[00:48:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> weird that they were showing ads there anyway
[00:48:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> they are probably hemorraging cash
[01:26:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> ok I gotta say it
[01:26:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> WikiIndex’s rounded monobook is kinda awesome https://wikiindex.org/index.php?title=Welcome&useskin=monobook
[02:26:32] <PixDeVl>	 holy shit guys
[02:26:33] <PixDeVl>	 i did it
[02:26:41] <PixDeVl>	 my rust code compiled
[02:27:36] <PixDeVl>	 joyous day
[02:27:50] <PixDeVl>	 i still have no idea what Ok() or Some() means
[02:28:19] <PixDeVl>	 `&self != Ok()`
[03:01:05] <BlankEclair>	 pixldev: think of Ok()/Error() as like returning a value, or returning an exception
[03:01:16] <BlankEclair>	 and think of Some()/None as return_type|None in python
[03:59:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> they're enum cases
[04:00:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> i think
[04:00:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> `Result` can be either `Ok` or `Err`, with associated values, and `Option` can be either `Some` (with an associated value) or `None`
[04:01:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> and putting something at the end of a function without a semicolon is like shorthand for `return`-ing that thing i think
[04:02:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> basically what Claire said, lol
[05:36:29] <BlankEclair>	 mhm, yeah they're enums
[05:36:37] <BlankEclair>	 > [19/10/2024 15:01] <MirahezeRelay> <avghelper> and putting something at the end of a function without a semicolon is like shorthand for `return`-ing that thing i think
[05:36:39] <BlankEclair>	 yeah
[06:27:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> y'all talk about tea w/o me?
[06:32:48] <BlankEclair>	 we're talking about tea?
[06:33:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> (do discord's stickers show up ok in IRC?)
[06:36:45] <BlankEclair>	 avghelper: you can try
[06:42:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> i just did 🍵
[06:43:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> did it show only the name of it i wonder...
[06:43:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> would've been "TeaTime!"
[06:47:17] <BlankEclair>	 okay cool, i don't see it xD
[06:49:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> rip
[06:50:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <avghelper> is this: https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1269460565651095654.webp?size=320&quality=lossless
[06:53:57] <BlankEclair>	 esther!
[06:55:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] This is my kind of humour 😂
[06:55:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1297090634079014922/2_5226592809703726876.mp4?ex=6714a949&is=671357c9&hm=d489563355d2f49a1a46f0b144f2ee28de6d21fe25edd6ab511185f021033353&
[11:06:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> another "good boy" moment from Apple - they're removing apps related Radio Free Europe/Liberty Radio from Russian AppStore
[11:15:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> thing is, these apps work w/o VPN, and Kremlin wants VPNs to die badly, Apple previously disabled over 90 VPN apps
[11:16:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> but Apple users will just change region lol
[11:16:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> + what was installed already should work
[11:17:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> Android users are obviously in better condition w/ such stuff
[12:13:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to BlankEclair> Hmmmmm
[12:13:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> aight
[12:13:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Code still don’t wanna work lol
[13:12:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Rust hurts
[13:13:04] <BlankEclair>	 https://catgirl.center/notes/9zjqtemugpa50b3b
[13:13:18] <BlankEclair>	 is there such a thing as too much pink?
[13:14:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Subjectively
[13:14:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Do you ever play minecraft prime?
[13:14:42] <BlankEclair>	 uh, never heard of it ^^;
[13:15:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> We have a sadly unused unofficial miraheze SMP
[13:16:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Join us in deforestation
[13:19:09] <BlankEclair>	 huh neat
[13:19:16] * BlankEclair plays VoxeLibre instead
[13:20:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Cris
[13:21:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Can’t beat the minecraft ecosystem though
[13:22:14] <BlankEclair>	 idk i enjoy this
[13:22:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I’m not saying that’s bad
[14:33:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> what the fuck is apparmor and why have I just spent 2 hours trying to get mediawiki running on opensuse and its been stopping me wtf
[14:33:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> bullshit software I'm SICK of it
[14:46:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> is it worse than SELinux
[15:00:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob, replying to pixldev> why this got so many reactions lmao
[16:39:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://youtu.be/WS0vTRl_2PQ
[16:52:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to agentisai> I've never used SELinux tbf, I don't even know what AppArmor is, just that its annoying as hell
[16:52:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [1/3] Thanks YouTube not sure why you gave me this but seems neat
[16:52:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1297241011625656340/image0.jpg?ex=67153556&is=6713e3d6&hm=cd1d93b1323552021405a161bd1e4c73292077f7ee95334ab4cb5645b0be01c4&
[16:52:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1297241011948621834/image1.jpg?ex=67153556&is=6713e3d6&hm=33c9ec11f30c506e6a50a45195b02183efebb8af274161694bdfa5a2882fb1c1&
[16:52:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> I've only ever used Ubuntu previously and ir didn't have any of this shit
[19:07:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> That could be one of my mates
[19:08:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> He didn't look anything like that
[19:08:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> But he did actually bring a typewriter to class once
[19:45:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <emicraftnoob, replying to pixldev> nothing to do about it but the fact that YT is going to be twenty next year is crazy
[19:47:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <khedivate> [1/2] look at this giant flag my friend found
[19:47:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <khedivate> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1297285036135022725/IMG_3807.jpg?ex=67155e57&is=67140cd7&hm=6fbe02141d3ec4467099325ada36f4fb5ba5d139a2905cb32749208abb125bae&
[20:05:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2024-10-19/Recent_research
[20:05:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] LOL
[20:05:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> `"As many as 5%" of new English Wikipedia articles "contain significant AI-generated content", says paper`
[20:06:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> fuck
[20:07:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1297290084261036103/500px-thumbnail.png?ex=6715630a&is=6714118a&hm=ea1cea64ed370cd8256e97b7c6fb57803a47696cded2a84cd094fed12b719066&
[20:08:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272, replying to rodejong> German
[20:08:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Half my "writers" cheat with AI
[20:08:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272> I don’t trust AI for writing
[20:09:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> I wonder how you would stop this
[20:09:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> They try scam me with Ai crap.
[20:09:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <_arawynn> not surprised that German has so little, it's not an easy language
[20:09:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <yoshi459292927370272> Yeah and they barley question it
[20:09:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> I just added stuff in the TOS about it, and drop those that cheat with Ai crud
[20:09:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Often they liie about their AI crud being human
[20:10:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003, replying to rodejong> Meanwhile, I'm doing the opposite thing on my wikis (not on Miraheze): eliminating all AI content and then replace them with high quality content rewritten from scratch. Zero tolerance to AI-gen content from now on.
[20:10:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theburningfirethatscorchessouls> I have zero telorance for AI crud as well
[20:11:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <tali64> Fortunately, I've only had one person on Amazing YouTubers Wiki that has submitted AI-generated content
[20:12:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I assume it's inexperienced editors or total randos going w/ AI, surely long time WP dwellers aren't amused by this?
[20:12:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> wonder about Russian percentage tho lol
[20:12:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> It's just harder to detect that plain Copy Paste violations
[20:13:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to theoneandonlylegroom> Fraud in Russia is larger and more common I guess? Or am I stereo typing it then?
[20:14:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> I don't know honestly, but I wouldn't be surprised at all
[20:15:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [1/4] Here is how you can detect content is more suspected to be AI:
[20:15:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [2/4] - The 2 paragraph structure with a numbered list of 3 items in between.
[20:15:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [3/4] - Lack of links between them.
[20:15:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> [4/4] - Perhaps the content itself, particularly getting too off-topic.
[20:24:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [1/2] I find that AI often starts with a sentence as if its repeating a question. 
[20:24:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> [2/2] If you can change the verb placement and add a question mark at the end, it often is AI generated.
[20:29:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <felenov, replying to rodejong> You have to understand that corruption and fraud is what holds Russian society together.
[20:35:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong, replying to felenov> That was what I was referring to indeed.
[20:36:14] <Felenov>	 A non-currupt government official is an exception to the rule in the Russian Federation and some of the CIS lands.
[20:43:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to rodejong> yeah, AI text constantly repeat stuff
[20:44:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> https://youtu.be/Pbh_J7VI94g
[20:46:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> Speaking of AI
[21:28:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clockworky, replying to rodejong> https://tenor.com/view/nick-fuentes-my-honest-reaction-superchats-nerf-gun-america-first-gif-14706862429248241564
[21:29:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clockworky> ai was a mistake
[21:29:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clockworky> i want to see if simple wikipedia has ai generated content now
[21:33:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to clockworky> Almost certainly
[21:34:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clockworky> i know for a fact a decent amount of new articles on there has to be ai generated, at least to an extent
[21:34:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <clockworky> im really curious now to know the percentage
[21:35:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> A WikiProject AI cleanup on simple would be great
[22:00:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <wawrow, replying to rodejong> how do these "AI detectors" even work? (if they work at all because I don't know if they do)
[22:02:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rodejong> They recognise how the text is composed, AI often have a non emotional way of writing stuff.
[22:09:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to wawrow> It uses AI as well in a way
[22:09:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Depending on how you define it
[22:20:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it's a cat and mouse game is how it works tbh
[22:20:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> ai does things a certain way that detectors are trained to find, model refiners find ways to get around it, repeat
[23:08:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> cleaning out my drive, I realized I had three moribund Linux installs which I completely forgot about
[23:08:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <agentisai> deleted them and finally installed a working copy of Ubuntu
[23:45:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://bsky.app/profile/archive.org/post/3l6va6n277u2f