[06:37:51] Discord restricted my main account from sending any messages for two years [06:38:43] [1/2] This is very cringe Discord [06:38:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1218448346746982511/signal-2024-03-15-201343-002.png?ex=6607b373&is=65f53e73&hm=76155f4976a3f24b2b4615c37dbfc1b5e4c8a86dd0531c63462da6d48bbdb44b& [06:38:59] I'll never know what I'm banned for because they don't provide any details on what violated those rules [06:39:31] I have some theories but prohibited content rule [06:40:53] I didn't even know this was a thing tbh [06:41:08] I thought it was like 2 stages: either you're good or poof, you're banned [06:41:16] Nah this was a recent change [06:41:26] It used to be either you're banned or unbanned but now this happened [06:41:37] I heard from one person who had the same thing happen to them but the ban got removed after a few days so I'm hoping that happens [06:41:53] I see [06:42:23] [1/2] Also idk why they have nothing in expired violations because they did call me a spambot once a few months ago [06:42:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1218449266154930176/image.png?ex=6607b44e&is=65f53f4e&hm=75ecbe347493209dac12b80356b135c7c573becc61094a7ad555036b50ae0930& [06:42:44] Yea [07:33:10] wtf did you do [07:33:34] Idk [07:33:41] They don't really say [07:33:53] “self endangerment” [07:34:07] did u say anything suicidal?? [07:34:12] Well [07:34:15] Yes [07:34:16] But [07:34:23] That's not what it means probably [07:34:36] i think that could be it [07:34:41] knowing discord.. [07:34:41] Self endangerment is like nsfw [07:34:47] how? [07:35:03] Minors participating in NSFW yknow [07:35:11] I don't do that [07:35:18] self endangerment could mean a lot of things [07:35:23] Yeah I know [07:35:29] but in discord.com/guidelines [07:35:37] It's like no minors edating etc [07:37:17] In a few days I think I'll try to appeal to Discord just so I can find out what "child self endangerment" is [07:38:26] yeah [07:38:33] good luck [07:38:37] Thx [07:38:37] /gen [07:39:30] Oh yeah a year ago I got a warning for child safety and then a ban for being under 13 literally like at the exact same time a few seconds apart lol [07:39:31] “cant use some parts of discord” lol [07:39:40] Lmao yeah [07:39:44] I guess I can read messages [07:39:52] pfftt [07:40:04] [1/2] I also can delete messages [07:40:04] [2/2] I'll check later if I can edit them [07:40:23] and u can also change your name [07:40:28] xD [07:40:31] Yea lol [07:41:08] imagine they actually banned u and u couldnt even look at the account standings page [07:41:32] I think in that case they'd email you [07:41:49] also, at least that page exists now, so like you at least get to see what bullshit theyre making up to suspend you [07:41:53] Before account standing existed they emailed me when they nuked my original account [07:41:58] Yea [07:42:58] pfft what did they get you for that time? [07:43:03] breathing? [07:44:00] [1/2] They thought I was under 13 which was very weird [07:44:00] [2/2] I wasn't underage and around the same time a lot of people I knew alao got suspended as underage including one person who said "I'm an undercover 12 year old loli FBI agent" [07:44:23] I'm assuming there was just some banwave or AI going on then [07:44:36] is that account gone now? [07:44:41] Yeah it is [07:44:45] damn [07:44:59] pfftt that message is literaly clearly a joke?? [07:45:04] what were they thinking [07:45:06] Ikr [07:45:11] lmfao [07:45:22] My old account was an account given to me by someone else and was created in like 2021 so it's a shame it got deleted but I don't care too much [07:45:24] there is no one on earth who would read that message and think that theyre serious [07:45:33] real [07:45:38] Alr I need to sleep it's almost 1 am [07:45:39] Gn [07:45:44] gn [08:21:14] the nice thing about the recent change is that I think they actually do let you log in and see even if the ban is complete [10:14:04] [1/2] woo- [10:14:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1218502538471538769/H.png?ex=6607e5eb&is=65f570eb&hm=be4b707d62d83f44e98280d6cd34685fd1cc3e3fbb0835d50f1bc73e13fd6128& [13:00:42] On today's episode of stupid things the WMF is doing, is removing Mobile.css from MobileFrontend by the end of 2024 🤔 [13:01:30] https://tenor.com/view/blinking-eyes-white-guy-blinking-meme-what-huh-gif-26334322 [13:06:27] That's actually a good idea [13:08:45] I disagree [13:12:08] Why? [13:12:15] Everything said in the task is accurate [13:12:29] > To make the mobile site behave more consistently with the desktop site, in T359488 we made MediaWiki:Minerva.css render blocking. Since MediaWiki:Mobile.css is poorly documented, not render blocking and often used inappropriately we will sunset its usage. [13:13:17] ??? [13:13:31] Because its going to lead to a lot of code duplication. They're failing to replace it with any source of common styling across mobile. [13:13:37] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1218547726590148638/voice-message.ogg?ex=66081001&is=65f59b01&hm=a2cc97d763b7c0a02242e38a14cecb18e8a8efba5615293c319cd2d4f4e6f566& [13:13:38] it was the only way to customize mobile mode?? [13:13:48] Y’all saw nothing [13:13:55] I did [13:13:58] Heard it too [13:14:00] I did [13:14:01] 🧢 [13:14:08] Misclick [13:14:40] Um anyways! [13:14:43] Also [13:14:46] > An additional issue here is that MediaWiki:Mobile.css is loaded for all skins on the mobile domain commonly used as if it is MediaWiki:Minerva.css which means if T173527 is ever resolved, other skins will look very broken. For this reason, MediaWiki:Minerva.css should be restored to support skin-specific customizations [13:15:05] What’s some of the coolest wiki main pages y’all have seen [13:15:15] I need um. Inspiration [13:15:26] Yeah that [13:15:59] Thats user choice, though. They're taking away peoples ability to apply common styles across mobile. Try and justify it all you want its a bit of a dick move. Regardless of whether people are using Mobile.css wrong or not. [13:16:00] [1/3] well, yeah [13:16:00] [2/3] if I used Cosmos w/ mobile front end I had to add Cosmos specific code in Mobile.css [13:16:00] [3/3] everyone hate Minerva [13:16:26] Which is a problem [13:16:37] for who? [13:17:01] Cosmos is a responsive skin and it would be perfectly acceptable for Cosmos.css to load on Mobile [13:17:18] Again I disagree on that 😂 [13:17:33] Some things id like to look different on mobile for cosmos [13:17:35] you forgot that the reason people use MFE if they keep old Vector and Monobook on desktop [13:17:38] Do we have examples of css that isn't skin specific that we're loading in mobile.css? [13:18:16] What? [13:18:37] If there's a challenge that needs solving that a replacement won't exist for, let's raise it. [13:18:57] But this decision is one I've seen coming for a long time and the justification is fully there for. [13:19:00] [1/2] if they wanted to use Cosmos as default desktop skin ofc they won't need MFE [13:19:00] [2/2] but if they don't and need MFE, they'd choose a skin better than Minerva [13:19:15] I give up trying to raise stuff with WMF. They'll do whatever they want and damn everyone else so there really is no point raising anything with them from my perspective. [13:19:30] _looks at centralauth_ [13:19:42] CentralAuth is an utter disaster [13:20:31] But I'd be interested to see examples of what needs to be in Mobile.css [13:21:07] people who have to use MFE try to make mobile mode as close to desktop as possible [13:21:23] ofc things like coloring and fonts usually go first [13:21:50] but there's no way to have these things same across all skins [13:22:04] w/ the same code [13:23:17] [1/2] also Timeless is better for on my earlier example, Cosmos is a more superior pick for mobile mode because the colors are settings based [13:23:17] [2/2] I agree tho that some elements look awkward, I still had to tweak some stuff in Mobile.css [13:24:08] But if cosmos is producing slightly weird elements, that's skin-specific [13:24:45] The number of skins that are responsive is low compared to the number we have available [13:25:24] Also Mobile.css is not render blocking as pointed out so changing font colour or anything using it could actually look quite bad on some slower devices [13:26:06] so, what people will have to do Mobile.css is abolished? [13:26:33] does that means that MFE stops ignoring Common.css and skins css? [13:26:50] its being replaced with Minerva.css [13:26:54] which will only load for Minerva [13:27:04] common.css will not be loaded in its place [13:27:12] and if I loath Minerva? [13:27:23] then you're fucked [13:27:28] great [13:29:02] So if you choose another skin for mobile, it won't load that skin css? [13:29:17] I assume it will load Skin.css for that skin [13:29:25] We will be able to configure it [13:29:59] so Timeless on MFE -> Timeless.css [13:30:15] ? [13:30:25] But yes either use Skin.css or TemplateStyles [13:30:45] well, TS is a whole other thing [13:30:59] just adding unecessary complexity 🤷🏼‍♂️ [13:31:56] From 1.42, Skin.css should work on mobiles for all skins [13:32:17] A lot of css could be moved to TemplateStyles [13:32:18] Wonder if you can load styles in mobileonly tags :ThinkingHardMH: [13:36:09] skin specific stuff like sidebar and background outside content area don't work w/ TS [13:36:41] I tried to use it once for making a unique page, per request [13:37:31] TS working despite MFE on templates, or whatever is in page content area - that I knew yes [14:12:47] Speaking of, imagine being the person closing Vector 2022 RFC [14:14:40] Soo, how will I skin my mobile site once the next LTS comes out and I update? [14:35:23] RfC? [14:35:43] (I mean I know what an RFC is i didn’t know there was one for thi) [14:40:57] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/Deployment_of_Vector_(2022) [14:42:09] 114K words is all it takes to update a skin on en.wiki and about half as much to fail to roll back said update. [14:47:24] No dark theme, 0/10 [15:14:28] What are the pros and cons of Vector 2022 vs Vector Legcady? [15:15:59] It’s visual [15:16:03] So subjective [15:56:57] Yea [15:57:41] [1/3] It's not the coolest but it's still good for a main page [15:57:41] [2/3] https://polandball.miraheze.org [15:57:41] [3/3] I don't want too many bells and whistles personally [16:25:40] For working/building a wiki, vector-2022 is great. Due to the tools on the right where you can add your own links (.js), you have your necessary tools right on the right side. [16:28:23] I heard the more narrow view is easir to read [16:30:25] It is [16:30:33] It is indeed [16:31:12] But it's white is very bright, so for reading I like a more pastel color [16:57:11] [1/2] interesting [16:57:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1218603985796337715/2024-03-16_19_56_56.png?ex=66084466&is=65f5cf66&hm=1feeb8c5c915786386fd40a336284076a5451a3f6991ab3c4e879bf89b7f9499& [19:02:07] icons broken [19:02:24] [1/2] meanwhile [19:02:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1218635495136038952/image.png?ex=660861bf&is=65f5ecbf&hm=ac8978b519552832f2537c61b36273229bf645e7d6f45460035e58d21518f8eb& [21:23:51] [1/2] fandom sure has some quality journalism [21:23:51] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1218671095842869248/image.png?ex=660882e7&is=65f60de7&hm=3fd814ae9f59b47daa46c70f3d63b871f45d918e20338b0c4f14a79a20688377& [21:23:56] https://www.fandom.com/articles/top-10-anime-ships-wikis-2023 [21:24:35] this is why Miraheze will fail /s [21:24:47] Lmao [21:24:57] [1/2] even funnier when it's on fandom because the entire dev wiki + many other wikis had been replaced with bronseeele images [21:24:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1218671373053067424/image.png?ex=66088329&is=65f60e29&hm=752cf8e5aa53df6996b184de3bea96954fdbebbcb9837de6e91381c6ff1a1419& [21:25:29] This is a list of most searched ships so I wonder if it got onto most searched because everyone was searching for it after nearly every wiki got replaced with "Bronseele is cute" for like 10 minutes 💀 [21:26:30] [1/2] Lmaoo this is on https://shipping.fandom.com/wiki/Bronseele [21:26:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1218671762125099088/image.png?ex=66088385&is=65f60e85&hm=def2aea5ed5e429ff3f027c81dc63f14992a27d424528402c81c64d0f9f42060& [21:57:38] <.labster> Is that anime good? I’m so behind in anime. I’m current watching Hidamari Sketch from a decade ago [21:58:13] It's not an anime, it's a video game series, which contributes to the ridiculousness of the articl [21:58:21] The video game series is great but it's not an anime [21:59:16] [1/2] Recent trailer from the game: [21:59:16] [2/2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSg-JRqQ8QA [22:05:35] <.labster> What are the top Miraheze ships? [22:06:16] 😳 [22:07:42] Western Digital Green 🤝 Hardware Failure [22:30:49] <.labster> @serverlessharej 🤝 policy [22:51:52] @zeusdeegoose 🤝 essays [22:59:47] @rodejong 🤝 wikiCreations [23:00:36] <.labster> Silicona 🫶 RFCs [23:19:09] its also chinese, not japanese [23:19:33] Miraheze 🤝 502 [23:20:09] <.labster, replying to luna.nightfern> That's #1 on the countdown, the love affair that endures [23:25:09] Apex ♥️ stewards [23:26:16] Apex ♥️ stewards [23:31:58] New Users 🤝 Wikipedia Infoboxes [23:32:15] Discord user 🤝 infobox questions [23:42:18] Well it's really global [23:42:35]