their own consensus: that of themselves and their wikibuddies. IAR is often used as the justification for not listening to the community, but other policies tend to fall far by the wayside with the diva. [21:33:53] [13/15] An Entourage [21:33:53] [14/15] ´´´ [21:33:54] [15/15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1206352415247306852/message.txt?ex=65dbb23c&is=65c93d3c&hm=2413242051aac53e1f0d8ebe55c5b01c598b5ab9d17554f45d327fad55502f25& [21:33:55] Bit newer [21:34:05] [1/5] ´´´A truly successful diva has a loyal following. Editors that question a diva's behavior often find themselves attacked by fervent supporters. Administrator pals are most valued to the diva, and threats to block those that step on a diva's toes are effective tools in the enabling process. [21:34:05] [2/5] Long memory [21:34:06] [3/5] Repeatedly brings up "grievances" from the past. Doesn't let go of grudges. Nothing is too old to bring up repeatedly. [21:34:06] [4/5] Hypocrisy [21:34:06] [5/5] A diva rarely, if ever, admits to engaging in: edit-warring, assuming bad faith, disruptive editing, battling, harassment, making personal attacks, or owning things. Only their opponents do this, and they do it constantly. A diva is so rarely wrong that their extraordinary "specialness" means that no fault could possibly lie with them in a dispute.´´´ [21:36:34] that article's tone sure has changed over the years [21:37:06] Yup. On nl.wikipedia we had a few of those. Big buddies with the admins [21:37:44] I had my run-ins with one of them as well which led to an arbcome case 😛 [21:38:41] You were involved in an AC? [21:38:42] [1/2] I was basically just as bad then with not avoiding him, so often had arguments with him. [21:38:42] [2/2] Not a good time to look back to [21:38:53] tell me about it [21:39:08] yup. We weren't allowed to communicate anymore [21:39:18] not even to reference eachother 😄 [21:39:29] Looking back it was so childish [21:39:40] hindsight is 20/20 after all [21:39:46] But I was in a bad period of my life back then [21:39:49] very easy once you have the full context [21:39:57] true [21:40:41] He doubted and questioned every edit I made, which drove me crazy [21:41:19] And every article I wrote had to be rewritten as I had no higher education like him. [21:42:15] And I ofcourse had to try to pull him of his high horse. So stupid [21:42:59] unfortunately we can't delete what we put on-wiki, it will forever live in the page histories [21:43:06] That's one of the reasons I quite editing Wiki's for about 4 or 5 years I guess [21:43:06] nothing to do but learn from our mistakes [21:43:58] True. The off-Wiki period was a blessing though. [21:44:26] It gave me time to put distance and perspective [21:45:03] yeah, stepping away from the computer during drama always seems so obvious, but we forget to do that in the heat of the moment [21:45:27] ultimately it is just internet drama between two nobodies, not worth it 99.99% of the time [21:45:30] correct. [21:46:12] But that guy had so many edits on his userpage stating he left Wikipedia, then a few days later he returned again. [21:46:25] A real light switch 😄 [21:46:38] 😆 [21:47:43] And to think that he was a local politician in the North of the Netherlands 😄 Poor city 😄 [21:47:58] Reminded me a bit of smt I saw on AN [21:48:06] Regarding the unblock of an editor [21:49:10] Koavf I believe [21:49:29] The 5th largest editor on EN WP [21:49:48] 2,159,571 edits [21:50:19] 😮 [21:50:38] goodnight people, it is 22:50 where I live and got IRL stuff tomorrow [21:50:49] Same time here [21:50:55] And a block list longer then a CVS receipt [21:50:59] Good Night @bluemoon0332 [21:51:01] UTC+1 gang where you at [21:51:06] Good night Orang, and Ro [21:51:12] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Log?type=block&user=&page=User%3AKoavf&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist [21:51:24] Denmark [21:51:29] Spain [21:51:39] The AN was very split but ultimately stayed unblocked for now [21:51:45] (I'm not going to bed yet @pixldev [21:51:50] Oh my bad [21:52:06] I can look for it if anyone wants [21:52:14] Warmer then here mate. 0° and rain/snow [21:52:43] Nah, best leave it in the past [21:52:57] Here it finally rained where I live, thought we were going to have another record drought before even the summer started [21:53:07] looks like another infernal summer awaits me yet again [21:53:52] Well, take a vacation up North with the Vikings. We only have rain and an ocassional sunshine [21:54:10] Oh how I wish I could go north! [21:54:11] Hence so many of us go to Spain for vacation [21:54:30] I'm stuck on Southern Spain (Andalusia) [21:54:57] Oh dear. Yeah I saw the heat map a few weeks ago [21:55:38] I could barely even sleep last summer because of the heat, not looking forward to that at all [21:55:47] And limited water supply [21:55:54] alright, I'm disconnecting for real now, gn [21:56:03] Good night [22:06:33] <.labster> Meanwhile it’s 18°C right now in California, not a cloud in the sky [22:08:18] please translate that to american [22:08:31] how many Freedom Degrees is it? [22:11:41] According to my estimated exact calculation, it's 66°F [22:12:21] I am dissapointed in you fake british people! [22:12:27] celsius for the win! [22:12:47] eagle noises [22:13:17] Don't you dare say that within 3 blue ways of our great country 🇺🇸 [22:13:29] _lets all go back to measuring temperature in kelvins_ [22:14:47] Who needs the lamestream temperature scales? I say that it's 100 Yoshi degrees [22:15:01] Smh do you know how many super bowl seasons it [22:16:17] <.labster> I can’t wait for Taylor to declare Biden the winner of the Super Bowl [22:17:04] This is gonna be interesting [22:17:26] I went camping last night and they were talking about it at the camp fire [22:17:42] "If Taylor wins, white girls win." interesting convo [22:18:25] <.labster, replying to pixldev> I kinda want more details on this [22:20:53] One of the guys in my Scouting Troop said it last night lol [22:21:58] <.labster> I’m also moderately concerned that today could turn into a repeat of the [[w:Nika riots]]. Just a little bit. [22:21:58] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nika_riots [22:22:00]

[22:23:30] I mean Celsius is just a shifted kelvin, so most of the world kinda already does that [22:24:33] <.labster> Yes, we should all use Rankine degrees instead [22:35:51] Wasn't the first to vote on new RfC, RIP [22:36:07] Which one [22:36:25] The Content/Dormancy Policy update RfC [22:37:01] What’s the deets? Ill look over it closely later today [22:44:46] privacy policy abolished, time to sell data :trollgod: [22:44:53] (obvious joke, icymi) [22:47:41] Now it’s my turn to ask- icymi? [22:48:07] in case you missed the joke [22:48:44] ah [22:49:45] what are the channels besides agent becoming big brother? [23:16:54] [1/2] guys petition to get our favorite chairman @.labster to change his discord profile image to [23:16:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1206378357571190877/image.gif?ex=65dbca65&is=65c95565&hm=c8cf3b1a40e493ae27f362803aa5b8d153f9bd21b3ccda400a7c0a5bda479fc0& [23:17:04] :wiztroll: [23:17:30] <.labster> I should change my pic [23:17:45] @ everyone please vote [23:17:48] very time sensitive [23:17:51] chairman change your profile to the chair man [23:18:04] Gotta put it on the global banner [23:22:28] We can’t do @ everyone :agony: [23:22:37] Sale ends in 5 minutes; buy buy buy or you'll cry cry cry! [23:22:42] but we can do @here [23:22:48] :Troll: [23:22:54] well I can’t [23:23:01] fortunately for all parties involved [23:23:40] get this man a chair costume!!!! [23:24:12] we need a new fundraiser: buy labster a chair costume [23:30:37] My fellow Americans, time to watch people tackle each other and kick balls and pray for the downfall of rhe Swifties [23:31:37] :salute: 🇺🇸 🦅 🏈 [23:32:22] (I know absolutely nothing about football and am not American by birth) [23:50:05] How many votes do I need to force you