[03:22:50] Tomorrow my Nitro expires :'((( [03:29:18] awh :((( [04:54:27] Rip well unless you can renew I can see the problem [05:56:06] Garbage [07:28:09] rhinosf1: when was the weather not "garbage" for you? [08:17:31] Rarely [13:19:23] hell nah paying for discord and I don't even have credit card [15:05:37] @raidarr thoughts on a meta site notice for the rff? [15:05:52] PiscesXYZ: hi, btw I switched from IceChat to a different platform [15:06:29] approve [15:06:39] however- [15:06:51] we need to figure out some sort of system for how and when we prop those things up [15:07:09] maybe we should wait for a bit of engagement before boosting, which is a bit chicken before the egg but a bandaid for that precedent issue [15:10:38] K [15:11:31] we really ought to come up with a policy/guideline for how announcements are applied [15:11:54] the practice previously was very conservative, we are now looser about announcing things both discord and wikiside, and not entirely consistent when we boost things such as rfps [15:12:37] yeah, I was about to say, we never would've advertised something like this previously [15:13:01] It’s decided by a council of ferrets playing around and pressing buttons in our minds [15:13:20] if the intuit is announcing all interesting community discussions, we should really be having a dedicated area or process for when we do it [15:13:37] which like so much else comes down to a collection of us sitting down and figuring it out [15:13:52] so that's never happening is what you're saying \:P [15:14:08] so far no [15:14:29] we have Miraheze [[Meta/Events]] by the way [15:14:29] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Meta/Events [15:14:31] I'm increasingly tempted to open up 1984 and make a cabal, or something [15:14:43] too much shit that's gone unfigured for too long [15:15:28] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Miraheze_Meta/Events for those of you on discord [15:15:44] yeah, that page was part of my redesign to try and promote more community engagement [15:15:46] I mean [15:15:49] It’s a good book [15:15:53] A classic of literature [15:16:13] 1984 is doubleplusgood [15:16:35] Wait until you hear about 1985 [15:16:35] Yes yes [15:17:50] What do you mean? 1986 is the next book [15:17:57] 6 comes after 4 [15:18:27] I had the idea of a newspeak wiki (simple english wikipedia in newspeak with no thinkcrime and thinkpol gets ROLL) but plusbig problem is the wrongthink [15:18:29] Of course! How could such an important fact slip past me? [15:19:32] Bro’s still in single think [15:24:02] 2 + 2 = 5 [15:26:07] I think that's pretty much what DeeM is proposing so we should probably just work on improving that draft [15:27:07] the intent is good, definitely need a structure for it [16:05:40] 𝗜'𝗹𝗹 𝗵𝗲𝗹𝗽 𝟭𝟬𝗽𝗲𝗼𝗽𝗹𝗲 𝘁𝗼 𝗲𝗮𝗿𝗻 $250k 𝘄𝗶𝘁𝗵𝗶𝗻 𝗮 𝘄𝗲𝗲𝗸 𝗯𝘂𝘁 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝘄𝗶𝗹𝗹 𝗽𝗮𝘆 𝗺𝗲 𝟭𝟬% 𝗼𝗳 𝘆𝗼𝘂𝗿 𝗽𝗿𝗼𝗳𝗶𝘁 𝘄𝗵𝗲𝗻 𝘆𝗼𝘂 𝗿𝗲𝗰𝗲𝗶𝘃𝗲 𝗶𝘁. 𝗡𝗼𝘁𝗲 𝗼𝗻𝗹𝘆 𝗶𝗻𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗲𝘀𝘁𝗲𝗱 � [18:04:09] oh wonderful https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:Cocopuff2018 [18:04:15] 'skywiki' he's calling it now [18:04:27] can someone refer darrel to ^ [18:05:50] do not register there if you value pii [18:06:13] [1/2] hmmmm [18:06:13] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1288562218337566791/2024-09-25_21_05_51.png?ex=66f5a295&is=66f45115&hm=a0f24d4cfa9d9710c681a4ba8c86e27dcde7c4c152228c97c232a01a86bd89f4& [18:06:14] heh, I don't even access those wikis without a VPN [18:06:40] lol I can [18:06:57] been there, done that, busted his ass for performing abuse on his own farm [18:07:51] amazing [18:07:53] Pft [18:08:53] The wiki can be used as a "How to not do GDPR 101: Case Study" [18:09:18] gdpr is not in that project's vocabulary [18:09:44] CU was liberally available to people in poor standing or locked on miraheze [18:10:33] although for most of that time I don't think CU actually worked so [18:10:37] "For just $1 paid to my account, use CU freely and access everyone's data!" [18:10:56] Corrupt farm. [18:11:20] amusing to be sure [18:12:20] Error 500 if I try acess. [18:14:08] ohh this... [18:14:14] yeesh [18:16:00] oh yeah and buggier than db141 dumped in cold water [18:16:26] yeah i personally wouldnt touch skywiki with a 10 foot pole tbh, been a steward there for a hot second and just left after i made my first and only checkuser query [18:16:38] Tell me more about sky wiki? [18:16:58] a wiki farm which seriously raises my eyebrows [18:17:07] perhaps it's better to nuke coco's page to prevent users from stepping there [18:17:27] I just got error 500 so idk if any info of mine got there [18:17:41] risk nearing fishing sites [18:17:46] yeah i remember checking the checkuser logs, seemed to be used in almost any circumstance [18:17:57] indeed, the policy allows us to remove content that is "generally considered to be offensive or inappropriate for a user page," [18:18:06] and advertising a wiki farm that doesn't respect data is probably inappropriate [18:18:16] I'm compelled by that argument and can attest to the absolutely horrible data conduct there [18:18:18] [1/2] Not much more to say. It's a separate farm operated by a user banned from most Miraheze spaces. [18:18:18] [2/2] There have been credible allegations of misuse of CheckUser/PII on that farm, hence the warnings above [18:18:39] well... since we're all in agreement here time to put on my Meta admin hate [18:18:42] was made a steward again 3 months ago, checkuser logs, checkuser queries and the discord server really just made me quit [18:18:49] thought he changed tbh [18:18:55] first mistake ^ [18:19:24] been watching for way too long to be compelled of any difference now [18:19:40] he had an alt account break the rules and the moment i realized it was his alt i just left [18:19:58] that's about par for the course [18:20:22] wonder if alpad is still steward there [18:20:27] 18:20, 25 September 2024 Reception123 talk contribs block deleted page User:Cocopuff2018 (Userpage is dedicated to the advertisement of a wiki farm that misuses user data, which is not appropriate for a user page) (view/undelete) [18:22:30] The site appears to be on a shared CPanel hosting [18:22:44] as I recall its hosting oscillates between free and trial providers [18:22:55] its all paid hosting [18:23:02] not very much then [18:23:57] 👍 [18:24:07] /s [18:25:44] i believe i had access to the backend for some time, its indeed paid hosting [18:25:52] Appears to use centrel Auth as I have noted global accounts [18:26:04] at least when i had access to it [18:26:21] unless im misremembering [18:26:33] is centralauth up and running now? [18:26:36] that's progress [18:26:59] CA, managewiki, both together were the major hurdles from what I remember [18:27:48] Wikis seem dead most appear to have no pages, many not even a main page [18:31:38] I'm still in the process of doing things [18:31:49] I haven't fully released it yet [18:32:04] well ideally if you are still working on basic things like main pages, you shouldn't be announcing it [18:33:07] it's been 'in the process' for years [18:33:17] I have very little time [18:33:25] the alts disagree [18:33:33] lol was gonna say that [18:34:08] Let's move on, please and thanks. [18:35:54] Gonna head out have a nice day (: [18:42:32] [1/2] This is a weirdly apt metaphor for gaining competence as a wiki admin: [18:42:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1288571356597846098/image.png?ex=66f5ab17&is=66f45997&hm=9a96d624486a59340270153a22b7929b3588d2d74e7ea6e899ba3f5c681edadc& [18:43:25] [1/5] * Start out knowing next to nothing except a bunch of terms to research [18:43:25] [2/5] * Make your first successful change [18:43:25] [3/5] * Make a fancy change [18:43:25] [4/5] * Create template hierarchies [18:43:26] [5/5] * Make fancy template hierarchies [18:44:02] I still have no idea about particularly fancy template heiarchies [18:44:05] I'm in the wrong place [18:44:37] (In other news, I'm spending too much time/getting much better at Satisfactory in my incredibly limited free time. 😄 ) [18:46:49] ok well goolge search console is pissing me off makes no sense [18:47:43] Hey bud, we gave you a free pass as the topic was your wiki farm, but you are still discord-banned and shouldn't use IRC to bypass. [18:48:13] im gonna leave [18:48:22] Thanks, have yourself a good day [19:21:55] Oh they got centralauth up and running lol [19:22:06] Mustve told them to stop dming me about that about 400 times [19:51:16] What do yoyu https://nex.f2esports.net/upload/cdn/obs64_2024-09-25_19-48-38.jpg [19:51:31] ***what do you think? (got myself a second monitor) [19:52:27] https://nex.f2esports.net/upload/cdn/obs64_2024-09-25_19-48-38.jpg [19:54:22] +1 point for using monobook [19:57:21] Monobook supremacy, imho it's the best skin for sysop stuff. No screen real estate wasted. [19:58:10] Should probably replace my main monitor with a 24 inch 240Hz panel. [20:03:29] @notaracham started DND club today, am making a Texan fire sorcerer this should be interesting 😈 [20:03:41] My accent sux [20:10:28] Espanol [20:17:10] Mi acento apesta [20:17:21] Bonjour [20:19:01] Guten abend. Ich nehme a einer von ihnen spricht deutsch [20:20:11] <_arawynn> hier [22:31:16] @agentisai what do you think of the Kirby series [23:20:28] Voice work for D&D characters: a thing that you get better at over time [23:23:50] I think my hardest and most enjoyable one was a brassy Mid-Atlantic accent for a warlock / merchant character who was also a bird [23:26:46] So many bird puns and "Say chum, what's the fuss" [23:37:13] Según tu, tu acento esta de la verga [23:39:05] you forgot to put the ~, now die (jk) [23:39:26] Lmao [23:39:47] Part of me was trying to think of what the Texan version of crikey was [23:43:15] Is kinda good skin but is the only skin that I don't like when vanilla, it only looks good with some CSS [23:45:42] -1 when the wiki has a fuck ton of stuff in the top bar thing and because of that is very close to the tabs, I don't like that