[00:00:06] (this definitely isnt related to hypothetical auth bot trust) [00:00:09] Pizza Tower isn't top 100 iirc [00:00:34] Mine’s probably bottom 100 😄 [00:00:41] Yeah, after the QP closure a lot of users moved to different wikis or left Miraheze altogether [00:00:50] This is for fun dont need to be accurate [00:00:55] QP? [00:01:18] Quantum Particles! [00:01:21] Abbreviation for Qualitipedia, which was shut down by community vote [00:01:31] H u h. [00:01:41] By the Miraheze community Or it’s own? [00:02:06] Its own with a few members from the Miraheze community joining in [00:02:07] QP self-destructed [00:02:13] very great for Stewards backlog [00:02:15] If it’s the former I can see why others would jump shup [00:02:27] Sarcastic great or actually great [00:02:32] actually great [00:02:38] problem child? [00:02:38] QP was a haven for abuse [00:02:40] yep [00:02:47] womp womp [00:03:34] Also anyone know is OAuth consumer can be deleted by author? Seems to be no but I have a history for um [00:03:47] oversight of embarrassing obvious functions [00:03:53] Yeah lets go with that [00:04:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207477563086086205/image.png?ex=65dfca1c&is=65cd551c&hm=064b46d7d28240d8519d26525c680c46150eb596b9559d8cb23cbf0c2ea4bbd1& [00:04:47] top 25 [00:04:59] a few more wikis will dethrone the top 5 once WT merges back [00:05:05] as we wiped out a great portion [00:05:49] Star Dust, MCJP [00:05:58] No Netpedia wikis, RIP [00:06:05] Critical Role [00:06:34] knowing me I’ll probably pick the ones I recognize. Actually probably the ones that have the best pictures associated [00:06:38] assuming i find time [00:08:05] anyways muchas gracias agent [00:08:25] day nahduh [00:09:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1168174901052592259/1207478622315610165/pat.gif?ex=65dfcb19&is=65cd5619&hm=f67d637aa74a302731858b28f7756db38168e369f25ce8a90b90de536751e733& [00:09:32] I forgot I made a whole discord bot for pat gifs [00:09:35] may as well use it! [00:12:08] Ooh, That's wonderful stuff! I often have to look up what you guys are talking about 😄 [00:15:25] What's this based off? :o i.e. page count, disk size, etc. [00:23:57] Glad you find it helpful! It can be quite dizzying for a newcomer [00:24:18] Indeed it is. [00:42:25] [1/2] (I don't know if hezes was a typo for hexes but I like the mental image it implies) [00:42:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207487041760137259/image.png?ex=65dfd2f0&is=65cd5df0&hm=b5a43f749dc9cab368afc49b61c188e18cf796a0ac384af748c23adcaa31b25d& [00:43:48] it was and hell yea [00:51:40] Who made the MH logo anyways? [00:56:00] A bee 🐝 [00:56:30] barry?!?!?!? [01:06:13] Doug — such an interesting character [01:06:24] sorry just saw the earlier posts [02:51:25] Its actually on Wikimedia commons [02:52:01] https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:QuimGil made it [03:14:11] <.labster> Wow I am really bad at reading Catalan ^ [03:18:11] just learn Spanish [03:18:13] or French [03:18:15] same thing [03:20:21] <.labster> I did learn Spanish. No lo entiendo [03:32:03] Problema de habilidad [03:42:43] Это круто, но ты знаешь русский? [03:43:13] <.labster> Sorry I don’t speak Soviet [03:43:21] I do lol [03:43:57] French, Russian, German, Spanish, some Croatian, and sometimes English [03:44:36] <.labster> すごい! [03:45:12] oh [03:45:13] lol [03:46:49] hehhhh [03:46:53] how on Earth-- [03:47:39] I got bored, was in choir from elementary to high school so had to learn at least 1 foreign language song a semester [03:48:14] I used to know some Korean but I have forgotten it [03:48:25] Damn, sometimes I barely know my own native language. XD I swear some people are just.. naturally better at learning a language. [03:48:54] [1/2] learning English as a Japanese speaker was very difficult 😦 [03:48:54] [2/2] They have little in common lol [03:49:07] So the caveat with me is that I can’t verbally pronounce those languages, I only learned how to write them [03:49:24] I'm learning Russian and I constantly ask why the fuck the tables and chairs have genders. lol [03:49:53] <.labster, replying to kiju1108> I know. I think I only know maybe 20 kanji [03:49:54] Non-english languages tend to genderify their words [03:50:31] German, if you just yell something loudly chances are its a german word [03:51:41] The hardest one for me to learn was Russian, Cyrillic is difficult [03:52:03] <.labster> https://tenor.com/view/work-cry-injured-too-lazy-to-go-to-work-gif-15975022 [03:53:05] I would say I can understand written Russian a decent amount some things I need help with. With all the languages slang and similar I’m not too good with [03:53:40] <.labster> I can mainly read Greek alphabet because of math classes [03:53:58] I tried to learn Greek but it confused me [03:54:22] Someone suggested i learn latin.. yeah no thanks [03:57:04] <.labster> I know enough Japanese that I was able to tell my sansei coworker that no, his tattoo was definitely not his name (and just seemed to be random katakana) [03:58:11] My coworker had a tattoo done in Russian because her great grandparents were Russian… lets just say it translated to asshole [03:58:41] It was supposed to be her name [04:00:48] Hey, same from the other direction. 😅 [04:01:19] [1/2] we had at least 3 people join PTW server and ask how we do things to look like this lol [04:01:20] [2/2] ngl nice to see looking at us as an example [04:01:59] Middle school, high school and University Japanese instruction here, I still retain enough to read but absolutely can't speak or write fluently with confidence [04:02:41] Similar to me I wouldnt even attempt to speak it but read/write is fine [04:03:00] I can speak some of the french, german and spanish, but not nearly as much as I can write [04:04:02] we aren't big but very got pretty famous now thanks to mossbag, got massive google clicks spike when his vid came out [04:04:24] <.labster, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Nominee for featured wiki on the main page of Meta, then? [04:04:35] Oh god the chaos if we did that [04:05:01] Indeed, the Japanese language is insane 😂 [04:07:12] <.labster, replying to notaracham> I only the most important words of Japanese, like 異世界、怪獣、美少年 [04:08:14] I do want to learn Mandarin but also.. it scares me so much. XD [04:47:58] meanwhile, my tumblr post from August is still getting notes, despite being pretty outdated at this point [05:13:31] note part 2? [05:20:56] people don't notice correction reblogs, they barely even check replies [05:21:48] and I opted myself out of search [05:22:58] I considered at some point to make a whole separate blog about wiki things, because I've made like 4? posts between August and December which have spread around well [05:23:35] but I'm getting overwhelmed rn, too much stuff going on at once [05:24:18] if you guys consider making official Miraheze tumblr tho 😉 [05:35:35] seriously though, I think it would be beneficial [05:36:34] as we all know, tumblr is very "fandom heavy" place, and a fair amount of people have learned or already knew that Fandom the wiki hosting is bad, I wasn't the first w/ anti Fandom propaganda lmao [05:36:49] someone even hyped up last fundraiser [05:37:18] people would be able to ask questions and advices, they like seeing ask posts [05:37:37] like I shortly after got an ask about exact export/import dumps [05:40:16] would need help getting reblogs from bigger accounts, not sure how popular wiki-related tags are + people get irritated if you try putting technically unrelated posts in fandom tags [05:43:06] [1/2] tbh I have no idea which big tumblr made a reblog which snowballed, in fact it must be the most popular post I ever made since registering in 2011 (I can't tell how many notes reposts of one Japanese artists are having now, I got tired at some point and deleted then to stop getting notes lol) [05:43:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207562713245417532/IMG_20240215_084142.jpg?ex=65e0196a&is=65cda46a&hm=b6a9e36c13b9ac233a5d39653c378193d1cba75a5d323716fdd8e2df73f7cc19& [05:43:59] tumblr has a labs feature you can enable & one of them is a sort of reblog bubble graph thing [05:44:12] it's less about tags and more about reblog chains [05:44:55] actually idt you need to enable it its just on posts now [05:45:36] once in a while I get notes of my old Borderlands assets posts, which most likely were found in the tags of some big blog, and no way you'll just stumble on 5+ y/o post in global search [05:46:10] tumblr is so magical like that [05:46:10] not to mention, again, I opted myself out of search because of concerns [05:46:36] [1/2] oh right, I forgot about [05:46:36] [2/2] it just suddenly appeared and disappeared fore [05:47:28] a different way of how tumblr is magical (website problems) [05:49:09] right [05:49:24] ever since Yahoo bought it went downhill [05:49:50] new owners are trying though [05:50:21] but UI change is a big con [05:50:24] they should stop trying to innovate and just let it live normally [05:50:30] yeah [05:50:36] fix what's is broken [05:50:55] go back actually i dont want the side nav like twitter and i dont want photo posts to be just text posts with photos [05:51:11] I was absolutely baffled to find out that apparently they forced global tag system on blogs [05:51:37] god I hate how images are rendered rn w/ new fotmat [05:51:58] it also looks BAD when you are using unusual or custom theme [05:52:02] <.labster> Tumblr has been at war with its own users for years, nothing new here. [05:52:06] I customise my shit man [05:53:16] i wanted to use that classic redux edit theme but had to go in and customize quite a bit, especially post/photo widths so our images (sized to be pixel perfect on dashboard) would display nicely too on the blog theme [05:54:01] I'm not even sure how many users actually surf in desktop mode nowadays [05:54:17] a lot of new users aren't even aware of theming [05:54:38] I don't their mobile app, I surf exclusively in browsers lol [05:54:43] crazy how much "newer" social media has rotted peoples ability to Just Use The Internet [05:55:26] yeah, my main is tweaked redux too lol [05:55:28] <.labster, replying to dvdexe> all according to plan [05:56:07] kingies redux the goat [05:59:13] i guess its not just social media but mobile devices in general that have ruined attention spans, basic computer using ability, etc [06:00:23] people expect younger generation (teens-20s) to just know how to do anything on a computer but those same kids are being given ipads and chromebooks and not taught how to actually use them outside of schoolwork & internet browsing [06:00:28] I've been saying that for years now lol [06:00:36] i say that like im not 24 [06:01:17] ladies twice older than me at my work are more computer literate than kids in my brother's (twice younger than me) class were [06:01:57] [1/2] mid 20s is a really weird age bracket to be in when it comes to this kind of stuff [06:01:57] [2/2] i remember growing up with dial-up, to flip phones & qwerty keyboards, and now having like 3 computing devices on me at all times [06:03:00] in high school i scoffed at a class they tried putting me in where on the first day, they were telling us how to open windows and create folders but if only i knew what the future would be like. because younger ppl are expected to know this stuff they straight up dont teach those classes anymore [06:04:14] I had such lessons in like, second grade, 2002 or 2003, and back then computers were quite a luxury in there, in fact I probably never seen a PC irl before [06:05:30] <.labster> I built my high school's first website, as a sophomore, in 1997, based on the one guy before me who did it in 1996 [06:05:55] they started teaching us HTML probably around 8 grade [06:06:07] <.labster> But I remember what it was like to have a question and just, you know, not have Google to search. You'd just be left wondering who was in that movie [06:06:14] i remember having computer labs in at least 6th grade(2010), maybe 5th my memory is really bad. but my mom loves to tell me how i would turn on the family pc and start up my games when i was 3 haha [06:06:46] one high school class i took was something like web design, but it was just? teaching office suite stuff? so after finishing assignments i would just go to w3schools and learn html myself [06:07:15] [1/2] me before 2010, when I actually got Internet in household [06:07:15] [2/2] I had to visit my friends w/ Internet when I was making my final project in art school [06:09:32] we hadnt had wifi in my house up until mid 2021 i want to say. before that it was phone line dial-up, then usb hotspots, and then just smartphone (&their hotspots) [06:10:25] printing colorful fashion and art reference photos for conceptual part of the project costed me a fortune back then lmao [06:10:49] i still cant fathom printing anything in colour at home [06:11:05] oh, I had to go to photo kiosk [06:11:09] printing kiosk [06:11:13] you get it [06:11:32] ye olde printinge kioske [06:12:15] I got printer/scanner in mid 2010s and don't even print w/ it anymore because changing and buying new ink cartridges was frustrating, shit was drying out fast [06:12:32] they're enormously expensive now here [06:15:59] oh, and before my friends started getting Internet, we went together to Internet Cafes couple of times lol [06:16:14] had to pay to record saved stuff on CD-R/RW [06:17:37] did you pay because they supplied the blanks???or because you download stuff using their bandwidth [06:18:49] no, exactly the recording [06:18:56] CDs were mine [06:19:10] harsh [06:19:13] I don't remember if saving was outlined [06:19:25] I def remember recording in price list lol [06:19:39] I had to go to the lady at reception [06:19:54] PCs themselves didn't have drives [06:20:03] ahhh [06:20:28] i dont think i ever went to one but i do have memories of going to the town library with clunky vista laptop to download mods & cc for the sims 3 [06:21:05] I got bootleg DVDs w/ Sims 2 mods from friends lol [06:21:24] one had an NSFW one ... [06:21:30] noooo [06:22:09] and my dumb kid ass didn't know how to rollback so had to manually delete all the junk [06:22:52] also cheat codes lists were printed and passed around lol [06:23:31] tch i got all my cheat codes from my brothers nintendo powers [06:25:24] I recently rewatched the Curse of the Grey Elephant - as I'm from small province town I didn't have the luxury or dedication to be full on Dendy/Sega gamer in 90s Russia, but the part about cheat codes and manuals is hilarious [06:27:34] the mythical dendy [06:28:01] I had Dendy Junior [06:28:28] my dad promised to buy Sega Mega Drive for good grades but it never happened lol [06:29:14] also I participated in art contest which has Mega Drive as first place prize ... I didn't won, amd I got sooo upset lo [06:31:39] ohhh in 2017 senior year high school i had some other computer class, something with indesign and layout design, and the teacher had us all participate in a logo design contest for some regional school tech conference thing. i ended up winning (it was NOT that good of a design and the colour palette requirements sucked) and they gave me a ps4 [06:31:59] 🥹 [06:33:38] [1/2] however, [06:33:38] [2/2] i decided to trade it in for a switch from my mom because my reasoning was that ps4 didnt have any games i wanted + no home wifi. so i got the switch & botw in june a few months later. that was basically the only game i played for all that summer [06:34:13] it was funny cuz i was going to start college in the fall WHERE I WOULD HAVE WIFI LOL? but still not many games on ps4 appealed to me so i guess i still made the right decision [06:34:56] once a nintenbro always a nintenbro [12:01:36] for kicks I sometimes ask questions to acquaintances seeing what sorts of browsers or operating systems they know or the like [12:01:40] the answers can be enlightening [12:01:57] sometimes I have to give them credit for simply being able to say 'chrome' vs 'a web what' [12:07:11] mon dieu [14:04:05] it's sad to know abt this tbh [14:05:11] Like after all, the alpha gen is just getting dominated every seconds with easy access to those, too soon... [16:18:45] TIL [[Category:New Admin Guide]] kinda exists [16:18:45] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:New_Admin_Guide [16:18:46] [16:22:52] nice, na made progress on that [16:23:02] one of those things I was mulling about for a long while and na actually started doing [16:23:25] Aye [16:36:39] Just noticed the meeting minutes for the Feb 11th meeting of the board isn’t published yet :sad: [17:17:43] Theyr'e still pending review and approval, they're not immediately published [17:18:17] They're not that exciting, I promise. 😄 [17:20:00] You gravely miss understand my idea of exciting a:WholeSquadLaughing: [17:20:23] I read googles financial reports one time cause I was bored [17:20:43] Who knew financial reports had so much PR non snese [17:21:13] I prefer to call it corporate b*st [17:21:13] Yeah, my brain just Miscalculated how much 72 hours is :p [17:21:31] [1/3] Heh, just to set future expectations: [17:21:31] [2/3] * I have 72 hours from meeting conclusion to distribute minutes for review [17:21:31] [3/3]  The board has 72 hours after that* to review and approve, if they don't approve, then it's considered automatic assent after the review period has passed. [17:21:33] How do I tell discord not to format * [17:21:46] Backslash [17:21:50] So it could in theory be up to 144 hours if I'm having a really slow time. [17:23:00] Yeah, definitely going to revisit it once things are calmed down, the CSS convo in general reminded me that it's not intuitive and there's some easy wins for Fandom emigrees based on their theme styler [17:23:16] Yeah [17:23:45] Even having some premade CSS that you can copy and paste and just change color variables would be a W [17:25:17] We need to hec into fandom and steal their extensions [17:25:22] :devilish: [17:25:53] some are already kinda lol [17:26:03] (cosmos and pi) [17:26:26] Ah yes, PI Box, one of the best things to come out of fandom [17:26:35] I vaguely remember someone talking about creating a theme designer [17:26:40] Not that it’s the only thing [17:27:34] Hm. Now I’m thinking. What would be worse, taking MH out of the equation, fandom being the only free wiki host or there being none at all [17:28:36] what [17:28:48] Just something my goofy silly brain thought of [17:29:44] Don’t worry I don’t understand what I think myself sometimes. Sorry for the dumb question [17:30:58] I suppose mh being out is still room for other options to step in, as I think there will always be a market though how effective it is would be an open question [17:31:36] but right now for example I know of 2 newer farms vaguely related to the niche, 2 deadish ones, then odd spots like wiki.gg, so there will always be something [17:32:28] What’s the two newer ones? [18:00:21] I can’t even find Filmpedia on google dang [18:00:53] last time I heard of him is someone showing him shit talking us in fandom server from an alt account [18:13:59] I found a way to mass pwn fortune 500 executives at a relatively low cost using an attack vector they do not expect and inherintly trust, I wonder what I should do with this information [18:23:51] [1/2] (It started with me getting a newspaper I did not subscribe to in the post, some alcohol, actually reading the paper, more alcohol and one of those) [18:23:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207754162184392714/PLP-MG9900i-MEDIUM-NO-TDR-RIGHT-FACING-WITH-LIGHTS-HR.jpg?ex=65e0cbb7&is=65ce56b7&hm=96c9e363a5ad16e2ea066b1530d422d037839b60996b2b71a0ae661ff4854434& [18:27:57] @rhinosf1 2 by-elections today [18:28:13] Which 2 [18:29:51] one outside bristol and one in wellingbourgh [18:30:09] kingwood [18:30:16] *kingswood [18:54:42] it's in a strange spot at the moment with no major projects and a lot of soul searching to do [18:57:53] That’s deep [19:13:35] [1/2] Hmm [19:13:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207766676712595517/image0.jpg?ex=65e0d75e&is=65ce625e&hm=9b819af1492979b293e8d6196f15868c9f975b1671d157911f110904ccf75c37& [20:29:17] [1/2] c o o k i n g [20:29:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207785728956829756/a.png?ex=65e0e91d&is=65ce741d&hm=d3c609d732d4721a5af3abd0c793f4b8e07eef6c8e2a5586983e43084b6c8985& [20:30:42] He cook [20:31:08] 3.30AM already, a mimir [20:31:31] a:b_abt2sleep: [21:09:30] @owenrb: why are FOS so useless? [23:35:10] https://wikkii.net/ this is such a strange website [23:35:31] i love the random sentences added alongside normal ones [23:40:48] Just from the URL alone I'm worried I'm going to get a virus visiting there... 😦 [23:41:19] The header of the embed being admin also sets off a few flags in my head [23:41:40] :eyessus: [23:41:43] [1/2] default wordpress homepage [23:41:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207834152947163176/image.png?ex=65e11636&is=65cea136&hm=a05df96fe56ac01c3d31eb70a8ed209171f855a85c6d2830d24fd5771974230e& [23:42:03] Also the other URL they reference is a fake ecommerce site. [23:42:08] Alarm bells on alarm bells [23:42:24] Cesspool Company [23:42:49] this shit look like fucking goolge forms [23:49:39] I don't need my epoxy flooring doing, can I still make a wiki? 😮 [23:50:43] ”cold storage tanks installations” [23:51:03] Dentist Wappinger Falls [23:53:40] This seriously looks like some AI-generated site-parking network, I don't know what it's for but it's definitely worth staying away from for my 2c. [23:54:11] Never had anything good come from poking around those things. [23:54:18] It reminds me a decent amount of those scam we will write your Wikipedia article sites [23:54:42] that website appears to be from a 2012 archive of the homepage for the same domain [23:54:49] but formatted way worse [23:54:55] I came across one by accident then found a ton of similar ones and then found the group behind them is site banned from enwiki [23:55:02] Best case scenario, it's someone's student project website to show "I can make a website" [23:55:47] [1/2] even this link goes to a web archive of the original forum page from 2013 [23:55:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207837695372566559/image.png?ex=65e11983&is=65cea483&hm=0af9a4bb2eed1953678ecd9250b9f7f12f52e26e6373e568224966f0cac39d16& [23:55:53] Maybe someone just wanted to fuck around for shits a giggles [23:56:11] huh. A coherent sentence [23:57:02] Tried a whois lookup for the domain name but it was bought via proxy [23:57:03] eh [23:57:05] worth a try [23:57:33] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207838137775030392/image.png?ex=65e119ec&is=65cea4ec&hm=ffb57b6fa32cc4a7772504198a05753dd4eca8e1869ffe7d711ab3b2b3c9cd34& [23:57:35] [1/2] original [23:57:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1207838148730687528/image.png?ex=65e119ef&is=65cea4ef&hm=15cd8e79b43fec3301ee688033ef730eb40c07661b8312e1160ddce3acfeb26f& [23:58:27] Okay someone tell me it’s not just me whos brain is screaming google forms