[01:25:19] Help Wanted is my fav one, I’d recommend it [01:25:34] If u don’t have VR then just 1-4 are the best ones imo [07:34:47] every once in a while the idea of a data base kind of wiki gets louder in my brain and I have to keep away the urge to start it, I know I'm gonna be a single admin/editor again and it won't end well lol [07:35:08] convert a wiki into one [07:35:24] wdym convert lol [07:36:35] i guess gradually turn a "loose" wiki into a machine-parsable one [07:36:44] e.g. https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Special:CargoTables/chapters [07:37:14] nah, that's the problem, there's no such wiki lol [07:37:31] ah [07:37:45] by data base I meant not technical data base but like a collection of things under same theme [07:38:06] oh [07:38:26] also i'm not even like 15 minutes into debugging and i'm already going to git blame ooui [07:38:33] like IMDB, you know [07:38:49] ooui my behated, and I say this as css poker [07:39:49] ooui my behated x2 [07:42:56] i wonder how Extension:ImportDump worked [07:43:13] apparently it passed a *.xml as the accept parameter, but the docs say that it takes in mime types [07:43:46] looks like my mediawiki 1.41 install is going to be brought up yet again [07:51:14] i love how every time i step through a function librewolf gets to >100% cpu [07:55:28] okay, so basically it seems like old ooui js did not set HTMLInputElement.files, but the newer one does [07:55:40] and the file check on miraheze's side was just always broken [08:57:10] [1/2] whoever leaves out a space in headings deserves to edit with a typewriter and the USPS [08:57:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1270304652260409395/66b66b41b9416404.png?ex=66b336e6&is=66b1e566&hm=06ea0abd472eb021147479564d35055a2b429746b28252c8f32f5a7786a237e9& [11:01:10] -# Activity ended. Start a new one? [11:03:07] #bots please [13:33:07] https://tenor.com/view/cat-confused-gif-7441776660901104597 [16:11:12] https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/615786602454581249/1224438238249353297/makesweet-zd7kkp.gif [16:11:56] https://tenor.com/view/confused-confused-look-confused-face-huh-what-gif-2480734549943489640 [16:12:18] It’s an old joke haha [16:12:36] Orain was the precursor to miraheze almost a decade ago [16:13:12] Well unless you expect me to be a time traveller (which I neither deny nor confirm) I wonder why me 😅 [16:13:39] you were meant to be [16:14:11] During April fools we rebranded the discord to become orain hence the emojis [16:14:17] It was funny [16:14:24] Oh [16:14:33] HTTPS://meta.orain.org as brought this back as a joke [16:29:53] [1/2] interesting js stuff, I may cook something with it but only for a template tho [16:29:54] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1270418583146463386/K.png?ex=66b3a101&is=66b24f81&hm=90471fbe356f93379d87114ee109b7cd669fdcb06d81ca11d88a8d811abade02& [16:31:46] PSA: You can no longer get a link to the VS2019 installer [16:33:50] I might have an archived copy or be able to get one through my Azure DevOps account, if that is the case I will publish a guide on my site [17:04:25] I can [17:04:29] Through MSDN [17:04:44] There's still VS2017 on there [17:05:12] Not sure where I put the installer files [17:05:33] I could annoy my little friends in EUS2 though [17:11:59] If you got the installer for VS2019 and 2017, I would appreciate a copy. Upgrading my extensions for 2022 would take a good 30+ hours [17:13:35] i can't [17:13:45] it's on a work machine [17:16:23] [1/2] 1am stupid ideas: remaking media viewer from scratch for my own purposes (convoluted hole i dug myself into) (made a thing that filters/sorts a bunch of images -> when clicking next in the media viewer it still shows it by the order they were put in the source code -> rewrote the js to rearrange in DOM instead of just visually rearranging with flexbox order -> now the media viewer do [17:16:23] [2/2] esnt open at all when clicking on images that have been DOM manipulated and goes straight to the file page) [17:17:07] Going to have to try to social engineer a Microsoft employee for a access [17:20:25] Yup [17:26:06] Speaking of if you want free Azure credit, they hand that stuff out like tictacs, I know someone who never had his card on file charged. [17:26:29] I'm not even sure how our billing works tbh [17:26:35] Yeah but its just a waste because everntually you'll have to pay and the prices are extortinate [17:26:52] I know I have some free credits [17:26:59] But we have an agreement [17:27:12] We have agreements with Amazon, Google & Microsoft [17:27:25] I just get a fixed montly invoice from M$ and pay it for my org. [17:27:52] We have a cloud centre of excellence [17:28:02] It's somewhere between finance and they [17:28:36] In terms of billing the better companies are Cloudflare and Hetzner Online [17:28:55] I need to update the billing details on cloudflare [17:29:11] It still says fossbots on the e-invoice [17:29:18] Cloudflare asks 200 USD extortion money in return you sleep at night [17:29:20] Although it's free now anyway [17:29:37] from what I've heard cloudflare does eventually come down incredibly hard if it feels you're using a bit more than they want you to use for a given plan [17:29:56] Oh yes, if you do not have an agreement that is binding, they will fuck you over [17:31:13] It is literally extortion levels if you don't have a document that signed by both parties. In that case they will have to reach out and re-arrange the terms but if you just signed up and clicked "I agree" they can and will rug-pull you. [17:35:42] [1/2] Speaking of, they really took the "redpilled" meme to a product. I would not trust the claims of said product [17:35:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1270435144649539624/firefox_2024-08-06_17-34-18.png?ex=66b3b06e&is=66b25eee&hm=446b5fbf6a8442a5eaaf7c6d9ced0c6a3bcbcf456fb2bc2031828bdf097449e6& [18:15:11] I mean KiwiFarms kinda deserved it tbh [18:28:52] @rhinosf1 The stewards delete wikis using the special manager wiki button [18:29:14] And? [18:29:30] I'm not sure why you're telling me [18:29:53] IDK [18:30:04] careful [18:30:30] messaging people with completely unrelated things will not get you far here either [18:31:51] Miraheze hate me [18:32:17] does miraheze still hate me? [18:32:39] miraheze does not appreciate spamming [18:33:49] @raidarr Ok give me the proofs why I was a vandal and i spammed everyone user page?! [18:35:00] interesting, I never specified that [18:35:02] thank you for the evidence though [18:35:22] 🤨 [18:36:23] Interesting what? [18:36:45] what vandalism and userpages are you referring to [18:37:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1270450802963648593/image0.jpg?ex=66b3bf03&is=66b26d83&hm=8b60f477e9286c121e94d3b033d3cc07e21cb57ab28e405e687a56b1863b001a& [18:39:01] @raidarr this [18:39:38] good, so you've admitted it there and by proxy admit it now [18:39:44] so let me lay it clearly [18:40:03] messaging people with random stuff further will extend your block to this discord server including with accounts that appear in the future [18:40:28] Yikes [18:40:35] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [19:07:30] [1/2] I drawed this cute cartoonish Mirahezeball [19:07:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1270458246297030678/5444717_479696_metaknight545_mirahezeball.e04366928664bfff0a4076ef36fe4912.webp?ex=66b3c5f1&is=66b27471&hm=0c374ca79acf3058bf75246892f8d0f26c9da56a0ff902250b427f0574a414f7& [19:19:35] [1/2] I disagree, in fact I used to moderate the Telegram channels for said forum and do some SRE there. [19:19:35] [2/2] Most of the forum is relatively sane people but there is a small group of individuals that break the look-but-no-touch rule and do creepy things, those individuals are disliked and get the hammer fast [19:20:25] Did they get the hammer fast? [19:21:30] When I was online I would ban and expunge any fedposters, creeps and individuals who are general liability [19:22:10] Did everyone when you weren't online? [19:23:44] I picked all the janitors so most of the time it was fairly clean. KF is a magnet for LTA-minded individuals so we had to ban one actor dozens and dozens of times [19:24:05] I don't think it was an easy decision for cloudflare [19:24:20] And the situation on KiwiFarms escalated dangerously and a fairly rapid pace [19:25:04] @rhinosf1 what are you talking about? [19:25:26] The decision by Cloudflare to remove KiwiFarms [19:25:36] kiwifarm? [19:25:53] Oh yes, some keyboard warriors have done very illegal things over email and the post, I in fact have some copies of those communications and obviously individuals had to get reported where appropriate [19:26:40] Some keyboard warriors were making repeated, targeted & specific threats to life, limb or property [19:27:35] Said individuals have been banned from the forum. [19:28:10] [1/2] but this doesn't interest you? [19:28:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1270463443383746641/image0.jpg?ex=66b3cac8&is=66b27948&hm=0d0419ed99f4714272497ce062952ad091d35da8d750ebf574398968a11af5e8& [19:28:29] But did the situation not reach a level that was posing an imminent danger? [19:28:46] No [19:29:10] @rhinosf1 Lol [19:29:12] There have been cases of [[WP:911]] leves of OH SHIT, if you want the details I would rather not discuss them here. [19:29:12] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/WP:911 [19:29:12]

[19:29:19] No [19:29:24] But my point is it happened [19:29:34] And I think cloudflare are duty bound to act [19:30:11] They have to act to prevent imminent harm occurring [19:30:32] On that note, I wonder if we ever had a response from NCMEC [19:30:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1270464060156149850/f2682ee3ee88311aef968161c4513322.jpg?ex=66b3cb5c&is=66b279dc&hm=189b61fd13712fbd7384eb7ea5166c9832a87f3fd5aa05e97c2b72496304c25b& [19:30:46] These are my friends [19:31:33] what's that [19:31:54] National Centre for Missing & Exploited Children [19:32:16] There is a plan to scan uploads against known hashes of explicit imagery involving children [19:32:34] There's been a plan for a while but it only restarted under Cloudflare [19:32:44] Cause PhotoDNA didn't reply either [19:32:55] They were forced into it by a few individuals, who are a liability for a community. I have talked to CF staff, nicest people I worked with but they had to do what they did because of a few individuals [19:33:24] CF staff are quite nice ye [19:33:28] I've talked to a few too [19:33:50] Not sure they are the nicest company I've ever dealt with [19:34:13] but I think it was a perfectly reasonable response to KiwiFarms [19:34:23] I don't think you can say KiwiFarms were screwed over [19:34:31] The company's legal and management team and the rest of the employees are different things [19:35:22] Even at the rest of the employee level, they are pretty good [19:35:22] Google cloud staff are cool, their management is pure evil. [19:35:29] I said not the nicest I've ever dealt with [19:35:34] Maybe 2nd or 3rd [19:35:47] AWS are pretty cool [19:36:02] Or at least the guys I worked with are [19:36:04] I would rank it up there, but still Hetzner Online has the nicest staff and good management since recently [19:36:08] Never spoke to any management [19:36:21] Nicest company I've ever dealt with are Portsmouth Water [19:36:52] My take on it is I would rather overpay than vote with my wallet for a company that treats their employees like shit [19:37:20] I don't even pay that much for fresh water charges [19:37:31] But they actually care about customers [19:37:37] And like they actually follow up [19:37:46] They don't say they'll call you back, they actually do [19:37:50] And normally pretty fast [19:38:32] It's really really easy to reach a human without waiting and get who you need [19:38:44] And have someone care from end to end [19:39:49] Accuracy International has a good customer service team. You get through to someone who knows what they are doing [19:41:12] Never worked with them [19:41:24] Government money doesn't mean good customer service [19:41:52] I work in the public sector, none of our contracts have decent customer service SLAs [19:41:59] Some don't even have them [19:43:56] [1/2] Those guys make things such as this, and the market is quite specialized [19:43:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1270467417205772351/DSC_0007-1395982710.jpg?ex=66b3ce7c&is=66b27cfc&hm=4060f2f5a521b458a94709601aa05bd8dc7e2dd4a0ea17859c970d2a24060e71& [19:44:05] They remember their customers for years [19:47:19] SIG Sauer, HK and Steyer are huge, but companies like AI, Barrett and pretty much any others that specialize are small enough and have good CS [19:47:49] Ah [19:49:52] I been eyeing a Barret M107A1 for a while but looking at the pricing I suddenly don't want to buy [20:16:43] Helloooo Poland a:fox_dance: [20:18:01] are there any poland balls around [20:18:16] any what now [20:19:18] https://tenor.com/view/poland-ball-poland-polska-gif-9104158 [20:19:28] Ohhhhhh [20:23:45] @pixldev Eh!Even you post polandball [20:24:28] @luca6457._52922 may you consider stopping talking unless you have something meaningful to say [20:24:46] Ok [20:58:59] Or at least stop pinging people