[00:10:55] How's everything going today? Much faster without everyone DDoSing me, it makes me slow [00:12:28] editing my wiki while watching castlevania >>>>>>>> [00:12:39] i swear this show gives me motivation [00:25:31] for a sec I read this as “without me ddosing” [00:25:51] also yesterday we get miraheze the discord account and now we get wikitide!1!1!1 [00:26:43] I wouldn't DDoS myself, obviously. [00:27:00] Goooooood [00:27:02] Fiberstate wouldn't like it. [00:32:05] Rebranding is important, you know. [01:35:09] Wonder when we're gonna get a ShoutWiki Discord account here [01:50:20] If you shout loud enough at your IRC client, you might get that. [02:04:29] I'm surprised ShoutWiki doesn't have a Discord [02:04:39] then again, they're a few years late to a lot of things [02:04:43] like MediaWiki versions [02:04:46] or SSL [02:08:01] Rebrand when??? [02:26:10] yet they're ahead of the curve in many things compared to MH [02:26:27] like being able to chose a skin when creating a wiki—when that worked, I guess. [02:51:51] The tech exists, it's implemented in WikiForge. We just have to backport it [02:51:55] Patches welcome \;) [03:01:43] Doesn't most tech start on Wikitech/en.wiki and then spread down to other wiki projects? [03:10:08] Yes, WMF-onee-sama helps me out a lot, but I can do things for myself too! I'm almost 9 years old now. [03:16:47] Wikipedia's old enough to go to the local pub and order a pint of "Citation Needed" on draft, come on, the expectations are low [03:28:09] 😄 [03:32:43] last time I saw that was for selecting default extensions, not themes? [03:32:54] If someone reported this to Discord saying you're under 13 they'd 100% take it completely seriously and ban you [03:38:11] Probably but my account is 8 years old. [03:40:20] It's an older account than everyone else in this chat. [03:59:34] 👀 [03:59:51] My account is older by a little over a month! [04:05:52] boomers [04:07:55] I'm not that old 😛 But I suppose in the context of my discord account age I'll accept it. [04:11:20] heh yes, I meant your Discord account is a boomer, not you 😆 [05:35:05] Hey guys, is there a way to stop my folders from getting inaccessible inside the drives? [05:40:57] <.labster, replying to therealprogressbar95> Can you post a link to the wiki page where you're seeing this problem? [05:42:12] what wikipage? [05:42:21] y'know what, nvm [05:46:28] You are in a Discord server for a wikifarm [05:46:34] If you ask about a problem, people assume it's related to a wiki [05:46:59] "stop my folders from getting inaccessible inside the drives" this isn't the right place to receive assistance with this if it's not a wiki-related issue [06:05:03] ohhh [08:52:33] Doesn't really start on en.wiki as much, lots of the newer tech enwiki are much more reluctant to implement. Enwiki has a lot of sway over what's get developed but many things start at much smaller wikis that are friendlier. [09:21:36] <.labster> I finally made a better user page about me: https://allthetropes.org/wiki/User:Labster [09:28:57] https://sites.google.com/a/brentlaabs.com/sites/system/errors/ProxiedWebspaceNotFound?host=www.brentlaabs.com&webspace=main is broken [09:30:20] <.labster> Yeah, I know. That's because I don't want to pay for Google Sites. I had the grandfathered free plan, which they got rid of [09:30:27] Oh [09:30:54] <.labster> Probably should just throw something, anything, on Github. [09:31:19] Ye rhinosf1.com is github [09:32:47] Well it could be [09:32:55] But the custom domain is done through cf [11:16:38] oop forgot #bots [13:49:06] [1/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221455756415729744/image.png?ex=6612a451&is=66002f51&hm=522048ca7ce7a5d5d0cc4768d00ce4270f1d8dac1fc386ac744d0d29362d7057& [13:49:06] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221455756671320195/image.png?ex=6612a451&is=66002f51&hm=78a9f14d5c461e14b01b46252275e85affc22f0eadb8090676007df7cc5dc154& [13:49:07] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221455757023645757/image.png?ex=6612a452&is=66002f52&hm=890244a3554197a8a9ffd1bd638b9112c02e8dc938b57d90408030b31d62708b& [13:49:22] :ThinkingHardMH: [13:53:47] And we wonder why Miraheze gets a bad rap 💀 [14:16:30] isn't the same person who keeps going back and forth on meta? [14:17:50] Ding ding ding ten billion points for you [15:09:11] 💀 [15:30:04] [1/2] I just found out that they was blocked by Agent on Meta. [15:30:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221481164640878702/946772777359249408.png?ex=6612bbfb&is=660046fb&hm=d4b8b46d88c32af695bc3bc93ddd2aef0bad1bfc6da240c4ebabbc36f0be7c23& [15:34:47] @.labster, Google Sites is still free with custom domains from the looks of it. Otherwise, you could always use Google Firebase Hosting, DigitalOcean App Platform, GitHub Pages, or Cloudflare Pages, all of which offer free hosting for static websites [16:58:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221503373396672522/8imm2l.jpg?ex=6612d0aa&is=66005baa&hm=12704766f37acd29e27ebdf851d4d07386686e535deb51dfefab0204938d4452& [17:03:53] You do have a few spelling mistakes though 😉 [17:04:10] Sssshhhhhhh don’t argue with the chair [17:04:50] https://tenor.com/view/boggins-boggins-gaming-chair-gif-25997145 [17:12:11] Hey discord badmins, do we wanna maybe update the channel list on https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/615786265593249792/1095888643022913536? [17:22:04] Is it wrong I’m internally celebrating? https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1072042278580928532/1221481169200087105 [19:40:44] [1/3] I finally made some placeholder images for sagan 4 as part of a planned change to various infoboxes to make it easier to track missing images (unrelated to the failed import issues we're having right now - some images have simply always been missing!) [19:40:44] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221544248269078619/Sagan_4_placeholder_globe_variant.png?ex=6612f6bb&is=660081bb&hm=18ea604a726b86c90c32b92d5c96d9f0aa7abafb7938af00e63c3cd506fb29a3& [19:40:45] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221544248617472160/sagan_4_placeholder_cell.png?ex=6612f6bc&is=660081bc&hm=e6f48490f103750e0fb8339d069853e392efa3a0c9f3b162af13fb708b42e9ca& [19:47:51] <.labster, replying to pixldev> I wanna, I just don't know how to do it, it won't let me edit the message [19:54:48] I’ll look to see if it’s possible to edit webhook messages [19:54:57] may have to delete and repost [19:59:10] [1/2] meanwhile... [19:59:10] [2/2] Fandom 🤝 Miraheze 🤝 wiki.gg [19:59:38] Can you see if a bot owns the webhook in that channel? [20:00:06] [1/2] > The very first wiki that I was involved with was Davis Wiki, about my college town. I started editing wikis on November 14, 2004. [20:00:06] [2/2] man, I feel young [20:00:08] I was like 1.5 years when that happened lol [20:00:26] <.labster> If it's a consolation I'm going to die decades before you [20:00:51] I almost forget that wiki editors, especially meta wiki communities, have an older average age [20:01:13] <.labster> Actually no, I'm one of the oldest people involved in Miraheze [20:01:36] I see [20:01:49] but I do forget that people are on average 25-30 years old :P [20:06:26] does anyone use that pneumonic my dear cat loves xtra vitamins indeed [20:06:31] to remember the order of roman numerals [20:06:35] or is that just me [20:08:07] which equates to M(1000) D(500) C(100) L(50) X(10) V(5) I(1) and then if you have a number that is like DCLXII you can just add them up because they're in decending order but if it was DCLIIX you would do D+C+L X-(I+I) [20:08:16] I was scattered as atoms across the world [20:08:18] just thought id teach some insightful knowledge that I just used [20:19:50] That person has been having some moments on Reddit yeah [20:20:57] Lol [20:21:02] meta [20:21:05] not reddit [20:21:10] man my brain is not working [20:21:29] I read reddit for a sec [20:21:37] ah [20:21:38] lol [20:21:41] Lol yeah [20:21:47] Was a brain fart [20:21:48] Yeah actually they were blocked [20:21:54] Indeed [20:21:54] one week [20:21:58] Oh really [20:22:05] I thought they were blocked on Fandom only [20:22:08] Interesting [20:22:12] Nope [20:22:14] today from meta [20:22:39] https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1072370273485070387/1221481171515347038 [20:23:50] Not to be incivil but, honestly, a part of me is saying Good Riddences [20:24:20] Interesting [20:25:58] Think they'll change when they come back? Well, if they come back. May just say fuck Miraheze and bounce [20:26:01] ? [20:32:29] <.labster> I don't understand what the logic is behind declaring a user incompetent and then letting the block expire in one week. Will they suddenly become competent in that time? [20:32:49] 04Hm,04 [20:33:52] MacFan4000: ? [20:33:57] A warning prehaps? [20:34:27] @.labster, that may be the case on other wikis, but it's been convention on Miraheze to assume good faith and that CIR users can be given made competent. Sometimes it requires a longer or indefinite block if the warnings persist. Sometimes it requires a willing mentor [20:34:37] Honestly you make a good point but I still don't agree with just banishing for like a month or smt [20:34:50] Issue here primarily seems to be related to language [20:35:09] I would either do the month if cir is invoked or use less strong language for something shorter and issue guidance either way [20:35:22] a less strong phrasing probably would have been best [20:35:37] dmehus: not to be rude, but good damned luck finding someone willing to mentor them :/ [20:36:00] yeah, mentoring would be hopeful in this case [20:36:12] raidarr, I agree on the less strong phrasing, a better articulated warning, paired with a Google Translate version as well, and perhaps a longer block from mainspace, where the problem was primarily occurring [20:36:32] lol [20:36:43] and instruction to use {{helpme}} on their user talk if they have a question [20:36:43] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:helpme [20:36:45] I've never been terribly fond of space blocks [20:36:57] psh :p [20:37:07] @raidarr 'hopeful' is a *hopeful* way of looking at it [20:37:22] it is tbh [20:37:31] I don't know when I took on an optimistic edge [20:41:25] RhinosF1: I only modified the block [20:41:34] It was agent who decided on one week [20:43:02] dmehus: no offence but you don't have a clue what convention is [20:43:28] A whole term has been coined to describe stuff you claim to be convention that's pure your invention [20:44:31] I can't remember the last time I saw {{helpme}} used. Or any time I've seen it used tbf [20:44:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:helpme [20:44:56] I’ve never seen it used ever [20:44:59] The template doesn't exist [20:45:21] There is currently no text in this page. You can search for this page title in other pages, search the related logs, or create this page. [20:45:35] [[Template:Help me]] exists on meta [20:45:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Help_me [20:45:42] [1/2] I don't disagree but we've been trying to mentor them and they've still been disruptive [20:45:42] [2/2] I spent an hour replying to their incoherent messages on BrandonWM's talk page [20:46:03] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Help_me [20:46:42] I mean hopeful in the sense of that's dreaming a bit, and not in a truly optimistic way [20:46:53] It has been used - https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:WhatLinksHere/Template:Help_me-helped [20:47:06] Oh I see [20:49:32] 35 times [20:49:38] More then I expected tbh [20:49:39] still [20:54:03] [1/2] Does anyone else think they might interpret that as they should publicize their block [20:54:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221562698714845386/Screenshot_20240324-135221.png?ex=661307ea&is=660092ea&hm=9c3b85b7ba0b16810db59972e4b6a5afc92da510e525b8f437a6a8b8ea8403a5& [20:55:01] I think they'll interpret it into what ever the hell they want frankly [22:48:59] https://infosec.exchange/@briankrebs/112151715700245335 [22:49:51] [1/2] If you have an Apple device and it ask you to reset Apple ID, press DONT ALLOW. [22:49:52] [2/2] Otherwise you will be hacked. [22:50:55] And because this pop-up is system type, you can't disable that and only has 2 buttons [22:53:50] As a general convention, if a account asks if you want to reset or disable something for no good given reason and you didn't do anything to prompt it, thats a red flag and a half [22:54:52] this is why we have to kill OTPs and push notifications and make FIDO2 the standard [22:56:11] I just realized most of Apple ID pop-ups are unable to be ignored [22:56:24] Glad I'm using Android these days [23:07:18] I love my YubiKey, best ting I never brogt [23:07:59] same here [23:09:22] I got it for my ProtonMail, now I use as 2FA on many other sites [23:36:06] Very late but this also assumes the user wishes to be mentored in the first place [23:36:25] If they're unwilling to learn/change, well, our reach expires at some point [23:44:22] Also the “language barrier” [23:44:59] Yes [23:45:05] I mean we have been told their Chinese isn't much better then their English [23:45:07] It's a web of complexity [23:46:01] Unfortunately [23:46:20] I sincerely this knocks some sense into them [23:46:35] I don't feel like dealing with them [23:52:27] I am hopeful but am not optimistic on the current outlook [23:53:49] Don't worry I'm neither [23:54:11] Good night all [23:54:15] Have fun [23:54:27] [1/2] 💤 [23:54:27] [2/2] 🛌 [23:56:23] Night RO