[00:24:35] define "actual femboys" [02:59:17] Example 1 of why python is the biggest pile of 💩 to ever be written [03:54:25] It's not that it's good, it's that it does a little of everything good enough. 😄 [03:54:47] (Def room for improvement, though) [05:50:38] [1/2] watching the mossbag video about wikis [05:50:39] [2/2] "you can't make another twitter, even if you can you probably shouldnt" [05:50:47] man, life hits you fast in a year [05:51:05] now with bluesky exploding [05:54:31] I mean, Miraheze is "another Fandom", which was the main point of the video so everything is possible [06:28:01] Twitter as twitter was wasn't a good idea to resurrect, but I do like what bluesky is trying to do, despite imperfections [06:28:32] Getting the algorithm out of the way of discovery, even when it leads offsite, is the better long-term play [06:28:52] I love losing my entire post w/ alt text on images after accidentally going back! [06:29:19] and I didn't expect to get attached to bookmark feature [06:29:45] bookmarking was quite useful i'll give em that [06:30:00] especially since i have such a low bar and like anything lol [06:30:42] hopefully they'll get all that soon [06:31:05] but I still have this suspicious feeling toward it [06:31:12] bluesky? [06:31:16] yeah [06:31:20] i think it's fair [06:31:48] I feel bad about cohost but nothing could save it, if you think about it now [06:32:10] There have been quite a bit of stated aims and purposes, but its hard to say what mechanisms are in place for them to not drop the ball [06:32:32] I hate creating new accounts as and building up shit again but I didn't regret much deleting my personal twitters [06:33:10] I think a bit over a year ago now [06:34:35] I hope the bsky monetization methods they have now will be able to sustain them enough, and if not i hope they can find more ways of being able to be sustainable [08:25:14] They also only have like 20 employees, which is very smol compared to the amount of users on the app [12:59:55] [1/2] Comments also appear to be an issue [12:59:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1313489896710602792/image0.jpg?ex=6750524a&is=674f00ca&hm=22e520bddaf1989b6bc2112224d97c4b0dc688159812da096783b0bbeea631fa& [13:18:15] @groupnebula563_0765 @tali64 please post the json in the recent-changes-script channel on the linked server [13:21:04] [1/23] ``` [13:21:04] [2/23] { [13:21:05] [3/23] "type": "log", [13:21:05] [4/23] "ns": 0, [13:21:05] [5/23] "title": "The Gift of Gum (SpongeBob SquarePants)", [13:21:05] [6/23] "pageid": 15183, [13:21:06] [7/23] "revid": 0, [13:21:06] [8/23] "old_revid": 0, [13:21:06] [9/23] "rcid": 147554, [13:21:07] [10/23] "user": "Nope", [13:21:07] [11/23] "userid": 926, [13:21:08] [12/23] "oldlen": 0, [13:21:08] [13/23] "newlen": 0, [13:21:09] [14/23] "timestamp": "2024-12-03T07:11:51Z", [13:21:09] [15/23] "parsedcomment": "This page needs to be improved. To much poor grammar like so many other pages here.", [13:21:10] [16/23] "logid": 53255, [13:21:10] [17/23] "logtype": "comments", [13:21:11] [18/23] "logaction": "add", [13:21:11] [19/23] "logparams": { [13:21:12] [20/23] "commentid": 8843 [13:21:12] [21/23] }, [13:21:13] [22/23] "tags": [] [13:21:13] [23/23] ``` [14:03:45] yeah, I would [14:03:54] problem is I’m out of server slots [14:17:25] Ok, can you give me the wiki is question? @groupnebula563_0765 @tali64 [14:17:50] for me it’s uh [14:17:53] https://newqualitipedia.telepedia.net [14:17:58] https://chinafake.wiki [14:18:10] thanks [14:19:46] np! [14:19:47] :) [14:31:38] Yello [14:40:45] Thanks to you for creating WikiBot, Markus [14:51:23] @pancake.aurora martial law???? [14:51:30] Yes [14:51:43] Friendly coup, imo [14:52:30] My internet connection is live now, not sure if this will persist [14:53:28] Just wtf [14:53:34] That is my reaction [14:53:38] Apparently all media have been taken over [14:53:44] Kms [14:53:48] It is broadcasting now, at least [14:53:58] Youtube access not cut off [14:54:10] Apparently tanks are rolling towards the presidency place [14:54:18] Also unconfirmed [14:54:30] The posted pics were confirmed to be either outdated or fake [14:54:59] One confirmed thing is 'helicopters above National Assembly Building' [14:55:04] I hope the army do their job tho [14:55:19] (Only body capable of dismissing martial law) [14:55:49] (And only NA (in other words, parliament) members are immune from arrests during martial law) [14:57:55] But given they are ignoring the law and constitutions, I doubt if they will obey the law [14:58:59] (The martial law command's order 1 was against the law by saying 'no national assembly gathering', but the Constitution requires president to 'request NA gathering if NA is in recess') [14:59:29] So they think martial command is above the law [15:01:08] Government Complex Sejong (where majority of Government offices are located) is reportedly being shut down (midnight now) [15:09:35] Wait the what now [15:40:16] Where is happening this martial law? [15:46:11] South Korea [15:46:14] Not the North [15:50:53] https://vxtwitter.com/BNONews/status/1863965007991521318 [15:51:26] https://x.com/theGeoView/status/1863968263807361188 [15:55:14] @pancake.aurora hope they succeed in impeaching [15:55:34] https://x.com/josungkim/status/1863969750147326149 [15:55:36] Oh ye [15:58:03] https://x.com/josungkim/status/1863974246315409865?s=46&t=i-UD2LZovA7wQSvP_zWQuw [16:14:52] man [16:15:40] https://x.com/saber_psvm/status/1863977303484821701 [16:23:33] Now two options for president [16:23:44] [1/2] 1. Quell the martial law [16:23:44] [2/2] 2. Declare COUP!!!!!!! [16:25:31] https://x.com/ValerioCNN/status/1863981058880106713 [16:31:38] True. [16:31:43] /me acting like an fact checker [16:32:30] "Mostly true" --revifacts.net [17:06:06] https://x.com/myhlee/status/1863986933309087977 [17:06:10] lol not over @pancake.aurora [17:06:26] Of course. [17:06:44] Law says 'pres. must declare end of martial law' [17:06:48] It has not happened yet [17:22:01] One thing for sure is Special Forces will face a consequence for joining the coup, it doesn't make sense they can arrive at National Assembly within 60 minutes of declaration, with that arms [17:55:26] At this point I've seen so many conflicting reports, I'm just waiting for the final explainer with timeline of events from some news outlet in a day or three. [17:55:43] Hoping you and yours stay safe, and that things don't go even further sideways this morning. [17:55:51] pretty much the only ting outside observers can do [17:56:03] south korea deserves better, I hope it works out for the best [18:23:14] For what i'm reading, the military are with the governing party. And against the parties not in the government [18:23:42] It is complex than that [18:23:49] But I am too tired right now to explain it [18:23:54] After all, it is 3am here. [18:24:36] (Note: I live in South Korea, and have better live news resources) [18:24:44] And context info [18:38:19] https://x.com/newswire_us/status/1864014832149708964?s=46&t=i-UD2LZovA7wQSvP_zWQuw [19:14:21] Quite inaccurate [19:14:40] It was around the same time when the martial law was declared [19:14:47] Not when the tweet was posted [19:24:14] [1/6] At least from what I know: [19:24:15] [2/6] (local time KST: UTC+9) [19:24:15] [3/6] Dec 3rd, `22:30`: president makes sudden 'promulgation of martial law' [19:24:15] [4/6] `23:00`: Martial Law Command issued the first decree banning 'political activity' (including national assembly) [19:24:16] [5/6] Dec 4th, `01:01`: National Assembly passes the resolution to demand end of martial law. [19:24:16] [6/6] No status update since then. [19:25:19] And according to the constitution and laws, president is required to end the martial law if National Assembly demands so. [19:25:46] There is no 'if' or 'but's, only possible way to say 'if' or 'but' is officially going coup route. (Not yet) [19:31:03] Office of president just now: I'll end the martial law, as soon as the quorum is met to start the state council (which is required by law) [19:33:05] https://x.com/hyunsuinseoul/status/1864029051582881818?s=46&t=i-UD2LZovA7wQSvP_zWQuw [19:33:23] Yeh only just learnt about that a few minutes ago lol [19:33:35] [1/7] SITREP tldr: [19:33:35] [2/7] Yoon's latest statement: [19:33:35] [3/7] 1. I commanded the forces in national assembly to withdraw, after the assembly passed the resolution [19:33:36] [4/7] 2. I will end the martial law. [19:33:36] [5/7] 3. However I need to hold state council (note by revi: required by law) and because of the early morning, quorum has not been met yet. [19:33:36] [6/7] 4. Nontheless, opposition should not block governments' work. [19:33:36] [7/7] 5. (He walks out) [19:35:00] He’s definitely getting impeached for this [19:35:09] Also I see there’s a national strike [19:35:27] Yep [19:35:33] Brand new election, yay. [20:00:49] One of the opposition party leader said 'we gonna impeach as soon as sun rises' [20:01:39] Passing articles of impeachment requires 150 signatories to begin, and requires 200 (out of 300) support votes to pass. [20:02:02] (And then you have 6 months for constitutional court to decide) [20:05:18] @pancake.aurora am I correct in understanding that the president doesn't lead his party? [20:06:06] In Korea, president does not lead the party [20:06:30] And president openly engaging in elections and so is generally seen as taboo (or even impeachable offense) [20:07:07] The first ever articles of impeachment was filled because president talked about something w/r/t the upcoming general election, IIRC [20:08:06] We are sort of mix of US system and UK system; we have prime minister, but then we have president, and the president is head of state and head of government [20:08:42] (So PM is effectively an unelected vice president, but requires approval of national assembly to be appointed) [20:09:01] Ah [20:09:26] And we hold separate election for national assembly and president anyway [20:14:12] So sounds like bad, but not as bad as it could be, and not full-on military dictatorship at this point? [20:14:23] kinda like in Georgia it seems [20:15:38] Not yet, but not fully over [20:15:51] Not yet (the worst) [20:16:45] Yep, sounds like waiting and more waiting, for now [20:16:51] Until the final decree comes out to end the martial law, I don't see it ending fully [20:17:14] At least, local MBC reported 'martial law command was dissolved at 04:22 (about 55 mins ago)' [20:17:47] comments support has been added to RcGcDw and will come to Wiki-Bot rcscript rewrite soon (also @originalauthority) [20:18:28] Looks like you are having a fun night [20:18:35] Yes, not fun tho [20:18:53] Last time martial law was declared, thousands of people were killed by army [20:19:15] We all have some sort of PTSD when someone says 'martial law' [20:19:52] During the last impeachment process, army was secretly planning a martial law, and they got prosecuted for that. [20:22:49] Scary times, wishing for a bloodless and non-despotic outcome for your country and its people [20:23:51] So yeah, it is chilling at the very least [20:24:54] Don't want to imagine what would have happened it they got into the NA in time [20:27:13] Or just blocked the entry to NA building [20:27:33] Or just arrest all NA members as soon as the decree went out [20:27:38] Ez dictatorship moment [20:30:31] So to get it straight, Parliament was moving to impeach, president declares martial law under the pretense of the opposition partying working with NK, try to get into the National Assembly and arrest the opposition party members, assembly votes to order the president to overturn before they can get in the building? [20:30:59] I think you got the order wrong [20:31:24] There was at least one political party saying they will impeach the president so not totally wrong [20:31:43] So he just really didn’t like the ops [20:32:02] Basically he was pissed that his budget bill was largely cut [20:32:26] Aaaaah [20:32:38] And another articles of impeachment against chief of board of auditors, and few prosecutors were up to vote tomorrow (local time) [20:33:07] Now it seems like he is getting an article of impeachment against himself [20:35:07] Articles of impeachment against president requires 200 support out of 300 seats, other articles just need simple majority [20:35:23] And the main opposition party coalition controls 192 seats out of 300 seats [20:36:21] So they can pass any laws on their own, pass the article of impeachment on their own, as long as they do not involve the 200/300 supermajority is involved (ie. voting on veto'ed bills, articles of impeachment against president, constitution amendments) [20:36:38] (And government and ruling party cannot pass any laws without opposition support) [20:37:13] (And for avoidance of doubt, in Korea, definition of 'ruling party' is determined by 'whether the party have president in their side') [20:38:50] [1/2] I assume that's also the party forming the government, appointing ministers, etc. [20:38:50] [2/2] so basically you have a minority government [20:39:11] Basically party doesn't control the formation of gov [20:39:15] Only president do [20:39:33] But still, they sort of 'advise', so it is in part true [20:40:48] ok, seems to match Germany in that regard. President is the one forming the government and if their party/coalition doesn't control the parliament it's a minority government - which has a hard time doing basically anything [20:41:02] Oh teah probably [20:41:04] Yeah* [20:41:35] And president is actually expected to remain neutral on political business, and it has been a cause for articles of impeachment in 2004 (did not pass) [20:42:39] yay [20:44:08] It was more of seen as improper and the parties who passed the article of impeachment lost the next general election [20:44:11] (Back in 2004) [20:45:29]