[00:04:04] MH has open positions for software engineers. I might actually apply for one when I get the time. [00:07:46] I prob would I knew PHP or MW stuff [00:08:12] WikiForge uses hub.wikiforge.net [00:08:19] conspiracy to monetize Miraheze? I think so [00:08:54] hub wouldn't be horrible [00:09:06] I'd probably use it for variety [00:09:10] central [00:09:39] Ditto... I'm learning SQL at work though so I'm hoping I can eventually translate that into the ability to help out here but.. MediaWiki also uses all this other shit. XD [00:09:54] central can work, not sure it's optimal for miraheze as a whole [00:10:06] SQL isn't that hard imo [00:10:17] I wanted to encourage it for ballmedia to help distinguish from miraheze meta and ballmedia meta, too many metas on one farm is a wee messy [00:10:27] I think the backend has its own sort of ORM [00:10:38] you should've encouraged it when QP was still alive and kicking [00:10:49] would have been neat to have that idea sooner yeah [00:10:50] agent your smart how sql in mediawiki [00:11:04] might not be too late to do that with netpedia [00:11:27] the key is to type random things IN CAPITALS UNTIL SOMETHING WORKS [00:11:30] netpedia central isn't terrible [00:11:38] wise words [00:11:45] `DROP mhglobal;` is my fave on Miraheze [00:11:54] v-v [00:12:02] which tables is that [00:12:25] also raw sql cringe orms coool [00:12:31] `UPDATE user SET user_blocked = 1 WHERE user_name = 'Agent Isai';` [00:12:37] finally got aorund to using one for my current project [00:12:42] too long [00:12:48] `UPDATE user SET user_blocked = 1` [00:12:56] or [00:12:59] Noo don't do it 😭 /j [00:13:02] `UPDATE user SET user_locked = 1` [00:13:29] step away from the ledge [00:13:37] okay [00:13:40] you'll gum up all the gears [00:13:43] WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE [00:13:51] it would take weeks to clean you out of the db [00:14:02] `OK. 0 rows affected. (0.00 secs)` [00:14:04] never said in which direction [00:14:26] :LuxCreditFail: [00:16:32] by the way, on april first we need to make meta's skin modern [00:16:36] for you know, modernity [00:16:55] we should do funi april fools stuff yes yes [00:17:18] nooo!!!! vandalism!!!! :red_angry_face: [00:17:29] I'll be the first to suggest it: the return of Blueheze [00:17:33] [1/2] very goods [00:17:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1210017499006111744/image.png?ex=65e9079c&is=65d6929c&hm=649d4af3cd163a2118daca63fce57e54fb4f39545535b4f0ba13f993c4282521& [00:17:34] To me, Central means everything comming together, which sounds like chaos [00:17:42] hehe, I think I have an even better one [00:17:48] not an inappropriate description [00:17:50] make me a steward for april fools day :hehe: [00:17:52] we could do nostalgia skin [00:18:06] make me cu and announce ads, that'll ruffle everyone at once [00:18:17] better yet, make DMM or Doug steward for one day [00:18:18] lol [00:18:27] DMM is locked so he won't notice and Doug is gone soooo [00:18:41] invert all discord roles [00:18:42] abbw + apex have my vote [00:18:50] big funni [00:18:54] I have my vote for Steward [00:19:03] which one is abbw [00:19:08] abigblueworld [00:19:30] LTA? [00:19:35] [1/2] oh it's perfect [00:19:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1210018012317618176/image.png?ex=65e90817&is=65d69317&hm=eca9ec8cf88b09dec60ef1cbae3972bc13d271fd3a68b006d5c49b298365ed5f& [00:19:39] we must do it [00:19:43] too much css [00:19:49] Yes [00:19:52] we must make sacrifices [00:19:59] for progress [00:20:01] we got to many of those [00:20:36] [1/2] the buried help center link does not disappoint [00:20:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1210018269520597032/image.png?ex=65e90854&is=65d69354&hm=d294dfedd63bc4071e9e94409685fd4f76e338135b0ad7957983fb92f601f5f1& [00:22:04] Comoe on, Go for Anisa [00:22:21] not available on meta :/ [00:22:31] LOL [00:22:35] Why not [00:22:41] Just install it 😄 [00:23:15] make me bureau [00:23:24] [1/2] cologne blue does not disappoint [00:23:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1210018974285307946/image.png?ex=65e908fc&is=65d693fc&hm=5e6aaa56f7c9ddde52928f4fa54e1712a25a11f6aa150d1d50359ead12879632& [00:23:41] Truglass [00:23:44] ? [00:23:50] nope [00:24:02] > We are in the process of moving to dedicated servers located in the United States, and expect to be done by March 2024. [00:24:03] Side bar on the right [00:24:04] huh [00:24:10] in 2022 [00:24:11] sidebar is great [00:24:19] > Since January 2022, we have our own physical hardware where we host most of our servers. Our data centre which we call SCSVG is located in Stevenage, United Kingdom. Other than our own hardware, we also host cache proxy servers with OVH and ns1 (nameservers) with RamNode. [00:26:12] where was this at? [00:26:28] [[FAQ]] [00:26:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/FAQ [00:26:29] [00:27:12] that's terribly outdated [00:27:25] but that serves as a testament of how fast WikiTide got to working [00:31:03] HasSomeColours [00:31:11] I like this skin too [00:36:16] was looking in RandomWiki and found https://transcodex.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [00:36:27] no pages whatsoever [00:36:28] huh [00:36:47] not even main page, and the crat marks as active [00:36:48] odd [00:37:33] wait [00:37:45] a:MenheraBonk: [00:37:48] wikibase [00:37:50] im stoopid [00:46:39] There are no pages in the following namespace: (Main). [00:47:00] Ow - Database [00:47:20] Didn't realise Random defaulted to Main [00:47:22] well [00:47:32] didnt think it'd exclude props [00:48:28] Oh this is hilarious [00:48:31] Is it specifically main, or maybe it is any namespace marked as containing content pages (which I believe is only main by default)? [00:49:01] So I was looking on the GH repo for @WikiAuthBot [00:49:17] and I saw this as the descript for /auth [00:49:20] `Authenticate to your Wikimedia account. (THIS COMMAND IS IN TESTING PHASE, IT WILL NOT ACTUALLY WORK)` [00:50:41] [1/5] ```py [00:50:41] [2/5] consumer_token = ConsumerToken(contok, consec) [00:50:42] [3/5] sys.stdout = open(os.devnull, 'w') #TURN OFF CONSOLE PRINT [00:50:42] [4/5] handshaker = Handshaker(f"https://{t['lang'].lower()}.wikipedia.org/w/index.php", consumer_token) [00:50:42] [5/5] sys.stdout = sys.stdout #TURN ON CONSOLE PRINT``` [00:50:43] dies [00:52:32] amigo [00:52:33] por que [02:28:02] News Paper [02:29:20] [1/2] Just no [02:29:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1210050662012821564/801fa72b9da621c3.png?ex=65e9267f&is=65d6b17f&hm=e956c6978425ae7f3a331d3fef98632d9d25785ca5e9cf41fc1bbbacb1dbb713& [02:30:00] It certainly feels like that with some of the seedier wikis [02:30:24] Reception wiki wiki wiki soontm? [02:33:02] A wiki to document a wiki about documenting reception wikis? [02:33:51] Yes. [02:36:09] Why not core.miraheze.org ? [02:36:24] The core of operations [02:36:34] <.labster> bikeshed.miraheze.org [02:46:01] <.labster> How about the zocalo? [02:52:01] `basement.miraheze.org` [02:52:10] <.labster> I’d say zócalo.miraheze but I don’t know if we can handle such exotic characters [03:34:02] Viva la corrupción [03:37:33] admin.miraheze.org [03:37:59] Just like our gov-t https://admin.ch [03:38:28] However I still think https://gov.uk is a better site. [03:40:42] https://github.com/alphagov and here's their GitHub [03:44:50] the government actually publishing their code? [03:44:53] cringe [03:45:16] I prefer my governments to use cutting edge 1950s tech that no one except baby boomers knows how to use [03:59:34] Swiss Gov-t actually accepts contributions from random people [07:07:17] [1/2] 😳 [07:07:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1210120614090899527/IMG_20240222_100628.jpg?ex=65e967a5&is=65d6f2a5&hm=14225a2e7dbf445226a2da07d2faf08b393f449274120c1ddf5dcb410f8f36f2& [07:07:31] now that's A SPIKE [07:17:15] what is that? [07:21:52] my wiki about the game which died in 2018 and is now getting revived [07:23:50] So does the UK, most gov stuff should be open source [07:24:42] https://fxtwitter.com/GoGigantic/status/1759987543683031062 [07:24:55] https://fxtwitter.com/GoGigantic/status/1760417074277662861 [07:29:25] There's 1.6k government digital repos in https://github.com/orgs/alphagov/repositories?type=all [07:38:19] <.labster> someone hasn't updated to the new crown logo ^ [09:24:46] Legacy softlogoware [11:15:15] <.labster> I just had a great new idea for a wiki, countrydogswiki. Like, it's different breeds of dog, but instead of their normal fur they have fur like national flags, and they bark in national memes. [11:16:05] <.labster> Japandog: much original, very content, wow [11:20:53] I'd endorse it [11:31:41] I'd endorse it too, I just wouldn't visit it [11:34:32] I would contribute since I have enough compute to run DALLe on site [15:49:11] For [[Template:Unsigned]] do you use the diff of the adding edit or the time stamp [15:49:11] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Unsigned [15:49:12] [15:52:47] I think the timestamp, that way it resembles more an signed comment [15:53:12] yeah it's the timestamp [15:53:59] The first one I saw from recp was diff but k [15:55:35] there's fuzziness to these things, I just know timestamp is what was typically done [17:53:48] Hi, I am Eytirth under a new name [18:19:29] yo [18:35:09] Oy [18:36:33] Also, does anyone know anything about the next LTS mediawiki? [18:41:37] Logically it should be 1.43, but as 1.42 isn't publicly available yet I don't think 1.43 even exists in any way at this time [18:42:16] 1.43 is the next LTS [18:42:34] 1.42 is available [18:42:40] wikipedia is running it [18:42:59] its just tagged `-wmf` on github and not recommended for production...eh even though wikipedia is running ut [18:44:17] I consider 1.42 an open beta, which means that it hasn't been officially released yet even though it's technically "available" [18:55:35] I kinda wonder what things MediaWiki should add/change . What is your MediaWiki wishlist? [18:56:31] A core feature to rollback all edits of a specific user [19:02:09] Is it not a core thing? [19:02:40] I don't think so; there may be an extension that implements that [19:03:15] Also, I think my MediaWiki from nothing install time record is about 2 hours, and from copying an existing copy; 15 mins [19:03:43] I've gotten it installed quicker [19:03:59] I tend to mess up, and I was not keeping track of time [19:05:12] I had to puzzle over it, and then installed using the root database user [19:05:49] @tali64 What is your record? [19:06:19] I'd say around 5-10 minutes [19:07:03] I kinda was not tracking, just ran commands, opened up stuff and it worked [19:08:29] I am VERY happy as I got BYOND working on Wine on Ubuntu 22.04. Had to istalll Geko myself though so that was a pain [21:04:31] I can make a somewhat functional mediawiki install in like 2 minutes [21:04:39] but if I want a proper install that would be cheating [21:12:35] This wiki consists entirely of spam: https://funsilo.date/wiki/Main_Page [21:13:19] Its main page's history is just a bunch of spambots engaged in a never-ending war to see who can last the longest [21:13:48] Now that I think about it, doing something similar with human editors wouldn't be a bad idea for a wiki [21:16:12] If it keeps the spam bots occupied 👀 [21:16:20] But also should probably be dealt with [21:18:47] The only admin hasn't made a single edit on the wiki in its nearly 6-year history; dealing with it is basically impossible [21:19:12] Fair [21:25:06] it can be dealt with [21:25:09] [delete] [21:25:23] the whole thing in one go that is [21:27:33] that wiki has to be a social experiment, maybe a spam honeypot if I'm being generous [21:30:40] After some digging, I found that a Wikimedia Commons administrator has compiled a list of dedicated spam wikis: https://commons.m.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Achim55/Dedicated_spam_wikis; it's likely that Fun Silo is a dedicated spam wiki, but it's just as likely that it's a random person's wiki that they forgot about right after setting it up [21:36:30] It would b e intersting to see if there are any pattens to the spam or anything intersing [21:45:49] dedicated spam wikis... be nice to have that kind of money to permanently forget about [21:48:10] I found AI made lioly spam that was funny on the wiki [21:48:17] Irk, geez [21:53:23] I have to wonder HOW that nonsense evn does any use [21:53:56] I don't think the clicks are the point [21:54:11] the point is the link existing at all to game search engines [21:54:26] what they do is black-hat SEO [22:06:34] Hm, I wondered whyu it looked like nonsense [22:11:45] Spam wikis are surprisingly difficult to create an account on [22:42:33] How would I convice writers to make an account on a "workshop" wiki to write? [23:18:08] I suppose offer a killer convenient platform for it as compared to potentially easier options they could use