[00:36:44] RfAs: Request for Applause [00:42:15] lol [00:43:33] I was thinking Request for Attention lmao [00:44:55] would be pretty funny. Who knows maybe someone will make it under their user page [01:41:08] could also just post here in off topic and use a thread fornsupport [08:44:25] That would be a kind of decent idea to give volunteer awards. I'm not sure I'd do initial nom on wiki. [08:44:44] Although we could probably only give pride [08:45:51] Counter-intuitively, this sort of thing could be more successful in building on-meta presence from folks in a positive way [08:49:03] Put up a Community page? [08:50:14] Ah, there is one 😄 [08:59:59] It probably would help engagement [09:18:52] Perhaps making people aware of it via a banner would help. I didn't even know there was a community portal 😄 [09:19:31] meta has some way to go to be a healthy community nexus given it's spent most of its life attempting to be purely functional [09:38:55] maybe a footer link? [09:39:24] but it needs a better name or target than "community portal" [09:52:53] calling everything a portal invites a level of stuffy [09:54:07] Create a Social chat [13:33:35] I like that [13:40:15] Help me write it then [15:05:25] What’s your basic idea for this? [15:06:33] The basic idea is making volunteers feel engaged and acknowledged [15:07:07] Like enwiki barn stars? [15:14:09] No [15:14:16] Something that's more centralised [15:14:37] Probably initial nominations private and reviewed to stop trolling and any stupidity [15:14:52] But then giving people the chance either on or off wiki to vote [15:15:20] And if it passes a threshold then they get a fancy message of thanks [15:19:33] I like that, the only think I don’t like the that if the vote ultimately doesn’t pass, depending on the person it may make them feel their contributions aren’t appreciated [15:19:54] Also who would review? Stewards? [15:20:17] Yes I'm leaning on the voting being done behind close doors [15:20:42] Committee of Stewards, SRE and other trusted people [15:21:39] Secure poll? But in that case the person would still know it failed [15:22:11] I haven't read the full chat but are you discussing a sort of "volunteer award" that people would get? [15:22:17] Kinda? [15:22:23] I'm thinking like a google form [15:22:39] We could just award them when a person gets enough nominations [15:22:43] I guess that sounds interesting, though I think there should be a limit on how many nominations someone can get as it wouldn't be nice for the same person to get tons of awards [15:22:47] And not list the non-nominated people [15:22:48] Also a pro of public votes is that people can also leave nice comment of appreciation [15:23:00] though I'm not sure how nice that level of competition would be either [15:23:13] Ah [15:23:18] a lot of it would probably just relate to activity and how much people see you around [15:23:33] So like we have a form for nominating volunteers, if a volunteer gets enough nominations, we publish a summary of the positive comments [15:24:01] People would probably say it lacks transparency but I think an open page would just encourage shitty comments from trolls [15:24:47] I think the nominations would be given like quarterly or something [15:25:07] Like it's open all year round but maybe we just count comments every quarter and review [15:25:46] Absolutely [15:26:14] So its not like you can get an award all the time, it's like something in a digest [15:27:23] I think it's interesting but there'a a risk that some people might feel undervalued and some people might vote for some just because they're more visible or more "friendly" on Discord rather because of their work [15:28:21] I mean you'd have to be noticed by someone yes [15:29:37] I think it would be better for it to be just nominations, so you can just leave nice feedback on specific users. It would be up to the reviewers of the form if you're included but you could be included for just having 1 comment. [15:29:56] No threshold, it's just based on people who we think have done something amazing based on the comments [15:30:08] @reception123 [15:30:48] Yeah I think we could have some broad categories but not something like "best steward" or "best sre" that's very subjective [15:31:43] Oh ye [15:31:50] You aren't nominating the best steward [15:32:12] You are nominating someone to be acknowledged for doing something special [15:33:27] In that case that'd be good yeah [15:40:29] Yeah, people like Legroom and myself who main discord question probably get a lot more then say MacFan [15:46:52] @pixldev @reception123 I sent example form privately [15:46:56] So you can see format [15:47:04] Not linking here so people don't use it yet [16:05:36] We could have stewards-SRE-others maybe nominate people with priority who do a lot in the shadows [16:15:44] If we think it's a good idea, we can launch it [16:15:52] Not sure how it becomes official [16:16:46] And ye, once launched, anyone can add to it [16:16:51] And please do [16:16:58] Maybe we suggest it on CN as a trial [17:09:10] @reception123 ? [17:14:42] Sure [17:14:52] Aight some notes [17:15:19] Possibly a checkbox for if they want their comment to be published/with name [17:17:21] Specify wiki user name so people don’t use discord [17:17:43] If possible diff or message links of examples of what your nominating for [17:18:31] How would other be decided? Chosen by stewards, board, RfP style? [17:29:23] I'd say no to posting who said it for now [17:29:43] Chosen by current SRE + Stewards [17:29:48] + board [17:31:04] Formal or informal selection [17:31:10] Informal for now [17:31:17] Ie vote or “hey what about them yeah sure@ [17:31:41] Anyone with @wikitide.org email should be able to fully modify the form and view responses and add people to it [17:31:54] I’m just gonna call the committee the Recognition Committee for now (RecCom!) [17:32:22] Recon is a fancy name [17:36:25] AppCom(Appreciation) is also a options [17:38:00] [1/2] Just got my biases "black cards" [17:38:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1208467390229258311/z.png?ex=65e363f6&is=65d0eef6&hm=3e8c7895dfb031d5d79fc08133a963378c2b7b708f1c3d811817a7b30e854caf& [17:46:42] Ye could be [17:47:01] What the [17:47:42] Uh, this is off topic so uh- [17:47:51] Anyways will RecCom externals(not SRE Stewards) be rotated or reconfirmed? [17:47:57] Nah ya good [17:48:07] Just not sure what it is [17:48:20] Just "limited" collection cards [17:50:30] It’s cute [17:57:31] [1/2] Thanks! [17:57:31] [2/2] It's inspired from social media posts, likely from Instagram [17:58:41] [1/2] And it just great that I got a article about this collection pack [17:58:41] [2/2] [18:04:12] Probably audited every year or so [18:11:46] Audited? So removed for poor preformance [18:12:11] Removed for lack of involvement in community stuff [18:32:56] But otherwise indefinite or until High RecCom boots [19:06:58] Ye [20:04:19] I want to archive my wiki as it is finished and no more information will be done to it. [20:04:22] How do I do that? [20:05:12] ask for dormancy policy exemption in [[Steward requests]] [20:05:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests [20:05:13]

[20:05:17] if this is what you mean [20:05:30] also you can disable edit, if needed [20:05:58] dormacy policy means no edits and the site stays frozen right? [20:07:05] dormancy policy deleted inactive wikis [20:07:31] exemption from it guarantees that it won't be deleted for lack of edits [20:07:45] AH [20:08:03] Thank you [20:08:13] you need to ask stewards to add your wiki to white list, roughly speaking [20:08:32] question, where is the request button though XD [20:09:43] [1/2] [20:09:43] [2/2] edit section, add your request as new subsection at the bottom, look at other requests as example [20:13:49] <.labster> #offtopic is really the wrong venue for this discussion because dormancy requests are on topic [20:14:48] where is on topic? [20:14:48] oh [20:14:53] happens sometimes, resolved tho [20:14:58] #general [20:15:11] I got tunnel visioned [20:15:13] my bad XD [20:15:23] <.labster> Kinda joking, kinda not, just funny to see [20:16:59] threatening [20:18:13] <.labster> Getting back to the topic at hand, with the name @theoneandonlylegroom , have you ever been kicked off a flight for making them look bad in comparison? [20:19:36] what [20:34:12] he means because _leg room_ isn't usually a luxury on flights 🤣 [20:34:56] lol [21:16:40] does anyone here have an explaination of how wiki leadership works typically? its hard to just look up "wiki leadership" or "wiki bureaucracy" because well. it just gives u wikipedia pages for those words lol [21:19:49] @pixldev @reception123 I posted a trial because why not. https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal#Thank_a_Miraheze_user [21:19:52] [1/3] * there's no "founders" or "owners" in wikis, in technical sense [21:19:53] [2/3] * the highest role is bureacrat - because he has ability to promote/demote other users, including to bureacrat (but on Miraheze only stewards can demote a bureau) [21:19:53] [3/3] * below of burea is sysop - system/interface admin, who only lacks that promote/demote power [21:20:30] there's also just administrator, but sysop is like, more popular and comvient [21:21:23] :mhm_mhm: [21:22:53] Can I thank a Miraheze volunteer? Or is this just community members? [21:23:08] Anyone [21:24:16] Every single response will be read by someone [21:31:16] Volunteers are just community members with titles [21:31:23] And fancy hats [21:51:00] @jeb_cc was the first person to submit a thanks [21:52:35] (And so far we've only had 1 thanks submitted from the 1 user) [22:02:52] I mean hasn’t been long [22:03:09] Oh ye [22:04:54] I don’t wanna spam the form, so I’ll wait and think [22:04:58] Lol [23:12:28] Well there is one more at least 😉 [23:30:13] How do we handle people putting like “SRE”, “Wiki Creators”, or even “Volunteers” [23:31:27] [1/3] Also [23:31:28] [2/3] > The internal record will be deleted after either 9 months or following 2 publications of feedback rounds, whichever is earlier. [23:31:28] [3/3] I see no reason not to record, either somewhere on cloud storage, staff wiki, or even locally