[00:22:07] <.labster> With Microsoft dropping support for Windows 10, it looks like 2025 will be the Year of Linux on the Desktop. [00:57:59] I wouldn't hedge bets [00:58:08] people be out there still running vista and windows 7 [00:58:15] my dad still runs Windows XP [01:14:27] <.labster> XP was pretty good honestly. Not perfect but good. [01:14:46] I know everyone hated windows 8 but i kinda vibed with that [01:14:50] the whole metro style was so nice [01:18:41] <.labster> I have a Win 10 laptop that I use exclusively for games. What Linux should I install on it? [01:19:04] 8.1 has its holdouts still [01:20:07] in order of relative stability but less cutting edge towards cutting edge but higher personal maintenance requirements; ubuntu, fedora, nobara, arch [01:20:13] you probably want something quite lightweight which isn't gonna have much eating the ram [01:20:23] unlike say windows cutting edge on linux isn't just playing newer games, but overall game behavior across the field [01:21:16] if gaming is no object then if the laptop is on the slightly older side, debian or linux mint are perfectly agreeable options [01:21:24] You'll probably find it easier to install games on Ubuntu and the more popular ones (mostly because developers if they don't release via Steam etc, will most likely target the Snap store etc first) [01:21:34] but I'd probably avoid Ubuntu as its so bloated [01:21:40] ubuntu, fedora, arch for options there [01:21:51] ubuntu with a bit of work is no less bloated than fedora in my experience [01:21:59] although I gutted snap on it so [01:22:52] would have just run fedora but it had certain issues that did not reproduce on ubuntu, and while ubuntu is more into crapware it also tries to be among the smoothest distributions you can find that will work in the widest variety of circumstances pretty well [01:23:07] fedora has a sharper edge and arch is basically RTFM the OS [01:26:07] OpenSuse ❤️ [01:27:02] oh its actually openSUSE how odd [01:27:34] <.labster> This whole discussion is why no one chooses Linux ⤴️ [01:33:43] Ubuntu ❤️ [01:35:10] I fricking Microsoft putting on my throat and choking me with Windows 11 [01:36:48] I haven't seen the Windows 11 update thing in my PC other than the school computers [01:38:29] <.labster, replying to emicraftnoob> But think how much better Windows will be when it targets ads just for you [01:42:39] <.labster> The laptop was fairly high end 3 years ago, and since I tend to play games that are older anyway, I'm not too worried about performance. [01:43:59] <.labster> I mean, Europa Universalis 4 performance was still pretty bad and that game is 10 years old, but so much of that game is CPU-bound that it's not like modern hardware helps much. [01:48:19] I was playing OpenTTD earlier, such a neat game [01:48:22] runs like a charm too [02:49:32] [1/3] I still have my old PC working with Win2000 with office package. I still have the diskettes also 😄 [02:49:32] [2/3] I later got my laptop with WinXP. And now Windows10 on my Notebook. I'll keep using this one as long as I can. I never used Windows 95, 98, Me, Vista, 7, 8 etc. [02:49:32] [3/3] If it works it works. [02:50:39] The win2000 is not connected to the internet anymore though. Just use it for house tasks, small old games, etc. [03:46:03] might actually fuck around and try to install linux on my ooold desktop, it can't handle 10 (thank you steam) [03:46:26] I can keep both win and linux, right? [04:08:04] https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxR4aYMnUM7gPxJYMUoRI5mS2MScrGe412?si=gcYqU5gSdj6tgVUr one of my favorite parts when watching a gmod video [04:14:19] My biggest gripe from Windows 8 is purely a design perspective issue, if they are hiding core functionality without any indication that "corners" are a thing, that's a failure of design [04:14:51] I understand they were trying to go for a pie in the sky mobile and desktop unified experience thing, but that was one of the big gaps in my view [05:00:25] No Win 95? Some of us remember updrading from Win 3.0 to 3.1 before that. :moonch: [05:01:14] Bunch of 3.5 diskettes that was. lol [08:12:21] i wonder if i can get openai to approve miraheze commons [08:17:33] where response [08:17:58] oh i see, we have 50,008 unclaimed jobs [09:10:21] I still have my 3.1 too as well as MS Dos. 💾 [09:15:16] I don't know if this was passed on here but discord as of today has enabled a potentially dangerous permission by default to the everyone role called external app you should disable it if you have not already i put it here because i was unsure of where to send this [09:21:15] What precisely is known to be dangerous about it? Are there any recent discussions on Reddit or so regarding this new default permission? [09:22:28] can be used to issue external bot commands from what i've heard [09:22:58] basically a raiding risk [09:23:54] since it can use bots that are not part of the server [09:25:30] That's possibly no different than the likes of Dyno/MEE6 in most cases, and anyone who gives suspicious bots with malicious programming access to their accounts puts their own credentials at extreme risk first and foremost, but it's strange that Discord would enable non-administrators to introduce new bots into the server nevertheless. [09:26:37] I think I'll go ahead and disable the permission in servers I run until Discord further clarifies whether or not proper safeguards to prevent raiding are in place. [09:27:04] https://youtu.be/6vjG34uyPz0 [11:21:58] aren't bots acting like apps now across the entire discord? [11:22:05] some bots [11:36:30] it's well designed and the 'stabler arch' approach of tumbleweed very much appeals to me, but the compatibility is meh and basically sideways of fedora [12:44:42] https://x.com/QueeringW/status/1865012180342431999 [15:11:54] Meh I havent had many compatability issues per say at the moment [15:21:56] https://floopy.bandcamp.com/track/raspberry-tea [15:22:14] it's bandcamp friday [16:11:05] @pancake.aurora do you think impeachment will pass on saturday? [16:11:19] Unable to predict [16:11:29] Too much volatility [16:36:27] What I don't really understand is why the President would try something like that, didn't he realize it would go this way? [16:46:06] Because he thought his insurrectionists will get their job done before the assembly can override it [16:47:31] They had specific 'to be arrested' list, including speaker of the National Assembly, leader of his own party, leader of the opposition, and other politicians at opposition leaderships, and ONE journalists whom he is deeply pissed off [16:49:28] Lack of coordination meant Air Force Defense Command did not open up the airspace (above the Office of the President) required to approach National Assembly, which earned time for NA members to arrive and prepare motions [17:14:33] Oh wow, I didn't know there was a whole plan [17:37:56] New here. Gotta find my way around. [17:37:59] Hello [17:56:53] <_changezi_> Hi! [18:01:15] Hello there [19:01:06] Oh wow [19:41:57] It's becoming clear they had their act planned well before, but hastily executed [19:45:22] [1/3] Weird movie! [19:45:22] [2/3] Anyone seen it? If not... you can skip it. [19:45:22] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1314679094901870602/image.png?ex=6754a5d1&is=67535451&hm=c9e844dae290961aca55f727ad60e450604a4d5c31851780ed5deaaff3966dd4& [19:45:33] NA votes on the motion 19:00 today (KST, 04:45 now), and there is a rumor he could declare second martial law tonight (ie. now) or if the motion doesn't pass tomorrow [20:03:03] Stay safe [20:03:20] Well that is beyond my control ya know [20:03:57] I bet they'd target me as a (former and current) functionary :-p [20:57:54] @pancake.aurora i take it you support/back the democratic party? [20:57:54] i'm surprised Seol elected PPP as mayor [20:57:54] Nobody in sane mind support PPP [21:00:10] I used to be member of democratic party until last year (conscripted people can't be member of political party so) [21:01:26] And yes, I seriously do not consider PPP supporter to be sane [21:01:56] If they still support them after all this, you are a traitor, anyway [21:21:53] Would the army even follow it anymore? [21:22:12] Seems like they have changed the boat [21:22:17] And claiming they ain't [21:22:24] But we saw unthinkable happen once [21:22:34] How would we trust them? [21:22:54] (Answer: there is no way) [21:24:25] It's 06:24 here so seems like we survived tonight but I fear tonight [23:15:10] oh wtf. Even after you left?