[00:50:52] https://hihayk.github.io/scale this is such a cool website [00:51:31] https://minkos.lol/ip [00:52:16] How is telepedia for you [00:52:37] https://css-filter.netlify.app - this website as well [00:53:24] I think the pickaxe icon is to mine out the vandals or something like striking a pickaxe against rocks or vandal filled areas [00:55:53] We’re probably gonna change it to 🧹 [00:56:03] I think it’s better [00:56:12] As it does give off a sweeping sense [00:56:20] Follows the logic of the enwiki admjn mop [00:56:21] Instead of being a miner [00:56:31] Because the pikaxe isn’t a cleaning tool [00:56:42] Or vandal stoping it’s a tool of destruction [00:56:46] For rocks [00:56:47] > Wikipedia's administrative tools are often likened to a janitor's mop, leading to adminship being described at times as being "given the mop". Just like a real-world janitor might have keys to offices that some other workers are excluded from, admins have some role-specific abilities, but – also like a real-world janitor – they're not more important than the other editors [00:56:55] this is why [00:57:01] Best to change it now [00:57:21] As a pickaxe doesn’t fit due to it’s destructive nature of its use [00:57:48] As this is what its main purpose is [00:57:52] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1287216260844753008/image0.gif?ex=66f0bd0f&is=66ef6b8f&hm=173388813777ffaac234adc77f7eff05d9a64dbde50afc58e8d99f5e0019218f& [00:57:55] As fun as the visuals of bashing vandals in [00:57:59] and [00:58:09] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1016598848212320266/1278167608788516904/1AssafM.gif [00:58:21] yea [00:58:32] waiting on a discord admin rn [00:58:40] I technically can do it [00:58:55] but not really in my scope [00:59:15] Brb running for discord admin /j [00:59:29] any delays must be exterminated [00:59:36] authorized for that specific icon change [00:59:39] I'm out for the night [00:59:52] oki! [01:00:41] Huh [01:00:43] Not letting me [01:00:49] Will try when I get home [01:00:53] Maybe a mobile thing [02:08:43] [1/2] Make those Miraheze Icon [02:08:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1287234092307578880/caa896c2befbb080.png?ex=66f0cdab&is=66ef7c2b&hm=d8b819d5294142d486bca27afd79a03bdd1c8113f41402a693e27db4319236eb& [02:31:08] make donor role icon honey [02:36:34] Icon? [08:11:40] [1/2] I guess I won't finish that post, it feels like a waste of time [08:11:41] [2/2] and tumblr being the only venue where I can do big text doesn't help, cus ultimately it sucks [09:51:19] So my co-admin on the fandom wiki we run let me know that, for whatever reason, her captions weren't appearing under her images [09:51:27] I genuinely could not figure out why [09:51:40] but, somehow, adding |thumb| fixed it??? [10:02:44] that's the point of thumb [10:02:58] caption won't display otherwise [10:03:18] as far as I remember ... [10:40:40] Why? [13:31:26] [1/2] nobody else uses the buddy lists on IRC these days? [13:31:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1287405902953185360/42e310a6615a9286.png?ex=66f16dae&is=66f01c2e&hm=b378f2508d75cea495fe436a158abb4ef00a277f2fcaf873c7ac3c3b8ae66c4c& [13:34:25] I do [13:34:38] if you use irc then probably [13:35:02] I'm very slowly becoming tempted to reenter irc or something like matrix [13:35:09] I treat it as "notify when user goes offline and auto-accept DCC from this user" [13:35:11] which alas don't necessarily blend together too well in all cases [13:35:46] I am seriously considering switching to Quassel as my IRC which would mean I am probably not going to be on discord [13:38:08] does it do discord, or [13:39:44] I use Hexchat for my IRC client [13:39:50] Most of the discords I am in that I give a fuck about have bridges to XMPP/IRC/Matrix [13:40:28] For me it's XMPP > IRC > Matrix > Telegram > Discord [13:40:31] Why do people use IRC? [13:41:39] Por que no? [13:41:47] Huh [13:43:34] People use IRC because it's been around for a while and it just works [13:44:50] I would not be surprised if discord pulled the plug in the next few years when the investors realize it's no longer profitable selling all your data. Libera and Quakenet sure will get more lively [13:47:01] Doubt it [13:47:17] There is Revolt (i think thats what its called), or Guild [13:47:37] My point is should discord dissappear, there are several services like it that are free that would get more popular [13:47:57] I doubt irc will see a massive influx of users if discord were to dissappear [13:48:16] Thats like going back to horse drawn carriages if ford stops making cars [13:49:26] Guilded is in a dump I think [13:50:07] Rip [13:51:18] Totally offtopic of the topic were on but you should totally watch Agatha All Along [13:51:26] Caught the first two episodes last night and it is brilliant [13:51:46] I am not too worried about Disord shutting down within the next 2 years [13:52:00] I think my domain will exipire before Discord shuts down [13:52:00] original irc will go obsolete except for bare minimalists and the like, discord has already trailblazed an expectation of style even if the replacing protocols will resemble some form of irc [13:52:23] replacements will look more like guilded or revolt, though it probably won't be them necessarily [13:52:28] I hope guilded won't anyway [13:52:49] might be attempts to chatify everything (ew) [13:53:00] discord was experimenting with that for a while iirc [13:53:07] We are going to do an experiment with Quassel right now [13:53:49] irc might well get more users for a time anyway if discord collapses though, there will be market confusion until one or more options fill the void some time after [13:54:03] Discords downfall is that it tries to be your 'one stop shop' for everything [13:54:07] I just want efficient communication [13:54:08] I feel I would be in a bad place if Discord shuts down as I rely on it for Taerel writers [13:54:20] it looks at the entities that actually manage to be everything and tries to catch the trend, yeah [13:54:25] i don't need stupid bots that generate AI art or any off that bullshit [13:54:37] I just use it as a more accessible irc with formatting I like a bit more [13:54:47] (but I guess that in itself isn't Discord's fault) [13:54:58] The IRC channels I am in besides one are dead [13:55:02] no ai, none of that profile crap (a little for bling okay, making the profile literally illegible? wtf discord), all that other junk [13:55:37] All I need: text and VoIP that just works, decent access control, offline history, the ability to send files in chat, the ability to send multi-line messages, PM system, easy for people with a single braincell to use so I can talk to them [13:55:42] accessible in terms of the actual communities I access I should clarify - no sense of loyalty to it at all [13:56:01] if those communities were based on irc I would have no reason [13:56:23] I need lage freelaning commuities that do not care about my low budget [13:56:48] you just described discord [13:56:53] But I kinda do not care if that is Discord, Guilded, IRC or the like [13:57:59] originalauthority: can I have that all and have the ability to bring my own client (open standard) and have a FOSS backend [13:58:17] This is why I hang out on XMPP [13:59:18] you don't need your own client with discord lol because the app doesn't suck [14:00:12] I mean you can try and pitch the whole irc thing to your hearts content but it doesn't change the fact that IRC is legacy software these days and people using it are few and far between [14:23:03] Libera has quite a large userbase but the average IRC user is a bit different now compared to then [14:24:33] I use IRC and Discord at the same time, am I strange? [14:24:51] No. [14:26:57] I am in a few places that bridge 4-5 real time chats, and I would be on all of them at the same time. Leading people to ask "is Felenov a bot?" [14:27:14] no you're just cloning yourself [14:27:30] Fair, I am in here with two clients on one desktop right now. [14:28:03] We, are Felenov [14:28:28] Speaking of, Quassel lets you clone yourself in very cursed ways [14:31:36] [1/2] so far, I like this [14:31:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1287421044654739466/49417e167ef769a6.png?ex=66f17bc8&is=66f02a48&hm=ed53d6eaed0556c79825679ac3c5d87c28aecf0cde5e3f02fd730112f12c7458& [14:32:43] Looks nice [14:34:18] Minetest has quite a few IRC channels (offical and non offical) [14:35:53] The thing with Quassel is it forces a table view so a lot of screen real estate goes out the door when there are long usernames [14:43:31] If Quassel works for me, I will move the core over to one of my clusters [14:49:47] What is diffant beween all those IRC clients? [14:51:39] IceChat is a local clinet, Quassel is a split clinet (It has a core and a user facing component, the core can be online 24/7 and the client(s) can attach and detach and still have full context) that basically gives you all the advantages of a boucner without the BS [15:19:38] May look into that [15:59:33] mobile violently begs to differ [16:00:15] and I'm sympathetic to, though don't endorse betterdiscord as the client in a lot of ways is plain meh [16:00:55] especially when discord decides it wants to do something dumb and you're sol because discord knows best and you don't get much of a choice, unless you pay for nitro of course [16:02:11] so maybe in most cases you don't need your own client with discord but having the choice would not be a bad thing for the end user and that is why people split off, because it's a proprietary app that doesn't care for you to have that choice [16:02:37] mobile users deserve no love, honestly [16:02:42] and if it goes really belly up or decides it doesn't like you, then you're really sol [16:04:14] anything worth doing is worth doing on desktop is how I operate, however I am sympathetic to mobile as a major market that deserves similar if not the same liberties to desktop and I find it useful to check on things portably or do quick things, so 'fuck mobile' is not an attitude I can support [16:04:40] sadly mobile usage takes roughly 60% cus I barely get to sit by laptop in the evening [16:04:58] accept its disadvantages for sure but no reason to actively exclude or make worse [16:05:05] and discord seems to ween towards 'make worse' [16:05:51] aside from communication, I think streaming is a good feature [16:06:00] the one guy who came in asking about how to explicitly screw mobile users is a great example; you're not compelled to design or support for them, but you're being a dick by looking to actively make it worse [16:06:28] lol yeah, I remember that [16:06:46] raidarr the armchair prevailed over raidarr being professional that day [16:09:20] ornery raidarr [16:09:41] banned for harassment [16:09:59] What I miss [16:10:55] two years of lore [16:12:31] Dang [16:13:03] Ive been reading an enwiki article about the guy who said maybe we should wash our hands between autopsies and delivering children [16:13:16] This is not a joke [16:13:23] Also def con recordings are fun [16:13:42] Also need to start reading a new book I got yesterday [16:13:55] Seems very interesting [16:16:31] too radical [16:22:02] Actually [16:22:13] Most people mocked and ignored him at the time [16:22:40] Only a few years after his death was the germ theory introduced to provide reasoning [16:22:51] https://mastodon.social/@HannahClover/113155988018554702 [16:23:09] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ignaz_Semmelweis [16:23:19] Interesting read [17:28:55] @raidarr probs on the new essay [17:37:48] I think we should write more stuff encouraging people to be involved in meta [18:23:48] interesting [19:37:38] [1/2] ion know math class might be a bit more fun now [19:37:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1287498059990696017/Capture2-1727032942830.png?ex=66f1c382&is=66f07202&hm=b12996cd0a298c04274c28f4228707855b0f3f6e2df98b23b25b96969d3b6e9a& [19:41:12] [1/2] Oh. [19:41:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1287498956577968239/e93db747ac80f7b8.png?ex=66f1c457&is=66f072d7&hm=db0501cff51c52690b87f1516171df685992680e789a9a917d4ab7914fe84a8c& [20:17:53] . [20:21:41] Tbh discord is just comfy tbh [20:27:38] guilded couldve been amazing if roblox didnt buy it out i feel [20:29:05] or at least if roblox didnt make a roblox account mandatory to have an account [20:45:00] Did they? [20:46:44] [1/2] indeed [20:46:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1287515450351161344/image.png?ex=66f1d3b4&is=66f08234&hm=b66722dccedf070b1403e002f3210ac2d4e6ab56fb208551602bc87e8193f04a& [20:46:56] signup only allows for roblox [20:47:20] aren't they shutting guilded down? [20:47:32] or am i just digging out random rumours i saw on the internet [20:48:13] lmao who thought it's a good idea [20:48:21] roblox has their star creators server on there, doubt theyd do it [20:48:38] theyre adding more roblox specific features too [20:49:34] Mad that roblox can even afford that [20:49:47] I thought it was just a bunch of 6 year old kids running about [20:50:03] Plenty of older people play it [20:50:06] For some reason [20:50:06] I mean, it's not not that [20:50:16] But it's also more than you'd expect [20:50:18] I mean look at how many wikis we have about Roblox [20:50:23] Some are actually really good [20:51:02] I know some people who’ve been playing it since before around when I born lmao [20:51:07] Kinda goves me bad vibes [20:51:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1287516594725195877/roblox_ceo_dating_prediction.png?ex=66f1d4c5&is=66f08345&hm=ea228f1d13a2717f2db00f4a8912e11119ccca48fee56c7ebfaa112f3cb460a4& [20:51:27] Shooketh [20:51:43] Pretty low bar if you're going on roblox to meet a partner [20:51:56] probably until 2020 it was a mostly children game [20:51:58] I would be pretty embarrased telling people i met my partner on roblox (no hate if anyone here has but) [20:52:19] Roblox has delivered on the inherent thing that makes legos work + what Second Life had always wanted to be [20:52:48] Dead-simple, user created content, that can be consumed by others and potentially even turn a coin or two on your behalf [20:56:49] I guess [20:57:04] I don't personally play, but I get why there's a billion and one knock-off roblox games [20:57:08] Maybe they could make it less child like visually? That might help [20:57:17] I think that contributes a lot to the stigma [20:57:53] But then again idk maybe its the marketing? The Sims looks pretty much the same and it seems to be normal playing that in your 20s [21:00:59] Please tell me this is fakw [21:01:26] it's real, iirc it was from last year's rdc [21:06:24] boblox :thumbsup: [21:07:07] Dang it ripcord [21:07:18] no caseoh thumbsup [21:09:23] roblox has good games except the shitty games for children [21:18:09] that's what i get for waiting for the mobile app to become better :xsob: [21:19:48] tho i haven't played roblox since a while [21:19:57] The mobile app never gets better 😔 [21:44:27] it's real but you have to do ID verification to get it [21:44:36] you also need ID verification to unlock their voice chat [21:44:59] I have a friend who tried and apparently you have to like hold up paper with your roblox username then also hold your government id and do it on camera [21:45:29] and then they keep that forever and then if you try to use your real name as your roblox username they detect it because they know from your ID and make you change it [21:45:59] if anyone is actually using roblox to date that is so cringe [21:46:32] also so much stuff on roblox that should be censored is uncensored and so much innocent stuff is censored its so weird [21:54:30] yup [21:55:39] [1/3] POV Roblox: [21:55:39] [2/3] Pn game: 👍 [21:55:40]