[00:00:16] What sort of addnaltioal control? [00:00:26] WikiTide Next [00:01:03] but yeah it occurs to me you can do custom license stuff on miraheze too, at least in theory [00:01:07] I am unsure if it would take off as there already is Miraheze, FANDOM, WikiGG, Shoutwiki and so on [00:01:59] closest comparison would be telepedia really, which itself lies in the distant shadow of miraheze; fandom is a controversial juggernaut, shoutwiki is defunct for new wikis, wikigg is very specific in its niche [00:02:21] there's not a whole lot of options on the table in the first place when you narrow down by not an evil corporation and actually functional [00:02:37] Forgot about telepedia, I do remember Amazing Wikis as well, that has a ton of rules though [00:02:41] in the end it's a matter of implementation [00:02:48] yes, amazing wikis is very heavy on rules [00:02:54] but even they have a handful of projects [00:03:11] forming direct connections with indie wikis/communities was a thought too [00:03:38] How heavy should Amazing Wikis be on rules [00:04:15] My wiki's rules are pretty much "follow the paid writer contract" and "don't piss me off." [00:05:03] amazing wikis explains its position as essentially covering all possible bases; few/very limited rules have their merits especially at small scale but inevitably circumstance and people pushing buttons forces them to become more specific, or conversely, more people involved and therefore more interpretations [00:05:28] it's very unusual for somewhere like aw to be as heavy as it is on rules but again, owner has his reasons for them and a majority at least aren't things that would be violated by accident [00:05:35] Hm yes. [00:05:51] Why is Amazing wikis so small [00:08:58] hasn't hit off I suppose [00:10:18] Also, managed to remove the wikistuff from my wiki to make it look more like a static website [00:18:40] Sorry, I'm back [00:18:45] Miss anything? [00:24:13] Meh [00:24:26] Soon to be moved away from MH way of doing things [00:24:33] Also what is going on with these icons [00:25:32] oh? technically speaking or scope/administrative [00:25:38] Technically [00:25:41] icons are kinda all over [00:25:48] oh I think I know what you mean by technically [00:26:29] it's an interesting alternative, hope it works well [00:26:54] My testing has yeilded really good results [00:27:13] Being able to add settings and extensions on wiki and not through php files is marvellous [00:27:55] (Please put the icons back as they were 😭) [00:28:11] could that perhaps be a base for a more independent wiki friendly management panel ie, non farm purposes? [00:28:57] Yeah for sure. I can't see why not. Would probably be pretty easy to spin off into its own extension just for managing configs [00:30:01] [1/2] https://taerel.com/taerelwiki/index.php/Taerel:Vaarat_Snowy_Beach [00:30:02] [2/2] What do you think of my CSS changes to hide most of the wiki stuff? (to make it look more like a static site) [00:31:00] what the [00:31:03] The Icons keep switching 😄 [00:31:12] I prefer the new icons [00:31:16] I know the Mh ones aren’t great but [00:31:18] this [00:31:20] Yeah that disk is so annoying and not at all relevant [00:31:23] this is garbage [00:31:40] @agentisai why is MWE a diiiisk 😭 [00:31:50] I rather have my books then [00:32:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1216906567283118201/image.png?ex=6602178e&is=65efa28e&hm=c1e9e9ae69c7dc774b6dd52eb52dcede1418d04813a2341be653e675201ecd4e& [00:32:30] i’m sorry to keep complaining about every icon but like cant we stay with 🔧 at least [00:33:01] I support books as a wiki creator icon [00:40:42] [1/2] https://taerel.com/taerelwiki/index.php/Taerel:Vaarat_Snowy_Beach [00:40:43] [2/2] What do you think of my CSS changes to hide most of the wiki stuff? (to make it look more like a static site) [00:49:32] fairly clean and the spartan sidebar is appropriate [00:54:42] Do you prefer the lack of wiki stuff? [00:57:42] To me it looks more like a normal website [00:57:55] It lacks the wiki feeling [00:58:03] From Brave, I fricking love firefox [01:00:03] I was trying to make it look more like a normal website. [01:00:36] Then you succeeded 😄 [01:00:47] firefox is a dream [01:01:03] I do like more spartan wiki designs so yes, that has some appeal to me [01:01:10] How much does it pass as a static site? [01:03:28] it doesn't if you're familiar with wikis [01:04:05] the off center content may look somewhat odd in an internet expecting the space to either be somewhat more symmetrical or more filled [01:05:39] mediawiki makes a somewhat rotten static site impersonator besides my own experiences trying similar using the tweeki skin, it's rather heavweight and has its own behaviors and mediawiki in some ways goes wasted when stripped of its front end mediawikiness despite its editing potential in the background assuming there is more to it when logged in [05:08:56] [1/2] Hahahahaha, a friend of mine re-earthed an early social profile which brought this perennial gem to light: [05:08:56] [2/2] "Time grant you the wisdom and luck to be crushingly embarrassed by your younger self at some point in the future" - Generic Internet Blessing/Curse, provenance and original coinage unknown [05:10:02] May we all live long enough to realize our own idiocy. [05:10:09] Seems like it looks good [05:10:20] Maybe remove the link to Special:Categories though [14:06:47] [1/2] heh, best reason for an import request [14:06:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217111552659030036/image.png?ex=6602d676&is=65f06176&hm=c52a3c34d2e78cc155903abe96b9e10c1a99925efa1f312b08481e0043ec8ddd& [14:09:56] https://tenor.com/view/thankfulforyou-morning-gif-19312024 [14:11:46] https://tenor.com/view/happy-snoopy-dance-gif-26520972 [14:13:27] whoa @fulmine good luck on ur game [14:14:34] hah, thanks. i basically just have a lot of ideas floating around and a wiki might be the best way to organize them that works with my brain [14:15:15] scope creep is a pain and having to write out features in a wiki format really makes you think about if they're actually needed. in theory at least [14:22:25] thats cool [15:03:00] [1/9] User-agent: * [15:03:00] [2/9] Allow: /taerelwiki/ [15:03:00] [3/9] Disallow /taerelworkshop/ [15:03:01] [4/9] Disallow: /index.php? [15:03:01] [5/9] Disallow: /index.php/Help [15:03:01] [6/9] Disallow: /index.php/MediaWiki [15:03:02] [7/9] Disallow: /index.php/Special: [15:03:02] [8/9] Disallow: /index.php/Template [15:03:02] [9/9] Would this robots.txt work to disallow indexing on taerelworkshop but not taerelwiki [15:39:39] You may find better help on the MediaWiki discord server. This isn't a support server for MediaWiki. [15:40:01] God the disk my eyes [15:40:11] Yeah its so annoying [15:40:40] The wrench was good [15:42:22] Still proud of the mediawiki one [16:55:02] what was it before? [16:55:11] 🔧 [16:55:22] hmmm [16:55:31] give me 20 minutes to get on desktop and i’ll make the switch [16:56:01] forgot what it had been previously so i switched it to a disk, but have no issues with the OG wrench [17:29:11] LOL, no further explanation needed [17:30:30] welcome friend [17:59:38] Today I learned I could recolour PD assets from WikiMedia commons to get icons that fit your wiki's theme [19:30:16] MacFan4000: I updated the Interface admin page more removing the last mentions of meta crat [19:30:26] lmk if you have any issue with it [19:30:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217193009352015962/L6JRkRp.png?ex=66032253&is=65f0ad53&hm=283aed63805b5a050018be8f58821678930ace66693fa1e8bdf1553cc4e2f8f7& [19:30:45] cc @bluemoon0332 and @raidarr for an example or Twinkle [19:31:18] <.labster, replying to brandon.wm> done :DoneMH: [19:32:08] praise be the chair! [19:32:34] I used the existing tvar thing for steward, I'm not familar with Translate so uh [19:32:37] <.labster> actually this is just CVT work, someone vandalized the icons [19:33:01] ikr [19:33:04] heh sorry i completely forgot [19:33:07] 😦 [19:33:12] Time for a vote of NoCon [19:33:50] also are the discord roles keeping their new icons? [19:34:07] or are we vandalising them as well [19:36:21] of course... [19:36:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217194495486066841/ssO2evW.png?ex=660323b6&is=65f0aeb6&hm=dce87a9ce988336c6458552a9fd0b9954f79e3c836bc39cfb28cd3665ca7ae3a& [19:36:36] because gs is based so obviously they play minecraft [19:36:41] duh [19:37:54] <.labster> Sounds good to me, I need another emoji [19:39:03] ? [19:39:33] <.labster> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217195295574851594/image.png?ex=66032474&is=65f0af74&hm=0d40addfa07b3f03fd2c8cf8df97265c181ef60ab447e1073b8b5d382e4bed38& [19:40:41] Miracraft [19:40:48] gasp [19:41:08] <.labster> Mineheze [19:41:27] In Soviet Russia, Wiki build YOU [19:42:31] <.labster, replying to pixldev> give me a list of icons you don't like [19:42:33] [1/2] otherwise, there does need to be more consistency [19:42:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217196052692598904/61774c3d02e8034c.png?ex=66032529&is=65f0b029&hm=eaa294ea10b207b82f3d59a2c78888f533c124bcedf60b273cca56c212eb0243& [19:43:30] Look at the picture and tell me what can be better... [19:44:07] turning off light mode [19:44:08] <.labster, replying to felenov> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217196442113015928/iu.png?ex=66032586&is=65f0b086&hm=f190cf69760d433c7fe6793c39f70cbd3be0f0baee25334393163ebbec6dec79& [19:44:21] other than that... [19:44:40] seek help anways yeah you have a point [19:44:45] <.labster> That's because @brandon.wm made all of the changes and he can't edit the admin role [19:44:51] No [19:44:59] that was like that sice [19:45:05] well [19:45:09] always [19:46:16] [1/2] better? [19:46:16] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217196985560469624/ff4ece86a7af715d.png?ex=66032607&is=65f0b107&hm=6affcf9566883729b5b2bfc0185ec981c4fede4aad80b2ca3e4abdbbc36f5711& [19:46:24] <.labster> Oh, never mind, I can't edit it either. @nibblypup would have to add the icon to the "Discord Administrator" group name [19:46:29] yes [19:46:33] or void [19:48:40] the hate is wild [19:48:44] :p [19:48:45] <.labster> Why do we have 4 users named "Void"? I really need to kick some of these people. [19:48:55] admin abuse!!!1!!1!!111 [19:52:52] You know what's really suspicious? I've never seen a user named "null" [19:53:29] @devnull_ best we got [19:53:52] <.labster> welcome to the chat, random developer person [19:54:18] they didnt get pinged [19:54:22] (probably) [19:55:06] that's possible? [19:55:18] prepend `@silent` [19:55:24] see the icon? [19:55:34] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217199325990617168/7h3rmtx.png?ex=66032835&is=65f0b335&hm=99ae24eaa7d2649e184e7b534179548a6f9b805ba86c8b9eebcc4f435abc0d61& [19:55:49] "This message is \@silent" [19:56:12] huh [19:57:05] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407700799188369430/1217199661828407479 [19:57:31] 🤔 [19:58:03] Someone needs to make a cute miraheze style icon with :BanCatMH: or :pupCoffeeMH: [19:58:05] omg rare killa sighting [19:58:20] dont look at me all i can do is recolor and crop [19:58:47] mwahhttps://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1216861950609461380/QWMC2mk.png?ex=6601ee01&is=65ef7901&hm=bcf46d5820fba61fcc49ed66e0cfbaaa9048efc65ebeae415e559d368663b862& [19:59:19] Perfect now just put the ban cat in the middle of it [19:59:31] like a nest? [19:59:31] :BanCatMH: :StrongestSupportMH: :StrongestSupportMH: :StrongestSupportMH: [19:59:44] <.labster> Yeah, our server isn't cute enough [19:59:49] it's meant to be a flower thoug [20:00:02] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217200450130939925/G40Rl9B.png?ex=66032941&is=65f0b441&hm=6b5fe5c0782ccdcd2d1176abb45d89bda6642695d4d84b8c916740f61d5ce1d4& [20:00:49] <.labster> The standard Miraheze logo is also a flower [20:01:25] guh [20:01:48] thats cap [20:02:01] I thought it was a honeycomb [20:02:09] <.labster> that too [20:02:39] <.labster> remember this logo? https://wiki.zaori.org/w/images/thumb/0/0c/MediaWiki_logo.svg/900px-MediaWiki_logo.svg.png [20:02:52] <.labster> :mirahezelogo: [20:02:59] <.labster> see the resemblance? [20:03:12] huh [20:03:54] The MH logo is a combination of a honeycomb and the old sunflower [20:29:48] Speaking of MW logos, Wikitech has probably got the coolest one. [20:30:01] agreed [20:30:03] [1/2] Ah yes. [20:30:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1217208005934710834/Wikitech-2021-blue-large-icon.svg.png?ex=6603304b&is=65f0bb4b&hm=171659df83402f11ca4d694e815ad75add3cd6f5eca4814b33a724eedaa8dc94& [20:30:06] Mediawiki/wikitech [20:32:22] @agentisai what are we doing for archivng SR, Steward_requests/(Un)deletions/ArchiveX? [20:32:28] cause boy it needs it [20:33:27] TBH the page should be merged into RfRW; both are very closely related and having them be separate seems a little bureaucratic [20:33:57] yeah [20:34:05] we have to move so many [20:34:13] Thats the fandom logo, right 🤔 [20:34:25] Well, just the undeletion part; deletion can stay separate [20:34:48] Also Discord mobile ui is fucked again 😭 [20:35:27] it do that [20:35:42] That'd be it, yeah, but I haven't had time to set up autoarchiving [20:35:57] is it on wiki or server [20:36:55] @rodejong re https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/42054, I would ask the requestor if their wiki is a reception wiki as it seems reception wiki-ish but doesn't have enough context to definitively determine if it is [20:39:00] @tali64 I think @rodejong is more than capable of coming to a conclusion [20:40:01] The questions they've asked seem absolutely fine to me and they have enough experience to work out if they need to ask for more info [20:40:12] I'm sure they'll ask if they need backup or a second opinion [20:41:28] Understood, won't happen again [20:43:25] I was thinking rfrw should actually mergw into sr [20:43:32] For the record, I also don't think it's a reception wiki. The approved definition of one is "Wikis should not be structured around bullet-point, "good/bad" commentary". They seem to actually want to document it. [20:44:02] [1/2] I have no problem with input, But rather asking in here, write to me private. I am not at all familliar with that concept yet, but finding my way. [20:44:02] [2/2] @rhinosf1 I don't mind really. We're a community that helps eachother. I do the same but in the Wiki Creation channel. One can take it with him/her in their decission, or ignore it. 🙂 [20:44:27] what request is it, juggling mobile atm [20:44:40] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/42054#mw-section-request [20:44:46] [1/3] ```This Wiki is gonna be a list of controversial / Offensive wads (mods) for the 1993 and 1994 video games DooM and DooM 2. The subject matter of these wads could involve, mass murder, racism, and many other disturbing / controversial topics, even though these topics are disturbing / controversial, it should still be documented. Also, just because I want to document these wads, it do [20:44:46] [2/3] es not mean I support any of these messed up topics, this wiki is not meant to encourage discrimination or hate and it is not meant to encourage to spread unsubstantiated insult, hate or rumors against a person or group of people, and this wiki is not meant to cause / create drama, this wiki is purely meant to document Offensive / Controversial DooM wads. Each article on the wiki wil [20:44:46] [3/3] l document a specific offensive doom wad and any controversy connected them and a link for the wad will be provided. The purpose of this wiki is to document and archive the history of these offensive DooM wads.``` [20:45:39]