[00:00:10] I received some from our hall and Bethel [00:00:36] Doubles [00:00:52] > [20/12/2024 10:59] https://files.catbox.moe/w8ffbn.jpg [00:00:53] > [20/12/2024 11:00] Oh god [00:00:55] > [20/12/2024 11:00] That cheesecake is horrible [00:00:56] > [20/12/2024 11:00] brb [00:00:58] But now I'm really off [00:01:23] oh that’s cool [00:02:00] We had a huge collection of doubles but a CO cleared out our basement years ago and threw them all out [00:02:03] night [01:40:01] R [01:40:09] I am pink [01:48:28] winks [01:50:05] I think perhaps a matrix bridge would be nice in addition to the IRC bridge, that way folks who don’t want to use discord but maybe aren’t super into the lack of features that IRC has in comparison could still pop in here for support and such [01:50:43] https://t2bot.io/discord this is the one I use and I haven’t had any issues [01:51:27] I mean someone came into the matrix space and begun trolling bc I didn’t have a moderation bot set up yet, but once I set it up I haven’t had any other issues [01:51:35] and that was my fault not the bridge’s [01:52:17] There was some reason we looked at but didn't pursue matrix a few months back. Currently tech is stretched a bit thin with absences + freeze, so that'd be a next year thing [01:52:57] from what I hear Matrix's public space moderation tools are horrible [01:53:01] [cn] [01:53:24] 3 way bridge would be horrible and iirc libera wouldn't even allow it at this point [01:53:40] Also the features IRC has that matrix doesn't wouldn't bridge to discord [01:53:43] Yeah, I can't recall the discussion terribly well, but I think there was some security/moderation considerations that put the project on a nap [01:53:45] that too yea [01:53:45] not that the idea is horrible but I know places that have tried that have had severe problems at best [01:54:08] For sure, if the tools have improved, worth another look [01:54:13] matrix in replacement wouldn't be impossible but I think it could only work as one or the other and it would have to be down the road [01:56:49] as is discord has way more numbers and as a support server that counts for a lot [01:56:59] also for reaching the community [01:57:20] [1/5] libera's faq on it [01:57:20] [2/5] [01:57:21] [3/5] sunset by element [01:57:21] [4/5] [01:57:21] [5/5] Bottom line I'm getting from it is that it's a really annoying thing to maintain even both those ways let alone three [01:58:33] https://libera.chat/news/llm-etiquette interesting [01:59:16] also im watching a tech video thats interesting but the guy keeps pronounsing SQL as squeel instead of S-Q-L or sequel and it hurts a lot [02:00:38] im getting a migrain from it [02:00:59] Okay, I've never heard 'squeal' before [02:02:41] neither have I [02:02:43] A lot of people pronounce it "my sequel" and it winds me up badly [02:03:07] i mean thats how i say/hear it sometimes [02:03:25] the things with people like me is you hear most all of this in your head [02:03:49] I don't have a job or classes in this field or many close by IRL friends in tech [02:03:57] so I rarely speak this kinda stuff lol [02:04:12] I've always pronounced it MyS-Q-L [02:04:18] Kotlin is also another example [02:04:18] I remember being on VC with samuel and speaking wiki [02:04:21] it was weird [02:04:33] How do you say Kotlin... [02:04:37] Is it Kot-lin or "Coatlin"? [02:04:42] I say kotlin [02:04:53] But ive heard a lot of people say it like coat-lin [02:04:54] Same, cot-lin [02:05:00] never heard like a coat [02:05:21] Interestingly on the SQL variant [02:05:23] *execption to speaking wiki IRL is WMNYC events, mainly hack nights [02:05:34] how do you say SQLite [02:05:37] Microsoft SQL server seems to be the exception [02:05:52] "Sequel light" [02:06:03] Which differs from how I say MYSQL which is odd [02:06:22] But like with SQL server ive never heard it pronounced S-Q-L server, always sequel [02:06:35] uh huh uh huh [02:06:56] thoughts? https://youtu.be/PPjXM8G8ax0?si=hIDl9aHYuaFiTeTE&t=983 (timestampted to him saying it a bit) [02:07:19] What the hell [02:07:25] I have NEVER heard it pronounced like that [02:07:32] IKR [02:07:43] notaracham: ^ [02:08:15] https://youtu.be/PGpL5hYpY1o?si=45ZYITipUob2nHmD [02:08:18] 00:14 [02:08:25] Is how ive always heard it pronounced [02:08:41] this is kinda the same thing lol, same devs [02:09:01] Limbo is a Rust rewrite experiment of lib [02:09:16] I'm putting on the Lucy Ellis cover of Creep as a audio pallet cleanser [02:09:23] :relieved: [02:09:27] also [02:09:39] who the FUCK added a meme button to WMF Phab [02:13:31] Speaking of music [02:13:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319487840123621437/Screenshot_20241220_021323_Spotify.jpg?ex=6766244f&is=6764d2cf&hm=f6e0b795acc174abd084997b11fd7b4c7ae9582ef067954d3b4309f099940c82& [02:13:38] This is SUCH a tune [02:13:46] From Black Ops 6 [02:13:52] interesting [02:14:10] Its very heavy metal kinda indie vibes but [02:14:50] also huh WMF policy lets Phab admins who know your reset phab MFA after video call confirmation(not the prefered way but works) [02:14:56] funky [02:15:10] also phorge not having recov codes is dumb [02:16:08] Phorge be kinda dump [02:16:22] But I guess facebook never needed that? [02:16:31] Since i suppose they were all working in the same office [02:16:38] Or at least not remotely [02:18:49] facebook is two upstreams away though [02:19:22] Facebook -> Phabricator(owned by Phacility, now basically dead) -> Phorge(more community developed) [02:19:42] it also requries all of your MFA factors you set [02:20:05] for using OAuth only I don't even see the point [02:20:38] ie on MH and I think WMP both my attached accounts- ooooh rigth Wikimedia is weird about MFA access [02:21:06] lol [02:24:00] well if i enable MFA on phab, at least i know i could get it removed lol. If i can bring myself past the embarresment of asking tech folks i highly respect [02:24:40] HA good luck [05:42:05] [1/2] OFF in Steam in 2025 [05:42:06] [2/2] man [06:40:11] [1/2] 90 problems jesus I suck at Vue [06:40:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319554928183869491/Screenshot_2024-12-20_at_06.40.01.png?ex=676662cb&is=6765114b&hm=8f9b6688d1ac705bf6148add8e75504005b54540d97f58e33f69eff09d28d12b& [06:42:23] alternatively, that could be me doing a security review [06:46:59] I wonder if those are all issues in that file or in the /mediawiki directory as a whole? hmm [06:47:40] _forced to use VSCode because my JetBrains license expired :(_ [06:49:02] _btw if you ever want to do a security review of my extension (ManageWiki alt) when its done pls do, although its quite big so idk, would be fun to get an outsiders opinion I probably fucked up a lot_ [06:49:42] :3c [06:51:53] I've been working on this since december last year (half in a diff repo that I decided to start again from scratch) and its still not done 😦 am I just slow [06:52:33] _although it is pretty complex I guess so_ [11:14:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319623996622508072/bafkreievitnz25c6wxpe5hbmx6oauxsekfjcc4ezsip323ycpjcvyfcjnijpeg.png?ex=6766a31e&is=6765519e&hm=0091ac3e2f2756eaafcaac26c793ecf762b7ed06e98dfcf02ef9ddc36ba02fd9& [11:37:24] [1/2] I had one of these in my house on Wednesday afternoon. It's an Ichneumon Wasp (though they don't have stings) [11:37:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319629727069372457/Mystery_Insect.png?ex=6766a874&is=676556f4&hm=491c9a13691afdd3fd8c9ab6284ba895d64536a0b38ecdcc7a8c8d510af075c0& [11:37:51] Nice one [11:37:57] yeee neat [11:38:06] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319629902470840421/bafkreiglt6vdkfdqrqr34hyoltktxgtdddgqnm4axbbc7o2kywdy2fpvfqjpeg.png?ex=6766a89e&is=6765571e&hm=b1dfee65bb3a13d31a9be1e82fbef5564de0e3424697d62992d71fd2059ee599& [11:40:42] I tried to kill it but it flew towards the window. So I just let it out. [11:42:17] why kill if mo sting [11:42:32] My aim was off (Ichneumon Wasps are quite slow compared to social wasps, but they are pretty good at getting themselves out of danger once they detect danger) [11:42:46] I guess because it shouldn't have been in the house. [11:43:10] I directing all bugs out to the windows [11:43:26] bees, wasps, may bugs, dragonflies [11:44:08] If they are bees, I try to get them out. Though I have a phobia of stings. So it depends if I can summon the bravery to get them out. [11:44:21] couple of years ago got a really huge dragonfly 😳 [11:44:40] beautiful colors [11:44:51] If they are social wasps and I can reach for the fly spray, I spray them with fly spray. [11:49:43] [1/3] I remember the good old times with such a computer. Left floppy was system, right floppy the program. Each time you had to load the program, and you could only use 1 at the time. [11:49:44] [2/3] Then you had to change the floppy to use another program. [11:49:44] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319632825741348864/bafkreidjrm4ollydabdcqdmym5gicaocdgkqtl5j5pjrmea2n446rqk5oejpeg.png?ex=6766ab57&is=676559d7&hm=f3b0576b70de70356ca89f058cca04b20d635564c296323afa144bc1827088a0& [11:50:12] laughing [11:51:23] [1/3] That is an early IBM PC! [11:51:23] [2/3] As in early 1980’s. [11:51:23] [3/3] I was a teenager exploring the use of computers 😄 [11:52:34] These had no harddrives yet [11:54:07] aw I missed a convo [11:58:11] Can still join in though 😄 [16:12:15] I love this company https://youtube.com/shorts/KzIsgQLvntM?si=y6hkhg-nQ7BMiwzO [17:46:52] fun mini doc on hackers/bug bounties [17:46:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtj-RHEQn8M [17:48:25] Putting on this side for embed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtj-RHEQn8M [19:08:05] @pancake.aurora wtf is that let's connect nonsense anyway [19:08:10] Apart from spam [19:08:20] I have no fuckin idea [19:08:30] I am just tired of their spamming [19:08:50] I got at least 10-15 identical msg anyway and got annoyed at this stage [19:09:02] (And their blatant ignorance of WMF legal worries me even more) [19:19:37] Same [19:19:44] Im glad you said it [19:19:51] Maybe tell legal [19:20:23] That directive has been issued by legal because I yelled at the legal [19:20:39] If they ignored the result of my past yelling, I have no idea who to yell at [19:25:14] Ah [19:34:07] did phorge never have a favicon? [19:34:10] or has it broken [19:39:16] Broken [19:40:17] ow [19:56:35] Open dev console and get an error pls [20:01:43] 404 not found [20:02:09] [1/2] https://phorge-static.wikitide.net/file/data/firwedchgyu7ranim5qy/PHID-FILE-bpwh6beb4ckehppxyby2/favicon [20:02:10] [2/2] is the url its checking but that redirects to phorge instead of serving the file [20:02:25] dunno if thats intentional? [20:13:18] Hmm [20:15:31] Favicon support at phorge is tbh wtf [20:15:58] It was never documented, I found a hack from task comment to enable it, truly wtf [20:17:28] https://we.phorge.it/D25615 Should formally submit it uh [20:21:18] Probably some sort of Return of the man who yells at everything WMF [21:01:35] Will MediaWiki 1.43 support BMP icons? Will it need changes to Vector 2022 CSS? Plan to use the first stable verson of each released [21:03:03] I suggest you read the changelog once it's out [21:03:57] I plan to test on Miraheze meta (personal CSS) [21:04:14] Be a bit late once it's on meta [21:04:19] You could ask for a beta account [21:04:29] I just will update my personal wiki later [21:04:44] How do i ask for an beta account? [21:04:48] I don't think we'll be updating wikis in stages [21:05:07] I mean my wiki offsite. But I will test using Miraheze in personal CSS [21:05:11] Oh [21:05:18] Right [21:05:24] Miraheze is an helpful tool when it comes to CSS testing [21:05:34] You can get a beta account by annoying someone else with one [21:05:39] What username and email? [21:05:49] Can I DM please? [21:08:40] Go ahead @theburningfirethatscorchessouls [21:14:30] Can I keep the All Rights Reserved on my skin/content I post on Miraheze? [21:14:56] Not on beta, no [21:15:07] If it's your own wiki yes [21:15:30] So what happens if I simply say "this is all rights reserved" on it [21:15:32] Beta is CC-BY-SA [21:15:39] Debatable [21:15:48] Technically it's a copyvio [21:15:51] [1/2] Content is available under Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike 4.0 International (CC BY-SA 4.0) unless otherwise noted. [21:15:51] [2/2] I could make use of "otherwise noted" [21:16:00] And I made the skin so it is my own content [21:18:08] its beta so no one gives too much of a fuck [21:18:51] on meta: I wouldn't care much on userspace with a big notice, on mainspace I'd remove [21:19:06] Assuming you grant you agree to grant Miraheze a limited, worldwide license to redistribute the contents of your contribution for the purpose of having it on beta sure [21:19:13] Yes that is fine [21:19:20] Don't see why not [21:19:31] Please make it very explicit though [21:20:23] I am going to test the skins as well as I would like to try them out [21:21:40] I suggest a comment at the top of the css Copyright XX 202X - 2024 - All rights reserved [21:25:18] It works 100% fine it seems [21:25:48] [1/2] The left sidebar looks really neat [21:25:48] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319777801242542140/Screenshot_from_2024-12-20_21-24-14.png?ex=6767325c&is=6765e0dc&hm=11bdceac188d278ca6f5779ceab1eb4cf84d08f7c36732743cfc2af15ee56674& [21:28:22] How did you do that sidebar with headings? [21:40:59] [1/15] .skin-vector { [21:40:59] [2/15] background: linear-gradient( [21:41:00] [3/15] to bottom, [21:41:00] [4/15] transparent 0%, / Transparent at the top / [21:41:00] [5/15] rgba(8, 18, 28, 0.8) 50%, / Mid-transition at 50% / [21:41:01] [6/15] #08121c 75%, / Solid #08121c starts at 75% / [21:41:01] [7/15] #08121c 100% / Solid #08121c continues to 100% / [21:41:01] [8/15] ), [21:41:01] [9/15] url(https://web.archive.org/web/20230721235851im_/https://images8.alphacoders.com/853/853012.jpg); [21:41:02] [10/15] background-repeat: no-repeat; [21:41:02] [11/15] background-size: cover; / Ensure the image covers the container / [21:41:03] [12/15] background-color:#08121c; [21:41:03] [13/15] background-size: 100vw 100vh; [21:41:04] [14/15] } [21:41:04] [15/15] @canyada why is the image and grandient not showing? [21:44:08] probably web.archive.org isn't on the CSP [21:44:14] upload the file locally [21:45:03] IDK lisancing terms it is an wallpaper I found [21:47:30] I will find a FOSS image to be a stand in [21:50:08] [1/2] It works (I picked a freely lisanced image to be a stand in) [21:50:08] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1319783922774573087/Screenshot_from_2024-12-20_21-48-40.png?ex=6767380f&is=6765e68f&hm=03411ed064208ac5a9a5c7925c3ebc8e03f30adc017705338dd88403ef8f7e60& [21:56:51] Hey, what have you people acheved of late on your wikis? [22:35:09] It seems chrome has finally killed ublock origin. I am spiteful, angry, and finally going to start using Firefox.