[00:23:45] [1/2] Although it may not be very polite, I think they is a person who lacks the awareness to use common sense or lacks common sense. Of course, this may be caused by various subjective and objective factors. After all, users are not born understanding what disruptive editing is, etc. They once translated the help page for disruptive editing in the Fandom ZH Commu [00:23:45] [2/2] nity Central (although he didn't finish translating before he was blocked). I am pleased to see their progress in being willing to understand these things, but they still made quite a few disruptive edits later on. [00:45:19] And @koreirose, can you surround the syntax for insertion of the template pages you used in the Wikipedia content you quoted on Gongxiang01's talk page with `` tags? Otherwise, their talk page will become a "deprecated essay page", lol. [00:47:44] That's a, unique, insult. [01:30:52] I'll fix it soon [03:28:26] <.labster> is anyone here an admin on dev.miraheze? [03:29:04] <.labster> And if so, how much would you hate it if I imported a Lua-based template from Wikipedia? [03:30:31] <.labster> I've mostly figured out that it's not the WP templates themselves that are bad, but WP template /doc pages, which include ambox, which apparently includes the whole world [03:40:44] its admin doesn't hang even in irc [03:41:26] I mean, not all Lua templates are bad, but maybe you can exclude Documentation? [03:41:37] somehow [03:56:09] @.labster https://dev.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Developers_Wiki:Administrators [03:56:22] looks like recep-tion/ag-ent/zp-pix [03:57:00] (and ppp-ery) [03:58:13] <.labster> Documentation is fine itself, I just can't recursively grab stuff in an export. Name specific pages you want, and it works. [04:00:35] <.labster> [1/16] Basically for this thread https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/1219463264115757076 , I want this set of pages: [04:00:36] <.labster> [2/16] ```Template:Tree chart [04:00:36] <.labster> [3/16] Template:Tree chart/start [04:00:36] <.labster> [4/16] Template:Tree chart/end [04:00:37] <.labster> [5/16] Template:Chart top [04:00:38] <.labster> [6/16] Template:Chart bottom [04:00:38] <.labster> [7/16] Module:Tree chart [04:00:38] <.labster> [8/16] Module:Tree_chart/data [04:00:38] <.labster> [9/16] Template:Tree chart/doc [04:00:38] <.labster> [10/16] Template:Tree chart/start/doc [04:00:38] <.labster> [11/16] Template:Tree chart/end/doc [04:00:39] <.labster> [12/16] Template:Chart top/doc [04:00:39] <.labster> [13/16] Template:Chart bottom/doc [04:00:40] <.labster> [14/16] Module:Tree chart/doc [04:00:40] <.labster> [15/16] Module:Arguments [04:00:41] <.labster> [16/16] Module:Arguments/doc``` [04:01:42] <.labster> There are pre-Lua versions around, but I'm not convinced that they're better -- they're probably worse. [04:17:21] Go for it i guess [04:44:36] <.labster, replying to zppix> Can you give me importer? Or admin? [04:48:23] Yeah [04:49:15] Done [04:51:29] <.labster> arigatou gozaimasu [04:51:35] <.labster> thanks much [18:26:53] @notaracham wdym not claimed https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/786615849921675294/1221693119477841961 [18:36:42] As in, no volunteer said that they were in ownership of that account [18:37:34] The impression I got is it was someone who chose the name independently of knowing we exist then learning they share a name with a wiki host [18:37:37] But yeah [18:39:16] Wasn't a ton to go on, but renames are possible + they joined at same time as DDoS attempts, so better safe than... whatever that was. [18:39:34] Happy to revisit ban if new info comes to light, though. [18:40:00] Oh yeah that reminds me [18:40:50] Was talking a while ago with BWM bout using dyno for a ban appeal system idk if it was brought up in mod chat [18:41:18] (An external link that sends a message to the server for review, ie recovered account after a hack or other appeal) [18:41:43] yep, dependent on server admin implementation/making sure it won't be a vector for spam, but very much under consideration [18:42:06] Gucci [18:42:18] Lemme see if there’s a way to solve the possible spam issue [18:42:54] Also the list in #info need updating as an aside [18:43:30] What are you asking for to be updated, specifically? [18:45:17] [1/3] How it started vs. How it’s going [18:45:18] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221892678086819870/IMG_2331.png?ex=66143b3c&is=6601c63c&hm=28f3bc6ce717bc87d054aec84353c8433d40a5d1f39a37d85ce1bc51453d0069& [18:45:18] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221892678493405264/IMG_2332.png?ex=66143b3c&is=6601c63c&hm=a5fa982def8ef91925be8a785db1e1b084d824238615e5e122b9cd16c89f345f& [18:45:31] Oh I’m a doof- the channel list [18:45:42] I forgot to include the main piece of info:p [18:45:51] The most obvious is the channel list, which has changed quite a bit (BTW I think that #cvt should be moved to the "Support" category as it serves as the support channel for requesting CVT action) [18:45:52] Ie no more interwiki and #interwiki-feed [18:47:14] Way to go, and thanks for being a good maintainer of our shared resources - requesting deletion vs letting a project abandon on its own. Every little bit helps. 🙂 [18:48:31] Apparently you either enforce one submission per user or a cooldown [18:48:42] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221893540594843749/image0.jpg?ex=66143c09&is=6601c709&hm=a070ef22d7678bfc55781fa10974045beddaf25dd51b6bd128ad1183dbe8f852& [18:49:24] And I’m assuming only punished accounts can submit [18:49:50] Great scouting ahead, appreciated. [18:50:01] Only server admins have the authority to take such actions (mods don’t have Manage Server) [18:50:20] 💯 [18:50:29] No worries. I have it set up on my own guild but it’s so inactive never been used :p [18:50:54] Actually not sure [18:51:15] Would someone mind trying just to be sure? https://dyno.gg/form/e8ca0d83 [18:51:33] May be a source of spam depending on how many accounts they have [18:51:49] I can submit but as server owner I don’t trust it [18:51:59] More variables [19:55:03] <.labster> [1/2] Create more articles, we need to pay off the national wikipage deficit [19:55:03] <.labster> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1221910238664462550/image.png?ex=66144b96&is=6601d696&hm=69b34f789feb7cdee236833e7e7ecd930e7267274da928d7d17c202355050584& [19:56:00] Still more manageable then the US one [19:58:40] Think the edit count is accurate? [19:59:34] <.labster> I think that the number has wrapped around back into positive [20:08:29] This confused me so much at first glance [20:44:04] one of my favorite things to do when i’m bored is look through random requests on special:requestwikiqueue 😭😭😭 [20:45:35] You're waiting for request approval ? 😄 [20:49:11] Define independent [20:50:11] self hosted? [20:50:22] Would the thousands of Miraheze wikis be considered independent? They're certainly very autonomous but not fully independent [20:50:36] no IMO [20:50:39] like abxy? [20:50:53] yeah, they're not independent fully [20:51:15] independent fully would mean they can set their own legal policies and such [20:51:31] autonomous is what they are because we won't meddle in their affairs unless a brawl happens [20:51:32] I just stumbled on self hosted which is supposed be to be indie wiki for undertale and deltarune but it's completely blank atm and seems to have only person behind it [20:51:52] but by that definition, most wikis on farms are not independent [20:51:54] If that's the case, then minecraft.wiki is not purely independent [20:52:04] Cuz it's hosted by Weird Gloop [20:52:07] yeah [20:52:14] I guess fully independent would be self-hosted [20:52:19] Yeah [20:52:42] Runescape Wikis aren't technically independent either [20:53:04] Unless if Weird Gloop hosted them themselves [20:53:20] weird gloop are same people behind RuneScape wikis [20:53:24] it's like [20:53:31] they created company as legal thingy [20:53:37] I see [20:53:39] to support wikis? [20:53:51] and then mcw migration happened [20:53:54] Basically a mini Miraheze lol [20:53:59] Have fun being not-bored 😉 [20:54:19] I think theoretically they would be because of what Legroom said above [20:54:29] so RS wiki is indepedent but MCW is not [20:54:52] At first glance I thought you were writing Theocratically 😉 [20:55:14] haha yeah, I always get nervous I'll accidentally summon the theocracy lol [20:58:53] bulbagarden started kinda like that too, I believe [20:59:07] I see [20:59:08] but it's a network of different sites, bot just wikis [20:59:24] Yeah [21:06:01] Time to import enwiki a few times [21:17:09] took a final tour of a closing minecraft server i used to play [21:17:10] g o d [21:17:19] and seeing the logs [21:17:32] last interacted 400 days ago [22:35:36] Ohh if u accepted my request tyy [22:36:01] one thing i hate abt opening a new wiki is adding all the modules and templates and extensions [22:41:45] Yeah, I was thinking why you didn't just convert your wiki you deleted into the new one and then ask the stewards to rename it? [22:42:02] Would have saved you so much work [23:07:59] [1/2] > Maximum file size: 4 GB (your chosen file from a valid, publicly accessible URL) [23:07:59] [2/2] what on earth lol [23:33:12] i think i’m just going to do that now [23:33:48] cause i have another one that i can use ;-; [23:35:01] Cause aim having so issue [23:36:29] M english right now [23:36:35] Not giving [23:41:01] Maybe wait for tomorrow then 😉