[01:36:57] new fandom technical downgrade https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Antonio_R._Castro/Technical_Updates:_March_22,_2024 [01:42:27] fixing things that no one cared about but didn't fix edit notices not displaying which is way more of a problem [01:42:36] im not surprised [02:17:12] [1/3] i love that my wiki has two enabled skins (the second i don't remember enabling) [02:17:12] [2/3] citizen which looks normal [02:17:12] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220919245026885762/image.png?ex=6610b0a7&is=65fe3ba7&hm=22276bd4601e79cc2d49453eb1ae827474cde6293fb17ec8c0e60c2df38bfa36& [02:17:18] [1/2] and splash which looks...not normal [02:17:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220919271232765994/image.png?ex=6610b0ad&is=65fe3bad&hm=a1b1a72f90dedd43b3435d9578cbbd135dc913679657ef84b9751a3bf1d42fdf& [02:17:49] lo [02:18:00] try refreshing? [02:19:00] the page for the skin which it's trying to load is a 503 page for some reason [03:41:48] [1/2] So theyre?? Re-adding welcome messages?? My wiki had those stop working years ago [03:41:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1220940535624110182/Screenshot_2024-03-23-14-11-04-87_40deb401b9ffe8e1df2f1cc5ba480b12.jpg?ex=6610c47b&is=65fe4f7b&hm=f04d63a665b268e445ec853df583459b6f6f4750df8cbc9c53913cc137ec37db& [03:53:04] They turned it off during UCP then never bothered to make it again [03:54:19] Remember them presenting their research on why reimplementing chat isn't worth the money or something? I found that blog a few months ago. They probably spent more researching that than they would've spent reimplementing chat and not maintaining it ever again just like they used to do. [03:55:32] M H M [03:55:53] Honestly if they re-implement welcome messages on wikis, I'd be happy [03:55:59] it was a nice little feature [05:20:07] Does anyone else sometimes try to navigate to metawiki and accidentally type meat.miraheze.orgg [05:20:14] It's happened to me like twice now [05:30:19] Petition for meat.miraheze.org to become an official Miraheze wiki [05:30:30] Lol that'd be kinda cool [05:30:38] Different types of meat and stuff [07:34:57] hmm [09:08:39] yeah, they're gonna do it [09:09:05] I guess you can say that it is a good and welcoming change [09:11:52] [1/2] this is also a good change, and imo, it would be ideal if it is more like a combined top nav when scrolling (I did suggest this to Fandom staff before) [09:11:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221023601319219351/image.png?ex=661111d8&is=65fe9cd8&hm=b2cf0dd704d33b31bef7570590e216abecc0724ad01459e1709a85dc15b24431& [10:21:44] the others changes are alright, but nothing significant really [11:03:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221051603608670308/project_20240323_1249021-01.png?ex=66112bec&is=65feb6ec&hm=fbb9977228b83683c05608008cdca38b0040890dedcc20ff276fd09fd3c06ded& [11:03:13] Fictionalmedia [11:03:44] Wikimedia Foundation only like Miraheze [11:04:11] :mirahezelogo: [12:02:28] More bars…. [13:24:00] If this is a pending request it will likely be rejected as too broad tbh [14:05:32] [1/3] I'm getting a vision of a diagram involving Fandom, wiki.gg, Miraheze and Telepedia [14:05:32] [2/3] but I struggle to visualise it [14:05:32] [3/3] w/ conditions being ads and autonomy [14:06:19] can be 3 instead of 4 [14:06:47] depending on for whom the diagram is aimed [14:15:14] The Oracle! Focus your mind. Tell us. What does the future hold [14:15:17] Also nice pfp [14:40:56] thamks [15:23:18] It was declined 6 times already [15:24:47] Is there a limit to how many times a request can be declined [15:27:44] [1/2] Depends. Don't think so, but if a request does not change, but just get's rephrased over and over, then there are limits. I declined 5 times. And jph declined it permanently. (Do not reopen the request again) [15:27:45] [2/2] I think that is fair. [15:31:34] [1/4] But there can be situations where one WC can decline, and a bit more info is added, but still to vague, and gets declined again by another, and everytime a bit more is added. But I think 5 or 6 times should be maximum. [15:31:34] [2/4] But it is not really defined. [15:31:35] [3/4] Sometimes it can be a language barrier (Like we had with Gongxiang) where the chinese user didn't write particularly good chinese either, then it becomes even more difficult, as much get's lost in translation. [15:31:35] [4/4] Then you need to ask in different ways [15:32:51] [1/2] So officially no. But it is a gut feeling if there is something left to specify/clarify. [15:32:51] [2/2] If it's clear that the user won't clarify what we're after, then we decline it permanently [15:47:48] I just realized that template: on en.wiki is a lot more obscure than darknet marketplaces. [15:48:30] Everyone heard of TOR but nobody except editors knows about templates. [15:53:38] WhT [15:54:14] If you walk up to an average person on the street and ask what a Wikipedia template is they will most likely go: "What?" [15:59:17] Miraheze, Telepedia all have more autonomy than Wiki.gg, but both would aruguably rank lower than MH if ads is the main factor. [16:00:13] Autonomy in what way [16:03:15] [1/2] 50$ for steam [steamcommunity.com/gift/758474483](https://u.to/gDeDIA ) [16:03:15] [2/2] @everyone [16:03:56] @Discord Moderators [16:04:11] Not Rob... [16:04:29] Timed Out [16:04:36] Can you delete the messages [16:04:41] Yes [16:05:51] If the issue persists we'll ban but that's disappointing [16:59:31] Oh we got a dmehus [16:59:41] is it the real deal? [16:59:46] hey RhinosF1 [16:59:48] he has voice on #miraheze-interwiki-feed [16:59:57] bluemoon0332, indeed :) [17:00:32] yet I don't have voice here despite having voice on #miraheze smh [17:00:33] Oh yeah the relay don’t show discord display names just base user [17:01:08] Why is your discord username bluemoon0332 anyways? [17:01:20] How's dmehus [17:01:23] I wanted BlueMoon, but it wasn't available [17:01:29] so I let Discord choose one for me [17:02:46] Orange_Star, oh, hey. Didn't know that was you :) [17:03:13] yep, I joined the Discord gang when I rejoined SRE [17:03:52] One of us, one of us, one of us! [17:03:53] RhinosF1, good thanks. Been super busy at work, with like 50% of the library acquisitions budget having to be purchased in the last two months, for a fiscal year that ends next week :P [17:03:56] you? [17:04:59] Orange_Star, oh, that's cool. Yeah, we did need more technically proficient and active members to join the SRE team [17:05:00] [[Category:History]] hmmm, spam/out of scope? [17:05:00] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Category:History [17:05:01]

[17:05:29] Fax [17:05:32] pixldev: yeah, it's eligible for multiple deletion reasons [17:05:39] Thought so [17:05:48] I’ll mark for del w/ TW [17:05:54] SGTM [17:06:33] Hm? [17:06:44] :DoneMH: [17:06:46] the audio equivalent of LGTM [17:06:56] Oh! [17:06:59] heh [17:07:05] it might be a dmehus invention :P [17:07:22] Thanks, dang it’s been a while since I’ve had to had an acronym explained to me xD [17:07:33] We wiki folk use a lot of them so [17:07:43] dmehus: been busy [17:07:44] Anyways <3 I love twinkle [17:07:44] pixldev: did you used to go by a different on-wiki username? The current iteration isn't immediately ringing any of my bells [17:07:55] Nope [17:08:00] oh ok [17:08:06] I’ve gone by pixl since I joined the internet lol [17:08:20] ah [17:08:21] I’m relatively new to Miraheze compared to some people [17:08:23] SGTM is definitely not a dougism [17:08:30] They are many but that isn't one [17:08:45] RhinosF1, oh ok, fair enough. Thanks! :) [17:09:11] Joined Jan 23 but stayed on my local wiki, August I joined discord, January/Feb I started being active on meta and now I’m a patroller lol [17:10:03] You are post Dmehus' messy end to his tenure as a steward [17:10:17] ([[User:PixDeVl]] on wiki) [17:10:17] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:PixDeVl [17:10:19]

[17:10:20] I can't say I was expecting this [17:10:20] Yup [17:10:25] I’ve just heard the rumors [17:10:44] ah [17:12:19] I'm sure me and Doug have differing views on his loss of rights [17:13:34] Out of curiosity, what made ya think that :ThinkerMH: [17:14:01] we IRC folks can't tell what you're replying to pixldev [17:14:02] dmehus: you might find this interesting, I am locked in a very long battle with my bank over GDPR / DPA 2018 Compliance [17:14:40] RhinosF1: oh, is that the one you mentioned to me a few months back? [17:14:53] dmehus: probably [17:15:02] My bank keep breaking the law [17:15:36] They've admitted to or been found to have breached their obligations in all instances they've responded too [17:15:38] [1/2] Orange_Star: Ah. Sorry. That was replying to [17:15:38] [2/2] > @pixldev did you used to go by a different on-wiki username? The current iteration isn't immediately ringing any of my bells [17:15:40] do you still have accounts with them, and how so? Did you check other relevant UK financial services legislation to see if it supercedes the DPA? [17:15:47] oh [17:15:57] But they keep breaking more every time they do anything [17:16:02] oh [17:16:06] dmehus: I still have accounts ye [17:16:16] And no, ICO are most powerful [17:16:30] ah [17:16:35] Wonder if it would be possible to modify the relay to support replying to relay messages. [17:16:52] IRC doesn't do replies [17:16:53] Well [17:17:02] IRCv3 kinda does [17:17:27] I mean when i reply to this message, it would say which IRC user sent the relayed message in replying to [17:17:44] it does say that [17:17:51] Guh [17:17:52] we just can't tell which message exactly [17:18:00] dmehus: it's been a fun battle so far [17:18:15] We're at like 7 breaches of data laws I think [17:18:16] Oh [17:18:22] I’m stoopid :xsob: [17:18:39] RhinosF1: yeah, I can imagine, a lot of back and forth, delays, a step forward, then a step back [17:18:53] They can't follow basic instructions which is getting amusing [17:18:54] is the bank a digital only bank? [17:19:01] Nope [17:19:05] High street bank [17:19:09] A fairly old one [17:19:33] They keep handing easy to prove breaches to me [17:19:34] We have Wise in Canada and they seem to think that UK identity verification laws supercede Canadian identity verification laws. I loath them with a passion [17:19:47] Which is compounding the issue [17:19:54] RhinosF1, oh [17:19:58] interesting [17:23:07] dmehus: The ICO are fairly education led but it's getting messy [17:23:50] I'm trying to prepare a case they've lied cause the way they've worded stuff is very generous towards them [17:24:06] This is why we bank with UK owned banks and not Spanish owned banks. [17:24:08] It's certainly not the whole truth and nothing but the truth [17:24:34] I may have a case on Monday for that [17:26:32] Ah the wonders of just, not having to deal with this in this stage of my life [17:26:35] When they respond to my last document request [17:26:56] Pixldev: I'm good with telling corporate world my opinion [17:27:07] I know my rights well [17:27:11] RhinosF1: ah, interesting [17:27:31] Tbf my mortgage is with the same bank and I've had no issues with them [17:27:51] OA: just don't ever want to change your mobile or address [17:28:01] Or break your profile [17:28:32] Well if i changed address id no longer need the mortgage so 😉 [17:30:24] Again I modified. I hope that my request will be approved considering that I added the topic [17:31:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221149250751299644/Screenshot_20240323-193049_Chrome.jpg?ex=661186dd&is=65ff11dd&hm=b5b98ecd2d1115d3b3e984e7f55c5ecf24c3a533527dd16147aadb806c02f861& [17:31:22] [1/2] Coming soon [17:31:22] [2/2] The fictional Wikipedia in Miraheze [17:36:31] [1/2] Not like this. [17:36:31] [2/2] And shouting in your messages doesn't help [17:36:35] oh, dmehus is here? [17:37:52] Doug’s back [17:41:56] I have commented on your request, and it is still declined. Please do not write in all capital letters. [17:42:21] Offf, 😕 [17:42:58] hi agentsai :) [18:04:53] You might want to have a look at Sparkle, it's more QoL toys for those who already like Twinkle [18:06:48] I need to install RW/UV on a test wiki and play with it. [18:08:47] Noted, link? [18:09:03] [[wp:sparkle]] [18:09:03] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/wp:sparkle [18:09:04]

[18:09:07] I’ve heard of it but we don’t get enough Vandalism on meta to bother installing [18:09:52] Installing on meta may be a pain [18:10:08] [1/2] 50$ for steam [steamcommunity.com/gift/758474483](https://u.to/gDeDIA ) [18:10:09] [2/2] @everyone [18:10:18] Oh dear... [18:10:21] i'll pass [18:10:27] nah, I'm good [18:11:28] {{Humor}} Why are all the discord moderators banning all the nice people giving us free stuff? [18:11:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Humor [18:11:29]

[18:13:14] Anyway, whenever Wikipedians make something new I always get it for myself to take apart and see how it works, maybe I can learn from them. I been looking at developing a AWB/Huggle sorta thing that uses imgui but I have more important things to do with my time, maybe some day. [18:16:53] not scientificly possible [18:17:39] In a perfect world every gui would be imgui but as of now that is confined to one's dreams. [18:19:58] wats imgui [18:22:35] huh? [18:24:44] doug has paid us a visit it seems [18:24:58] where at [18:25:07] IRC [18:25:20] oop where [18:25:22] missed it [18:25:52] oh [18:26:06] HOLY SHIT first user created from my wiki!!!!!!! [18:26:13] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221163105447579668/2024-03-23_21_25_55.png?ex=661193c4&is=65ff1ec4&hm=a12f8f32a9538915c4d261bcb128d6af6c4765bc51625566214394f9d986470b& [18:26:26] nice nice [18:26:39] it's been 2+ years lol [18:27:27] wdym? [18:28:46] actual account creation, not CA attach [18:28:51] actually scratch that [18:29:01] I remebered and checked this is not the first account [18:29:08] oh lmao [18:29:33] first one was the music journalist who asked me to write something for his book but haven't used that in the end 🥲 [18:30:04] the book is coming out soon too, eh [18:33:12] no lol [18:33:16] it's September 2024 [18:33:20] bruh [18:34:31] also they guy I greeted on Meta checked in too, but yeah, still ignored me lol [18:56:26] UI framework that is used for a lot of random things [18:58:21] Hi dmehus [19:18:34] Huh? [19:21:09] hey BrandonWM [19:21:14] hey Hypercane :) [19:21:45] Oh hi dmehus [19:21:49] long time no see [19:22:13] Actually dmehus, stay there if you can, I want to message you privately about something. If you don't mind anyways! [19:22:15]