[03:42:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <zornthimmberglobber> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1245945541444112384/gnarpy-regretevator.mp4?ex=665a98b5&is=66594735&hm=464a69f29adec5f7cf92657a160d1436c6f2934b4581bc35e37c0bb13a9b00d0&
[04:27:27] <Emicraftnoob>	 why when i connect to the libera server it also joins the miraheze servers, oh my god I'm getting banned
[04:28:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Hammers, hammers, 1000 hammers. 🤣
[04:28:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> No worries, Emicraft, IRC is a weird one.
[05:20:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to pixldev> I swear there was one comment when I first saw it, now there's none lol
[09:09:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> yeah they probably deleted it
[09:09:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I see them do that a lot when they don't like what someone is saying (its usually the truth)
[09:16:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm paraphrasing but sounded like "how about y'all share your ads profits w/ editors" (unless I misunderstood)
[09:17:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it was late night for me lol
[09:20:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to originalauthority> They sold D&D for that
[09:22:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> But still, I think selling these properties would be better for everyone involved. Less things to manage, less need for too many ads, and thus better long term results.
[09:24:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> OR
[09:25:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Sell just the wiki platform itself, give it to another company, maybe give some wikis to wiki.gg or something, idk
[12:01:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <canyada> spent the afternoon putting [[dev:Template:Spoiler]] on the devwiki 🥳
[12:01:31] <wm-bot>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/dev:Template:Spoiler
[13:16:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to canyada> I'll check itout
[14:26:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu> Speaking of which, now that my midterms are over, I can focus on my Wiki Request Review
[15:12:51] <Emicraftnoob>	 and it joined again, *sighs*
[16:40:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> https://en.citizendium.org/ I went on the Internet and found this. Basically wikipedia where everyone uses real names
[16:40:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> No thanks!
[16:41:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> nope
[16:42:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> Oh, and you need to be invited to get an account.
[17:03:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to felenov> I believe it is very selective in who gets in. Existed already in the early 2010.
[17:04:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov, replying to rodejong> Correct. It's an old project and you have to know someone who is trusted IRL to get invited
[17:05:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> One of the things I do with my bandwidth is scan the internet for sites that use MediaWiki. Lots of cool things come up.
[17:05:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Yeah. They started as high quality wiki in stead of the hated stubs and nonsense what came on Wikipedia
[17:06:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> CZ has a lot of stubs too but I am not going to give my real name to the internet
[17:06:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> They wanted to provide a wiki on the level of Encyclopaedia Brittanica
[17:07:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to felenov> Must have lowered their standard then
[17:08:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> https://citizendium.org/wiki/Buchenwald_Concentration_Camp example of a stub
[17:09:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> They did make machine readable pages before Wikidata became useful so I think we know wehre WMF took the inspiration
[17:12:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to felenov> I particularly like their set up of documentation the sources, etc.
[17:12:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1246149383750287451/unknown?ex=665b568d&is=665a050d&hm=c886449045466abf80b07a6bc9e769def79b044b6cf602d18467206b0c32a7dc&
[17:14:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> It's not really a stub. As the page is divided over different tabs
[17:16:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> I like their navigation templates
[17:16:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1246150315976163338/09da010caf86664f.png?ex=665b576b&is=665a05eb&hm=a6501922f8f995f94951a4d022c3547a0de7c09970456915a638588bc7f7b38e&
[17:40:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to felenov> [1/3] They have a problem though...
[17:40:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to felenov> [2/3] "CZ is free. All written content is available under the Creative Commons-Attribution-ShareAlike 3.0 Unported license or any later. Written content that originated in part from Wikipedia is also available under Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike."
[17:40:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to felenov> [3/3] The logo at the bottom shows cc-by-nc-sa, which contradicts that statement
[17:43:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov, replying to rodejong> Give them some slack, the project is still technically in beta
[18:00:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> You also have to remember Wikipedia will never be complete
[18:02:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> [1/2] Right, I got a wiki to build (at this point I am just going to use most of the templates that exist on Meta, it works)
[18:02:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1246161807790444554/d2bce546ff6760d0.png?ex=665b621f&is=665a109f&hm=158cc37d1ecd0a0a35a9ae2778cdf86ada7fc9f7c9d6fb85c75ddf9f7a7cc32d&
[18:06:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to felenov> I'll put this on my curated list of gaming wikis very soon once it gets worked out a bit (or if the community, if any, moves or primarily works there) :p
[18:09:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov, replying to justleafy2003> I got a few people that will do the wiki writing, I just have to sort their work into pages and teach them how to MediaWiki
[18:11:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> using V2010 for now as it's easy to use for construction and then I am going to switch to Citizen once the wiki is mature enough. (usually I would use Monobook when editing)
[19:06:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov> This is the time I am going to work with the things I hate the most and that is meta-templates. I hate them but they make maintaining easier.