[00:12:35] so far it's just links, though I'd like to prefer on-miraheze over offsite where possible [00:12:55] the second is definitely vector but I'll have to dig for the first one [00:13:51] first is apparently also vector [00:27:52] I do do not really want to use on wiki [00:30:17] Add my vector for Vector 2022 + Menevia though [02:36:01] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/c/mediawiki/skins/Cavendish/+/879967 [02:36:03] lmao [02:55:00] [1/2] no [02:55:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1326746014425551050/image.png?ex=67808c03&is=677f3a83&hm=4fca2415cde90d040e07f8532478e848bb0f5c230ae5ecc0bc08bd29974446a9& [02:55:07] And stop emailing me [02:58:29] i'd just throw it to spam [02:58:37] screw their email reputation over >:) [03:02:56] maybe [03:03:18] im gonna go read through my friend’s private journal rq brb /j [03:27:02] if it's spamming you, it's in the name [03:58:32] pffft [12:24:45] [1/2] Miraheze mention [12:24:45] [2/2] https://www.wired.com/story/how-fans-saved-sexypedia-from-being-erased-from-the-internet/ [12:34:56] idk what's going w/ this wiki rn tho [14:23:15] One step closer to that enwiki page [15:27:01] currently a bunch of people are complaining about miraheze [15:27:10] and hating on it because it got no forums on it like fandom [15:27:11] [NOWAY](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1314751845771513908.webp?size=48&name=NOWAY) [15:35:29] forums nuked forums in 2021 lol [15:36:36] all they have is an atrocity called discussions [15:37:29] i still call them forums [15:37:33] i joined fandom in 2022 [15:37:45] i think its called post UCP or smth [15:37:46] and comments, which aren't better, but Miraheze offers 3 comment extensions [15:37:47] wiki does have talk page which you can talk in any wiki pages [15:37:54] some like massive ass redesign [15:37:59] yuuup [15:38:00] so basically [15:38:03] users on my wiki [15:38:12] most of them use discussions [15:38:14] they dont edit [15:38:26] they genuienly have no clue what the hell talk pages are [15:38:30] and just despise them [15:38:37] they really just want discussions [15:38:38] nah, forums were honestly better, I've seen them in use and used w/ other admins on a wiki [15:38:59] [1/2] like they over reacted when i made this post [15:39:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1326938281497067530/image.png?ex=67813f13&is=677fed93&hm=9202539dd664f0e0b00f68f47f4edc078a5c9ab738a752e06bfeeeb58876c82a& [15:39:13] that's the biggest problem, a lot of fandom wikis suffer - they're treated as poor man's social media [15:39:17] [1/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1326938354834739212/image.png?ex=67813f25&is=677feda5&hm=022f62eba3c5ab08e909489635a5f81ebf9c0e8bf5de22e72df91cb4f86e3731& [15:39:17] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1326938355052580874/image.png?ex=67813f25&is=677feda5&hm=b1935ea501cec4eea647dceb160383a5449c32e7cb2c6ca5ccf03e83fce33f92& [15:39:18] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1326938355287720028/image.png?ex=67813f25&is=677feda5&hm=c4cc7921ef73982079e8dda23026da54fb20186822d9edd74f865a7ff7f565ca& [15:39:33] yup, same shit on fandom pizza tower wiki [15:39:43] i honestly fucking hate it [15:39:50] kids aren't allowed on social media so they use wikis for that [15:39:54] all of these users keep making posts called 'dead wiki hours" [15:40:08] according to them a wiki is dead when there's no post/reply in the last hour [15:40:11] like that [15:40:13] makes no sense- [15:40:20] and again, they dont edit pages [15:40:38] they either shitpost, argue or make actual good effort posts [15:40:45] only thing they edit is their own userpage [15:41:00] they despise talk pages (despite not knowing on how to use them) [15:41:40] they consider discussions an IMPORTANT thing for any wiki [15:42:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1326939059569950720/image.png?ex=67813fcd&is=677fee4d&hm=173b1e6e2bc610285bc72eb1c0ef414cfd15ee703d4f56f4edb273d65a67d0da& [15:42:18] honestly sad seeing this [15:42:19] [1/3] just don't pay attention at this point [15:42:20] [2/3] some will grow out of that, some will get bored [15:42:20] [3/3] wiki editors usually don't waste energy on discussions [15:42:31] this wiki's discussions used to have actual posts about the wiki and the game [15:42:47] been seeing this since october-november [15:43:00] I've seen this for years now [15:43:02] almost none of them will even move on, they'll just stay on fandom [15:43:15] only the admins, editors and the community of the game will move on [15:43:22] the community of the game hate fandom [15:43:33] they've been wanting an alternative for like a year or so [15:43:44] and that's what matter [15:43:49] i honestly i just to close the wiki once we move [15:44:14] only reason why i want this is because im currently being targeted by someone who wants to dox me [15:44:26] you know that Fandom actually doesn't allow wikis whose only point is discussions [15:44:37] leaked my email, and the cityh i live in, as soon as we leave the wiki [15:44:39] we get demoted [15:44:50] and this person gets to run rampant exposing everything about me [15:44:57] and fandom support wont even do anything [15:45:25] yeah.. [15:45:59] i might ask them to close the discussion pages at least, not only to discourage people from using fandom, but to prevent this person from leaking more info about me [15:46:29] who tho [15:46:29] did you really reported the boxer to fandom support? it's like a separate site [15:46:49] bunch of users on my wiki [15:46:53] they dont really like miraheze [15:46:56] because no discussions [15:46:59] i did [15:47:13] this person is relentless and keeps using vpns to bypass stuff [15:47:23] fandom unblocked some of their alts [15:47:52] only reason this person is doing this is because i blocked them from the wiki, and exposed them for using slurs on alternate accounts and raiding other wikis [15:48:03] I have a bootleg forum solution, but honestly - w/ such user base I suggest to continue not having forums, you and other editors will waste a lot of energy on moderation [15:48:16] we're not gonna use forums [15:48:25] we're not gonna install some forums extensions [15:48:34] we're gonna focus onl on editing [15:49:07] atp i dont give a damn if these people stick on the fandom wiki, basically keeping it at the top of search results [15:49:24] they wont realiser how much predatory stuff fandom has been doing for YEARS [15:50:21] there's quite a few things for this although none are the exact same I guess, so if they want a 1:1 social media platform they will continue to be disappointed [15:50:31] they want one [15:50:41] https://www.fandom.com/fancentral/home like this exists now [15:50:42] and if you want to focus on just editing and not do the forum thing then it's tough shit for them I suppose [15:51:01] the hell is that lol [15:51:15] do they do or are they interested in discord stuff [15:51:19] If they want a forum then discord is the best replacement [15:51:24] [1/2] social media [15:51:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1326941403045040138/image.png?ex=678141fb&is=677ff07b&hm=fadbd9ddbe3a68e6077743efbc7a2f3477d9e34d5179c9ca928cd605bf645a33& [15:51:28] they cant and wont [15:51:31] many of them cant [15:51:34] oh [15:51:44] yeah, same shit w/ such cases [15:51:45] because discord's age restriction is different in different countries [15:51:49] I'm happy to not offsource everything to discord anyway though [15:52:12] if they're of the age where, well, age is a problem on discord, then not having the forum stuff to encourage it is probably for the best [15:52:29] ugly [15:52:36] and also because discord is a weird platform for them [15:52:45] which i agree it has its fair share of weirdos [15:54:11] they dont reall want to use any other alternative [15:54:28] most of these users joined literally because of this wiki, that too like a year ago [15:54:38] so they have no clue as to why people hate fandom a LOT [15:56:50] I do support not funneling everything into discord where feasible, although I'm pretty meh on the market for alternatives [15:57:42] matrix is obscure nerd stuff that doesn't grab nearly the audience it needs to for it to be a common suggestion in most circles, irc has the really old vibe, other protocols and platforms are a thing but suffer more extreme versions of the obscurity problem [15:57:50] managing matrix + discord + irc is also very ugh [15:57:59] [cringe](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/836445791207817217.webp?size=48&name=cringe) [15:58:18] my choice would be xmpp if that had a broader support base and everything didn't try to be a messenger lookalike [15:58:38] [1/3] LIKE BRO [15:58:38] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1326943223649927230/image.png?ex=678143ad&is=677ff22d&hm=06bb6a0ab0f40b6c77222dad7eef8c106ce7c8795e6f1745fc64979f1e0bbffe& [15:58:39] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1326943223909847103/image.png?ex=678143ad&is=677ff22d&hm=20e4f7581ce6d59a4461c4e1e5a9592a81d0428302478942015d9fc318b48f38& [15:59:01] wisdom in that second screencap [15:59:52] account made 10 months ago btw [16:01:15] if only people knew [16:01:23] if only i knew when i made a fandom account [16:03:44] I've been on fandom technically quite a long time through a couple accounts, though nothing notable [23:30:07] Just when you thought discord ran out of ideas