[00:02:11] Maybe a dementia welcome bot that welcomes users every time they send a message [00:03:36] [1/2] every time? [00:03:36] [2/2] Hey @pixldev! Welcome to the Miraheze Discord server! Be sure to read our code of conduct thing and verify with @dementia_rat! [00:05:29] LOL [00:06:25] Hey @rodejong! Welcome to the Miraheze Discord server! Be sure to read our code of conduct thing and verify with @dementia_rat! [00:08:19] [1/3] I think I have to have a dog bot that barks [00:08:19] [2/3] Hey @pixldev ! Welcome to the Miraheze Discord server! MIND YOUR OWN BUISNESS [00:08:19] [3/3] 😄 [00:08:49] :Kek: [02:29:09] [1/2] thats not british english [02:29:09] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207151514544513044/e31H9Xu.png?ex=65de9a74&is=65cc2574&hm=8dc9293eacde45c8301d829aefa6ba373c95b5ce0e555b41dc07119b60beab1c& [02:43:09] An alternate universe where the Eastern Europeans won the war [02:43:43] But it's Ukraine probably? [02:46:46] ah prob [02:48:49] [1/3] Now I do wonder, what actually is British english vs American english in short form? [02:48:49] [2/3] Cause en is English, uk is Ukraine.. [02:48:49] [3/3] gb would probably turn out to be Gibraltar or something lol [02:49:53] <.labster> en-gb, en-us [02:50:10] https://github.com/1VORK/WikiAuthBot/tree/master/Wiki [02:50:28] en-gb 🤨 [02:50:35] That's cheating, but yeah okay. XD That works I guess. [02:51:39] well may need the same for Portuguese [02:51:49] br is bulgarian [02:51:51] <.labster> You’d think en-au would exist but it’s actually “st” for Strayan [02:52:02] so pt-br, pt-eu [02:52:30] Australians have no rights lab [02:53:13] <.labster, replying to pixldev> gb2 prison, right? [02:58:59] i think I may have goofed in that owner only apps don't really like, well authentication [02:59:26] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207159135615979563/ncPdtWc.png?ex=65dea18d&is=65cc2c8d&hm=d8205429d26bce2abcbe41f208c9949e5f210d479c9b8d4179dd1a2f7808bb69& [02:59:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207159135926227044/YPrURS8.png?ex=65dea18d&is=65cc2c8d&hm=28d8df587fe6de68a53b04ef6ee782748bb204d8872b9310b0d27ad531b635db& [02:59:30] im not very smart! [02:59:42] oh well i guess ill have to make one tmr [03:01:06] I mean I don't even know what you're trying to do so that probably makes you at least a little bit smart. lol [03:01:13] I have no idea how to delete it so ig ill keep it [03:01:30] you know how we have two dementia ridden auth bots? [03:01:43] @WikiAuthBot @Wiki-Bot [03:01:49] yeah im making a third [03:01:55] :SunglassesThumbsUp: [03:02:12] so one of them has to work at any given time right? [03:02:13] lol Maybe, I'm not too in the loop but if it relates to how I really struggled to authorise my account a while ago, then yes. X) I do know. [03:04:09] my poor code hasnt even been commited and i already invoked CA's wrath [03:04:11] new record! [03:05:07] en-au is in fact valid but I don't think it's used in the MediaWiki software. There is also en-bz, -ca, -ie and a few others I can't think of right now. [03:05:22] be??? [03:05:46] bz = Belize [03:06:11] h u h [03:06:31] I'm mostly American en-uk was enough of a leap as is [03:06:33] :Kek: [03:07:52] en-uk isn't valid, its en-gb for Great Britain rather than United Kingdom [03:08:12] anyways @agentisai mind if I put in a request for a non owner only consumer cause uh im stoopid and an application and dont support authentication is not super cool for making an auth bot a:Pensive_motion: im a great dev trust [03:08:25] i hate that more [03:08:48] Actually I may be wrong, IIRC, some software actually do accept en-uk [03:09:44] there is also some weird en- one for the Caribbean also [03:10:09] en-029 [03:11:05] Intriguing... I don't see English Australian variations much at all. Usually we'll use en-gb, and then we'll also use an American style keyboard so.. fml I guess. XD [03:15:32] en-au is rarly used but its a valid ISO language code [07:27:00] [1/2] just saw in IWB list that vapowave wiki gone indie [07:27:01] [2/2] [07:29:13] the list is about half of wiki.gg wikis now too [07:29:16] maybe more [09:49:24] No better than Fandom [09:50:35] dude got bombarded by requests to Terraria Wiki so much [09:50:59] from what I saw on github [15:03:53] Heyyy moving over here from general: [15:03:54] [1/6] q: For those of you who run wikis about a piece of media (e.g. a tv series), how do you prefer to do appearances? I've seen wikis with like, separate pages for characters who appear in a lot of the media and I think that works very well, but I think those usually have a special prefix so idk if that's something that can be done using a special page or not. [15:03:54] [2/6] And, I've also seen appearances done with tables, for example, on the character page not a separate 'appearances' page, though I still think the 'appearances' page tends to look cleaner. [15:03:54] [3/6] So yeah, [15:03:55] [4/6] 1) Is there a special pre-set up way of doing 'appearances' pages [15:03:55] [5/6] and [15:03:55] [6/6] 2) How do you guys prefer to list your apperances? [15:22:15] In all the time I've been doing it and seen it, I've generally done an appearance section. Either with columns for each season, and then bullets, or a table template which shows appeared, absent, mentioned. etc [15:22:38] Okay, cool, thank you! [17:22:38] I doubt nimostar even uses Miraheze at this point since random logouts been a thing for a year probably lol [17:23:11] and some other silly comment [18:01:02] I’m the same size/height since elementary school [19:19:15] <.labster> You must have been held back a lot of times. [19:21:21] Chat is this real https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Sannse/Announcing_Fandom%27s_First_Transparency_Report [19:21:54] the year 2024 [19:23:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207406684578910259/2024-02-14_22_22_59.png?ex=65df881a&is=65cd131a&hm=6b110f10e5855b56280f6bec39e8aebf5e906092f247bf795ddd7104f8dd0cf4& [19:23:14] Global blocks https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/8fb6591f-0fb3-4a11-a057-d5f8f11f61eb/scale-to-width-down/1200 [19:23:58] The increase in admins+ also seems a bit sus to me [19:27:07] "we present two distinct programs: Admin+ and Fandom Compass." [19:27:19] huh, kinda curious [19:27:34] you can now be a Fandom-certified wiki sysop! [19:27:50] [1/2] what happened in October lmao [19:27:50] [2/2] https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/6b9be97a-0ac5-4a47-a601-7038fe116214/scale-to-width-down/1200 [19:28:20] mossbag video came out on 31 oct, I'd expect something in november graph? [19:28:51] they say it was probably because they had a spam attack in october [19:30:45] as if the one asking doesn't know the answer to that [19:31:17] they're the competition, hosting links to them would be kinda dumb [19:31:42] yeah, the bisuness guy replied something [19:31:49] seo blah blah blah [19:31:58] gib link [19:35:03] [19:36:05] [1/2] it's a silly program that rewards admin for watching their admin tutorials [19:36:05] [2/2] then their wiki becomes an A+ wiki, and get posted on Fandom twitter lol [19:39:39] 😮 [19:43:29] I find it hard to belive that these statistics are accurate. You're telling me in over 350k wikis, there were only approx 100 JS submissions some months? [19:43:57] Agreed we [19:44:00] Also bundling stuff into an "everything else" category is VERY misleading for the Phalanx stats [19:44:02] maybe the process is just that cumbersome? [19:46:17] Also I'm pretty sure MediaWiki adds no follow to links by default so I don't get the point in blocking wikigg links lol [19:46:19] You give them too much credit imho [19:46:44] _still waiting for the UCP repo they promised 5 years ago_ [19:47:19] about that, I was reading their Special:Version and it all links to a non-existant or private GitHub lol [19:47:25] Its private yeah [19:47:44] The repo was supposed to go public after the gamepedia stuff finished but it never materialised [19:47:59] But you can view all their extension.json files in the browser [19:48:07] why would they give away their tech to everyone for free after all? [19:48:31] ...just seems a bit wishy washy when MediaWiki is licensed freely. [19:49:05] if only MediaWiki was licensed AGPL from the start smh [19:49:15] though then probably fandom wouldn't exist [19:49:21] I also personally don't think its fair for all the Gamepedia people [19:49:42] A lot of them helped out on Gamepedia's gitlab and suddenly got that taken away on UCP. [19:49:56] now that's scummy [19:50:27] But you could be like wiki.gg and use Gamepedias extensions etc and remove any mention to them as being the author which is even worse I'd argue. [19:51:51] not to mention breaking the GPL very likely 😉 IANAL though [19:52:12] yup it is [19:52:37] If only indeed [19:52:47] I guess you could argue that the company is no longer around to do anything about it, but still really weird behaviour [21:24:22] I am thinking of making a history of Miraheze video. [21:26:19] That would be very cool [21:27:02] that would require a lot of careful research :ThinkerMH: [21:30:14] The history of Miraheze video would have origins, Orain, Founding, WikiTide and modern day. [22:00:55] It'd be very long [22:02:05] And entertaining [22:05:22] Documenting over a decade of history is hard work [22:06:53] [1/2] Read through it, it's definitely something [22:06:53] [2/2] Especially the blog announcement [22:07:46] [1/2] You have to go back to 2009 Wikia, Club Penguin Wiki Network forking off, TropicalWikis rising, Orain coming as the planned successor, the controversies at Orain (like that one extremist wiki), Orain falling apart and Miraheze taking its place, early leadership scuffles, the multiple global bans, SRE-community division rising, the Doug era, db141, the Apex saga and the fall of Doug [22:07:46] [2/2] , the Naleksuh incidents, the June 2023 incidents, the fork, the reconciliation, so much [22:08:38] [1/2] Interesting, I'd definitely watch it out of curiosity alone [22:08:39] [2/2] Pretty new to Miraheze after all [22:10:06] What about Miraheze Abridged? (Think Sword Art Online Abridged) [22:10:24] I'd watch it, as long as it's directed by Michael Bay. [22:10:27] Also who’s Doug [22:10:41] no way [22:10:46] you're kidding, right? [22:11:08] Agent I joined the Miraheze community in like August [22:11:12] a:Pensive_motion: [22:11:13] DB141 needs the explosions that only Michael Bay can provide. [22:11:15] Later really [22:11:29] Doug has left a long lasting impact on Miraheze [22:11:33] second only to John and SPF [22:11:39] Idk man when it comes to systems exploding Kevin Fang pretty good [22:11:40] his legacy is rather controversial [22:11:47] depending on how you viewed him [22:12:27] Short version: they were a volunteer and steward that had large impacts on policy, there was a lot of kerfuffle around the ban of an LTA that was partly responsible for their resignation, they still show up from time to time. [22:13:18] quite an impact on policy [22:13:29] His conventions are long lasting [22:13:41] (LTA?) [22:14:42] I'm already forgotten in the newer circles, doug isn't namedropped enough for him to necessarily be embedded in brand new culture [22:15:35] I at least know a bit of the raidarr lore [22:15:36] Lmao [22:16:01] a footnote in the miraheze histories [22:16:37] The history video would be simplified. [22:17:09] And the video is a maybe. [22:17:18] Didn’t Isai call you “he who almost killed Miraheze”? [22:18:08] Well, his impacts are very long lasting [22:18:21] We found out during a recent Board meeting that a de facto T&S policy actually didn't exist [22:18:27] Doug had just implemented the standard [22:18:31] that is true [22:18:51] him being T&S banned was the straw that broke the camels back in a long string of dissatisfactions with the service [22:19:43] Harej is still reviewing the case iirc? [22:19:54] Interesting, man I gotta learn the Miraheze lore [22:20:34] https://tenor.com/view/purple-guy-lore-gif-24356620 [22:20:38] Same [22:20:57] Which policy? (Assuming it’s not private) [22:23:32] Stewards can't help in enforcing the ToU [22:23:45] apparently they can do some low level things without needing to defer to T&S [22:23:51] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/Miraheze:Acronyms_and_Abbreviations [22:24:06] You might find this helpful, there's a LOT of acronyms [22:26:55] :sippy: [22:27:29] Been thinking what to call my prototype Auth bot if I somehow get around to it in my free time [22:27:44] Really making more it more as a exercise but whatever [22:28:03] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207453226845216890/image0.jpg?ex=65dfb372&is=65cd3e72&hm=e57572b0d39f86eb34077f5d110ecbbdae0b835cd550f866f5796eeba80a3c07& [22:28:36] I meant that as MiraHeze Auth Bot but now I wanna theme it off FMAB(Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood [22:28:42] Goofy [22:52:35] <.labster> I still like the first anime’s ending better than the FMAB ending [22:53:24] Spoilers ||Didn't the first one end in Germany somehow? Or am I getting them mixed around? Cause that shit was.. weird to me, or just felt really out of place at least.|| [22:54:14] <.labster, replying to jeb_cc> In the movie, yes, after the final transmutation of S2 they ended up elsewhere [22:55:51] <.labster> Hey guys speaking of the lore, remember that time John got sick and I had to take over ownership of Miraheze? That was good times. [22:57:38] Movie? [22:58:36] Sounds fun [22:58:48] <.labster> In the beginning, the spirit of the Ward moved over the wikis, saying, “Let there be edits!” [23:50:12] Question, what are some of the biggest, best and modt famous wikis we host? I had an idea for a logo to use for whatever(basically its the miraheze hezes but instead of a flat color each hex has an iamge inside of a large wiki. As an example, the background on PTW [23:50:38] probably over the colors and shapes we use as a server banner [23:52:00] i love making random miraheze themed logos i know will never be used [23:57:45] Rain World, All the Tropes, Polandball-related wikis, I think some of the reception wikis still get some traffic [23:58:52] reception wikis are maybe top 500 in traffic [23:59:01] they really tumbled down violently [23:59:03] Rainworld I thought of, ATT and PL are good ones [23:59:14] Rosetta Code was one of our biggest [23:59:18] and so was LGBTA [23:59:29] Polcompball is also a big one [23:59:45] I’ll probably included Pizza Tower cause it has a fun background and my own because screw it im making the logo(maybe, if i get bored over the long weekend)