[00:10:51] I have seen so many better raids [00:12:02] I play Honkai: Star Rail mostly and used to play Genshin Impact more [01:04:55] [1/2] me :P [01:04:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1253878351463186472/Captura_de_Pantalla_2024-06-21_a_las_7.04.37_p.m..png?ex=667774b6&is=66762336&hm=b0447be66613fe4009107c7faafb398f102f23d1bac54f962122eecd5c1f2687& [01:06:31] enable geiser [01:34:19] or mc.miraheze.org [01:37:08] [1/2] oh fuck [01:37:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1253886458356301885/Captura_de_Pantalla_2024-06-21_a_las_7.36.55_p.m..png?ex=66777c43&is=66762ac3&hm=762971285e0d2051639d79841802702d8aaab897d8002ab75cba6f63a5d02cd9& [01:39:46] lol [01:46:00] no premium client 🤫 [01:49:16] I wish that I had Premium Java edition, I only have Bedrock [02:21:27] [1/2] > Given strong consensus against group creation and limited further activity, proposal 1 fails to pass, rendering all following proposals moot [02:21:27] [2/2] It was not "strong consensus", it was a 50/50 split, it should've been closed as no consensus [02:21:53] Well not 50/50 but 4 in support and 7 in opposition which is not "strong" [02:45:38] premium its just the game as intended [02:45:48] that the global groups RFC? howd it go [02:50:47] No, it's the global captcha group RfC [02:51:43] The oppose votes all were basically based on the idea that it'd grant some elevated global rights (it wouldn't) and that one proposed use case, counter vandalism, is bad because only CVT is allowed to revert vandalism (not true) [02:52:11] Plus one random vote that said something would go wrong if an exempt person was hacked which makes no sense [02:52:49] [1/2] literally [02:52:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1253905505315717120/Screenshot_20240621-195231.png?ex=66778e00&is=66763c80&hm=bdfdac79a51aa943ac8677bf119e0d9c11430c029b8c485c25facf3ff9e51680& [02:52:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1253905546961092682/Ladies_And_Gentlemen_We_Got_Him_Fbi_Edition-1.mp4?ex=66778e0a&is=66763c8a&hm=4d11a31227d046f4172e9418b26be9e1549d7afb7efd98e32ad8935aa765bdb4& [03:02:44] you love that a biiiit too much [03:10:08] [1/3] That is true, I love the "ladies and gentlemen, we got him" meme [03:10:08] [2/3] gets very loud at 0:21, you have been warned [03:10:09] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1253909862950113352/9x_owns_engiredbeard.mp4?ex=6677920f&is=6676408f&hm=fabe7a3fe41a54302aef4f2584302b9f7c29079ceb1f63c5031c5b992e052e5f& [06:02:35] [1/2] I don't see how the oppose votes were based on people thinking it would grant elevated rights, I don't think anyone thought that. As for countervandalism, yes it's true that regular users are allowed to revert it but the idea of the opposing votes was that if you regularly want to revert vandalism to the point where Captcha is annoying you, you might as we [06:02:35] [2/2] ll request Global Rollbacker [06:07:31] Fucking 700 pesos, hell nah [06:08:16] And I already have it but Bedrock [06:10:38] Playing NSMBW with an emulator and using a downloaded ROM 🤫🤫 [06:16:50] [1/2] We have different assignment values for subjective words, but point still stands, there wasn't a consensus for creation of the group. [06:16:50] [2/2] Point taken though and will moderate on usage of subjective words in future closures. [06:18:50] Hmm... [07:31:33] wait can you explain this to me I wanna laugh at it but I genuinely don't get it [09:28:12] [1/4] Minecraft servers run in online mode because authentication [09:28:12] [2/4] People who operate pirate servers turn that auth off and use a password plugin so players with pirate launchers can log in [09:28:13] [3/4] This inadvertently adds a shitload of unneeded security risks [09:28:13] [4/4] Piracy = bad [10:23:48] https://wikispeedrun.org/ we should do this but miraheze [12:35:27] Friend of mine is making a discord bot using heavy AI assistance (I’m ok bleh but he’s not one to listen and we are short on time). Any suggestions to make sure the code review is scathing thorough? [12:41:00] Don't use AI [12:43:11] Normally id agree [12:43:25] But Velky is the stubbornest bastard I’ve worked with in a whole [12:43:28] And I mean [12:43:31] It’s working(?) [12:43:47] He actually knows coding as well so not solo AI [12:44:12] May as well make the most of it [12:44:21] I just wanna deep clean and lint it before prod [13:05:29] I've been told copilot is decent [13:05:35] It depends a lot on the model [13:06:10] But I also got told to foxtrot oscar when I asked for the showcase of why [13:08:14] Huh [13:09:17] @pixldev there was a discussion with the policy area at work on AI code assistant tools [13:09:31] They were very rude [13:17:10] The coworkers or AI [13:27:26] The coworkers [13:27:46] Policy and engineers are supposed to get along [13:27:54] @pixldev [13:31:15] Somehow i doubt that [13:39:13] Aren't * [13:39:20] I typed too quick [13:39:34] They basically approach things in utterly different ways [15:17:56] There's no point in arguing about it so whatever [15:25:45] [1/2] Good luck on that 🤣 [15:25:45] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1254094986593435729/Screenshot_20240622_141444_YouTube.jpg?ex=66783e78&is=6676ecf8&hm=37d5b6cda6478ac86c49e7aaf9ac17b1517319ae88347a6c4c3969ec08e2dc43& [15:27:15] I just saw that, amazing [15:27:46] honestly, I'd suggest them to backup wiki just in case [15:28:09] who knows what's gonna happen in Disney will notice [15:28:15] This is ridiculous [15:28:18] Who’s during [15:28:21] The comments aren't any better [15:28:29] Sueing* [15:28:53] They're horrible, and I'm sure most of them have no idea how a wiki works [15:29:08] Implied [15:29:10] not to mention how many times they threatened to migrate trough ages, starting w/ Oasis outcry [15:29:30] They still on fandom? [15:29:42] Wookieepedia - yes [15:29:44] Yeah [15:30:16] in fact they are the only ones who can change Fandom's plans on anything lol [15:30:38] sorta like how Warcraft Wiki could [15:31:20] man I got android tablet and it's strange [15:31:29] apps are mobile but ??? [15:31:49] I don't like default keyboard too lol [15:32:19] Lame [15:32:35] Fair [15:32:49] Still [15:32:52] Anyways [15:32:58] Who’s the sueing paert [15:33:10] I've heard they did also get a bunch of vandalism threats unfortunately [15:33:15] shrugs lol [15:33:28] I'm assuming the YouTuber? Idk [15:33:48] Haven’t seen the video [15:33:53] What’s the tldr on this bs [15:34:28] Idk [15:34:36] But the comments section is horrible [15:35:35] Do I even wanna know [15:37:15] Dms [16:02:14] This is the epitome of US frivolous lawsuits. [16:03:42] US fucking A [16:26:13] Anyway he'll probably be laughed out of the lawyer's office. [16:28:46] Skipped to the last 30 seconds of the video. No one is being sued. [16:31:52] There’s no case LMs [16:32:00] Tell me [16:32:05] Who do you sue in this case [16:32:10] In any case against a wiki [16:32:16] It’s not a legal entity [16:32:46] It’s made up anonymous editors [16:32:53] FANDOM? Like hell [16:33:19] um, actually, registered editors 🤓 [16:33:35] but yes, it doesn't make any difference [16:33:54] My best guess is Fandom or the individual editors. [16:34:33] I don't see why a court wouldn't be able to get your IP and whatever else Fandom has. [16:34:52] how can u sue the individual editors? who do u determine to be sued? [16:36:17] and even then, if one is gonna sue over that one piece of disputed info, what about the other dozens of times where disputed or false info was inserted? [16:37:17] Lol [16:37:30] But who’s? [16:37:33] The admins? [16:37:37] The person who added itv [16:38:09] u gotta ask the real questions first [16:38:53] [1/2] Idk, if it's multiple occasions of the same thing happening, then that might strengthen the case. [16:38:54] [2/2] I bet Twitter could provide the IP of whoever was using the Wookiepedia account at the time, etc. [16:39:59] and if they're trying to go to suing Fandom, u first gotta ask questions like: is Fandom liable for this info, even if the company didn't write it? is the entire platform or company to be blamed over this? [16:41:00] Probably not [16:41:05] exactly [16:41:32] Unless of course [16:41:51] and even if you somehow do manage to go through all these questions first, even though it's practically impossible, and somehow manage to open a case, I'm sure Fandom and potentially even Disney would be on Wookieepedia's side [16:42:43] I don't really get what a company being a side means here. [16:43:05] so tl;dr there's no way one can sue a wiki for being what it is [16:48:30] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Litigation_involving_the_Wikimedia_Foundation [16:55:27] The Wikimedia foundation is a legal entity in itself [16:55:32] It’s a 501 non profit foundation [16:55:55] Wookiepedia has no legal entity who’s name you can put on paperwork [17:05:14] the funniest thing is [17:05:21] it's a fan wiki [17:05:46] editor took new info from an IP media whatever you call it and just added that to the wiki [17:06:30] like, they hate "Disney canon" so much, w/ burning passion but somehow lash out on fan wiki instead for no reason lol [17:16:50] Doesn't it just go to Fandom or the editors then? [17:21:19] Both are in vain [17:21:33] The editors you need personal IRL information to file a suit [17:21:43] And they may not even be in your jurisdiction [17:21:44] And fandom [17:21:48] Good luck fucker [17:24:06] Sadly there is no convenient list of litigations related to Fandom immediately available. [17:25:35] Happy to say that it does not look like Miraheze has been sued. [17:31:13] I vaguely remember at least 2 suit threats on Mira lol [17:31:24] in the form of angry comments on Meta [17:36:24] Years of internet drama have conditioned me to immediately view threats of legal action like that video and random comments as a bunch of hot air. [19:11:37] @canyada do you know how much iron we have on mhsmp [19:12:01] 5 billion [19:13:25] Time to build new York in minecraft [19:13:47] need diamonds though [19:14:09] good so much gold yet no diamonds [19:14:32] 😔 gotta get on that hustle [19:14:52] god im sleep deprived i misspelled hustle 4 times typing that [19:15:07] When did you sleep [19:15:13] its 3am rn [19:15:16] woke up at 2pm [19:15:18] everything is fucked [19:16:09] oh so are you related to one mr go to sleep at 3am de jong? [19:16:18] naurrrrr [19:16:37] i would never. always on that hutsle. only ever going to sleep at 6am [19:16:56] I went to sleep past 12 AM and felt like garbage this morning [19:17:28] Im used to a sane schedule cause school [19:18:28] lmaoo [19:18:35] If you’re gonna be a stubborn bitch and stay up hustle is some diamonds or iron [19:19:11] okey.... [19:19:47] been trying to hunt down ooui classes this past 2 days theyre such a pain in the ass [19:20:41] how so [19:21:27] ill prob explore that mineshaft when i get home [19:22:49] [1/2] theres so many edgecases and i need to check every little corner to see if something worked/hasnt broken. this guy in particular i hate [19:22:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1254154648810426430/image.png?ex=66787609&is=66772489&hm=c6a087c6f4652dce58d988f5675838a4c1eefce7b443226de31fad50b2f5d8a7& [19:45:49] ooooof [19:58:29] <.labster> I like how Wiki Technician is winning over Wiki Mechanic in the RFC by one single strongest support to a weak support. It's otherwise 4 to 4. [19:59:07] thoughts here? https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Global_Conduct_Policy_and_Global_Bans [19:59:43] I wouldn't necessarily consider that consensus tbh [19:59:51] We can change it to Wiki Teqnician if you’ll swing your vote 😆 [20:00:55] Well can’t really close something to decide a name on no consensus [20:01:41] I agree but making a determination as big as that one based off a weak support vs regular support would be heavily contested [20:02:27] I’m open to better ideas [20:02:37] Coin flip? [20:02:47] maybe [20:02:54] @brandon.wm heads [20:03:01] Eh too much chance. Chess game maybe [20:03:10] monopoly? [20:03:18] Minecraft pvp duel? [20:03:24] a coin flip actually isn't a bad idea, thinking about it [20:03:42] if so dibs on fighting for the mechanic side [20:03:46] lmao [20:04:03] I am absolutely DOGSHIT at Pvp [20:04:06] its saf [20:04:14] im F- tier [20:04:18] 😭 [20:04:24] do you play minecraft [20:04:29] nope [20:04:53] really? You peg me for the type [20:05:20] lol [20:05:23] but yeah no [20:05:30] oof [20:05:36] its a fun game to play with friends [20:06:07] the miraheze server felenov opened a few days ago is coming nicely [20:06:16] (i found an axolotal!!!!) [20:06:30] his name is wattles [20:09:55]