[00:45:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to aidenthetoymaniac> Unlike Fandom we give you pretty near the entire toolbox by default, and that's absolutely a learning curve, but thankfully you've got this helpful community of volunteers to walk you questions as they come up.  Don't hesitate to reach out in #general for quick smaller questions or start a #support thread for more complex stuff
[04:03:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov, replying to aidenthetoymaniac> Also, you can have a look at https://dev.miraheze.org for templates to copy and use
[04:29:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64> https://plpolitics.miraheze.org/wiki/Specjalna:Rejestr?type=block&user=ProxyBOT&page=&wpdate=&tagfilter=&wpfilters%5B%5D=newusers&wpFormIdentifier=logeventslist - a wiki set up a bot that can detect and block proxies
[04:33:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to mooncloud> yes
[04:35:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to aidenthetoymaniac> [1/2] oh yeah, I remember that wiki, and now do kinda remember you first working on it lol
[04:35:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to aidenthetoymaniac> [2/2] good luck on it
[05:40:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272> https://youtu.be/URBbPgvVs90?si=ByD5Qb7N18cmDn2l
[06:09:22] <BlankEclair>	 i step away for like twenty minutes and my entire laptop casually just crashed mostly everything
[06:10:46] <BlankEclair>	 yep it OOMed
[06:11:01] <BlankEclair>	 can't even step away compiling java17-openjfx without my laptop crapping itself
[06:13:26] <BlankEclair>	 lol half of the processes are gone, gotta reboot xD
[07:31:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to aidenthetoymaniac> no need to be this harsh, I just don't check support channel lol
[08:03:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> Heh, we have quite a few "I like Miraheze because its not fandom" replies to the survey 😆
[08:34:15] <BlankEclair>	 can confirm, joined miraheze because it's not fandom
[08:34:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> that does summarize my join reason pretty cleanly
[08:35:28] <BlankEclair>	 (well, i joined miraheze because a wiki of a topic i'm interested in forked from fandom, but the explanation above is more succinct so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
[08:37:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yeah, fandom basically told me 'no lol' for trying to get some communities in a niche I liked in order and I came here
[08:38:57] <BlankEclair>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global#Global_lock_for_Googol03
[08:39:12] <BlankEclair>	 fun fact: this person ban evaded and the second thing they do is make an edit on my talk page whilst i'm in the middle of editing
[08:39:19] <BlankEclair>	 idk what they expected lmao
[08:50:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> pff
[09:27:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> I joined because there are some wikis here of my interest, between forked wikis and even smaller, original ones
[09:30:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Same reason for wiki.gg
[09:30:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> there's a couple wikis I follow casually
[09:31:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> I don't get around as often as I may like and that even less often translates to being a 'local user'
[09:35:22] <BlankEclair>	 https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Manual:$wgDBport; i want to know why this is psql only but i also don't want to know why
[09:35:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to raidarr> I've put a list of Miraheze wikis for myself to use (and potentially for others who are interested), particularly game wikis
[09:36:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Cuz I like collecting and/or curating these wikis
[09:36:32] <BlankEclair>	 wiki collecting sounds like what a data hoarder would do
[09:37:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> By collecting, I mean like just listing them, kinda like having my own little library 😅
[09:38:01] <BlankEclair>	 somewhat related: i tried to make a dump of animatedmusclewomenwiki (because it got closed by a steward), but gave up when i was at ~7000 pages out of ~33k
[09:38:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> https://justleafy.miraheze.org/wiki/List_of_Miraheze_wikis
[09:38:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Before Miraheze, I didn't even know of Fandom 🤣
[09:38:56] <BlankEclair>	 lucky
[09:39:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to rodejong> Pretty wild, considering Fandom is by far the biggest wiki platform
[09:40:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> I wonder how did you discover Miraheze ?
[09:40:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> at one point I started to collect wikis mainly to find nice themes to link to as examples when I was on about reviewing each miraheze skin
[09:41:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to justleafy2003> I'm 50+ and not a gamer. So likely therefore
[09:41:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> which I do not expect to make real progress on this year
[09:41:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> if you don't look up entertainment (shows etc) or games or stuff in that vein you could miss fandom
[09:41:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to justleafy2003> My Wiki is not on it 🧐😤
[09:41:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to raidarr> True
[09:42:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to rodejong> It's a specific subset of game wikis :p
[09:42:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> What is your wiki btw
[09:42:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Just joking. I see it as a compliment
[09:42:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Ah
[09:42:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Jwmeeting
[09:43:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Anyway, I found out about Miraheze back when it was like the home of reception wikis that got closed from Fandom lol
[09:43:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths, replying to justleafy2003> [1/2] Yay 
[09:43:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ghaztliousmoths, replying to justleafy2003> [2/2] Usagi shima on here
[09:43:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> yes, for better or worse the reception wiki business made a splash in the wiki space
[09:44:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> though much of it was localized to a few areas or search types
[09:44:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to ghaztliousmoths> Figured I'd include it cuz it is seemingly more updated, so why not
[09:45:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to raidarr> Yeah, though glad to see there are more decent wikis on the platform
[09:45:46] <BlankEclair>	 i wonder how the currently-existing reception wikis on miraheze are doing
[09:46:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Don't know, don't care
[09:46:17] <BlankEclair>	 honestly yeah me too
[09:46:21] <BlankEclair>	 only mildly curious
[09:46:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> As long as there isn't much drama...
[09:46:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> What is certain tho is that they're scattered everywhere, like there are some still here, some on Fandom, maybe even there's one on Telepedia AFAIK?
[09:47:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> And they're not much of an issue now as they used to be
[09:47:31] <BlankEclair>	 https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Steward_requests/Global#c-Raidarr-20240722092900-Googol03-20240722082300; i love that succinct response xD
[09:47:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Not to bash or accuse them of anything, but they were a certainly interesting network of wikis
[09:48:50] <BlankEclair>	 i think this is why they're saying that socking is allowed: https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Community_portal/Archive_46#Is_the_socks_allowed?
[09:52:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Could be. Evading should be made more clear perhaps.
[09:54:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> for gong the only answer is no
[09:54:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> for anyone with a good faith use case I may spare more words
[09:55:36] <BlankEclair>	 > may
[09:57:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to BlankEclair> once in a while I see people on twitter complaining about them
[09:57:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> reception wikis I mean
[09:57:55] <BlankEclair>	 i was about to ask for context, ty
[09:58:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I meant to reply to your question about the ones still on Miraheze
[09:59:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I once ran on a person complaining about a google saved copy of rotten websites which was closed long time ago, they thought it's still there on Miraheze
[09:59:47] <BlankEclair>	 (i assume you meant ran across and not ran on, otherwise that'd be very interesting)
[09:59:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mintybingus, replying to justleafy2003> I'm pretty sure I found it while looking for tvtropes stuff. admittedly, I was concerned that it was like. a fraud mirror of TVtropes or something at first dfgdsffds
[10:00:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I hope the way how QP was shutdown gave some kind of small lesson to others
[10:00:44] <BlankEclair>	 how did it shut down?
[10:02:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] admins grew tired of constant dramas and toxicity and decide to shutdown themselves, there was large discussion
[10:02:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] a lot of those who wanted them to stay were largely literal children who essentially used these wikis as social media
[10:03:02] <BlankEclair>	 honestly i'm kinda surprised that the admins weren't children
[10:03:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> well, they used to be, and then grew up
[10:03:31] <BlankEclair>	 lmao-
[10:03:38] <BlankEclair>	 how long did QP last?
[10:03:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> those who supported shutdown were old time users who admitted that the place was bad etc
[10:04:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I'm convinced that Fandom discussions started this trend of using wikis as social venues by children who aren't allowed to use proper platforms
[10:05:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it's still there on fandom, Pizza Tower Wiki, and it's honestly a disaster to look at
[10:05:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> *particularly
[10:06:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Children should play outside! I was never home, and mobiles were not even a thing back then. My childhood was great. The good old times.
[10:06:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> old time users who left these wikis and just decided to chime in discussions
[10:07:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> idk man, I played games
[10:07:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> depends on childhood and child, but I do feel like social media is damaging at early age
[10:08:27] <BlankEclair>	 related: https://tildes.net/~tech/1hq8/we_unleashed_facebook_and_instagrams_algorithms_on_blank_accounts_they_served_up_sexism_and_misogyny
[10:09:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I got Internet access at ripe old age on 17 lol, cus broke, but looking at what first world millennials gone trough online, and at kids online, I'm kinda glad (it still didn't save me from being cringe or making bad decisions lol)
[10:10:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> *kids online nowadays
[10:11:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> I had no patience for connecting to Internet back then 😂
[11:30:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] oof
[11:30:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1264907298946416690/IMG_20240722_142937.jpg?ex=669f9438&is=669e42b8&hm=283f03773f4205b255ebe941ed4bcb7729ec1494f42c03946efb505cd448949d&
[11:30:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> tbf I first heard of toyhou.se only couple of months ago, nor have a desire to have an account there
[11:32:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> for some reason I never vibed w/ deep cataloguing of my characters, a tumblr tag at max lol (also I haven't made any references)
[11:53:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mintybingus> oof, I have toyhou.se and thankfully haven't seen that kind of stuff happening
[11:53:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <mintybingus> either way any images I have there are either posted on multiple other sites or would take less than a minute to recreate
[13:11:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> Google drive will bite them in the bum long term I think
[13:26:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [1/2] just have to ask everyone: What zodiac signs are you?
[13:26:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz> [2/2] Mine actually is Aries, but my characters wants to be a Pisces
[13:26:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cibryll> Scorpio (21 November).
[13:27:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <songngu.xyz, replying to cibryll> siblings are interesting
[13:33:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272> So what would you do when it becomes the tenth year of Morales’s
[13:39:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to songngu.xyz> libra / dog
[13:42:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to yoshi459292927370272> Open a new headquarters on mars
[13:46:44] <BlankEclair>	 miraheze do be pioneering space travel
[16:16:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to yoshi459292927370272> 10 years will be insane
[16:17:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272, replying to rhinosf1> Yeah always know as a huge event for most things
[17:22:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to yoshi459292927370272> establish Orain
[21:17:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drewindigo, replying to rhinosf1> Yeah it will be
[21:17:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drewindigo> It's also been a little over 11 years since I joined my first wiki
[21:17:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <drewindigo> such fun memories
[22:39:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clockworky> i fucking hate Microsoft decides out of nowhere that secure boot changed so i need my bitlocker so i login on my phone and it turned off and when i turn it back on nah dont need none of that bitlocker recovery key crap
[22:39:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clockworky> just wasted my time
[22:40:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> no longer my problem thankfully