[00:02:26] "Teh epik duck is haking!1!1!" [07:38:16] seems like fandom is another wiki kick spree [08:00:59] saw on twitter wikis about a AliceSoft and a 4chan board getting shutdown [08:37:18] i wonder how wikiapiary is doing these days [08:49:22] dead [08:49:28] or at least not accepting new users [08:49:36] how long has it been dead for though [08:49:37] [1/2] > We're moving homes [08:49:37] [2/2] 2 years later: [08:49:41] oh [08:49:58] i was checking in ever since our wiki migrated from fandom [08:50:03] ~4 months ago [08:50:31] [1/2] only websites of the utmost quality are permitted here [08:50:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1271752528320790578/IMG_4334.png?ex=66b87b56&is=66b729d6&hm=9060e2f2c3cc8027376e2d05e69e5fddb8e2547d0aba05d2bb3e57322590f864& [08:51:28] "asdasd" my favorite [08:51:32] there used to be a flash based image slideshow there, I’m assuming they got rid of it to put in an html5 one but you might at least want to come up with something to stick there in the meantime [08:52:04] i prefer asdasdasdasd [08:52:09] or perhaps awawa [08:52:51] http://www.huixingtoys.com if you’re curious [08:53:46] [1/2] yeah I wouldn’t really expect much from a site that still has MSN links up [08:53:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1271753348919590953/IMG_4540.png?ex=66b87c1a&is=66b72a9a&hm=90412d875133048da108c45457ea476d99d81bde3083be2d026ce769359fa252& [08:54:07] the more i touch cargo the more i worry about the codebase [08:57:04] there was this one time eptoys.com put up a little gif of a Christmas tree that bounced around your screen sometime in the early 00s [08:57:14] it was present on every single page [08:59:26] https://web.archive.org/web/20030419050022/http://ever-profit.com/english/index.asp we are lucky enough to have it in the wayback machine [09:00:10] sadly they have not done it since [09:01:13] the best part [09:01:18] this was in the middle of April [09:31:29] [1/2] Huixing - as a Russian the three letters `hui` stand out to me [09:31:29] [2/2] hui (alternative spelling huy) sounds exactly like хуй in Russian, which is a swear word and a word for [redacted], go look it up if you really care. [10:07:07] [1/2] my dad somehow found this video and he couldn't stop laughing for 30 min, probably [10:07:07] [2/2] [11:00:51] Should I be worried? I just approved a Russian version of alicesoftru.miraheze.org [11:01:25] no, it should be fine [11:02:03] AliceSoft is very old Japanese game developer, it's just some of their games are adult oriented [11:03:42] Yeah they mentioned that they would follow the NSFW rules, so I think it is serious. I just don'y know much about it [11:05:44] actually, I suppose fandom started shitting itself over that ads analytics article lol [11:06:02] so new purge [11:06:34] There are indeed a lot of requests being made. [11:09:23] is there actually a spike in requests whenever fandom does something? [11:09:31] oh yes [11:09:44] Morning [11:09:46] first I witnessed was october, I think, 2021 [11:10:06] when all polland ball related wikis got banned + monster girls one [11:10:16] lmao i wish there was a graph of this [11:10:27] actually wait maybe google trends [11:10:36] and handful of other wikis about adult games [11:10:43] You can make a graph yourself out of https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue?dbname=&requester=&status=inreview [11:11:12] after that I can remember only november 2023, after mossbag video [11:11:25] 😩 im stupit ive just been going through it page by page counting in my head [11:11:26] Mossbagvideo? [11:11:33] That was just before my time [11:11:40] Why was pollandball banned? [11:12:31] [1/2] mossbag is a youtuber who makes video mostly about Hollow Knight game, he's called its lore master lol [11:12:31] [2/2] its wiki went indie in october and he made a video about that and how shit Fandom is [11:12:35] [1/2] Unfortunately, BFDI/object show/Country Humans/-ball style wikis have resulted in substantial vandalism/moderation issues and policy violations, for our platform. [11:12:35] [2/2] As a result, these type of "high risk of content Policy violation"-wiki's are generally not approved even though we acknowledge that they are started with good intentions. [11:12:40] he even talked to Pizza Tower Wiki admins [11:13:10] they got banned on fandom and thus they run to Miraheze, now they are limited here too [11:13:26] What is BFDI or object show? [11:13:37] Battle for Dram Island [11:13:56] Tbh seems toxic wikis run to Miraheze when FANDOM rejects them [11:14:06] Exactly [11:14:07] well, what do you except? [11:14:20] except nothing [11:14:26] Expect nothing either [11:14:40] At this point, I think they would have to self host or use a paid wiki farm [11:14:53] yeah, that's what they're told now [11:15:12] at this point may as well put up a bulletin board at a local cafe and stir their shit there [11:15:15] Problem is that we're the ones who have to clean up [11:15:20] Miraheze suffered enough w/ reception wikis alone (which also initially started on fandom but got booted) [11:15:25] So we do not approve them. [11:15:32] Self hosting is not hard if you can follow written words [11:15:57] Morning 👋🏻 😴 [11:16:01] MediaWiki's wiki has some good guides when it comes to setting up [11:16:09] thing is, most of these wikis are populated by people who can't even afford a server [11:16:15] Own hardware. [11:16:22] If you have a desktop, you can self host [11:16:25] and they're mostly children [11:16:56] I use my own desktop to host my wikis [11:17:29] yeah sure, but these people are way off behind basic computer literacy [11:17:31] these sorts of people arent interested in running a wiki or website so much as have a chatroom to talk shit in [11:17:40] and that, yeah [11:18:00] I kinda wonder if hosting a wiki on a iPad or Android smart phone is possable [11:18:33] [1/2] On Android, it's possible. [11:18:33] [2/2] On iOS? Nope [11:18:52] Well May be able to jailbreak but I don’t know about that stuff [11:19:00] Would I have to root my smartphone? [11:19:17] [1/2] you know, this is so funny now [11:19:17] [2/2] fandom gets roasted by their investors now, and that happens after they fired half of their paid staff like wiki representatives which would actually go and babysit wikis [11:19:23] Nope, you can access terminal without root [11:21:38] I would use MediaWiki on smartphone as a note taker [11:21:50] 👀 [11:22:06] Would not be supised if vandals are at a all time high [11:23:02] MOSSBAG VIDEO IS NEARING 3 MILLION VIEWS LOL [11:23:08] in less than a year [11:23:27] I like the MediaWiki format enough that I would use it for shopping lists and "what do I need to talk about at the house meetings" lists [11:24:16] I’d just use obsidian or another markdown app [11:24:17] a whole ass mediawiki doesn't seem convenient for justt bullet lists tbb [11:24:37] I still use yellow sticky notes. [11:24:44] The paper ones I mean 😄 [11:24:51] I managed to use MediaWiki to have stuff like TOSes and other stuff I could use static pages for [11:24:52] i just use my brain [11:24:55] and if i forget then so be it! [11:25:09] I would forget most 😄 [11:25:14] You really use post-it notes? [11:25:17] I scribble on paper notes at work yeeah, and use default Notes on phone [11:25:22] Yeah. [11:25:30] I love writing on paper [11:25:30] Also, should I have noodles or sandwiches today? [11:25:47] I write on my computer only [11:25:48] sammiches [11:26:04] The act of writing it down helps me remember better [11:26:57] My shopping list is stuff like "cream chese, butter, bread" or "pho ga noodles x 6" or "chicken, galic, butter" [11:27:29] [1/2] and my outdated tumblr post is still getting notes whoops [11:27:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1271792032138006589/IMG_20240810_142646.jpg?ex=66b8a021&is=66b74ea1&hm=c79c5a10de8859952826249fc1c07412899f127f3ce769ae26e1f1b24917a042& [11:27:38] I'm off. Have a nice afternoon, morning, evening, etc. [11:27:42] I could use MediaWiki even to track what I have eaten and stuff# [11:27:49] byee [11:28:32] > [10/08/2024 21:17] I kinda wonder if hosting a wiki on a iPad or Android smart phone is possable [11:28:36] i might be late, but termux~ [11:28:48] I really like Mediawiki, even more then WordPress [11:29:30] > [10/08/2024 21:27] [1/2] and my outdated tumblr post is still getting notes whoops [11:29:31] linkie? [11:29:45] I really hate the WYSISWYG editor of WordPress, and even the visal editor on MediaWiki, I much prefer the sorce editor [11:30:29] yeah i don't like WYSIWYG editors, because whenever i (inevitably) break something it becomes 100x harder to try to fix it than with a source editor [11:30:58] do you have tumblr? cus my blog is login only [11:31:06] oh nevermind [11:31:13] i technically do, but too lazy to login [11:31:18] I find WYSIWYG editors sloww and clunky vs source ediors [11:31:22] unless if some kind soul reblogged it lol [11:31:27] public reblogs must be visible for everyone tho [11:32:18] Well, yea visual editors are extremely slow for sure, especially using web tech [11:32:19] but I can't trouble shot random reblogs lol [11:33:02] I find the soruce editor easir as well as I learned the basic MediaWiki code [11:33:51] Yea, wikitext isn't hard to learn [11:33:57] Just find ''' ''' more easy to bold stuff or using [[ ]] for links [11:33:57] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/_ [11:34:11] > [10/08/2024 21:33] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/_ [11:34:13] thanks wm-bot [11:34:13] Hey BlankEclair, you are welcome! [11:34:13] [11:34:29] ty [11:34:41] it was either wix or carrd that i looked at in inspect element after i made something and everything was position absolute left:12.83472px and i swore off visual type editors forever [11:35:02] Yes, those are both akward and annoying for me [11:36:26] i would rather type in markdown and use pandoc to convert to docx rather than use ms word or libreoffice write [11:36:56] [1/2] hey did u know. this top bit on old vector is position absolute and the tab parts are float left and float right. and also this entire top bit doesnt affect the content block at all so if u change the height of it u also have to hardcode the content block down by that much [11:36:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1271794410346119249/image.png?ex=66b8a258&is=66b750d8&hm=0ec234a75d435cbe8f8e09ea28d2e47861f1524f2acdb2f7a1b05b51ce890d3f& [11:37:01] I jump to "write right into MediaWiki" [11:37:31] tihi [11:37:46] That sounds annoying [11:38:41] thanks for the useful fun fact I will now do nothing with this information 👍 [11:39:05] 👍 [11:39:08] What part of MediaWiki do you find the most annoying to cusomtize? [11:39:21] now u can look at it and know that everything is balanced on a pile of cards [11:39:22] ooui [11:39:34] if that's a general-shot question... i just realized that i have no idea? [11:40:03] i would've said the footer text, but i figured out that it was editable with a hook (and that the functionality wasn't documented >:() [11:40:40] hmm, perhaps the profiles in Special:Search? i had to write an extension that's a glorified config variable -> hook wrapper [11:41:04] OOUI? Is that the RC thing? [11:41:23] uh i think the javascript-enabled recent changes uses ooui [11:41:28] its all the ui buttons and stuff [11:41:33] iirc ooui is mediawiki's ui library [11:41:42] I found it hard to CSS the link text in the TOC and the tools boxes [11:41:51] [1/2] https://doc.wikimedia.org/oojs-ui/master/demos/ [11:41:52] [2/2] everything here [11:42:23] What do you mean by "the profiles in Special:Search"? [11:42:47] theburningfirethatscorchessouls: https://rainverse.wiki/wiki/Special:Search, the things that say "Content pages", etc [11:43:39] There is so much 😮 [11:43:54] https://files.catbox.moe/gevg23.png [11:44:14] every ooui thing has 50 classes and none of them are particularly meaningful or specific and theres edgecases for all of them and also their css rule selectors are so annoying if im trying not to resort to !important [11:44:37] I have to agree there, I never managed to color the RC stuff [11:44:57] i tried to monkeypatch TitleInputWidget lol [11:45:17] until i noticed that the search was abysmal because a config variable on the server-side wasn't set so i had to ditch it [11:46:24] > [10/08/2024 21:41] I found it hard to CSS the link text in the TOC and the tools boxes [11:46:26] can you elaborate [11:53:19] I tried to color the links white, took ages to find the right selelctor [11:53:56] I use g docs normally since school uses it anyways [11:54:04] wysiwyg though [11:54:12] but oh well, sometimes we're forced to use things [11:54:17] Don’t have ms Office office and libera hurts [11:54:21] tbh i use discord for notes [11:54:28] also, doing a code review for cargo :3 [11:54:37] Oh Jesus [11:54:41] i wonder how it was even approved for miraheze :33 [11:55:00] :33 [11:55:09] Why? [11:55:30] theburningfirethatscorchessouls: code smells, so i want to know to the full extent as to how stinky it is [11:55:38] main toot: https://transfem.social/notes/9wrgjmasn5wv0080 [11:56:22] and i already sent out some patches to gerrit: https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/q/owner:wikimedia@blankeclair.slmail.me [11:57:10] yes ... I suffered here w/ image borders ... [11:57:48] oh my god sweating just thinking about it [11:58:15] there's apparently calendar functionality in cargo... trying to figure out how to use it though [12:09:21] Can’t find the task that added it [12:09:22] Strang [12:10:50] Imagine knowing how to terror [12:10:57] Gerrit* [12:11:05] yaron seems like he can do it well [12:11:14] i'm struggling on adding a date right now... [12:17:43] Laughs in widgets https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T1628#37961 [12:19:40] ahaha [12:19:46] How does Wikipedia have audio file playing? [12:20:37] https://files.catbox.moe/atxj58.png; i love that date [12:21:42] media player extension? [12:22:17] i assume you're talking about https://files.catbox.moe/46r9sf.png right? [12:23:25] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Special:MyLanguage/Extension:TimedMediaHandler maybe [12:25:27] Yes. [12:25:46] bruh i wrote data instead of date, no wonder why it wasn't storing the date [12:26:52] Was it Phonos? [12:27:04] [[mw:Extension:Phonos]] [12:27:04] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:Phonos [12:27:05]

[12:27:28] Maybe [12:28:01] the element is prefixed with mw-tmh- [12:30:38] I have found something amazing [12:30:44] https://chubba.whatuseek.com/ it’s fucking CHUBBA [12:31:56] it uses CHUBBA LOGIC [12:32:09] so it is clearly the best search engine ever concieved [12:44:21] BlankEclair how’s Yaron’s judgment going [12:44:25] I mean cargo cos review [12:44:40] i almost found unused code... but i think it's used [12:45:00] you should see the fruits of my labor soon enough [12:45:37]