[00:14:35] Whos? [00:14:46] everyone's [00:15:09] ||192.168.0.1|| [00:15:52] Are you planning to hack people or something? [00:20:19] Are you planning to hack or doxx or something? [00:25:50] it's a joke [00:25:58] funny thing is that's not my router's ip either [00:27:37] Hmmm. [00:30:09] ... [00:48:46] libresoldier79: no ur rong [00:49:29] :(( [00:53:26] oh btw [00:53:28] you lost the game [01:18:02] :devastated: [01:32:52] [1/2] Hmmm... I wonder why I cannot access Amazon on Costco Wi-Fi [01:32:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319115202469564468/Screenshot_20241218_193119_Firefox.jpg?ex=6764c944&is=676377c4&hm=31d226ed563c7b5662ac2c04599cf0524529a29200c23d4ca1b20790dc5ac71a& [01:38:46] [1/2] Chat [01:38:46] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319116687597113415/image0.jpg?ex=6764caa6&is=67637926&hm=d384b949f2142ff2f0d1b52cafedf1e968c871f4b396f0c66761cf4a0c140b5b& [01:58:42] costco prohibiting amazon is quite the interesting sight [03:37:14] i wonder how many meows i can put on mirabeta [03:42:25] 10k meows: https://meta.mirabeta.org/wiki/Special:RequestWikiQueue/10 [03:45:35] huh... capped to 1024 meows [03:48:46] Premium conveyance [04:07:17] Also premium meowveyance [04:07:34] :3c [04:43:09] [1/2] Just binged this serie on Netflix: [04:43:09] [2/2] https://www.imdb.com/title/tt7909970/ [04:43:53] [1/2] This is based on the true story: [04:43:53] [2/2] https://www.propublica.org/article/false-rape-accusations-an-unbelievable-story [04:44:48] Here's the trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QTIkUzkbzQk [18:29:43] RhinosF1 so hows your day been [18:30:21] PixDeVl: a shit show but i made it to my leave so work and uni can go to /dev/null now [18:30:59] oh dear [18:31:09] thats not very jolly mr grinch [18:32:43] PixDeVl: i am jolly now i'm on leave [18:32:56] yay! [18:33:02] When did we update to 1.42 again [18:34:37] RhinosF1 what are the chances i get a response asking about finding a commit in #wikimedia-dev [18:35:36] PixDeVl: low [18:35:54] #mediawiki or #wikimedia-tech? [18:36:03] higher [18:36:18] neither eh [18:36:26] neither of those feel right [18:36:40] tech is for tech stuff on WMF, mediawiki is for support [18:37:13] i think prob #mediawiki [18:40:35] asked [18:40:43] gonna keep looking [18:41:12] RhinosF1 whats less dumb, big through source and find the code and the commit via git blame or digging through commit history [18:41:29] PixDeVl: git blame [18:42:22] blocking account autocreation must be a hook right? [18:42:38] or at least be called there [18:43:50] `CentralAuthHooks.php` well hi there little fella [18:57:31] RhinosF1 starting to suspect this was less of an intentional feature to GBL then a change to another part of the codebase that changed how GBL interects with this stuff [18:57:59] PixDeVl: it was intentional [18:58:04] gonna look for discussions on MWW and maybe WMM meta [18:58:06] hm [18:58:18] was it in the global blocking extension directly [18:59:00] I feel this could also have been caused by a chance in how CA does autocreation [19:00:36] PixDeVl: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/rMW66f85fa125f9c92fbdffda4a077ac0991c95ce2f [19:01:19] You can't see https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T234371 can you? [19:02:23] I cannot no [19:03:14] PixDeVl: that sucks [19:03:27] PixDeVl: you should talk to Martin though [19:03:30] He has opinions [19:04:02] Is it an active security issue [19:04:22] RhinosF1 which martin [19:05:14] PixDeVl: no perm private cause CU data mentioned in it and Urbanec [19:05:27] ugh [19:05:32] Urbanec? [19:05:52] (in case Urbanec is a person that ugh as seperate/ to the CU part) [19:05:52] PixDeVl: yes, go talk to Martin Urbanec [19:06:06] oh thats his surname [19:06:51] what would be the best way to contact/whats his accounts [19:07:02] the only martin i know on wiki is DerHexer :p [19:07:26] Discord [19:07:31] He's in our discord [19:07:35] oh [19:07:58] good to know [19:08:20] I'll check that out tmr and put a hold on filing that task [19:35:56] ugh [19:36:16] PixDeVl is dead. Long live PixDeVl [20:35:33] [1/7] Doing testing with : https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:ParserMigration on my test wiki: [20:35:33] [2/7] Product Version [20:35:33] [3/7] MediaWiki 1.42.1 [20:35:34] [4/7] PHP 8.3.6 (apache2handler) [20:35:34] [5/7] ICU 74.2 [20:35:34] [6/7] MySQL 8.0.40-0ubuntu0.24.04.1 [20:35:34] [7/7] HTML based templates render as they should using [20:40:08] Hm basic loree box on main page tests not rendering right [21:32:20] [1/4] How can I make all the boxes this page line up? [21:32:21] [2/4] https://taerel.com/StevieWiki/index.php?title=Test2 [21:32:21] [3/4] My vector CSS: [21:32:21] [4/4] https://taerel.com/StevieWiki/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Vector-2022.css [22:17:05] [1/2] SOmeone is complaining my CSS is not working, could someone help by testing on desktop mode on desktop or laptop [22:17:05] [2/2] https://taerel.com/w/Taerel_Worldbuilding_Wiki [22:18:03] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319428556790431784/image.png?ex=6765ed19&is=67649b99&hm=87d9eef90b3df7551c74e98b7fbd0bff3dfa2fe15819d5a586595bd97afa1dae& [22:18:16] People on the MediaWiki Discord are claiming it is not working [22:18:41] Perhaps on their Mobile devices? [22:18:47] IDK [22:19:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319428824500539534/image.png?ex=6765ed59&is=67649bd9&hm=6e09ec615404b3dd481a4da6776ea97a4fb0bc2eb0744878e5a71879d421436e& [22:19:35] If you want to check mobile set use a mobile device (it works for me on mobile and desktop) [22:20:02] I don't have any mobiles [22:20:27] If they are acessing the mobile site via desktop ofc it will look bad, I designed it for mobile sized screens [22:22:03] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319429568100302879/Screenshot_20241219-232112_Chrome.jpg?ex=6765ee0a&is=67649c8a&hm=6fd95bfbddfa76691291df167954909db69bcae68dbcb9dd937f7eaffce30645& [22:22:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319429568431394886/Screenshot_20241219-232138_Chrome.jpg?ex=6765ee0a&is=67649c8a&hm=81f9d86d2cb9bf32c7c2ea2e8e651a95af8c73fa537758211167022d506610e6& [22:22:15] This is on my tablet [22:22:38] The first screenshot was on my laptop [22:22:54] 2nd is strange. [22:23:13] This was on Laptop [22:24:05] Yes, mobile is designed for small screens [22:25:31] That is as far as my knowledge goes πŸ˜„ [22:25:58] Honistly looks quite good on tablet [22:33:04] [1/2] my desktop for the wiki [22:33:05] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319432342896640010/image.png?ex=6765f0a0&is=67649f20&hm=1464698dad57c6cc33491f60a9ddfeca7a57b1aef1a4ef137e103bc55c3d5d5b& [22:34:06] Same as me indeed [22:35:02] Seems like it is working as intended with minor flaws then [22:36:20] OS and broswer? [22:36:29] OS and Broswer? [22:36:44] linux, firefox [22:36:52] Win10 GoogleChrome [22:37:04] so literally opposite ends of the browsing spectrum for desktops :p [22:37:13] Yeah [22:37:26] can test with alternate environments I guess [22:37:36] I never knew you liked Linux and FireFox [22:37:47] I do admit WSL is a cool idea [22:37:49] won't catch me dead using chrome and I rather dislike windows [22:38:10] though there are things I use it for because I overcomplicate my setup too much as it is [22:38:20] I hate windows updates the most and the time I managed to get some really bad ransomware [22:38:28] I miss Space Station 13 though [22:38:51] I tend to neuter, rework or install things which deeply modify the windows update experience [22:38:56] I do not tolerate it out of the box [22:39:09] By the way Raidarr, what distro? I use Ubuntu 24.04 LTS [22:39:21] same with a k and .10 instead of .04 [22:39:33] so not lts on my end [22:39:45] I also use LXDE as my desktop [22:40:01] it is the experiment for gaming which I have to say has been mildly disappointing, probably because I am using a bad trifecta of things [22:40:07] @rodejong DO you like Linux? [22:40:29] wayland and nvidia and not cutting ege [22:40:35] I have no idea why Linux is so awkard, Space Station 13 does not work very well at all on WINE [22:40:47] linux is awkward because gaming is not built with linux as a target [22:40:55] Basicly, all the menus are unable to be used so you cannot make your char or acess stuff [22:40:56] the only reason that's changed substantially is because steam went all in on it [22:41:11] I did get Bejewelled working [22:41:43] in effect my experience is that a lot of the niche gaming tasks I do take the same or more steps on linux, on rare occasion fewer, and in the case of linux are far worse documented or maintained [22:42:13] if I am to pursue it much more I would be taking on the role as the linux maintainer for a number of older games and I have a bit too much on my plate to stack that all together [22:42:17] I did have to hunt down a script for installing BYOND [22:42:45] I do have the massive advantage that the games with malware anticheat are games I am totally disinterested in, so their incompatibility does not affect me [22:43:03] i conceded and decided to use a windows xp vm for my rpg maker 2000 games [22:43:10] I never used Linux. Only Windows (and DOS of course) and Android on my tablet [22:43:34] it's been a while but I've managed to get some older rpg maker things to run on wine [22:44:01] they were quite specific instructions at the time and I would start from scratch doing it again now [22:44:06] What do you mean by "malware anticheat" [22:44:14] DOS? You used that? [22:44:31] problem is that a game series i play calls a stubbed function (i think) [22:44:35] doesn't want to run because either the devs are too lazy to make it work or they don't want to make it work because linux is less willing to give games kernal molestation access [22:44:39] Yup. I am 50+ [22:44:54] What is a "stubbed function"? [22:45:01] I still have the floppies for them [22:45:08] function that is essentially empty [22:45:12] I don't mean 'lazy' as though they necessarily should since it's still a very niche market and more than likely they can't be bothered (might change son with valve) [22:45:20] Kinda glad that is the way as well... uh, they could easly sneak malware/spyware/backdoors in [22:45:29] I have a box for dos 1.1 using 5 and a quarter floppies somewhere [22:45:41] is it all command line? [22:45:49] Yup [22:45:51] dos is totally cli based [22:45:57] > Probably related to ddraw7_WaitForVerticalBlank. Since this is not implemented, it doesn't slow the game down and it runs at extreme speeds. [22:46:04] among other things like not being designed to run multiple things at one time [22:46:28] sounds like the fun I have when games don't work because the cpu is too zoomy [22:46:36] Woah is DOS like the UNIX of the MS world? [22:47:49] windows is now based on NT since xp [22:48:05] (well, rather, we had two lines of windowses before then :p) [22:48:11] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_DOS_machine [22:48:14] windows did get built basically as an overlay on dos [22:48:21] yeah they were split for some years [22:48:33] Yeah [22:49:05] Still have my Windows 3.1 Wingroup floppies too had to run DOS 6 [22:49:24] Why does Windows have like C: and D: drives? (I am used to /home/eytirth/) [22:49:53] That is Dos based [22:50:03] A and B were default floppy letters [22:50:07] C: is harddrive [22:50:19] Yeah [22:50:40] Wait, you mean people had floppy disks? [22:50:41] That also had to do with the Computers Bios [22:50:58] Yeah, I have to boxes full of Floppies [22:50:59] uh, yeah? [22:51:01] What would be on such a disk? [22:51:05] data [22:51:28] programs, documents, ascii porn, video games that fit within the boot sector [22:51:32] just usual stuff [22:51:41] Indee [22:51:51] D commonly is assumed to be the CD drive especially on older systems, a quirk that applies to running older games correctly and sometimes needs to be kept in mind even running 'natively' on linux [22:51:58] native in the wine sense [22:52:13] My computer does not even have a CD drive sadly [22:52:19] most do not these days [22:52:22] Mine neither [22:52:30] this laptop only has three usb ports lmao [22:52:36] Everything is downloadable nowadays [22:52:43] naturally I have a handful of externals which do well [22:52:45] So that copy of The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion I had would be usable [22:53:01] actually have a very large collection of writable CDs [22:53:12] Yeah me too [22:53:23] I've had to use some older ones to make any use of some 2003 era laptops I acquired at one point [22:53:27] (I never throw anything away) [22:53:34] I feel bad to say in the 2010s when I was a teenager, I had an portable CD player [22:53:45] there is nothing bad to it [22:53:47] LOL [22:53:53] And I think it was an Walkman one [22:54:07] > [20/12/2024 09:53] (I never throw anything away) [22:54:09] same (but for data) [22:54:13] You never had the problems of the Walkman with cassettes [22:54:15] I did throw away my floppy collection, after collecting anything of value and storing it in more durable mediums [22:54:17] I had a DragonForce CD and eveything [22:54:36] Really? What problems do they have? [22:54:44] also ended up with a substantial collection of zip drives which I haven't done much with [22:54:47] Commodore64 was fun! [22:55:07] I had an Ninteno DS at one point [22:55:10] The tape could get eaten! [22:55:19] Eaten? [22:55:37] commodore and everything in that age predates me [22:55:43] I do still have CRT monitors and the like [22:56:13] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SO3GXsjEZ94 [22:56:21] My oldest console may of been a PS2 [22:56:27] i love how like every file in this folder is dated 2020-03-29, except for this one that is from 2018 [22:56:37] > -rw------- 1 1000 1000 61M Mar 29 2020 kakegurui-1.mp4 [22:56:38] > -rw------- 1 1000 1000 61M May 3 2018 kakegurui-2.mp4 [22:56:40] > -rw------- 1 1000 1000 58M Mar 29 2020 kakegurui-3.mp4 [22:57:13] Also look what I found: https://www.vizzed.com/boards/ look at that CSS and HTML [22:57:55] https://www.tiktok.com/@thedadbodveteran/video/7147712590318210350 [22:59:10] laughing woah [23:00:11] I've followed him for years. He has a lot of takes on how things were in my time. He's kind of the same age as me [23:00:53] Kids nowadays have no idea how the world was without internet and mobile phones etc. [23:05:35] I have my smartphone in my pocket for time checking [23:07:11] We just looked to the towns clock, 9r through the windows of the neighbour, or you had to ask those who had a watch if you didn't have one. [23:07:43] or look at that circle with lines in it mounted on the wall [23:07:50] And calling... the Phone booth on street corners [23:08:44] And the first Internet, when you had to call in πŸ˜‚ [23:09:30] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0 [23:09:44] I was going to say... [23:09:45] I hated that with a passion [23:09:53] beeeepbooooOOoOooooOop [23:11:03] There was no online shopping or Zoom β€” if you wanted to buy something or see a friend, you needed to get off the couch and out of your house to socialize. [23:11:45] What's more frightning... If they go outside, they sit besides eachother... writing to eachother. Crazy!! [23:12:32] We just wrote on pieces of paper and gave that to class mates to pass through to the person we wanted to send a message [23:12:38] Way more fun [23:12:50] I kinda do not have many freinds offline [23:13:32] My main ones are Flossy, Prakash and Abi, Flossy comes when she is on shift, Prakash is often busy and Abi only comes once in a while [23:14:15] Luckily we have a playground here, so we force our son to go outside and play there with the other kids. You learn better social skills that way [23:14:43] I only realy interact with shopkeepers outside of my house really [23:14:44] you mean you don't hook them up with a tablet at three years old and run with it [23:14:53] Nope [23:15:23] They get all the opportunities for that along the way. [23:15:52] But after school play outside, no phones or game consoles etc. [23:16:06] Those were my best times as a kid [23:16:28] In the evening they can play as much as they want [23:17:10] It's the same with calculating from the head, in stead of using calculators. [23:17:40] Nowadays the casheers don't even know how to calculate change [23:17:59] Everything needs to be done for them [23:18:23] Oh dear .. the power went down.. everything stops πŸ˜› [23:18:40] this conversation has successfully resurrected the urge to tinker with haiku, os2, bsd and other obscure alt operating systems [23:18:51] Hahaha [23:19:07] of which BSD is the only one I'd vaguely consider using and only in the miracle of an optimal hardware setup [23:19:58] [1/2] here's an odd one that's starting to catch up to windows 95 capabilities [23:19:59] [2/2] https://reactos.org/ [23:20:07] I fontly remember my Commodore 64 with Atari modules. [23:21:01] oldest I actually used seriously I believe was windows 98, which I would commonly break by playing in the settings [23:21:27] though I've effectively used older than that, only as posthumous novelties [23:21:45] had a windows 95 laptop I did use seriously in the early 2010s [23:22:00] I went straight from Windows 3.1 to Win2000 [23:22:16] Then to WinXP [23:22:32] it took me a long time to jump to modern properly [23:23:04] I went from Windows 7 to Ubuntu [23:23:38] considering you can theme ubuntu as windows 7, the change may be less dramatic for some than it seems [23:23:55] really you can theme linux as any windows if you set your mind to it [23:24:21] the devil's in the details of compatibility and power usage that was formed with windows habits [23:24:27] @theburningfirethatscorchessouls https://www.uopeople.edu/blog/how-was-life-before-the-internet/ [23:25:01] ah yes, a time when you'd use VCRs to make your own movies [23:25:08] copies I should say [23:25:20] Yup [23:25:26] Still have those too [23:26:02] I even have books dating back to 1901 [23:26:26] I have a large library in my study room [23:27:11] read a book about social development written around 1934 [23:27:15] that was interesting [23:27:49] I do not own any books. [23:28:05] a shame [23:28:38] though the reading potential on the internet is boundless if you opt away from feeds and focus on more useful sources [23:28:45] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319446354300239973/20231021_205312.jpg?ex=6765fdac&is=6764ac2c&hm=cc0f5f9a20cca699246013b359ba08c58ecda6e91b4fafb9cbc42136084a6f7a& [23:28:56] I focus on wikipedia and USEP wiki (and TVtropes) [23:29:03] that is a neat collection [23:29:21] not the worst stuff [23:29:33] I'd take wikipedia with a grain of salt at times but I still binge read it sometimes [23:29:49] The silver box has all the cd roms, and Dune2 game on top [23:29:57] excellent [23:31:00] The blue boxes on the 2nd row, contain cassettes collections [23:31:38] Now you understand my name here being The Librarian [23:32:29] quite suitable [23:33:11] Am I strange for not owning books>? [23:35:10] not anymore [23:37:03] Most people have gotten rid of their books as everything is online. [23:39:39] [1/2] But I like being able to browse through books, without having to scroll to certain places in a page. [23:39:39] [2/2] Also, the feel of putting an ear in, and putting it upside down, when going to bed, and the next day it is still there. Images, smell of paper, I just love books [23:40:30] "Many jobs did not exist before the internet. Those that were web designers were most likely a spider." [23:41:06] or artists [23:44:47] books are cool as hell [23:45:01] i have some, wish i had more, but alas,, space πŸ˜” [23:45:03] and money too ig [23:45:05] WHY did i read books as boobs [23:45:17] xD [23:45:22] also correct [23:45:38] being cool as hell that is [23:45:38] actually this is probably why [23:45:46] > [20/12/2024 10:43] Sorry I can't come to work [23:45:47] > [20/12/2024 10:44] Feeling to gay today [23:45:49] > [20/12/2024 10:44] honestly, i've been feeling pretty gay the past two weeks [23:46:52] Mindset Clair πŸ˜› [23:47:29] both are great [23:55:24] I'm off. [23:55:29] πŸ’€ [23:55:42] nini [23:58:06] I can recognize some of those books just by the color πŸ˜† [23:59:17] that’s an impressive collection [23:59:32] I tried having my own collection but I figured it’s better to just contribute to the one at the hall