[01:48:35] <.labster> I was going to do a Miraheze Meeting this weekend but then I forgot to announce it [01:49:29] <.labster> Actually I don’t know what time people prefer to do those meets [02:26:57] anyone seen zen browser? [02:28:34] seems very interesting https://www.zen-browser.app [02:39:40] [1/2] lovely ui i would say [02:39:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1276370246453952553/yTRDvkq.png?ex=66c947ec&is=66c7f66c&hm=baa4cf0d14c41bd763ee346bad8fbdb799db264d665c347b4457a329190e2096& [02:48:01] I've forgotten that I volunteered to host one once, so I feel you on this [03:13:46] Why did you forget [03:34:58] Why does anyone forget anything? Life gets busy [05:45:36] saw more reports of dating sim (not even full on nsfw) games wikis shutdown on fandom [05:45:58] I'm now wondering if Devilman Wiki will be able to stay [05:46:12] (which I tried to migrate here but failed) [06:29:45] <.labster> We can take dating sim sites here [06:30:12] <.labster> So long as the lolis are really 900 year old vampires of course [08:22:14] Does anyone like sports [08:22:17] I do [08:28:30] (he parted btw) [08:29:39] lol [08:33:53] just in case if anyone from discord would respond [08:34:58] meanwhile me: [08:35:02] > [Wednesday, 7 August 2024] [22.14.23 GMT+10] But yeah if I was offered a free ticket to the Olympics or Wikimania and I could go without extraneous circumstances [08:35:04] > [Wednesday, 7 August 2024] [22.14.26 GMT+10] No fucking question [08:35:05] > [Wednesday, 7 August 2024] [22.14.54 GMT+10] ...do they prevent resale? [08:35:07] > [Wednesday, 7 August 2024] [22.15.04 GMT+10] Wikimania? [08:35:08] > [Wednesday, 7 August 2024] [22.15.08 GMT+10] olympics [08:35:10] > [Wednesday, 7 August 2024] [22.15.18 GMT+10] No idea [08:35:11] > [Wednesday, 7 August 2024] [22.15.23 GMT+10] personally i have negative interest in sports n stuff, so i wonder if i could sell the olympics ticket and pay for wikimania lol [08:41:28] BlankEclair: coming to the next wikimania then? :3 [09:21:42] TheresNoTime: if someone offers me a ticket :3 [10:12:25] [1/3] I've been feeling really off the past few days [10:12:26] [2/3] I did accidentally cause a bit of trouble in the Kinder World server (though they seem to think I was saying items were removed, which is a misinterpretion of what I was saying) [10:12:26] [3/3] I understand that it is overall not a big deal, but my mind is being so horrible about it [10:13:59] It doesn't help that I've recently clocked in that my interests may be harming me, and that it's probably inevitable for any interest I would develop [10:14:42] familiar feeling [10:17:15] [1/3] I feel really terrified of myself [10:17:16] [2/3] I've struggled to consider how my interactions with my interests would look like in other perspectives [10:17:16] [3/3] I feel like I'm being too much, too obsessive [10:18:42] [1/2] try to take a break, found something else to like [10:18:42] [2/2] like, I love a lot of various music, some I'm pretty fixated about, some not but still enjoy [10:19:30] I taking break in fixation in the fear of getting tired of it to death one day lol [10:20:14] I've been distracting myself with a few games and trying to draw things that I've saved in my twitter bookmarks [12:13:46] [1/2] @theoneandonlylegroom i think you manage a wiki about Gigantic, the videogame. [12:13:47] [2/2] Epic Games Store is gifting Gigantic [12:22:30] [1/2] well, I have it on Steam, both original and new [12:22:30] [2/2] thing is, I'm no longer interested in Gigantic, I'm tired of its misfortunes, I just do tech support on wiki [12:23:12] Ok. You are tired of its misfortunes. Then, i will no longer tell you about the game. Is fine [13:29:27] I know that the wiki i have had a hand in got hit with it also aswell as others at the very same time [13:31:58] nah, it takes couple of weeks or months for deleted Fandom wiki to get winded out of Google results [13:32:36] Oh so they do delist it eventually [13:33:11] yeah, cus it basically becomes 404, and search engines just threw out the trash [13:33:57] I’m at least thankful that fandom only nuked our images and left us with the databases since it was a very large complex wiki [13:34:34] there's a small chance wiki got saved on Internet Archive, I assume really small [13:34:55] idk if WikiTeam is still backing up Fandom wikis [13:35:20] plus chance of Wayback Machine screenshots [13:35:28] Doesn’t matter since we just resubmitted all the images and at a better quality too [13:35:36] cool [13:36:14] I've seen one Fandom wiki getting nuked by accident and admins couldn't even retrieve XML of it [13:36:33] Yeah this was an nsfw purge [13:36:46] I know that's NSFW purge now lol [13:36:53] I've seen it in 2021 too [13:37:28] I mean one absolutely harmless wiki got nuked to the ground by Fandom staff w/o any mean to recover lol [13:38:15] very bad moment [13:38:15] wikis that forked from fandom: finally \o/ [13:38:23] wikis that were still on fandom: god damn it /o\ [13:38:33] lmao [13:39:06] Also thanks for setting up the import by the way eclair [13:39:31] i don't remember what the wiki is but you're welcome ^_^ [13:39:44] And the one whose name starts with R for executing the import [13:40:19] reception123? [13:40:22] Yes [13:44:01] We originally were looking at wiki.gg but we didn’t like how hands on they were since we like some control of the creative process [13:44:37] wiki.gg is nearly as limiting as Fandom [13:44:49] That and the game is basically fear and hunger if it was very edgy [13:48:27] From what I gleaned from it which gave us the idea to not go with them is the fact they control pretty much the entire writing process probably good for wiki’s which are very popular and prone to vandalism but not good enough for us who likes to do huge interface revisions [13:50:59] I actually haven't heard of that [13:51:29] I tried to help a very small wiki to wiki.gg and they basically left like blind kittens to deal w/ everything [13:51:42] I got underwhelmed by how things work [13:51:58] If you ever read the terms the wiki is basically reinscribed in wiki.ggs style [13:53:05] But from your experience it seems that we made the right decision [13:54:05] or I'm just spoiled by Miraheze lol [13:54:38] ManageWiki is incredible in the way how much control you have and how much stuff you can change [13:55:22] I had to enable a lot of extensions to get the wiki to work properly out of the box though [13:56:36] Which would have been a nightmare on our only alternative which would have been self hosting [13:57:32] miraheze even lets you add custom hooks for your wiki if you wanted to, which is awesome [13:57:58] So value added [13:58:13] lmao yeah [13:59:09] BlankEclair: we'll let you do anything assuming there's no privacy or security risk tbh. Obviously subject to us having the available knowledge and time to help you. [13:59:45] Also when we get truely settled in and the game is in the final stages of completion and the wiki fully developed how long does immortalizing a stable wiki take? [14:00:15] And at what stage would you recommend that we do that? [14:00:35] As soon as the content on the wiki is mature enough [14:00:41] what's immortalizing a stable wiki? [14:00:58] I assume they mean a DP exemption BlankEclair [14:01:03] oh okay [14:01:23] Basically slow updates due to wiki being mature [14:01:48] you mean when wiki in is in "complete" state? exemption from dormancy can be made [14:02:04] Since the wiki we imported was quite mature outside of background experimentation [14:02:09] can be even locked from further editing, if needed [14:02:47] I mean like a 75% done and anything new doesn’t exist yet [14:04:02] that's completed in my book, but I suggest to check [[Dormancy Policy]] anyway [14:04:02] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Dormancy_Policy [14:04:04]

[14:05:36] still eligible for exemption methinks [14:05:45] I think we will be active enough for the foreseeable future and we also could always refine our wiki further we even have plans for more languages [14:07:54] i feel like our wiki is 90% complete, the rest is maintenance stuff that we're slow chipping away at [14:08:39] Since we have plans for pb-br at the very moment as well as rus/ukr [14:08:41] so far no DPE, but when we have literally nothing to do (no maintenance stuff, and there is nothing to update on the wiki in the near future) then i'll bring up a DPE with the rest of the team [14:09:26] As well as zht and French [14:11:44] So when you find yourself just editing a obscure page every week then it’s time to ask [14:12:16] imo it's more of a personal thing [14:12:32] like, i'd take measures if i can see it hitting the dormancy policy [14:14:39] I think the longest we went without a edit was a month on fandom due to the dev not releasing anything for two months due to a move [14:18:22] And even then there was at least a minor edit every other week anyway I should be sleeping thanks eclair and @theoneandonlylegroom for the advice [14:18:39] you're welcome and me too lol [14:22:44] So eepy [14:22:55] Good morning word [14:22:59] World* [14:24:04] ello [14:24:04] Hey @pixldev [14:24:14] Bonjur [14:24:20] i see that we both make good midnight decisions [14:24:21] Why sleepy? [14:24:37] midnight decisions are brilliant [14:24:50] I was up past midnight watching recordings of talks from DEFCON from over a decade ago [14:24:52] Some of my best or worst decisions have been made at midnight [14:25:01] mwdeploy was one of them [14:25:15] That explains a lot [14:25:26] But seriously defcon talks are super interesting [14:25:31] me when i see that mwdeploy uses the shell to run commands: i hope that everything is escaped [14:25:33] Yup [14:25:54] It doesn't run anything in a context that should be unsafe [14:26:22] but probably not [14:26:39] i know... still triggers my spidey sense though [14:27:44] If you find a vulnerability, report it [14:27:53] But it's probably mostly safe [14:28:23] wiki.wikimedia.cat; nya :3 [14:29:32] I don't offer a bug bounty for the record except a drink [14:29:40] Which I will probably say I owe you [14:29:53] And you should absolutely remind me if we ever meet in person [14:30:22] hell yeah, miraheze-subsidized drink [14:30:44] now this is what the fundraiser money is actually being used on /j [14:32:02] What [14:32:09] what on what? [14:32:14] Who do you not owe a drink [14:32:23] Wiki Wikimedia cat [14:32:35] i don't know, i just saw it in tech ops [14:32:45] probably no one [14:32:50] yaron [14:32:57] Ye [14:32:59] True [14:33:15] Most people here could probably tell me I've promised them a drink I'd pay [14:34:40] Ever planning on going to Wikimania [14:35:01] Yes [14:35:33] Probably 2026 [14:35:38] Don't fancy Kenya [14:36:17] idr if i sent this meme here or not [14:36:18] https://cdn.transfem.social/files/e4ba6bb5-1257-4638-a940-d1341575bcc9.png [14:36:48] Heh [14:37:17] I need to fix my escaping in the scripts I wrote for work today [14:37:24] Before I productionise them [14:39:33] The one I wrote today is mostly trusted input [14:39:46] But yesterdays is full of SQLis [14:42:09] nini, be crime do gay [15:02:48] [1/2] It should have to do with like honey or something like that [15:02:48] [2/2] A honey-based drink [15:07:43] Eh I’ll go for half [15:07:52] Same actually [15:37:34] @rhinosf1 Watching a recording from DEFCON 21 and the speaker says “the big three, google chrome Firefox and internet explorer” im dying [15:37:46] 10 years ago was a different time [16:13:17] https://youtu.be/ngLz1a3KvPk - TL;DW: Discord may be adding more ads soon [16:17:41] [1/2] New captcha format, this one is going to be easy to OCR [16:17:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1276576106094526516/35378063c4d80f6d.png?ex=66ca07a5&is=66c8b625&hm=bc682d911a3fcd9424002e48afb2b7e741a3a2d393fe04d566103bfd46a0b3d4& [16:19:54] Die [16:21:16] https://mullvad.net/en/help/dns-over-https-and-dns-over-tls - here's info on how to set up Mullvad's adblocking DNS service; if it doesn't work, try AdGuard [16:21:35] Pihole would probably work [16:21:40] I should set that up eventually [16:22:13] Eventually discord will be dead and Revolut etc will prevail [16:22:46] Miraheze Matrix when [16:22:57] Or jump back to IRC [16:23:11] Irc is the worst thing since fortnitr [16:23:17] Absolutely not [16:35:28] Embrace IRC [16:58:34] No [16:59:00] Bans from discord to force IRC use [17:22:13] [1/2] been playing that new stardew-like fields of mistria lately, wanted to draw my player character :nomChocoStrawberry: [17:22:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1276592342043725945/mistria_tsuru.png?ex=66ca16c4&is=66c8c544&hm=69c93b1a6aa5602c5524fbde1517e34606db618a7a27bd7cd8274f87ee845372& [17:23:20] i am extremely suceptible to games that are walking around + farming + mining + fishing [17:41:31] teapot [17:44:23] teapot [17:44:44] i threw 100 gold in a well and it spat out a teapot and i was immediately enamored by it [17:48:34] I love this art [17:49:08] love it, I forgor the last time we have arts here [18:34:12] Speaking of [18:34:23] CoreProtect has a unstable build [19:32:14] Gonna copy here https://wikis.world/@PixDeVl/113012936760909014 [19:32:25] Absolute banger music and videos go watch [19:32:31] link [19:34:29] https://youtube.com/@derivakat [19:36:35] [1/2] > content creator [19:36:35] [2/2] :squint: [19:36:55] Not wrong [19:37:08] the dsmp memories crawled out of the back of my brain and jumpscared me [19:37:14] LMAO [19:37:20] I’m listening to Voices right now [19:40:06] [1/2] Cool [19:40:06] [2/2] BTW, shameless self-promotion, but feel free to check out the wiki we have been building lately [19:40:19] ooo? [19:40:38] is it the wiki.gg one [19:41:28] I could load only one video rip lol [19:41:32] not vibing tbh [21:58:02] Ye [22:53:07] world building is hard [22:58:01] <.labster> I don't know, with most of the GMs I've talked to, world building is easier than story [23:04:48] another wiki editor was (unhealthily) checking if the fandom version of the rainverse wiki was still indexed on search engines [23:04:49] she noticed that a page was vandalised, so i imported the dump provided by fandom to figure out more [23:05:23] looks like it was taken down for transphobia + vandalism: https://cdn.transfem.social/files/4571585e-e866-4fa5-ba4c-e3b9f07f04f7.png [23:18:30] You're talking to the guy who put a rampaging herd of 30-50 feral hogdogs in a game because I thought it was funny [23:21:42] 🫡 [23:22:55] I admit part of it may be when you're like me and you enjoy learning about watching and exposing yourself to lore and stories made by professionals and YouTubers and famous DMs, anything you make is mentally compared to an unreasonably high standard [23:23:22] I find the worldbuilding bit infinitely easier than the story bit [23:24:24]