[01:28:46] hi [02:07:31] [1/2] actually is kinda neat but I could not imagine having this [02:07:31] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/Miraheze_redesign [02:08:46] yeah I was having a look at failed RFC's [03:24:27] I've been telling to everyone, but that recent forked to wiki.gg admin is too adamant on vandalizing the old wiki lol [03:55:02] Tbh, I also agree that vandalizing the old wiki is counter productive [03:56:28] It's a waste of time for everyone involved [03:57:19] Honestly, I am aware and personally sort of accept the fact that the old wiki can be first in SEO, so why make the old wiki vandalized and confuse any reader who stumble upon the old wiki? [03:59:59] My advice? Leave the old wiki alone and spend all your time working on the new one instead [04:06:36] I've talked about this on the Needy Streamer Overload Wiki [04:41:26] [1/3] saw another "wiki" promotion (not a wiki, another static website w/ "wiki" in URL) [04:41:26] [2/3] then this happened [04:41:27] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1268790742629875743/IMG_20240802_073937.jpg?ex=66adb4f6&is=66ac6376&hm=aae826d59e941f5f3bafd6e3f0a0767d2dab11e30eaec46a8393fd13e145005b& [04:41:47] ah yes, Scully, my favourite Star Trek character [04:57:40] I'm starting getting baffled by the fact that someone can set up a server, build a whole ass site, buy domain for it, but didn't bother to google what "wiki" means and what makes it different from other kinds of fan sites [05:02:13] wiki is just synonymous with encyclopedia to the general public tbh (and imo also) [05:02:42] I understand but it's honestly a misuse of the term [05:03:38] a static site can act as encyclopedia or knowledge base, hell, the majority of fan sites used to be like that [05:03:56] [1/2] the nature of language and all that [05:03:57] [2/2] i also feel like nowadays fansite is a bit of a antiquated word [05:04:15] I blame social media [05:04:30] if i say "i made a star trek fansite" i dont think ppl would get what to expect immediately, compared to "i made a star trek wiki" [05:05:54] and then you get people like "new star wars wiki" folks being completely clueless [05:06:51] when me and Bongo started explaining how things actually work on Wookipedia and stuff you could see their enthusiasm doing a nose dive [05:07:30] they already had couple of "web developer/designer" role and they had no slightest idea what is MediaWiki [05:07:45] :xsob: [05:09:04] well and then now theres ppl saying "(media) fandom" to refer to the wiki. so im also old man yells at cloud [05:09:29] I never personally liked the word "fandom" tbh lol [05:09:47] same, wikia was a perfectly fine and catchy name [05:10:42] so when they started rebranding it I felt disgust from both usage of this exact word and the fact that they trademark something related to free, independent communities and stuff [05:13:12] Or "Wikipedia" [05:13:24] :moonch: [05:13:32] :moonch: [05:13:46] I can forgive "wikipedia" actually [05:13:48] lol [05:13:55] I CANT! [05:14:03] ITS MORE SYLLABLES! [05:25:10] FANDOM is the main wiki farm, unfortunately [05:26:19] ive also seen ppl call miraheze wikis "(media) miraheze" [05:26:28] my problem with it is its just a longer word to type and say [05:29:18] [1/2] no offense but the people that say that are the type of people that the only wiki that uses MediaWiki that they know is Wikipedia, that don't know that is editable ||(fun fact: I telled a friend that I got banned from Wikipedia and she said that "you got banned because of hacking wikipedia and editing it")||, and they don't anything more about wikimedi [05:29:18] [2/2] a [05:30:00] but well... old people or people that don't know that well about those things [05:39:52] heh, [WikiInfants](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Seven_Ages_of_Wikipedians#WikiInfant) [07:37:52] [1/3] I guess there is kinda the geniusness of the wiki.gg brand for a couple of reasons: [07:37:52] [2/3] - its brand is literally a url [07:37:53] [3/3] - the brand has the word "wiki" in i [07:39:38] wiki.surf is not an bad option if we ever decided to rename- [07:41:09] orain.wikis [07:46:43] I'm still sad that "wiki hive" is taken 😔 [07:47:31] this was the only good option in my eyes [07:48:37] hivewikis [07:49:06] tbh that sounds more like an actual wiki rather then a farm [07:49:42] hivewikis [07:51:46] tbh yeah, a word before wiki does give such impression, while putting it after make different emphasis? [07:52:43] yeah, just kinda joking [07:54:13] [1/2] @li.ao tbh I don't watch YT that often (or videos online overall), and I've been sitting on VPN daily for so long, I don't care nor notice slow connection unless it's really fucking slow [07:54:13] [2/2] but a friend of mine yesterday said YT phone app does act slower [07:55:15] But are VPNs not completly blocked? [07:55:22] nope [07:55:40] some fell apart, some gave up, some still manage to work [07:55:53] Or just like China's censorship some major VPNs are blocked but it doesn't complete covers every VPN [07:56:06] I know, just like China's performances [07:56:09] 😀😂 [07:56:34] yeah, it's impossible to block every fucking one of them + new will emerge lol [07:57:30] Yes it's not possible for doing so [07:57:55] And you don't plan to moving away? [07:58:55] a lot of people want to move, it just takes different time for everyone [07:59:26] For example for you what's the approximate time [07:59:39] appreciate the concern but I keep it to myself [07:59:48] don't wanna jinx it [08:00:17] Okay [08:01:05] I'm getting close, the visa officer game me positive signals for the first time taking informal interview but I didn't submit the application because of bad password problems [08:01:33] I get a new one this month and since it's rescheduled I can wait [08:01:43] *passport [08:27:05] [1/2] https://discordapp.com/channels/407504499280707585/407537962553966603/1268838483754221629 [08:27:05] [2/2] there aren't problems with access, just traffic getting slowed down severely [09:45:03] [1/2] Greetings 👋🏼😃 [09:45:03] [2/2] Just arrived and wanted to say hi ! [09:57:50] sup [11:15:35] 🙂 [11:16:55] Can't wait to see my Wiki Request approved, not that I'm impatient (I'm human so I am a little bit 😜) but more that I can't wait to see what I will be able to do. [11:21:27] Which request is that? [11:27:55] Oh just the creation request no big deal, I know it takes time. 🙂 [14:42:53] @songngu.xyz welcome to fedi [14:43:07] already does [15:25:47] ProtonVPN works with Miraheze [15:27:17] ProtonVPN is one that gave up here in Russia lol [15:27:32] also their email i blocked in Russia since 2021 [15:41:25] I imagine the struggle :'( [15:52:35] orain.org aftermath gives SSL_ERROR_BAD_CERT_DOMAIN so 😬 [16:01:28] oof [19:31:06] Sorry Miraheze for doing death treaths! I was a bad user [19:32:43] Let's avoid additional death threats, thanks. [19:33:42] Seriously?🥹 [19:37:44] Should go without saying but we have absolutely no tolerance or anything of the sort of death threats [19:41:37] Ok [19:43:14] Death threats is absolutely something that will not be tolerated basically anywhere you go [19:51:31] Go way Tali i don't like you!you are obsessed to block me forever [19:53:27] New Qualitipedia is a bunch of trash! Polandball wiki is the real gem of Miraheze [19:55:29] I’d highly advise you remain respectful of our community members if you’d like to stay in this server 🙂 [20:01:57] @pixldev I know I was a vandal and a harasser like what Tali says! Sorry [20:03:27] Emhhh guys? [20:03:41] Let's all return to our days, thanks. Not much else to be said on this topic. [20:04:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1269022960207794276/canada-and-italy-v0-zz00p25jh2nb1.png?ex=66ae8d3b&is=66ad3bbb&hm=3cbc031b4403747b2219bd5f1032d4bfdd1be15069f13e16aa3a892c8667810f& [20:04:33] I found this [20:05:10] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1269023205629366303/bce1552e4793351ec4a6619dc77445d4.png?ex=66ae8d75&is=66ad3bf5&hm=ff14e808c64159630fddcb65ea4fb71fdc9e94f3d458cd4037845c18edfd1d28& [20:05:13] This [20:05:23] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1269023262281695343/1648063031.jpg?ex=66ae8d83&is=66ad3c03&hm=47ca7f175801bc32fec11acdfdcb726c777e2205cfaf53eb78f4ad3038996e8f& [20:05:25] And this [20:06:17] Please don't spam memes, this would be more at home in a polandball-specific discord. [21:10:34] The horrid days of rage face and poland ball comics. Somehow still alive 15 years later, kids. [21:12:05] rage face is dead, what we see now is horrid mutation