[00:54:01] waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait whatwhatwhatwhatwhatwhat [00:54:32] [1/2] YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [00:54:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329252413869133895/image.png?ex=6789aa47&is=678858c7&hm=6d3eb81b6ed7ef6dac8d6335fc25deb3ad69062cffaf0f4720e401165240835d& [00:54:57] you have OA to thank for finally installing it lol ^^; [00:56:32] i need to know how you add it to citizen [03:33:38] [1/2] it's all same but you first should have at least one additional theme to default one defined in Common/skin CSS [03:33:38] [2/2] but switcher will look ugly, they didn't think about non-wiki.gg wikis using it [04:13:34] Hm [04:13:42] Im trying to add it to it's sidebar [04:14:11] An additional theme? How would you define it [04:16:18] read documentation, needs MediaWiki page w/ definition list and another w/ CSS and proper title + for title in switcher [04:16:43] otherwise it won't show up, it seems [04:18:00] First let me switch to desktop after like an hour or two and I'll read the documentation [05:06:26] <06000208> [1/3] Want to chime in regarding the post in #announcements, discord's email has not been compromised, and the nitro gifts that were sent out to people affected by the false ban wave were real. Confirmed by a dev on the r/discordapp & the subreddit's mods who are in touch with discord staff. [05:06:27] <06000208> [2/3] [05:06:27] <06000208> [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329315809171869707/2025-01-15-firefox-1737003820.png?ex=6789e552&is=678893d2&hm=3baf039146eee576fa1b0e87bd6f5a573262bb66c9a6ac4ec5e0c4f2a3fb8e7f& [05:08:53] <06000208> However, I absolutely agree with the message; and implore everyone to be suspicious of such things. [05:21:53] [1/2] new indie wiki [05:21:53] [2/2] https://monsterhunterwiki.org/ [05:22:13] already on first page of google after fandom, fextra abd WP article [06:25:05] yeah I mean this was the early 2000s, phone browsers weren’t exactly expected to stack up to desktop ones [06:25:45] cool, I did see this before [06:25:54] you were just expected to like use a stripped down version of MySpace or whatever [06:26:19] somebody ought to start a wiki about trains so that we can have the trainverse wiki [06:26:23] another big wiki is gonna be indie soon, but it's not up yet [06:26:25] or should i say, https://trainverse.wiki [06:27:58] that domain actually redirects to a search for trains on commons [06:28:01] incredible [06:28:04] yes [06:28:09] you can thank ity and average for that [06:29:17] I have to do something for my bootleg phone App Store thing [06:29:44] I need to make a page that takes you to a corresponding .html file depending on what’s entered [06:29:51] with no server side processing [06:29:54] or JavaScript [06:29:57] just [06:29:59] a form [06:33:38] so uh [06:33:52] I’m sure there’s some way to do it, it’s just going to be ridiculous to do [06:42:22] uh [06:42:25] wdym ridiculous [06:43:54] like [06:44:04] it will require some fucked up insane workaround [06:44:31] there needs to be a form where if you enter “1” and press go it takes you to /somedir/1.html [06:44:42] no JS, no server side [06:45:18] lord help us all [06:45:48] [1/2] though this is the browser I’m coding for so I’ll take what I can get [06:45:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329340815645868103/IMG_6386.png?ex=6789fc9c&is=6788ab1c&hm=b6e1e14e169712547f7630756082cc1feba6278336c53c7fed8ac263bcc2aa60& [06:47:37] groupnebula563_0765: i hope this is a non-static site [06:47:59] oh [06:48:00] > no server side [06:48:05] holy shit, you're insane [06:49:24] i... can't think of a way [06:49:26] good luck? [06:49:42] meanwhile i'm here waiting for four weeks for wedotyou to actually onboard me lmao [06:49:51] out of their estimate "like 6 weeks" [07:02:37] me neither [07:03:21] it might support SHTML but I think that’s it [07:05:43] [1/2] @theoneandonlylegroom yuhhh [07:05:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329345827243560960/image.png?ex=678a0147&is=6788afc7&hm=0fe5cfbd2e7d2faba63abac6aca3d716157ae20e66ccdc677d3a854df49aaaab& [07:06:10] but thats not where i want it to be [07:07:07] if it has shtml [07:07:16] http://www.ssi-developer.net/ssi/form-thankyou.shtml I think I can do this [07:14:12] ok so no shtml at least out of the box [07:14:48] however there is 1 stackoverflow post that mentions someone was able to “get it working” so I still have hope [08:01:30] + [08:01:47] moving around most likely will require js, although for dropdown in case of Timeless CSS was enough [08:24:43] well damn [08:25:09] anyways im unable to switch to a theme [08:25:17] i added css to its page and it will not update [09:20:40] have you made definition? [09:21:06] it worked [09:21:19] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329379950436028509/waterfox_qHonrrkyqG.gif?ex=678a210e&is=6788cf8e&hm=74d334c468395e56d39df8e3ba246d15687bb1dcac9255473b9e64403e94f944& [09:21:29] dont know why it didnt work for like 204948993 years but hey thats pog! [09:23:38] you know how it is w/ MediaWiki pages [11:27:30] [1/2] crashed my android firefox because of deep tumblr tag scrolling [11:27:30] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329411707382267924/IMG_20250116_141942.jpg?ex=678a3ea2&is=6788ed22&hm=a756a1252f756c40bc3e3b6eed6cd8df85d84e6716c679f6254162dbb0c8b071& [13:15:53] why isn't that icon centred within the box is the real question ugh [13:33:38] they still don't in a number of ways tbh [13:34:32] browsing on the phone has only been worth taking seriously in more recent years as it's come to dominate internet navigation [13:35:17] this 100%; yet some sites -- especially wikis -- fail to optimise for mobiles. [13:36:28] sites failing to optimize for phones invariably have a hobbyist focus or are those stranger folk who operate only via desktop [13:36:55] and I sympathize with the attitude since I use 'proper computers' as often as possible, but mobile is not wise to disregard anymore, at least for modern devices [13:40:37] [1/2] LOL 😛 [13:40:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329445204130005054/WhatsApp_Image_2025-01-16_at_14.36.01_b9fb7581.jpg?ex=678a5dd4&is=67890c54&hm=613ef0b2a5067422302930f7ce5761911823fd8a595181ab6f3585c38f8ee80d& [14:42:11] @.guardianx. It is nice just to have chatGPT to talk to about myf eelings [14:43:34] Sometimes, I just need to talk though my feelings or a wiki CSS or template related thing to someone and ChatGPT, Google Gemini and Freelancer ChatBot fills thouse roles. AI seems to be good if you give an exsample and the right prompt [14:43:54] <.guardianx., replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> I tried one for just talking about this but I just think it isn't there for me yet. Plus I don't wanna rely on somethign thats not in my own home at least because if the site goes down or something wipes out the model Iw as using, I don't wanna just not have it available. [14:44:30] <.guardianx.> But ya I 100% understand the sentiment [14:44:58] I have problems with my feelings and support workers are not aways understanding, hence turning to AI [14:48:48] chatting to AI can be good with that [14:48:56] <.guardianx., replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> Exactly, I tend to info dump, lots...LOTS of ctrl-A backspacing when I type out things. Having something where I can just type and send was nice for a bit before I hit the limit for what it can do today was nice and I look forward to the future for it [14:49:05] you're also feeding things into a data harvesting conglomerate... not so good. Hopefully self hosting will catch on more [14:49:48] ChatGPT is probly just learning about a lot of personal problems from me [14:50:37] <.guardianx.> We are all gunna find out in a few years that chat GPT was like the "grab and go Amazon store" that was really just sweatshop workers in another country watching screens. [14:50:41] <.guardianx.> LoL] [14:51:03] I rant about my housemates a lot to ChatGPT [14:51:43] it's the same principle for why I find gmail super icky, I know google trains on that [14:52:10] but there should definitely be ethical AI chatbots without the harvesting concerns (some might be in development or in the wild ready to use, I haven't looked) [14:52:44] I wonder what the people reading my chats are thinking with all those housemate and support worker related rants [14:53:00] <.guardianx.> So much risk in making a "therapyBot" like Ic an't imagine being the person that does that and it breaks and someone harms themself due to your bot. [14:53:33] the liability disclaimers would be vast [14:53:44] and it should probably be cured of inanities like eating one small pebble a day [14:54:27] I tend to play with small pebbles 🙂 [14:55:19] <.guardianx.> I tried making a very clinical bot but wow it was too clinical. Like using a 10 foot pole the whole conversation while also asking you about your emotions, super jarring. [14:56:17] I do wish that therpy did not cost so much in the USA or was so slow to get on the NHS in the UK [14:57:28] <.guardianx.> I didn't think it was that expensive, I wanna say a friend pays 120 a year for 2x visits a month. [14:58:04] I guess with AI, problem is people do abuse AI, hence why it has safity rails [14:58:12] <.guardianx.> their only issue was that their therapist that they liked moved and they do video sessions now. [14:58:40] So, a therpst AI would need a lot of such safity rails to be even close to useable [15:01:05] It would be nice to have someone to talk to about my problems at 3AM in the mroning though [15:01:07] the idea of betterhelp is good on this, but the practice is it just lathers bad help across a wider surface [15:01:12] <.guardianx., replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> [1/2] I wondered about that too, you want a therapist to connect so you need some level of emotional connection, you wanna feel validated too but not like coddled and you want reasonable feedback. Thats a really slim line to not cross where an AI has the ability to emotionally connect to such a degree where you feel like you can emotionally [15:01:12] <.guardianx., replying to theburningfirethatscorchessouls> [2/2] connect without it feeling fake. [15:02:09] <.guardianx., replying to raidarr> Was better help that service that employed non-therapists? or am I mistaking it [15:03:57] I believe so, or at least really poorly vetted ones [15:04:03] plus overextends them across too many people [18:42:16] [1/2] well fuck [18:42:16] [2/2] https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/david-lynch-blue-velvet-mulholland-drive-1236110711/ [19:37:15] <.labster> Lots of people leaving to avoid second Trump admin [19:59:22] The presidency of Hell is far more competent than anything we may find ourselves capable of electing here on Earth anyhow. 🔥 [20:05:33] <.labster> It's kinda funny because in a fanfic I'm writing, the political structure of Hell periodically changes but things somehow never get better. [20:08:37] <.labster> Satan (sexy girl version from webcomic Casey and Andy) was once Prince of Hell, but was replaced by Hild from Ah! My Goodess -- she has the title "Daimakaicho" which is a pun on "President". [20:17:09] Is this fanfiction something which you might have a wiki for? One does not simply refer to a personal fanfiction around here without also possessing a wiki related to it. 😄 [20:19:19] <.labster, replying to octavia_of_minrathous> Of course lol: https://kanrikyara.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [20:19:46] <.labster> Also not my personal fanfic, there are currently five writers [22:48:22] [1/3] Do global username changes count towards preventing a wiki from dormancy? I.e. if I visited Wiki X while logged in (hence attaching an account to the wiki), and then the stewards processed my username change request, does Wiki X's 45 day timer reset? [22:48:22] [2/3] I'm asking because I noticed my name-change does show up in "recent changes" for wikis I visited but never edited, but it seems weird for that to count as activity on the wiki. [22:48:22] [3/3] To be clear: I am curious. I do not have a preference one way or the other as to whether it "should" count, and I don't mind my username change showing up in recent changes. [22:49:42] No [22:49:58] I think I remember when working with this exact part of the code [22:50:07] theres an explict override against it [22:50:11] i woke up :3 [22:50:36] after updating my two month old arch system, only one thing broke [22:50:42] ...i think [22:50:51] i lied, two things broke [22:51:31] Morning claire [22:51:34] i have good news [22:51:46] oh? [22:52:01] you can use that AI RFC response you've had in limbo now [22:52:07] oh yay [22:52:12] or, i guess unyay? [22:52:19] whatevs, that rfc had to open eventually [22:53:13] fml i have to recompile each individual python package that moment depends on [22:54:45] i don't like python major/minor version bumps >_> [22:55:52] > /usr/bin/python: No module named build [22:55:55] what in the fuck [22:58:13] nvm, that was a package that wasn't in makedepends [22:59:39] okay, my arch system should be unbroken now [23:01:55] arch breaking is why I veer way towards debian [23:02:12] That’s the fun of it [23:02:24] I got work to do [23:02:58] I'm already a lunatic who tries to get things to run on linux not meant for linux without linux itself deciding it doesn't want to run today [23:03:10] Arch gives you an excuse not to [23:03:35] at that point I may as well pass go and slip straight into bsd [23:07:58] Oh, I don't miss arch troubleshootimg [23:09:10] Kudos to Clair for figuring it out [23:17:48] [1/2] Trump wants to change the name of the Gulf of México to América [23:17:49] [2/2] Why US doesn't let MX have something fr 😭 [23:23:52] but well https://youtu.be/Hf-xePlM-zg&t=5s [23:28:34] Dont mistake the pathetic orange man for my country plz and dank u [23:31:25] > [17/01/2025 10:09] Kudos to Clair for figuring it out [23:31:28] eh, it wasn't very hard [23:31:59] moment isn't running -> run moment in terminal -> find it depending on an old .so -> recompile package -> redo like five times for five separate packages [23:32:19] > > moment [23:32:21] > X 09:46:16 | qrc:/src/gui/Window.qml:111:5: Type PythonRootBridge unavailable [23:32:22] > X 09:46:16 | qrc:/src/gui/PythonBridge/PythonRootBridge.qml:8:1: Type PythonBridge unavailable [23:32:24] > X 09:46:16 | qrc:/src/gui/PythonBridge/PythonBridge.qml:5:1: plugin cannot be loaded for module "io.thp.pyotherside": Cannot load library /usr/lib/qt/qml/io/thp/pyotherside/libpyothersideplugin.so: (libpython3.12.so.1.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory) [23:32:25] > F 09:46:16 | One or more errors have occurred, exiting [23:32:27] > zsh: IOT instruction (core dumped) moment [23:36:40] I'm far enough removed from linuxtimes I only recognize the shape rather than undesrtand the thing, but thanks for the explainer. [23:37:06] (also trying to reconcile a massive sleep debt from work hell, so definitely not processing my best. I think I'll go fix that) [23:38:46] > [17/01/2025 09:50] theres an explict override against it [23:39:07] @pixldev and @randomizedkirbytree47 here: https://github.com/miraheze/CreateWiki/blob/58b3e73da1815347d7bfe8673cc424743f6ee6c8/maintenance/checkLastWikiActivity.php#L35-L44 [23:40:55] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Requests_for_Comment/CreateWiki_AI_%26_Wiki_Reviewers_RfC#Why?; this gives gen ai vibes lmao