[00:05:19] lmao wtf 💀 [00:05:44] @luna.nightfern btw what's your Miraheze username? [00:05:55] AmberWing1352 [00:06:04] Lol [00:06:24] [1/2] they trying to spread [00:06:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220161555329712128/7hUwerh.png?ex=660def00&is=65fb7a00&hm=6ea490aac2859ea9cb7a37f0ceaf8d50aa85d9c32918e50cb47cc35b48590aec& [00:06:58] watch it get deleted [00:07:32] I don't think it will from what they were saying in the enwiki channel [00:07:40] I granted you access to the Genshin Impact Wiki [00:08:13] It has a good amount of sources [00:08:31] yay thanks and ad astra abyssosque [00:09:41] Np and lol [01:03:29] :Thonk: [02:22:45] Strictly speaking, they can be referred to as "difference words between regions". Actually, they are different words, and both exist in the language systems of the mainland of China and Taiwan. However, the frequency of usage for these two words varies between the two places. [02:53:22] It’s like how British people might say “primary school” while Americans would call the same thing “elementary school”. Both are understandable, but one is more common than the other in the US and vice versa. [03:36:00] [1/4] The Britis English is more correct. [03:36:01] [2/4] It's the first school, so Primary [03:36:01] [3/4] The following is the second school, so Secondary [03:36:01] [4/4] Easy to understand [03:36:15] But Amaricans really need to explain everything [03:36:40] It's interesting because in Spanish, it's also primary and secondary [03:36:48] Yup [03:37:34] Pesky Americans [03:37:45] LOL [04:49:37] [1/4] Guys PSA there is a Discord banwave of seemingly random people and the appeals channel is notoriously slow so back up anything anything important on your account [04:49:37] [2/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220232825408847924/Screenshot_20240320-214834.png?ex=660e3160&is=65fbbc60&hm=d8328f49c2ba01688f6e5a824093a9d1cb1604d25a19bcf82f7e9ac34d4127cc& [04:49:37] [3/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220232825794592819/Screenshot_20240320-214840.png?ex=660e3160&is=65fbbc60&hm=fdc0770ef47ffb22280cae9b64e1fcbb27c4b535d0be05d06790fff5e2201fb2& [04:49:38] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220232826461360179/Screenshot_20240320-214844.png?ex=660e3160&is=65fbbc60&hm=60da460ee848e6d655e08c627b8784a65f7d7cb16f867501abc355ffb5bacbed& [04:54:46] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220234122698428466/Screenshot_20240320-235314.png?ex=660e3295&is=65fbbd95&hm=df1fc98daf7998bcd370a3ccf7800c3f8b97cd87e4b5a0bb4ee1795c6e719cb9& [04:59:52] Lmao what the [05:00:04] Are weird emails like that common [05:00:50] Not really [05:01:06] If anything, we have a terribly high number of phishing emails [05:01:30] like I'm talking 20+ per day that are fake account payable emails, sent to different emails like sales@ or ceo@ lol [05:01:59] Lol that's surprising, I'd expect some scam and spam but 20+ per day is kinda incredible [05:15:46] Oh, that's pretty darn common, esp. if you're in any way close to the money of an org. [05:16:21] smokey the bear voice: only you can prevent spearphishing [05:17:01] Ah I see [05:49:06] Ah yes. 大数学. big math [05:50:20] damn, wishing yall luck with your appeals [05:50:52] [1/2] Yeah and its near unusable on mobile [05:50:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220248243171098715/image.png?ex=660e3fbc&is=65fbcabc&hm=5ac81e28b6e6f89b882d668375a6c787dd6b953d3f8d0df3539ce7aaee8ac3bd& [06:00:57] [1/2] ?? [06:00:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220250778825134080/image.png?ex=660e4218&is=65fbcd18&hm=c5631ecdf414ef2cd7ba898880c738f0d71e63ec2224570341cf7ee857ed0975& [06:01:03] pretty sure vertical-align is a valid property [06:01:18] real [06:25:36] TS CSS is sanitized, enable TS extender extension [06:30:53] I enabled the TS extender but I still have the issue [06:39:52] emmm, I guess this is Gongxiang01 email to you. [06:41:09] That was also my first thought [06:54:49] lol, when the Portability hub was active, the mobile skin that Fandom used was Mercury. [06:55:53] lol, when the Portability hub was active, the mobile skin Fandom used was Mercury. [06:55:59] [1/4] Because: [06:55:59] [2/4] 1. By default, hosting a wiki comes with costs [06:56:00] [3/4] 2. There are literally other options. Miraheze, wiki.gg, Fandom, are all free [06:56:00] [4/4] They seem to have stumbled upon a premium service but not the 3 major free wiki hosting services 🤣 [06:57:38] Oh, and sup @smolellie, remember me from the NCS Wiki? [06:57:44] Hope that wiki is doing fine [06:58:37] Correct [07:01:56] [1/2] Miraheze logo in my color scheme [07:01:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220266125204521010/image0.png?ex=660e5063&is=65fbdb63&hm=c9a0c1918253f9eb5bd22f61ced940346ea6cacd7acfaab167e1d2c76261879d& [07:07:26] What did you think of Mercury's experience:pupCoffeeMH: ? [07:07:51] Tbh, it was fine imo [07:08:00] Only problem was it lacked customization [07:08:17] Good thing that this is solved nowadays [07:08:46] Now, personally, my only issue is the logged out experience [07:08:56] Because there are too many ads [07:09:08] yo [07:09:11] Otherwise, the current skin would be fine [07:11:11] But in all cases, I prefer primarily using Fandom (and other wikis and wiki platforms) on desktop [07:17:49] I remember Mercury is not a MediaWiki-based skin, it has less features than FandomMobile. [09:14:25] Mercury is fandom version of Minerva? [09:14:38] or FandomMobile is [10:00:11] [1/2] No, it's not. [10:00:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220310984472662026/946772777359249408.png?ex=660e7a2a&is=65fc052a&hm=342db885ea2223af3d640101b4ecf095090900689835315f5f5c2b6b46e91a4d& [10:03:26] Can I have that on my wiki? Fit's perfectly [10:03:56] I guess sk [10:04:06] Thanks [10:42:24] I can make u a custom color miraheze logo if u want tho [10:42:41] cuz #098765 green and white identifies me [10:42:42] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [10:43:03] kinda like how I made my version of the Fandom logo [10:43:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220321798810505266/Site-logo.webp?ex=660e843d&is=65fc0f3d&hm=fa42e8df11a405d60b84ffcd718ca3f1f28b223e29ff91b29c6a2b98deb38694& [10:43:10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220321801419362384/image0.png?ex=660e843d&is=65fc0f3d&hm=b241fc8e7ff253ed516e5d943c13e1b5168d7c2ac03b7a02d7288bdc3666c0d7& [11:18:41] [1/2] If you could make it in my colour [11:18:41] [2/2] https://jwmeeting.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [11:46:46] they've launched some new automatic crap that's given me shit as well lately [11:46:54] it's an ai thing I'm sure of it [11:47:14] That is so stupid [11:47:20] 😠 [11:47:43] Ew fandom [12:42:24] @cacklettaguy1655 welcome back from the very depths of the abyss [12:43:08] :Partyheze: [12:44:57] Thank you. [12:46:07] Enjoy the wikivacation? [12:49:08] I've been around the whole time. [12:49:39] I've been around. [12:50:22] Ah, my bad [15:02:30] Yeah probably [15:27:30] continuing the DDOS from #general I guess the cashier analogy makes more sense but I do feel generally a DDOS is just perceived as something way more serious [15:27:50] and especially if there's like a botnet or something then that's clearly way worse than just "distracting the cashier" [15:28:19] Like if the population of New York rioted outside the white house [15:28:20] [1/2] I don't think the perception of it being a serious cyber attack is very accurate [15:28:21] [2/2] A botnet is a serious issue but a DDoS is the simplest cyber attack that script kiddies can do all the time [15:30:13] I guess but like if it's a business it would cause much more damage since it's on a large scale [15:30:19] Yeah I see [15:30:27] Ik what you mean [15:36:12] A botnet would generally be required for a successful DDoS though, for any target of decent size [15:36:25] Oh that's true [16:20:47] A DDoS is normally backed in some form by serious & organised crime [16:23:35] But why Miraheze of all targets tho [16:23:51] @bluemoon0332 normally it's pissed off minecraft users [16:23:59] That's been like 3 different attacks [16:24:10] it's who? 😂 [16:24:29] I didn't know we had so much beef with Minecraft players [16:24:47] Normally they don't like something a particular wiki has done [16:25:01] So they decide a DDoS is good enough revenge on the wiki [16:25:32] That's basically what the detectives have come up with [16:25:51] I'm not sure if @agentisai is going to log this one with IC3 [16:26:08] Or if they are any good, I'm told not, but Notts Police were nice guys [16:37:29] Lmao wtf [16:38:01] I know [16:38:13] Multiple cases have been referred to the police [16:39:42] 2 cases were closed as not having any further lines of enquiry to identify a suspect [16:40:07] 1 case has been referred by Notts Police to authorities in the US so they can speak to a person of interest [17:08:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/42337#mw-section-comments do wiki creators get notified of replies in the request comments [17:09:01] they do [17:09:11] by default only on-wiki though, it doesn't send emials [17:09:38] Speaking from experience, yes; I still get notifications from request comments occasionally [17:10:03] Alr [17:13:26] they do but wcs also get so many notifications from the process that going through each of them means things will get missed or a great deal of time is spent just dealing with notifs [17:23:54] [1/2] @tali64 [17:23:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220422649025663127/image.png?ex=660ee229&is=65fc6d29&hm=453d33056d67c1611fb5cb869608f147f7334ec3a66917151295af9ec6ca811a& [17:23:58] https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525 [17:24:12] I redirected the hilarious characters category to the funny characters category and AF blocked me [17:24:22] That should not be happening [17:24:29] Yeah I know [17:24:42] why redirect categories anyway [17:25:21] Well because "Hilarious characters" has a lot of content in it and I want to merge it with "Funny characters" so I'm creating the redirect to indicate that [17:25:55] may as well just merge, flag with a a template or bring it up in a venue, it'll be a redirect that muddies the page and doesn't change the practice [17:32:05] rip [17:32:13] He unblocked me [17:32:18] But the filter might need some changes [17:32:30] u seem to be getting unlucky with accts being blocking [17:32:35] Why tho [17:32:53] Probably bc they're childish [17:33:26] Might as well go back to Minecraft or somethin [18:23:25] You haven’t seen 2b2t [18:23:43] It’s toxicity makes Twitter look like a puppy daycare [18:23:45] heh [18:23:53] we have that wiki or close enough to it [18:24:47] We do I think yeah [18:33:43] lol yeah [19:14:01] <.labster, replying to luna.nightfern> "unlucky" is not really the word I'd use. One plays with fire, one gets burned. [19:26:06] Bruh but that block was by a filter [19:26:25] <.labster> 🔥 [19:26:28] I've gotten banned from both Discord and GitHub by the antispam filter and the customer support team didn't believe I'm human (for Discord they just haven't replied yet) [19:28:07] <.labster> I guess I learned my lesson that time I got banned from AOL [19:28:46] from GH, the basically unmoderated software repo? [19:28:49] there are worst places to be banned from, I guess. [19:28:51] what did you even do [19:29:04] has anyone ever been banned on Fandom [19:29:13] _blocked_ should I say [19:29:27] <.labster> Made an sub account called SteevCasse for the lulz, never actually used it, months later got hit for "impersonation" of their CEO [19:32:11] Well yes [19:32:17] But like that was more deserved [19:36:34] <.labster> So you've been banned from Discord, Fandom, GitHub, Incredible Characters, and Mirah-- oh wait, not yet on that one. [19:36:57] "yet" [19:37:54] <.labster> If you want to brag about it I can give you a 5 minute ban for the lulz [19:48:48] I don't want to be banned on Miraheze for 5 minutes because I'm editing Incredible Characters rn [19:49:00] I was unbanned from Incredible Characters a few minutes after getting banned though because it was a filter false positive [19:59:24] there was a time a reception wiki ban was borderline a badge of honor tbh [19:59:33] they tried getting rid of me a couple times really early on [20:01:39] Well yea there are some reception wikis that it doesn't really matter if you're banned from lol [20:04:23] [1/2] hmmmmmm [20:04:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220463038612766730/EnDIGL6.png?ex=660f07c7&is=65fc92c7&hm=b5a71d5924786b4f8c3e7d1353c8a5524434e787da7bb814bca6afe8ba2160d3& [20:04:29] chat should I do it [20:05:23] probably [20:05:27] problem #1: you are using avast [20:05:34] Agreed [20:05:37] what did you even download? [20:05:49] https://github.com/saturneric/GpgFrontend [20:05:50] if you want to use gpg on windows just download gpg4win [20:05:58] hmmmmmmmmmm [20:06:01] good to know [20:06:09] (has never used gpg) [20:06:12] I think Kleopatra is the best PGP tool for Windows [20:06:21] it comes with gpg4win [20:06:26] Ah I see [20:06:45] ill let bavast deal with that ig [20:06:53] good idea [20:07:43] https://www.openpgp.org/software/kleopatra/ ? [20:08:04] Kleopatra comes with gpg4win [20:08:13] just download that and you've got all you need [20:08:23] [1/3] @tali64 could you fix this [20:08:23] [2/3] https://greatcharacters.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Delete?action=edit [20:08:23] [3/3] the documentation is showing up when the template is transcluded, also add `NOINDEX/includeonly` [20:09:08] so either or or better to just install gpg4wn [20:09:18] just install gpg4win [20:11:22] ima need to find a usb drive I can use to store key 2fa codes [20:12:43] or preferably multible given my habit of losing shit [20:15:05] Or just buy a yubikey [20:15:08] Well 2 [20:15:19] Then you have 2 much more secure hardware tokens [20:16:14] eh, maybe at one point [20:16:50] Is the norm to have just one PGP pair or one for each thing(ie one for just MH recovery) [20:16:54] they expensive tho [20:17:00] oh yeah y'all have the main established 2b2t wiki [20:17:15] Much to our dismay [20:17:45] I just have one, I also use it to sign Git commits on GitHub, so if I ever need to, I'll use that one to prove my identity to SRE [20:17:52] let's hope that never happens though [20:18:31] I think it's normal to just have one PGP pair per online identity [20:18:36] That's what I do at least [20:19:09] Note to self learn how to sign commits [20:20:12] you'll have to use the Git CLI for that [20:20:15] they can move to https://www.2b2t.online/wiki [20:20:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220467027970359436/image.png?ex=660f0b7e&is=65fc967e&hm=24fe521a052ce3e8d23d1fbaa963b5eebbc2668f7a650bc1babf81fd5cbe2bde& [20:20:36] this is me signing a commit on one of my mw-config branches [20:20:45] I need to use the CLI more [20:23:10] The name field is private I asusme? [20:23:26] nope [20:23:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220467832572084224/h43eLwf.png?ex=660f0c3e&is=65fc973e&hm=55276d18c343341b014d660381959641f448a72aef2064b8791a190160c139ad& [20:23:30] neither is the email [20:23:31] mmmmmmmmm [20:23:39] you can see that above [20:23:40] so lets not use my full legal name [20:23:46] probably a wise choice [20:23:58] im stoopid okay idk this stuff very well [20:24:06] Name and email are both part of the public key you can share [20:24:12] You don't have to include a name or email though iirc [20:24:20] haven't been doxed yet and dont wanna start now [20:24:46] I've received doxxing threats and attempts but nobody has gotten any further than "stupid child from california" [20:25:19] worst i did was accidently send a ss with my first name on a small discord, but my friend/server owner was luckily smarted then me and deleted it [20:25:33] It'd probably be pretty easy to dox me if you tried, my real name and real email are public [20:25:33] That's good lol [20:25:39] not like a give a shit [20:25:44] Lol fair [20:26:21] Yeah one thing that felt so weird when I joined wiki communities is how much more public people were with names and such [20:27:20] protect key with passphrase [20:27:22] hmmmmm [20:27:33] do I trust my 2 braincells [20:27:53] naturally I did disclose with miraheze ltd but that's about as far as it gets for connecting real world to hobbies like this [20:31:05] included how? [20:31:18] at the top of it or something idk [20:31:23] they're in the exported public key you'll have to share [20:31:40] I was on Fandom and it asked me to take a survey so I'm filling it out as if I'm a wiki admin that is really mad with the recent changes and is about to leave the farm to go somewhere else because it takes my word for whatever I say [20:31:48] They probably don't care but it's cool lol [20:32:01] aight [20:32:05] so ill put just name [20:32:25] it doesn't have to be a real email yk [20:32:32] ill go with no passphrase for now ig itll be fiiiine [20:32:49] I already have 5 emails I don't need more [20:34:32] yay i have a key now [20:34:39] ok so just put asfhasihfyuasgfyuagsufyg@example.com or something [20:34:54] if the email is just display whats the point lol [20:35:13] either use a real email or none [20:36:23] does it make sense to use PGP to sign 2fa codes? [20:36:43] ? [20:36:51] how would you sign a 2fa code [20:36:58] the file they stored in [20:37:14] ie put recov codes in a txt and encypt [20:37:30] . [20:37:38] I don't think that would be very useful by itself but you could use full disk encryption for a better effect [20:37:50] Not much because you said your keypair has no passphrase [20:38:09] If you're talking about a website storing recovery codes on its server, hashing might work better [20:39:09] nah, I mean the codes I have to bypass 2FA [20:39:12] so the private keys are just there unencrypted, anyone who can steal your harddrive will be able to decrypt the codes without much hassle [20:39:56] i might go and make a key w/ a pass i just don't know how much i trust myself to not forget it [20:40:41] if you trust your key to not be compromised by malware or someone stealing your harddrive you probably don't need it tbh [20:41:02] imho the biggest risk is myself [20:41:25] probably best to leave it without a passphrase then for now [20:41:32] one less point of failure [20:42:22] this is my first real forey into the realm of cryptography and security so yea [20:42:41] I could always make a new one for my more sensitive stuff [20:51:40] if you make a commit on github doesn't it sign it automatically? [20:51:57] yes, with GitHub's OpenPGP key [20:52:08] I was talking about commits signed with your own keys [20:53:36] me when i have no idea how to use gpg cli [20:53:48] oh well [20:53:58] one of these options probably works! [20:57:46] [1/2] commits signed with GitHub's key look like this (CA's email has been redacted from this picture) [20:57:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220476471198355466/Screenshot_2024-03-21_21-55-45.png?ex=660f144a&is=65fc9f4a&hm=87af1824e78c79e7886752a42db292275984c9438251c2cbc1132759c036f050& [20:58:06] it says it can't check because I haven't yet imported their new key [20:58:09] 😢 [21:17:33] Just use full disk encryption [21:17:55] ill consider it once i understand it [21:19:31] You don't have to understand cryptography to use encryption lol [21:20:03] I have nearly failed math class every year and virtually never succeed in any cryptography challenges in any CTFs but I still know how to use cryptography software [21:20:06] I just don't understand what it's doing [21:25:39] the top of the frontpage features a base with a swastika [21:26:18] bruh [21:28:00] yeah [21:28:04] ill prob look into it [21:28:31] from WHOM?? [21:29:02] I can DM you about it later [21:36:30] Relatively tame [21:37:53] Legitimately, that’s not much of a joke [21:48:25] ig i need to publish my key somewhere now [22:21:24] @justleafy2003 sorry to ping, but what were you going to say by "speaking of which?" [22:21:34] It's probably best to move to this channel now anyway [22:26:27] We seem to be being DDoS'd again [22:26:38] wth [22:26:46] People must love to do that to us then. [22:26:49] We're not too terribly slow which is good but still some noticable sluggishness [22:26:54] ouch [22:27:10] I wonder why they target Miraheze so much? [22:27:31] Miraheze must just live rent-free in their minds then. [22:27:42] Like idk why else they would constantly target it. [22:36:56] It is definitely Fandom [22:37:06] They're listening to us [22:37:12] rip [22:37:21] its me secretly [22:37:24] i'm hatching my master plan [22:37:25] Fandom trying to squash the competition. [22:37:28] Wow [22:37:39] OA bringing the organization down from the inside? [22:37:39] unravel miraheze from the inside [22:37:42] What a shocker. [22:37:43] /j [22:37:45] https://tenor.com/yl1z.gif [22:37:49] LOL [22:38:36] Redirects miraheze.org to telepedia [22:38:43] lmao [22:38:47] the master plan [22:39:14] Shhhh im not at that part of the plan yet [22:39:18] ...hmm actually that would be a great story to write about on...Scratchpad. [22:39:20] oops mb [22:39:23] LOL [22:39:31] was I not supposed to say that out loud [22:39:35] OA got exposed. [22:39:37] rip [22:39:48] Lol it's incredible what kind of things people pick fights about online [22:40:10] They're willing to risk a prison sentence just to get revenge against a website they don't like [22:40:15] Right, well I am gulity of it too, but mine are still...less destructive than DDOS'ingf something. [22:41:28] Hmm yes, I could use Scratchpad to come up with hypothetical stories like this. [22:41:29] heh [22:41:41] OA bringing down Miraheze from the inside. [22:41:42] /j [22:42:02] everyone be exposin my plans 😦 [22:42:05] LOL [22:42:09] God its hard to be a criminal these days [22:42:21] OA pls, you failed the number one rule then. [22:42:32] Don't announce it until well after you do it. [22:42:40] And only if you have to. [22:42:41] lol [22:43:12] I mean it is a lot harder now-a-days though, you're right. [22:43:21] Compared to like even the 1970s or w/e. [22:44:03] I would be a rubbish criminal [22:44:12] same here honestly [22:44:34] I am just better at causing fictional hurricanes hit land. [22:44:42] And writing about them. [22:58:58] <.labster> I'm perhaps better at writing about real hurricanes [23:00:09] Perhaps so, because you're...a meteorologist right? [23:00:19] iirc from what you said [23:02:03] <.labster> Yep [23:02:47] <.labster> Honestly I haven't done much with it as a career, but I still know words like postive vorticity advection and geostrophic flow. [23:02:56] nice [23:03:00] convection [23:03:07] eyewall replacement cycle [23:03:07] cumulonimbus cloud [23:03:12] uhhh [23:03:17] subtropical depression [23:03:25] lol [23:03:26] mental depression [23:03:27] oop [23:03:29] ripo [23:03:41] I already have enough of that [23:03:44] uhhh [23:03:46] tropical storm [23:03:53] there we go [23:04:30] <.labster> parameterization, that's a big word. It's a term of art meaning "we made a guessing engine rather than try to calculate the real physics" [23:04:46] lol [23:05:08] my brain instantly went to php parameterization [23:05:39] <.labster> notably meteorologists don't really want to be oceanographers and soil scientists, so we tend to simulate the boundary conditions a bit loosely [23:05:41] my brain just went back to thinking about tropical cyclone stuff. [23:05:55] geography ❤️ [23:05:56] <.labster> Your brain storm surged back [23:06:02] LOL [23:06:03] yes [23:07:02] <.labster> Every once in a while the terms get double usage, like Katrina, where the tropical depression hit a geological depression called New Orleans, filling it with water. [23:07:37] Hmm, true I guess. [23:07:43] <.labster> Make me a fictional hurricane that fills up the Salton Sea, please @ultracane1997 [23:07:55] _lives in england and doesn't get hurricanes_ [23:07:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220509228020666429/Alberto_2030_track.png?ex=660f32cb&is=65fcbdcb&hm=c51b7ca55755f07d852c37047c61aec0a7a3e6d1429b261659313fde0375a803& [23:08:00] Okay after I'm done with 2030 I guess. [23:08:10] lol [23:08:57] lol all I'd have to do is make a tropical cyclone track over it from the East Pacific. [23:09:00] seems easy enough [23:09:23] <.labster, replying to ultracane1997> I wonder if that will happen in 2030. There are signs the thermohaline circulation is weakening. I always thought the "thermo" would dominate the "haline", but maybe not, according to a recent paper [23:09:53] I mean, idk, I doubt this particular one would happen...since its a March hurricane. [23:10:01] My birth month deserves some activity so meh. [23:10:08] <.labster> EPac, up the Gulf of Mexico but somehow not getting chewed up by the mountains... I guess it would have to be pretty fast moving [23:10:40] <.labster> Or gulf SSTs being pretty high, I guess. [23:10:51] Or you know [23:11:25] Just have another system similar to this happen again. [23:11:25] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Hilary [23:11:31] <.labster, replying to ultracane1997> I want to believe in March cyclogenesis [23:11:39] Me too! [23:11:49] Sadly it has not happened since 1908. [23:12:01] And even then I question its existence. [23:12:08] lol [23:12:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220510370637021184/nzmgnrnlme2kichfr1cs40tkxiaxcfb.png?ex=660f33dc&is=65fcbedc&hm=81e99edb147a41acf73582916492101cf528bc55929609dd9873f68183692311& [23:12:29] lol [23:12:31] <.labster> Hilary was really fun, as a SoCalian [23:12:56] Hmm yes, just casually having two pre-season hurricanes after the year that had no hurricanes at all! [23:12:58] (1907) [23:13:10] [1/2] > I wonder if that will happen in 2030. [23:13:11] [2/2] Dinosaurs. [23:14:17] <.labster> Otis was by far the most interesting of last year though, if only because the forecasts were completely blown, like worst case scenario https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Otis#Forecast_errors_and_distinctions [23:14:17] Me when the strongest system of the season was in the beginning parts of the season too. [23:14:19] How ironic. [23:14:52] Yeah, I remember tracking that as it explosively intensified... [23:15:02] it was other-worldly on how fast it strengthened. [23:15:33] [1/2] Well Labster, I leave you with this. [23:15:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220511146638053487/image.png?ex=660f3495&is=65fcbf95&hm=d8473bc5ae7850af29c6cb1ba4d9ec4d17a33880ecae3947e3c3cf2f2c9276b1& [23:15:35] lol [23:16:11] <.labster> EPac gets tons of what we call "data holes" because missing information from mid-ocean advects to the east, and then we really have no idea what's going on. Satellites are bad at getting some data; we really can't get radiosondes out there. [23:16:24] Wow [23:16:38] Otis kind of reminded me of Patricia 2015 on how fast it intensified. [23:17:09] [1/2] Imagine waking up one day looking at the TV and you're like: [23:17:09] [2/2] "200 mph? There is no way." @.labster [23:17:48] <.labster> Yeah. Basically one day they were saying they'd get hit by a tropical depression, the next day it was like, "Cat 4 landfall in 18 hours 🤯 " [23:17:50] That was my honest reaction. [23:17:57] ouch [23:19:07] Hmm yes and I also remember Jova and Lee becoming C5s within a short period of each other. In the East Pacific and the North Atlantic respectively. [23:19:50] anyways I may as well uhhh go sleep now [23:19:53] <.labster> the rapid intensification is something new [23:19:55] I got no sleep last night [23:19:56] rip [23:19:57] <.labster> Okay, good night [23:19:59] gn [23:20:04] ikr [23:20:06] but yeah [23:20:08] gn