[00:15:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to notaracham> Hell is far too generous
[01:00:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob, replying to pixldev> that ball is how beginner's heads spin of confusion because of the hundred of lua modules that have wikipedia templates, and the template doesn't even work with all the modules!
[01:26:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob> wdyt https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/901057109951647754/1283234881316454410
[04:30:32] <BlankEclair>	 pixdevl: i poked reese, claire.obl.ong is still under review >_<
[07:26:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] silly question but I only recently discovered <template> tag
[07:26:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] so, they can be used like parameter-less wiki templates? but they aren't used nowadays? are they considered to be poor now?
[07:27:37] <BlankEclair>	 didn't know that existed
[07:28:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> and when I'm trying to google usage examples it always mention js so I'm puzzled
[07:28:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> like on W3C et all
[07:29:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> because I don't really get why it needs js?
[07:30:00] <BlankEclair>	 ...
[07:30:04] <BlankEclair>	 are we talking about mediawiki or html
[07:30:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> HTML
[07:30:22] <BlankEclair>	 yeah no wonder i was confused lol
[07:30:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> if it was wiki related I'd post in general lol
[07:33:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> on a second thought ... Imy brain currently is not comprehending well ...
[07:34:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> I don't really see what it would be used for
[07:34:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> It's like a div display none ?
[07:34:33] <BlankEclair>	 related video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lG7U3fuNw3A
[07:34:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> it's strange because I thought it's for things that appear on all or majority of pages?
[07:35:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I don't get the deal w/ hiding
[07:35:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <awing_ding> It's like html you don't display for user but use with your js
[07:35:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> maybe there's different element that should function like a template ...
[07:36:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> js has to be avoided tbh
[07:36:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> the less the better, and if it's needed there should be some kind of fallback for those who disable it
[07:38:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to BlankEclair> I'm in a ridiculous minority who doesn't video essays lol
[07:38:49] <BlankEclair>	 oh ok
[07:39:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I didn't mean to attack sorry
[07:39:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] but typos live me lol
[07:39:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] *doesn't like
[07:40:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> *LOVE ME
[07:40:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> god
[07:43:20] <BlankEclair>	 issokay
[07:43:34] <BlankEclair>	 one way the template elemnt can be used is to parse html
[07:45:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [1/2] that's what I thought, like I can have a static "sidebar" web page which is normally non accessible but is parsed (transcluded?) on all normal pages
[07:45:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> [2/2] what mediawiki does to mf lmao
[07:52:20] <BlankEclair>	 how to say that you have no life without saying that you have no life: ^
[07:55:31] <BlankEclair>	 and that sidebar example reminds me of old sites like http://walkthrough.starmen.net/mother3/ and https://bluestariz.web.fc2.com/zentai.html
[09:24:45] <BlankEclair>	 https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/extensions/CampaignEvents/+/1072155; uhh did they get the phab task id right?
[09:25:26] <BlankEclair>	 lol no
[09:25:38] <BlankEclair>	 found the original task: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T372691
[09:38:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> ah, starmen.net ...
[12:07:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> Dang
[12:07:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Also my username has the l first
[12:07:47] <BlankEclair>	 i thought i adjusted for that- guess not lol, oops
[12:07:50] <BlankEclair>	 but yeah, dang
[13:07:38] <BlankEclair>	 https://web.archive.org/web/20001203144400id_/http://www.oraclehumor.com/TextIndex/HumorText/errors.txt
[14:06:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gl0v3> [1/2] glorious pic from saturdays game 🤩😍
[14:06:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <gl0v3> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1283428428963516416/IMG_0246.jpeg?ex=66e2f55e&is=66e1a3de&hm=9ae9e3b26307d45feb65be63783413faa9a1242962c8337ab76f5352412ccf9c&
[17:28:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @suzuneu huh https://wikis.world/@legoktm/113119561909386911, did you know this?
[17:53:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov, replying to notaracham> That's going to be an amusement to read
[21:12:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272> @agentisai welcome back
[21:43:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AOtnM-FC7Yo - this was recommended to me
[21:45:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realcastle> [1/2] the mapping community on fandom is getting purged
[21:45:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realcastle> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1283543966196957257/image.png?ex=66e360f8&is=66e20f78&hm=7a1d850c89414f1b250ccb7d281e11b90b88a9fd43ad4005c3d0b670a747fdb5&
[21:47:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <princessellierose> sounds like a fandom moment
[21:49:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to realcastle> oh yes, don't you remember that one mapper on the PBW server who was wary of that?
[21:54:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> anything that's not fandom's brand safe increasingly narrowing domain is going to get canned
[21:54:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> sooner or later
[22:14:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realcastle, replying to agentisai> i am assuming he talked to you about it?
[22:15:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> any community on fandom that wants to stay running should probably make scrapes/backups just in case
[22:15:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <suzuneu, replying to pixldev> i didn't know what
[22:18:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai, replying to realcastle> Yeah
[22:20:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realcastle> [1/2] if i recall
[22:20:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realcastle> [2/2] miraheze placed a hold on the creation of countryball wikis
[22:21:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64, replying to realcastle> Indeed
[22:21:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to suzuneu> I need to talk to kunal about that
[22:22:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Either on discord later or next time I see him in person, probably after next weekend
[22:22:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> creation of that sort of wiki is something I'd think about if it had dedicated supervision from cvt I guess
[22:22:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> by think about I mean raise with others
[22:23:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> more than anything, there's a moratorium on them because of the ability to attract incompetent administration and users
[22:24:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> if it can be executed with competence then I'm sure there'd be no issue in approving
[22:27:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to agentisai> [1/2] This is the big thing, this genre and spinoffs have been a huge sink of volunteer time in the past. 
[22:27:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to agentisai> [2/2] Any community planning to move should have a well thought-out moderation and local content policy, and proof of already having a well executed policy is a great start.
[22:28:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> there's a tough line to sell for sure
[22:29:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> honestly, even Polandball Wiki proper back then probably wouldn't have ticked all the boxes
[22:36:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272, replying to agentisai> I have one question what made you want to come back to miraheze agent since last I saw you left and I want to know what brought you back unless your not willing to tell then that’s ok.
[22:37:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> I felt bad for the project which I had devoted a lot of years to and some users asked me to reconsider maybe helping out so after much thought, I decided to return
[22:38:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> The time I spent out helped me reflect on a lot of things and helped me see where I could improve so I hope to not repeat some of the same mistakes I made in the past
[22:38:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272, replying to agentisai> Oh wow
[23:13:04] <Mintle>	 hey agentisai
[23:13:13] <Mintle>	 glad to see you :)