[00:02:21] Oh damn FR? [00:04:14] Who [00:16:38] i hate when that happens [00:18:50] accidentally open visual studio instead of visual studio code and my cpu resources go along with dubstep [03:10:40] cohost. tumblr alternative [03:55:39] we have Wikipedia as well, all we need now is PediaWiki [03:55:58] damn, hope archiveteam gets on that [03:57:49] I always get confused with mediawiki and wikimedia when I see the names thrown around in various places [03:58:03] like why can't it just be slightly differentiated 😭 [04:30:16] [1/2] it was whole social media platform, closer to twitter [04:30:16] [2/2] they will give export to users before shutdown [04:31:07] adless nonprofit cross of twitter w/ tumblr [05:16:52] Hello guys [05:16:57] Have a question [05:17:58] don't ask to ask, just ask [05:18:13] When there's a 'module' of a template in WP, their equivalent would be a page ending in JavaScript (.jsc), right? [05:18:59] Module is a page w/ Lua code [05:19:07] If I don't want to make a module template in my wiki, a 'Template:example.jsc' will do the trick? [05:19:11] w/ `Module:` prefix [05:19:22] oh. [05:19:27] no, JS and Lua are completely different things [05:19:58] But how would I recreate something in Lua to css and jsc? [05:20:12] and JS code works only from `MediaWiki:Common.js` page [05:20:27] well, learn Lua 🤷 [05:21:32] Tried, but was confusing, made me installing a OS which I was unable to understand, and the Lessons of Lua on YT is really confusing. [05:22:01] well neither can I help [05:22:26] I avoid using modules unless they're very stable and don't have dependencies [05:31:45] T_T [05:31:49] Ok thank you [09:05:35] Yeah, their announcement said they'll prepare full exports for people soon. [09:06:07] It's sad but I'm not entirely surprised. It didn't seem super profitable [09:06:22] They were bleeding money, too [09:07:14] People have been scared of Tumblr's financial situation, but they're at least more capable of generating revenue [09:08:37] <.labster, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> JS code also works from Gadgets [09:08:48] is tumblr still particularly used these days? [09:08:55] last I heard it was sinking into oblivion [09:09:29] <.labster> Tumblr has never been good but they torpedoed themselves by banning all adult content [09:09:59] and I wonder if they ever actually recovered after that [09:10:08] even marginally [09:15:38] it's still alive, after nsfw ban fiasco Yahoo sold it to a company which owns Wordpress, for hilariously low price [09:15:49] new owners started untangling the spaghetti [09:16:14] <_arawynn> It's still being used, I'm one of them [09:16:14] they even allowed light stuff/erotica [09:16:22] but it's still not the same [09:16:38] certainly it will never get to the days of Oncler hysteria lol [09:18:12] the was a controversy around the ceo guy being a fucking weirdo, and some people jumped to cohost [09:18:49] at the same time, a lot of people hated cohost over different weird shit, I kept seeing posts about that on tumblr [09:19:43] AT THE SAME TIME boy, the amount of porn bots - and porn blogs w/ real people behind them is ridiculous lmao [09:20:06] they never left [09:20:16] <_arawynn> There also was drama because a moderator was banning at least one trans person over bullshit reasons [09:20:29] yeah, that tied to ceo too [09:20:44] all places suck 🤷 [09:20:57] or you mean cohost? [09:21:07] <_arawynn> And oh yes, the porn bots are probably gonna be the last active accs at some point [09:21:53] <_arawynn> I've no idea what cohost is supposed to be XD I stick to my little corner [09:22:09] neocities is the little corner I'd go for if anything [09:22:19] true [09:25:31] been tempted to make neocities for some time already, but the - idk what to post over there lol [09:26:01] unless I magically start drawing a web comic [09:26:15] I rely on tumblr and sheezy.art for art needs [09:33:48] it's almost the miraheze of the market in that sense tbh, you can do a lot but you need some sort of plan and a smattering of tech ability to make the most of it [09:39:40] [1/2] I'm not afraid of building a site, luckily I do have experience, it's just the question of its substance and fear of it becoming a chore [09:39:41] [2/2] obviously w/ a wiki I know what to add lol [09:45:09] I'm not a personal blog type of person too [09:45:32] like, aside from sharing things I like [09:50:42] [1/6] Oh yeah Predstrogen. The controversy around that was that completely sfw pictures of trans people were being marked "mature" [09:50:42] [2/6] And when I say SFW, I mean fully clothed, totally normal. [09:50:42] [3/6] Then Predstrogen, at some point, made a joke-threat about hoping the CEO gets into an over the top accident involving an exploding car and hammers being thrown everywhere. [09:50:43] [4/6] Then she was perma-banned. [09:50:43] [5/6] Then the CEO showed up on her Twitter thread about it and revealed the usernames of her side blogs, which were admittedly NSFW, but that's not unusual for Tumblr. [09:50:43] [6/6] Meanwhile, actual users have spent years dealing with genuine death threats and doxxing with little help. [09:51:51] So people were MAD about the double standard. If you're gonna ban someone over a cartoony threat, you should also be dealing with the users making genuine actionable threats [09:52:07] yeah, it was fucked [09:53:12] for example the dev of dashboard unfucker script, who's trans too, left to cohost because of that [09:56:08] YEAH [09:56:11] I remember that [09:56:35] Honestly the CEO handled the whole situation horribly [09:58:33] related: https://kitsunes.club/notes/9xzba6hew7 [09:59:34] <_arawynn, replying to mintybingus> Ugh, even worse than what I remembered [12:08:53] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_Star_Trek_Into_Darkness_debate [12:30:56] [1/3] Lua mention! Been using Lua since creating a wiki around 3 weeks ago and it's pretty intuitive. I've been learning with the help of the Code Copilot GPT. Here are some free resources if you feel up to learning the language: [12:30:57] [2/3] *Book: [[wikibooks:Lua Programming]] [12:30:57] https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Lua_Programming [12:30:57] [3/3] *Free compiler: https://onecompiler.com/lua/42rruxhuw (No downloads and installs needed) [12:30:58] [12:31:59] I usually use it when I need to write complicated conditional logic and loops cuz of the auto indents eheh [12:34:35] Lua is definitely powerful [12:34:44] For someone coming from other languages [12:34:49] A pain at times [12:36:03] Samesies, what I like about it is that the keywords are so pseudocode-y so the learning curve is smooth-sailing for me [12:36:19] Why does it start at one 😭 [12:36:37] The colen syntax for some functions is odd [12:36:42] But with docs it works [12:37:40] Yeah I've never used that proactively outside of what code I got searching around [12:38:32] REAL, took me for a frustrating ride for a bit there [12:40:09] especially considering Lua's all about them tables and arrays [12:40:12] Lua is werid [12:40:38] hehe condition and ifTrue or ifFalse [12:40:40] https://tenor.com/view/lua-luaa-roblox-lua-roblox-best-language-language-gif-27133467 [12:40:52] What [12:41:00] workaround for no ternary operators in lua [12:41:09] one-line conditional [12:41:27] Example [12:41:46] // Convert autoCelebrateBirthday (a boolean) to a string of "1" or "0" [12:41:53] autoCelebrateBirthday and "1" or "0" [12:42:10] in js: autoCelebrateBirthday ? "1" : "0" [12:42:19] in python: "1" if auto_celebrate_birthday else "0" [12:42:38] oh wow, I thought that only worked if you set it to a variable [12:42:59] like `variable = condition and ifTrue or ifFalse` [12:43:03] just make sure the ifTrue part isn't falsey lol [12:43:20] empty strings in lua aren't falsey, which feels kinda weird [12:44:09] cuz nil is our savior [12:44:21] yeah it can be handy at times [12:44:46] but coming from other high-level languages like python and javascript, it's certainly odd behavior :p [12:45:02] php having "0" be falsey is still >~< to me though [12:45:33] True, it really saves your skin when it comes to template parameters tho [12:45:50] lol yeah [12:46:18] I was mindblown at `if variable then` [12:46:21] Lua has too much power [12:47:40] https://tenor.com/view/dogecoin-dogecoinmoon-doge-meme-huglove-gif-21089092 [12:47:49] it's giving ^ [12:54:22] can you mine bitcoin using the scribunto debug console? [13:03:09] Python: `ifTrue if condition else ifFalse` [13:03:24] yep [13:38:37] [1/2] boy I sure love disambiguation pages ... [13:38:37] [2/2] [13:38:45] just added two new entries lmao [13:50:09] /cries in red links and article stubs/ [13:51:25] The day I figured out one-line conditionals is the day all my code got 90% better they're so cool. As stupid as it is though I got so used to the lua syntax that now I also use the same in js lol. [13:53:43] i, too, fucking love ternary operators [14:35:24] Bored. [19:00:48] Mental breakdown starter pack [19:44:05] https://youtube.com/shorts/FaLfWuoflpw?si=XDJYPF6Nuqe_0_LS [20:50:57] made my first meta edit in like 20 days [20:51:08] man i have been soooo burnt out on everything .-. [22:26:51] did you know the dnc have a discord now. You can interact with dnc staff or even kamala campaign staffer [22:38:38] I'd hate to moderate that [23:28:12] https://tenor.com/view/no-gif-6533142189269812111 [23:28:24] Oh that's moderation hell right there