[00:27:21] ||we are|| ||hidden talking|| ||right now|| [00:28:56] ||even IRC|| ||users can|| ||hidden talk|| ||yeah|| [00:33:29] ||hidden talking|| ||is so|| ||fun|| [00:34:21] ||:DoneMH:|| ||is so|| ||cool|| [00:36:04] ||why not|| ||invite users|| ||to hidden talking?|| [00:36:34] ||include also|| ||IRC users!|| [00:37:51] why tf i'm talking to myself [00:38:47] why tf i'm talking to myself [00:40:27] Discord pulled a massive April Fools prank lmao [00:57:29] why I got kicked out of discord? [00:59:55] "hate speech" apparently [01:00:59] What I did? [01:01:06] I don't know [01:01:31] `^ Discriminatory comments against users, hate speech` [01:02:09] Emiliano: message inbound on Discord shortly [01:03:09] [1/2] Oh man... 3am again... I'm off to bed [01:03:09] [2/2] 💤 [01:03:30] bye bye [06:33:13] Anyone experienced in translation on Meta think this is a good idea? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta:Administrators%27_noticeboard#Configuration_request_-_$wgTranslateDisabledTargetLanguages [06:33:17] not entirely sure what to make of it [07:26:44] zh-cn, zh-mo, zh-my, zh-Hans would largely be the same as each other [07:27:01] and this would prevent duplicated effort [07:30:26] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1224984342078554123/image0.jpg?ex=661f7a92&is=660d0592&hm=2a3095663a1b8f4bac70b588a4157eaadd4328cd7715d2cf9a3d9642fc55f6ba& [07:30:41] those that are highlighted together would be the same [07:32:00] [1/5] in order, those are: [07:32:00] [2/5] > zh [07:32:01] [3/5] > zh-cn zh-Hans [07:32:01] [4/5] > zh-Hant zh-tw [07:32:01] [5/5] > zh-hk [07:32:37] although.. zh is the most complete one [07:56:23] <.labster> Hey everyone, what would you consider to be the best wikis hosted on Miraheze? [07:57:57] Meta [08:04:34] :ThinkingHardMH: [08:07:59] what do we mean exactly by best [08:08:29] Rain world wiki has extensive modding [08:08:36] the amount of articles, how community and admins manage it etc [08:08:41] Critical Roll has lots of pages [08:10:00] Rain World is what people tend to think when Miraheze is mentioned if not reception wikis [08:10:07] yeah, it's a good wiki [08:10:10] It’s the main one I remember [08:24:27] <.labster, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Basically wikis I could brag about at a Mediawiki Conference. [08:25:25] <.labster> Rosetta Code is the most obvious one to me. [08:26:11] <.labster> Basically quality, cultural impact, officialness, educational value. [08:26:24] oh well [08:26:55] i dunno then [08:27:11] Have you ever been to one? [08:27:27] <.labster> Nope. I've been to other programming conferences. [08:29:33] hay, maybe the one about mythical creatures [08:29:38] it's pretty old and big [08:29:47] I forgot its name tho [08:29:55] and it's in Spanish [08:30:37] I’ve been to one big issue local Wikipedia event and I think once to a night event by my local WM chapter [08:31:36] and of the recent wikis is about toki pona [08:32:06] <.labster> I did like the Toki Pona wiki [08:32:38] sona pona [08:33:04] also don't forget Indonesian Wikipedia lil [08:33:11] <.labster> This isn't a Wikipedia event, it's a Mediawiki event. Crowd will be mostly developers. It's in Portland, so Ward is giving the keynote. [08:33:16] and that one NATO wiki [08:33:25] ah, so like [08:33:38] tech side is priority? [08:34:30] <.labster> Yeah, I have to admit throwing up a NATO logo in the slides will be pretty cool [08:34:32] Me who live on east coast :( [08:34:53] <.labster> I'm on the west coast, I still am flying. [08:34:53] I wanna meet the world famous James Hare [08:37:03] isn't Create/ManageWiki the biggest thing to come out of Mira? [08:37:52] Technological wise? [08:37:58] Very possible [08:59:07] <.labster> Unfortunately I'm that well equipped to talk about CW/MW. [09:08:30] [1/2] > https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1218511889609527328 [09:08:30] [2/2] For me, it's a technical problem, so I can't determine whether this is a good choice😩. [09:17:17] rain world wiki [09:17:19] pizza tower wiki [09:17:26] lethal company wiki [09:17:28] veloren wiki [09:18:01] aether gazer wiki [09:18:17] brave nine wiki [09:20:15] farthest frontier wiki [09:22:52] <.labster> I wonder what all of those wikis are about. Like how can you tower a pizza? Pizzas are flat. [09:23:11] <.labster> So like yeah I'm kind of old, right? [09:23:32] https://pizzatower.miraheze.org/wiki/Pizza_Tower_(Video_Game) [09:23:43] this game came out last year [09:28:21] all these wikis are fan wikis [09:33:44] sadly PT gained an infamous rep because of half of its audience are literal children w/ very immature sense of humour which is very evident on fandom wiki of all things and we at Mira are still dealing w/ its legacy garbage in files [09:36:02] but I can vouch that MH editors and admins are very hard working and do their best to make a really good wiki, and I'm gonna lie if I won't say it's the funkiest wiki on miraheze in visual department [09:37:17] Same here, and I only joined Miraheze in November so I haven't seen too much yet. [09:37:32] But what the best wiki's are is subjective [09:38:11] [1/2] yeah [09:38:12] [2/2] like the criteria Lab has given are very much "serious and good" [09:38:33] <.labster> A few can be fun too [09:39:17] PTW is only missing some kind of theming feature lol [09:39:45] Theme extension is basically Vector only, and my request for Themes (by wiki.gg) was declined [09:40:19] https://criticalrole.miraheze.org/wiki/Critical_Role_wiki:Manual_of_Style [09:40:46] This wiki has a great set-up with a MOS and good rules set [09:41:36] I could probably bring SPcodex which is very Cargo dependent but they migrated to independence in June lol [09:43:09] <.labster> I was definitely going to consider the Critical Role wiki. I wonder if I should throw 1d6chan up there too. [09:44:05] <.labster> I guess LGBTQIA is in the process of moving to Mywikis? [09:45:58] I think there are small wiki's that are used by institutions for organisational structures. Perhaps one of those could be considered. [09:46:46] Not everything has to be big, but just good used [09:46:48] to this day? [09:47:02] <.labster> That's what the sitenotice says, kinda. [09:47:32] <.labster> actually, mentioning mywikis, look at their front page: https://www.mywikis.com/ I'm sure all of those university logos are just one or two departments using the service, but it looks impressive. [09:48:41] the wikis showcase is always impressive [09:49:57] https://k6ka.miraheze.org/ [09:50:10] mywikis compares itself to miraheze but somehow not fandom lol [09:50:57] University of Copenhagen is in Denmark. [09:51:36] It's a well known university here. But could indeed be just one or two departments [10:11:03] > We're run by professionals. Miraheze is ran by unpaid volunteers from their community. [10:11:17] Like that makes a difference? [10:11:37] > Our software engineers have degrees in computer science from the top computer science universities in the world [10:11:57] Ive never seen a mediawiki extension or git commit to mediawiki from anyone at mywikis [10:13:13] <.labster> It makes a difference if you're expecting support that you paid for. [10:14:02] Maybe yeah [10:14:19] Why is the visual editor not available on the cheapest plan. That's a gimmick [10:14:52] this reminded me of tupka lol [10:14:58] <.labster> CS degrees are kind of meaningless for running a hosting company, though. [10:17:11] Yeah, a software development degree might be more handy [10:17:28] (Pretty sure they're not one in the same? Correct me if I'm wrong) [10:17:36] They're not the same in the UK anyway [10:18:13] both LGBTQIA seem to be active [10:18:27] stange [10:18:38] maybe ask admin [10:18:51] and both are behind fandom, ofc [10:19:38] first page results on google gives you two Miraheze wikis even [10:21:49] hm, did Nonbinary Wiki went indie? [10:22:02] was amongst most well known on Mira [11:28:36] @mx.lilasekhmet I have people try scam with AI crud [11:28:46] ok [11:29:03] I pay for lore to be written, but many, many are scammers [11:29:09] sorry, what does this have to do with grammarly and using it to check english wiki pages when you aren't a native english speaker? [11:30:28] I do scan wiki pages for AI due to how my wiki is run. And some people may wish to check an wiki for AI, hence Grammarly [11:30:56] Ah, so, you're saying you don't like people using grammarly on your wiki, because it makes harder to check for AI-written pages? [11:31:02] Yes. [11:31:06] Ah, that makes sense [11:31:30] It does work well for non native english speakers BUT I kinda regrat Grammarly fixing my wiki [11:32:24] What wiki do you run? [11:32:32] A inderpendant worldbuilding wiki [11:32:45] Which wiki though? [11:32:59] taerel.com [11:33:03] cool [11:33:19] Also, Google Translate also false flags as AI to dectors [11:37:41] to be fair with both google and grammarly, both are indeed curated by 'robots' [11:38:00] detecting if it's a robot going off something useful or making it up all from scratch is a tall order [11:38:28] I prefer to play it safe regrading AI made or AI altered content [11:38:57] well if you have an article you suspect is pure ai gobblygook you can shoot it to me [11:39:05] I've spent way too much time dealing with ai generated spam [11:40:11] Oh, AI gen spam is a problem now? [11:40:59] oh it's the next frontier of spam [11:41:07] I did revert some spam on Our Darker Purpose wiki on FANDOM, some probly AI made spam [11:41:18] a common track on forums for example is to just ai generate innocuous posts which may or may not properly relate to whatever threads they necro [11:41:33] How much spam was there? [11:41:55] well the spam I deal with is on a place where I have no ability to implement better measures so you could say I get a consistent front line of what's new [11:44:13] Some are even requesting wiki's just for the sake of AI filling it up with stories. 😄 [11:44:30] I have had 2 so far [11:44:35] oh yeah, we've gotten a handful of ai wiki requests so far [11:44:46] probably people who just shoveled the effort in chatgpt [11:44:59] haven't had the pleasure to knock one down simply because it failed to use the process properly [11:46:10] I was lucky that the requesters were to lazy with puting a nice description together. That would be the place where I would use AI atleast 😄 [11:47:21] Where is that? [11:47:34] an aging decrepid total war forum [11:49:03] I see a lot of misplaced hire me spam and spam/scams on muliple freelancing Discords I am on and on the DevintArt forums [13:08:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1225069336658706634/Screenshot_20240401_233701.jpg?ex=661fc9ba&is=660d54ba&hm=c32087ae7d76118b31f84b0cc2c4ccfc7bc262cb49b4e59bd9152672758417a0& [13:08:16] too expensive [13:08:54] the price is 50% more than two months ago [14:22:55] https://youtube.com/watch?v=tF_4kmMgKoQ [14:35:29] [1/3] I was not logged in at this time [14:35:29] [2/3] ?? [14:35:29] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1225091307551199384/image.png?ex=661fde30&is=660d6930&hm=2d7f22550b3d1890f6461fb5d54b141cf61c48f105b0f9fad0fb2d1bdba86bcd& [14:35:53] That's me [14:36:05] I'm manually running the rename job to clear the pending renames [14:36:24] It does it under your username as the Steward that started the global rename [14:36:36] oh I see [14:39:14] [1/2] @squidlz idk if it's your jam but it's like feelgood/chill track for me [14:39:14] [2/2] https://youtube.com/watch?v=IzRKy-0vfIE [14:39:40] of fuck I'm sorry man, wrong ping [14:39:56] @neoqwerty [14:44:59] HECK YEAH WAKING UP TO ANOTHER EXCELLENT RECOMMENDATION FROM MY MUSIC DEALER [14:45:14] teehee [14:45:15] this one reminds me of the game OFF's soundtrack [14:45:58] Is this an analogy for drugs [14:47:42] who needs drugs when you have music [14:48:19] given the serotonin hits I get from good music it's definitely superior to drugs [14:48:19] also me: very interested in how drugs affected music scenes like rave etc [14:51:44] Yesss amazing game and soundtrack. [14:53:23] pepper steak 🤝 unexpectancy pt 2 [16:21:40] @agentisai @nibblypup clown gaaang [16:24:47] ah fine [16:24:58] lol [16:25:07] I had the clown thing for a while but turned it off because it was weird [16:32:10] Give on [16:32:19] honk [16:43:12] Ihad it for like 2 minutes and thought... Absolutely not for me 😄 [17:03:31] Look out for a new scam that's taking Discord by storm: https://youtu.be/Gc9E_de_jNU [17:04:07] @tali64 do you have a TL;DR for us? What kind of scam is it? [17:06:02] LLI, TL, DR [17:06:12] TL;DR there's an about:blank iframe 18+ scam going around; if right-clicking doesn't work in the window, that's a sign it's a scam [17:06:23] TRLE [17:10:50] ?? A bit more info? [17:12:07] some scammers sent you a link to a server with Onlyfans and teen (porn) leaks, if you get in the server they'll ask you to verify and scan a QR with your phone's Discord app, if you do that your account is compromised. [17:12:13] *send [17:13:52] [1/5] What Tali sent is a wake up call, we need to be careful here on Discord who we write to because it's probably a bad guy who will probably steal our accounts, we each may have the accounts for a long time, and others he would steal everything we have on him. [17:13:52] [2/5] Scams and Discord viruses have made the community sit for longer, Miraheze, we haven't been through this experience, but we hope it won't happen [17:13:52] [3/5] Anyway, here in Romania, scams are serious, there are certain people who send you messages with packages from unreal mail, crazy links that make us lose our data from it. [17:13:53] [4/5] The governmental cyber safety authority from us has a website called siguranta-online.ro, where it helps us with questionnaires and information to avoid scams, but its website is in Romanian. [17:13:53] [5/5] Protect your data and accounts, dear Miraheze members in conclusion [17:14:42] ~ The Romanian User of Miraheze, and admin in Megapedia [17:16:54] I will try even if I don't have a big role here on Miraheze to do a local campaign, here on the server against scams and certain questionnaires to help us. I'm really working on this campaign and hope to make it public here on the server soon [17:19:29] [1/3] a whole ass web design agency was hired to overhaul a web site [17:19:29] [2/3] and then you see this [17:19:29] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1225132578470629417/2024-04-03_20_18_37.png?ex=662004a0&is=660d8fa0&hm=39e9b43021102dc603ae8f62e51c853bdd5f3b5ad42438add331c6d6d7581972& [17:20:26] [1/2] very cool [17:20:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1225132722041651353/2024-04-03_20_19_54.png?ex=662004c2&is=660d8fc2&hm=f3b8fad4f33da6f4dedda35db6ec548b608c16fc6077cba67a7aa380d895bcb3& [17:20:26] [1/2] Coming soon. [17:20:26]