[00:19:32] > [17/01/2025 11:19] why are you hiding behind a MirahezeRelay [00:19:43] dullbird173: discord effectively needs a phone number to register [00:20:05] what [00:20:08] what? [00:20:12] what? [00:20:16] nani? [00:20:28] nigerundayo!!! [00:20:31] (run in Japanese) [00:20:34] yup [00:20:42] thought I was about to get cooked [00:20:48] life flashed before my eyes [00:21:05] lmao [00:21:14] i dont fear mods that much [00:21:20] cuz well [00:21:20] but I still don't know what MOGAI means [00:21:38] ngl i heard the phrase today lmao [00:21:47] where did you hear MOGAI lol [00:21:50] where u from btw? [00:21:56] Vietnam [00:22:00] land of the talking trees [00:22:08] did a quick search on #miraheze, and couldn't find MOGAI (aside from the question) [00:22:11] HO HO HO CHI MINH!! [00:22:23] HO CHI MINH [00:22:32] great country [00:22:54] i heard it in chats [00:22:56] there's a wiki called Mogai [00:23:01] ah [00:23:10] And then uh there's editing guides [00:23:14] Marginalized Orientations, Gender Alignments and Intersex [00:23:14] To which has templates [00:23:25] oh [00:23:32] i don't see this acronym a lot, so it's kinda nice to see it [00:23:33] so that was why they mentioned genders so much [00:23:37] lmao- [00:23:38] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329607025683857488/image.png?ex=678af489&is=6789a309&hm=9147f70e226b4d999cce6e9b64d94e512ecc93f58e8f4c47b84b0b92f973e3ec& [00:23:40] Damm fancy wiki [00:23:44] wondering what that actually means lmao [00:23:45] I like the design\ [00:23:53] I thought they used genders as codenames or whatever [00:23:56] nice to eyes [00:24:01] i mean [00:24:02] see [00:24:07] Wait this is actually genius [00:24:15] sorry i sometime suck at english [00:24:24] its not my first language so [00:24:33] and its chat lol [00:24:41] don't let anyone know that i told you this, but you can get any gender you want for free- [00:25:02] ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ ๐Ÿ”ฅ [00:25:05] I can just imagine "This is a Transgender page" but Transgender actually means like just rewwritten page [00:25:12] lmfao xDDD [00:25:30] Gender piracy [00:25:48] Contact Pablo S. if you're confused [00:25:52] TheGendersBay ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ [00:25:54] The woke left is stealing the gender from the idk who to put here [00:26:08] (if you get this reference we're becoming friends) [00:26:12] Huh [00:26:28] one vampiric bite is enough to trans your gender [00:26:35] i thought pablo escobar [00:26:38] lmao [00:26:40] (i wonder if anyone got that reference) [00:26:47] No but I need to know now [00:26:51] doesn't the food they make in food wars already transform you [00:26:52] a yukoex video [00:26:54] yukkoex* [00:26:57] ohhh [00:26:58] like why are you screaming [00:26:58] Wait [00:27:02] That's the Pump person [00:27:08] the what person? [00:27:13] Pump It Up [00:27:23] They made a video on a Pump It Up arcade cabinet they bought [00:27:24] Maybe [00:27:24] I thought Yakko done got a new identity [00:27:31] wha [00:27:35] wha [00:27:38] Oh wait [00:27:39] wha [00:27:41] Wrong Yukko [00:27:50] That's the trans women who does VRChat stuff [00:27:51] I am stuff [00:28:04] so you're getting done by her? [00:28:08] @dullbird173 ๐Ÿซ‚ [00:28:10] i(obious /j) [00:28:20] SDFHKJLSFEHSAIOUEFA [00:28:24] WRONG TAB [00:28:25] I AM SO SORRY [00:28:29] ? [00:28:37] katie said I am stuff [00:28:42] kya absab dekh liya [00:28:55] but before that she said "Yukko does VRchat stuff [00:28:58] Bird said a thing and I dove half way across my desk lmao [00:29:08] I'm a cat [00:29:11] get it right [00:29:22] for some reason i read that as Yakko does VRchat stuff [00:29:30] meow :3 [00:29:35] mrrp [00:29:40] Yakko's World but you're harassed by kids [00:29:41] from when yakko left geography [00:29:45] mrreow [00:29:49] meow [00:29:52] real [00:29:53] meow meow meow [00:29:57] we're doing TCP [00:30:02] what's TCP [00:30:14] https://web.archive.org/web/20230731145239im_/https://i.redd.it/quiaie04cbfb1.png [00:30:18] and why do I see something called Warrior Cats everywehre [00:30:24] But I have never ever heard of it [00:30:36] Lmao [00:30:45] Lemme dump that in the trans groupchat [00:30:46] Gimme a sec [00:30:53] What does TCP mean? TCP meaning Transmission Control Protocol, is a communications standard for delivering data and messages through networks. TCP is a basic standard that defines the rules of the internet and is a common protocol used to deliver data in digital network communications. ๐Ÿค“ ||(I know its unrelated)|| [00:30:59] lmao, hell yeah :3 [00:31:37] [1/2] da heil [00:31:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329609035464577157/quiaie04cbfb1.png?ex=678af668&is=6789a4e8&hm=4135ca8adeee2c5c719780e832b32cd753e8b28abf03972c7bc483be53834fec& [00:31:38] so do you know that there was this guy named robert golf who worked for the CIA to do astral projection but then while doing one for too long he died and got 5 seconds of heaven found footage which was then promptly stolen by the Vatican [00:31:46] god what places have I been in to know this conspiracy [00:31:50] today i learned [00:32:49] did you know that when ever there's a major war or a conspiracy the pizza order and delivery call rates increase near pentagon [00:33:03] that's surface level stuff [00:33:04] oooh~ [00:33:10] true though [00:33:22] you know that humans in the future when there's no matter of energy left travel back in time to cause chaos and use chaos as currency [00:33:38] suddenly reminded of witch's heart for some reason [00:33:48] olden times though [00:33:51] during cold war [00:34:12] do y'all know about god's ego death and god's last wish [00:34:46] real [00:34:59] so essentially god's ego death is basically during- [00:35:02] wait a min [00:35:15] that theory is both NSFW and heretical [00:35:19] nah not risking it [00:35:23] hell naw [00:35:35] why you gotta say that, i'm curious now [00:35:48] But God's Last Wish on the other hand is essentailly when God was about to die, disappear of whatever else he gave humans free will [00:35:54] or at least that's one facet of it [00:36:01] [1/2] Okay whoever brought up the MOGAI wiki I owe you one [00:36:01] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329610142043340831/image.png?ex=678af770&is=6789a5f0&hm=fbd95a2c2114faaf0e0ed67a7db38a2cbbb40960f68213a290b7c5632d0d82d3& [00:36:02] so that they could become like God [00:36:07] wait that's also heretical [00:36:27] where's walmart bag? [00:36:30] ? [00:36:37] 4channers are a different species atp [00:36:38] blahaj bag :3 [00:36:44] r/onejoke [00:36:49] I just thought it was interesting that people identify so strongly with 4chan that they identify(?) as it [00:36:58] I need a tool belt for Blahaj [00:37:07] blahaj su- [00:37:09] https://lehleo.com/ikea-launches-the-new-blahaj-shark-eco-bag-extra-large-capacity-and-durable-for-only-rm8-90/ [00:37:16] > [17/01/2025 11:37] blahaj su- [00:37:20] don't you dare complete that sentence [00:37:22] he's watching you [00:37:23] https://www.youtube.com/shorts/EEvKrA6Vr9w [00:37:35] ohhhh [00:37:43] there was a meme about it [00:37:51] i couldn't find it though [00:38:00] so i just sent that one [00:38:20] It was probably started by "sigma males" to make fun of trans people or something along those lines [00:38:34] https://www.reddit.com/r/shitposting/comments/ykoa45/i_now_identify_as_a_walmart_bag_plz_respect_that/ [00:38:36] hell yea [00:38:37] Walmart bag has been around for a while [00:38:45] I think it was just a really bad prompt on a site [00:38:50] well I mean a lot of things were created to make fun of people [00:38:50] Not really transphobia [00:38:55] no can do is one of them [00:39:01] or just inspect element [00:39:13] If it was inspect element than that might be more transphobic [00:39:13] god I hate HTML and CSS [00:39:19] but it wouldn't be the first time I have seen something like that [00:39:21] https://files.catbox.moe/l1m5yq.jpg [00:39:32] i think it was a choose your own gender [00:39:36] No way shork [00:39:38] because it said 'other gender' [00:39:45] and the person just had to fill it out [00:39:53] he there =w= [00:40:03] he may or may not own a baseball bat [00:40:08] he looks like he's some genius shark commander hacker of atlantis [00:40:16] > hacker [00:40:23] considering transfems and computer touchers, that sounds about right [00:40:24] hack wjat [00:40:29] dolphin's association [00:40:35] [1/2] :3 [00:40:36] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329611291081576530/l1m5yq.png?ex=678af882&is=6789a702&hm=4bab9379fe4c1492363b269d9789d91ba548d6552590349db02aa4db8443c17b& [00:40:43] holy shi 14 mb image? [00:40:44] new meme just dropped [00:40:51] but you know what else is still big? [00:40:59] no [00:41:06] why did you make it 14 MB [00:41:08] I don't have oxipng on me noooo [00:41:10] LOW TAPER F- [00:41:16] I wanted to compress the image [00:41:17] :( [00:41:20] Ohhhh Miraheze storage ๐Ÿ˜Ž [00:41:32] why do donations cap at $10000 [00:41:39] it's not really a cap, it's more of a goal [00:41:41] and how are we sure that some person won't just steal it [00:41:43] i just coped the image from catbox [00:41:48] oh [00:41:54] Auditing [00:42:00] And also iirc Miraheze is affilated with Wikipedia [00:42:06] uh, very much not ^^; [00:42:10] now that you mention it [00:42:11] Oh [00:42:16] who funds Wikipedia [00:42:20] the wikimedia foundation [00:42:23] Wait I thought both were owned by Wikimedia? [00:42:30] *use wikimedia [00:42:31] Didn't you guys partner or smth [00:42:31] nah, miraheze is independent from the WMF [00:42:34] wait it's mediawiki [00:42:38] wait what [00:42:38] but miraheze uses the mediawiki software [00:42:38] Ah my bad [00:42:38] Sorry [00:42:41] i'm getting confused [00:42:57] Wikimedia is sustained by donations. Millions of remarkable individuals and institutions ensure that we have the necessary resources to continue our global mission. [00:43:00] i love the wikipedia, mediawiki, and wikimedia naming convention [00:43:03] capitalists [00:43:14] WikiMedia Foundation (WMF) is a group responsible for Wikipedia's operation among other projects. [00:43:16] fire writingt [00:43:28] copied ๐Ÿคซ [00:43:34] Visual Editors bros stay losing (we are never getting updates) [00:43:34] Their wikis are powered by the MediaWiki software, which they develop and make available to others [00:43:35] definitely does not cause 10 minutes of confusion when you wonder why mediawiki/css-sanitizer wasn't installing until you noticed that it should be wikimedia/css-sanitizer [00:43:49] Miraheze also uses MediaWiki as its base, as does Fandom and many other hosts [00:44:11] most popular wiki software [00:44:21] Lmao nah they used to not like us actually [00:44:24] is VE never gonna get updated [00:44:33] it's so trash compared to Source [00:44:36] used to? [00:44:43] Our cofounder is actually OFFICE Banned by the WMF [00:44:48] Itโ€™s getting better I think [00:44:51] ah okay [00:44:55] holy [00:44:59] what did Miraheze even do [00:45:03] Then again I may be biased [00:45:08] What does that mean? [00:45:14] Since I meet with Wikipedia folk irl regularly [00:45:15] i'm curious about the events that transpired, but i only existed like 9 months ago [00:45:16] you can't go to their HQ basically [00:45:21] Miraheze is its own org, also a non-profit, currently operated by the WikiTide foundation. None of our current members or volunteers are office-banned (to my knowledge) [00:45:21] communism ๐Ÿคซ (Sorta) [00:45:24] did you just spawn [00:45:30] The foundation banned him globally per terms of service [00:45:31] aren't we a democracy [00:45:38] He also was a contractor for them [00:45:38] yeah, i spawned into the rainverse wiki [00:45:41] Ouch [00:45:41] thats why i said sorta [00:45:47] Office no [00:45:51] Damn [00:45:58] That's unfortunate [00:45:59] Hilariously, BWM is still locked from his CIR days [00:46:04] Why don't they like us? [00:46:05] Ah, fair [00:46:20] Yeah. That and the constant instability lead to a pretty shit reputation [00:46:30] It was one of the main drivers for the rename [00:46:40] do we know much about the john on the wmf side of things? [00:46:40] hmm [00:46:44] Itโ€™s not an active hate, it was more bad rap [00:46:50] Not worth rehashing [00:46:52] queer stories that have a central plot besides that and aren't just overly woke are my favorite [00:47:03] There are people who know the reason, but itโ€™s not public [00:47:19] Wiki hosts beef is crazy work [00:47:19] the first clause was kinda obvious, but i was more questioning about the second part [00:47:20] I love to see casual representation [00:47:21] oh well [00:47:32] (Iโ€™m cishet) [00:47:48] i follow like four trans comics lmao [00:47:53] Carmen Sandiago and She Ra I think do good at that [00:47:57] hmm guess i am the only one who doesnt read here [00:48:02] i like the "oh this girl's queer but it doesn't affect the story too much" but not "gah cleopatra is black!" [00:48:03] books i mean [00:48:10] BBL [00:48:20] WHY did i read that as BBC [00:48:27] i thought you meant brazilian b- l- [00:48:31] like who tf thinks cleopatra is black [00:48:35] excuse me?? [00:48:35] I'm following like 10 [00:48:41] netflix apparently [00:48:43] > [17/01/2025 11:48] I'm following like 10 [00:48:45] names? :3 [00:48:49] British Broadcasting Channel [00:48:59] mine are I want to be a cute anime girl, My Impossible Soulmate, Rain, The Prettiest Platypus [00:49:10] i also want to be a cute anime girl [00:49:12] I wanna hop on rain [00:49:20] Hence the edit [00:49:22] Prettiest platypus is peak [00:49:36] A Platypus? [00:49:41] not just a platypus... [00:49:44] The Prettiest Platypus! [00:49:45] cute though [00:49:52] PERRY THE PLATYPUS? [00:49:53] It's a metaphor โœจ [00:49:57] platypus are cute [00:49:59] https://www.webtoons.com/en/canvas/the-prettiest-platypus/list?title_no=463063 [00:50:04] If perry transitioned what would her name be [00:50:04] ...does no one get the reference [00:50:24] Phineas and Ferb I got you man [00:50:29] i didnt [00:50:33] sadly [00:50:45] the east has fallen ||/j|| [00:51:20] i now just realized that my world's wiki can't be a primary source [00:51:26] so yeah I'm cooked [00:51:33] https://tenor.com/view/stalin-stare-gif-27555883 [00:51:36] I need to create another thing to cite [00:51:49] this succks [00:51:57] For Wikipedia? [00:52:03] No [00:52:10] I used Miraheze for my world's wiki [00:52:12] i managed to cite a facebook post on wikipedia lol [00:52:18] But it can't be a primary source as stated in the rules [00:52:20] archivable too [00:52:26] So yeah Google Docs it is [00:52:33] I'm washed [00:52:42] I cited my own Miraheze wiki on a school project [00:52:52] Not going to lie, still proud of that [00:52:57] that's not allowed I think- [00:53:09] lmao- [00:53:12] It is if you make it fancy enough [00:53:15] YES [00:53:23] I wanna cite myself one day [00:53:27] cough cough lovebullet.wiki cough cough [00:53:29] now that's the type of rule breaking i want to see [00:53:33] top 10 life goals: [00:53:47] [1/2] the source in our wiki are [00:53:47] [2/2] I made it the f up [00:53:48] be so famous you can cite yourself and no one bats an eye [00:53:58] bruh this [00:54:05] where are gonna find source for alt history [00:54:06] the sources on my wiki are 15 citations on one sentence [00:54:06] canw e just make this apply to otherr people [00:54:20] I'm literally the Bureaucrat AND creator of the world [00:54:30] that's tough [00:54:36] sorry, 14 [00:54:39] even wikipedia don't have that much [00:54:41] sounded like some god type shi [00:54:47] So what are you doing thar doesn't allow u to cite ur wiki? [00:54:49] at least it was all confined to like oen chapter [00:54:57] my self-insert OC killed God so IDK [00:55:22] some real shi [00:55:48] she also fourth wall breaks casually [00:56:00] so her article is actually jjust her talking to the reader [00:56:10] avg south indian actor and anime mc [00:56:37] Link? [00:56:39] RRR peak [00:56:43] I wanna see this [00:56:48] (what message are you replying to?) [00:56:54] god movie actually [00:57:13] arguably best indian move of all time [00:57:19] not the best but on top [00:57:51] Your message about having 15 citations in one sentence. I was curious how it looked [00:57:52] If you don't have it it's fine [00:57:52] colonial story [00:57:52] like it [00:57:53] Or maybe you weren't talking to me I'll stop now [00:57:53] it was truly like that [00:57:54] oh god the song is still stuck in my head [00:58:09] dosti, ambar se toda, natu natu [00:58:14] i t ' s b e e n 9 m o n t h s [00:58:24] ruckerenum: CW: spoilers for Rain: [00:58:32] why do I still remember the beef [00:59:02] how are there 1000 plus issues [00:59:05] Oh wait Damm I've been meaning to read this [00:59:10] oops [00:59:12] Oh well I'll just squint [00:59:17] i can screenshot it [00:59:29] how are there 1000 plus issues [00:59:34] Oh good god [00:59:35] or did the author just lock in [00:59:46] because there's >1k pages? [00:59:56] oh those are pages? [01:00:01] wdym issues lol [01:00:17] manga thing [01:00:22] fancy word for books [01:00:26] oh [01:00:28] or small books or whatever IDK [01:00:41] ah, yeah, lynn releases a page typically every monday, wednesday, and friday [01:00:41] doesnt manga means comic [01:00:49] Rain has ended now, after 11 years of running [01:01:02] happy ending? [01:01:14] 00,00yes [01:01:17] impressive [01:01:30] โค๏ธโ€๐Ÿ”ฅ [01:01:31] insert cinema celebrating gif [01:02:05] lemme guess ||the MC gets married and lives happily ever after|| [01:02:28] 00,00HOW did you guess that right- [01:02:31] avg south indian movie ending [01:02:39] telugu cinema [01:02:41] like literally [01:02:45] i know tropes too well [01:02:47] true [01:03:28] telugu characters dancing after the antagonist just gor brutally murdered: [01:03:48] I am going to assume that says no [01:03:49] real [01:03:52] I need a good tragedy [01:04:02] NOOOOOOOO [01:04:04] ruckerenum: i have a couple video games if you like tragedies [01:04:14] Hit me [01:04:28] i hate fandom that just angsts the characters [01:04:31] OMORI, END ROLL, the Witch's Heart series [01:04:33] like what do you mean he dies [01:04:45] Oh god omori [01:04:52] Great game [01:04:59] psychological horror [01:05:01] Good god I cried hard on true end [01:05:10] i'm talking like ||seven genocides, thirteen wars and fourteen war crimes|| aren't committed in Third Millennium every single day [01:05:41] balkan lore [01:05:54] south asia is just asian balkans [01:06:26] i'm still wondering how buddhism spread to china [01:06:29] did it go through tibet [01:06:40] or did it bypass the mountains by going through Thailand and Indochina [01:07:33] unrelated but what style of talking just pisses you off [01:07:34] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329618079512264775/p15wtm9ro3de1.png?ex=678afed5&is=6789ad55&hm=27e1f5fca091d36726a0df7b08552e3faa62ec11c7d1bc4fd945dd43256b4a95& [01:07:36] for more games, see https://wm-bot.wmcloud.org/browser/index.php?start=01%2F12%2F2025&end=01%2F12%2F2025&display=%23miraheze-offtopic#:~:text=2025-01-12%2016:55:18,sad%3F [01:07:56] and https://transfem.social/notes/a2xgx51duke9013n [01:08:21] Oneshot is on my list [01:08:24] Love the concept [01:08:27] oh is the story just like web comics [01:08:30] one funny skit pages [01:08:35] I was on Linux for the longest time so I never played it [01:08:46] as in rain I mean [01:09:07] it's not just skits, but yeah, it's a webcomic [01:09:41] is it a ||180 story that just changes in the middle of nowhere because the author stopped doing it for fun|| [01:09:44] linux ahh it performs better on pc's with fast storage [01:09:52] I hate the penguin [01:09:55] 00,00nah [01:09:59] ๐Ÿ˜  [01:10:19] Linux is trash [01:10:25] wha [01:10:30] proud mac os user [01:10:39] I use Windows [01:10:47] saar [01:10:49] ...11 because my dumb ahh didn't know it was bad [01:10:56] now I'm regretting everything [01:11:01] Yeah but it doesn't work for stuff like oneshot [01:11:03] first homo sapien that i saw who likes windows [01:11:06] Atleast the way I had it all setup [01:11:10] i have a windows 10 and xp vm lol [01:11:20] Smarter than me [01:11:24] i am running 2003 on a vm [01:11:28] wait [01:11:29] I had a win 11 vm I used for video work [01:11:36] I have nothing to do y'all want me to just loredump my world for no reasn [01:11:58] i was just about to say "hmm, i can make a wiki based on your world" [01:12:00] until- [01:12:04] see [01:12:07] yeah i already have one [01:12:08] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329619232488423424/IMG20250116211930.png?ex=678affe8&is=6789ae68&hm=37f7feaf39f0aad539c223d4bcf3d4631977f8a91b5c5b72ce251da3aa32c671& [01:12:14] that's why I am on Miraheze in the first place [01:12:21] and for claire https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/615786602454581249/1329619232488423424/IMG20250116211930.png?ex=678affe8&is=6789ae68&hm=37f7feaf39f0aad539c223d4bcf3d4631977f8a91b5c5b72ce251da3aa32c671&=&format=webp&quality=lossless [01:12:22] thirdmillennium btw but it's trash [01:12:40] kingplaystation: wtf firefox 134? [01:12:42] i'm so bad that I used preformatted to look like those cute boxes [01:12:48] latest firefox on windows 2003 [01:12:52] yup [01:12:52] i- [01:12:53] how [01:13:00] one core api [01:13:08] ? [01:13:08] extented kernel [01:13:12] huh! [01:13:12] what do the numbers mean Mason [01:13:18] WHAT DO THEY MEAN [01:13:19] pretty good [01:13:39] https://win32subsystem.live/extended-kernel/ [01:13:40] vista? [01:13:45] no [01:13:56] https://github.com/Skulltrail192/One-Core-API-Binaries [01:14:15] ah [01:14:24] it can allow xp/2003 to run gta 5 [01:14:27] wow [01:14:28] crazy [01:14:29] that's... amazing [01:14:44] i'm reminded of one user who asked why images weren't loading on windows xp [01:14:55] people were like "wtf get something newer" [01:14:58] and i'm like [01:15:05] that's AMAZING! why isn't it working?? [01:15:29] lol [01:15:50] crazy that 2025 apps run on a 2001 software [01:15:56] 24 years difference [01:16:04] rare screenshot: https://files.catbox.moe/6p88x9.png [01:16:08] does anybody want me to loredump [01:16:17] if not I;m gonna just leave because I'm not a techie [01:16:28] i love watercolour theme [01:16:33] saaame [01:16:59] and i m the opposite [01:17:04] Shangri-La is literally the name of underground Laotian-Tibetan Empire bruh [01:17:05] i am a tech nerd [01:17:11] holy [01:17:23] glory to tibbot [01:17:28] don't ask what trans people get up to okay? (/j) [01:17:33] in a world where all conspiracy theories are true things are gonna bound to be crazy [01:17:39] We all have our special interests in these here parts. [01:17:57] indeed [01:18:00] <.labster> Whatโ€™s wrong with retrocomputing? XP was pretty cool [01:18:10] And boy howdy are we capable of multipage infodumps [01:18:13] agreed [01:18:26] So essneitally [01:18:35] lots of us are computer touchers ^^; [01:18:39] [1/2] basically [01:18:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329620870766923856/IMG20250116211930.png?ex=678b016e&is=6789afee&hm=cd8447c169422c21192e71a63f194f6bdd7cd916541fdb5d9b427737173f83ca& [01:18:47] yep xp is cool [01:19:02] i luv it [01:19:29] i don't put my xp vm fully on the network unfortunately, because microsoft has made me essentially paranoid of their OS [01:19:38] I'm not fully confident that'll be TLS 1.3 compatible once we disable 1.2 ๐Ÿ˜… [01:20:01] i repaired my pc with a nail [01:20:04] how [01:20:12] yanking out the ram [01:20:14] let it run [01:20:17] turn it off [01:20:21] yank ram in [01:20:24] turn on [01:20:33] oh yea when its out [01:20:43] u gotta short bios pins [01:20:53] Ahhh yes [01:20:56] i thought my bios chip was broken [01:20:58] but [01:20:59] no [01:21:02] it was broken asf [01:21:07] When you don't have a bump thingy, become one [01:21:18] real [01:21:18] I forget the proper name for it [01:21:36] first time i did that with the gold part of ram [01:21:48] as those are parts are crazy conductive [01:22:00] ill send a video one day [01:24:00] Jumper cap, that's what I was looking for. Damn that was a weird part to Google. [01:26:22] oh my mobo aint that fancy sadly [01:26:33] Nails it is then [01:26:40] gigabyte ga-h81m-ds2 [01:27:11] [1/2] and when thats not in hand [01:27:12] [2/2] THE RAM BECOMES THE NAIL ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ ๐Ÿ”ฅ [01:28:40] well the kernel extender takes care of that [01:28:53] it installs a lot of patches [01:28:59] [1/6] Third Millennium is a catch-all world that's somehow all alternate history, sci-fi and high fantasy and literally every other genre you can think of. There's four main settings: the New World (Mundane World), the Veiled World, the Ring Worlds and Eden. [01:29:00] [2/6] The New World is the AH part. Essentially, Hitler dies in 1941, which somehow leads to the Axis and Allies stalemating and signing a peace treaty. From then on, four major blocs (United Republics led by the grand Republic of Columbia, formerly the United States, including all of NA, Grand Colombia, Peru and Bolivia; Greater Pan-Asian Co-Prosperity Sphere led by the Heavenly manda [01:29:00] [3/6] te of Japan, stretching from Nepal to Kamchatka and to Sulawesi; the Reichspakt, sometimes known as the Rome-Berlin Axis their old name, led by Germany, including Spain, Italy, Turkey, Hungarian-Finnish New Prussian Empire; and the Imperial Federation, led by the Holy Empire of great Britain, including exiled Imperial Portugal, Imperial Denmark, Imperial France in West Africa, as [01:29:00] [4/6] well as Kenya, Azawad and some others) who are in a 1984-esque cold war that will explode the kettle in 2000. There's also some magic due to Meteor Radiation and tecnology is sci-fi due to a material called Byrium. Everything is terrible forever. [01:29:01] [5/6] The Veiled World is the conspiracy side of things. IT is the hidden supernatural world that seperated from the NW in 1300 following the Treaty of Two Equators. There's three big factions, called the Trians, being: The Council of Arcane and esoteric Affairs (CAEA), known as the Bureaucrats, who manage the civilian side of the veiled World; the Septem Nomina, known as the Acacias, [01:29:01] [6/6] a ragtag coalition of VW factions including the Freemasons (Seocnd Order of Grazi), the Knights Templar, and Rosicrucians; and finally the big bad evil [01:29:03] lore dump [01:29:35] > every other genre you can think of [01:29:35] bro i dont get why alt history has to be about ww1 or ww2 [01:29:40] it better be gay as hell /s [01:29:41] germany winning or [01:29:54] lmao [01:30:05] wait i know a game but thats a dating sim [01:30:10] based in ww1 though [01:30:21] never heard of a ww1 dating sim [01:30:36] https://en.uncyclopedia.co/wiki/Finno-Korean_hyperwar [01:30:48] guys, the Roundtable Thirteen, or the New World Order, consisting of the Illuminati, funded by the Reptillians. The latter two have been in a war lasting for millenniums for control of Earth, the home of God's Chosen Few and the great Mother of Balance; Her. [01:30:55] actual thing in TM [01:31:05] It was a war between the Suomin Khaganate and the hwan Empire [01:31:06] i am in [01:31:47] And was ended with the activation of the Giza mass Autism Array which led to the end of the Fourth Epoch of Humanity [01:32:00] [1/2] thx to our genius at aceistan community [01:32:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329624230857277483/Screenshot_2025-01-17_at_07-31-32_Aceistani_Republic_Aceistan_-_Aceistan_Wiki.png?ex=678b048f&is=6789b30f&hm=3476e4a111d2b6cc68a0048af3e448601756d95aeb9aef16cf7bdab1cbb930f4& [01:32:25] real [01:32:30] i mean [01:32:57] Aceistan itself does not view the People's Republic of China as a Legitimate state, neither Republic of China (Taiwan). another banger by an fellow community member [01:33:20] no way, mass autism army [01:33:29] indeed [01:33:33] anyway, i should eat now, i'm hungy [01:33:41] cya [01:34:01] The Ring Worlds (https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/wiki/Ring_Worlds. Unfinished. Lots of are bound to change) are a series of nine worlds that used to surround Earth during the Celestial Sea period. The largest one is called "Superia" and is the size of Jupiter. They're basically the high fantasy part. Heavily inspired by Beyond the ice Wall [01:34:26] holy [01:34:36] https://www.reddit.com/r/worldbuilding/comments/14i8v2s/the_final_definitive_beyond_the_ice_wall_30/ [01:35:17] [1/2] holy [01:35:17] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329625056812339200/Screenshot_2025-01-17_at_07-35-05_Organizations_-_Third_Millennium.png?ex=678b0554&is=6789b3d4&hm=ff69181f982ffac352dae8fba3050fdd71088657c47c463f9aa5ec6021021483& [01:35:27] greater autism than aceistan [01:35:32] i respect that [01:35:36] count me in [01:35:41] Now Eden is the rest of the Galaxy. There's five main powers: the Galactic Federation, the Astral Republics, the Outer Confederation, the Athraxi Empire and the United Alliance. [01:35:50] i did this all by myself [01:35:58] and there's way more in lore I haven't added [01:36:09] the only reason taht I haven;t filled it up is I'm too lazy [01:36:19] Maybe you can throw in an original VW faction or two [01:36:31] But there's not much to work off [01:36:46] And Cosmology isn't done yet and I haven't even begin to deal with the Iceberg [01:37:17] wait if aceistan exist in finno-koreanic hyperwar timeline that means its also in THIRD MILLENNIUM timeline??? [01:37:50] @dullbird173 i might have a theory [01:37:57] TM Earth is a nexus of many dimensions and timelines [01:38:06] in the Ring Worlds article Yuneria is one of those connected worlds [01:38:15] But Aceistan is cooked [01:38:33] why?!? [01:38:43] Because everyone is genocidal and Japan alone has 400 system destorying lazer satellites in orbit enar Mercury [01:38:50] that uses mini suns as energy [01:39:41] They're Called "Amaterasu Miniature Solar Orbital Lasers" [01:39:46] or "AMSOL" [01:39:58] One AMSOL could destroy our Earth with a single shot [01:40:06] And. Japan. Has. 400. Of. Them [01:40:08] hirohito returns [01:40:18] Hirohito is literally God Emperor [01:40:24] mandated by the Heavens [01:40:35] But he's actually dead [01:42:10] Anyways do you want to contribute to the wiki [01:42:15] Please don't touch anything too important [01:42:23] I haven't written anything yet as a basis [01:42:40] okie [01:42:57] ye why not [01:43:03] learned lore fr [01:43:15] where tho [01:43:19] so I can provide lore info [01:43:24] gib [01:43:35] as in where exactly you're gonna contribute [01:43:39] too much lore to say everything [01:43:49] or else it would be bigger than Miraheze storage [01:43:50] umm organisation?? [01:43:54] Well [01:44:09] Veiled World? [01:44:13] oki [01:44:19] Hmm... [01:46:02] [1/2] The Veil is a metaphorical and literal term to describe the physical barrier that keeps the Veiled World and Natural Worlds apart. Imagine you're a chill guy making coffee when you see a dash in the corner of your eye. Weird. You think. But you continue on. In reality, it was the goblins ready to uncharge your phone in the middle of the night, but they are hidden by the LITERAL V [01:46:03] [2/2] eil, which is managed by the Veil Interlinked Security Administration (VISA) and reality anchors that keep everything hidden. [01:46:42] hmm [01:46:55] i see [01:46:59] <.labster> Is this just lore or do you have stories written? [01:47:07] To be able to see it, one must stumble upon a secret gateway, which can be anything from a door to stairs in the woods and by going through them, you enter into a whole new world. You will start to see some rather big microbes running around. Maybe even a bigger fire ant or two. In fact, you could see a orc cycling around. [01:47:10] lore [01:47:16] avg alt history writter [01:47:17] wanna go for something like SCP [01:47:35] I might add a Stories category once it gets popular [01:47:38] its canon in aceistan [01:47:48] lmao [01:47:56] whar [01:48:02] tru [01:48:08] Well TM's version of the Foundation is the Eclipse Initiative [01:48:23] thx once again to our genius in aceistan community [01:48:27] Created by the Allies in 1950 to act as their own CAEA [01:49:01] It then immediately split off once they realized the Allies were going crazy and sorta became a smaller CAEA that didn't do civlian stuff but just the 'deal wiht danger' part [01:49:11] It's unaligned but it has connections with the Galactic Federation [01:49:16] Making it stronger than it appears [01:49:35] holy [01:49:42] Oh right and the Veiled World is a bit crazy [01:49:47] its a rabbit hole [01:50:00] It's half fancy vampires drinking champaigne and half golden cows destroy Delhi [01:50:18] [1/2] literally this person's discord server is controlled by us [01:50:18] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329628835444031549/Screenshot_2025-01-17_at_07-49-24_Ace_Animations_-_YouTube.png?ex=678b08d9&is=6789b759&hm=21db305c0a5ac251266ad54d7d61704acb40f8f1865b79e6f32590c451cafccf& [01:50:28] yup and hes my friend [01:50:37] fr [01:50:41] is aceistan where he got the name [01:50:49] aceistan's former monarch [01:50:54] sorta [01:51:10] ^^^above. Make a funny organization because that seems to be where you're specialized in [01:51:19] IDK, some Finno-Koreanic University [01:51:23] real [01:51:37] Run by the Underground Korean Utopia and the Khaganate of Un-Finlandia [01:51:42] <.labster, replying to kingplaystation> I mean, my stuff is on AO3. It's not that hard to go the next step and write stories, it just takes endurance. [01:52:14] alr I gtg go eat and do some other stuff [01:52:19] PLEASE don't vandalize the wiki [01:52:36] oh nice [01:52:42] oka [01:52:51] promise i wouldn't [01:57:51] crazy info dump [01:58:55] That really is the hard bit, turning ideas into compelling narrative and keeping at the refinement until you've got something finished enough [01:59:12] Labster is such a fun bundle of contradictions [01:59:57] Running TTRPGs for folks is what got me over some personal perfectionism that scared me off of sharing my work [02:00:12] should i put my theme designer for my skin in the skin like cosmos or as a separate extension hmmm [02:01:01] sure why not [02:01:13] Evelution is why not [02:01:18] <.labster, replying to pixldev> Me writing things rather than helping Miraheze basically [02:02:10] No those things go together comparatively [02:02:37] (no dig against anyone who likes that skin, it's just waaaaay too many buttons on every page for me) [02:03:08] haven't seen that skin [02:03:13] tried to look but dis broken https://skins.toolforge.org/index.php?useskin=evelution [02:03:20] rip [02:03:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329632244863733770/image0.png?ex=678b0c06&is=6789ba86&hm=7f29d9a1355ab98202997d174f05c121e3371d2fd0dee3643edcb7f25cc4dbcb& [02:04:03] Everything's a button on the land of evelution [02:04:05] ugh [02:04:10] what the hell is that [02:04:23] All buttons all day [02:04:34] <.labster> Needs more buttons [02:04:40] 88x31 [02:04:42] definitely designed by a backend engineer [02:04:44] At least 30 more [02:05:06] https://www.theresnotime.co.uk/#buttons [02:05:11] <.labster> I love messy interfaces, you can actually acomplish things with them [02:05:34] ahh very cool looking though [02:05:40] this is why i don't like vector [02:05:48] things are everywhere and nowhere you need them [02:05:53] wait [02:05:54] imagine [02:05:57] monobook was the same, although i do kinda like monobook [02:06:01] replacing all the buttons on a skin with 88x31 buttons [02:06:21] ... ๐Ÿค” [02:06:46] A... Button wiki [02:06:53] Is this anything? [02:07:00] https://github.com/AWikia/SkinEvelution/blob/main/SkinEvelution.php [02:07:03] sorry this is horrid [02:07:12] why would you put everything in one file [02:07:14] no no no no [02:07:34] ooo, trauma incoming? [02:07:36] <.labster> This is reminding me of the guy who collected buttons in Detectorists. [02:08:04] <.labster> [1/5] Meanwhile in WikiForum land: [02:08:05] <.labster> [2/5] > private static function showMainHeaderRow( $title1, $title2, $title3, $title4, $title5 = '' ) { [02:08:05] <.labster> [3/5] > $output = '' . $title1 . '/th'; [02:08:05] <.labster> [4/5] > ... [02:08:05] <.labster> [5/5] Such interface, many secure wow [02:08:21] beri sekur [02:08:39] they also fix CSRFs by making it use the action api instead of doing the edit token check ))))) [02:09:26] just seems really poor from wikiforum to even be doing the deletions with a get request in the first place [02:09:40] agreed [02:09:43] tbf that whole extension is probably better just being removed from the face of the earth [02:09:46] But could they make it... a button? [02:09:53] yeah probably [02:09:58] i mean, iirc it's a [02:10:20] <.labster> ` * @note Caller(s) should escape the $titleN variables!` ๐Ÿ˜ญ [02:10:20] instructions unclear sudo rm -r extensions/WikiForum [02:10:56] this is giving "cant be arsed to do it myself so if you call this method do it for me" [02:11:06] yup seeing that i remembered i gotta ssh back to my friends system to update mediawiki [02:11:18] <.labster> Basically the backend is okay and well designed, the frontend is very 2002. [02:11:18] hes in the usa and i am in bangladesh ๐Ÿ˜ญ [02:11:21] latency is huge [02:11:45] Oh that's quite the Internet tube to traverse, yes [02:11:55] originalauthority: reminds me of that one time yaron did that instead of making a function accept plain text just in case a caller wanted to do html [02:11:58] <.labster> a whole series of tubes [02:12:18] not surprising from yaron [02:12:39] https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T379749#10397327 [02:13:03] <.labster> A lot of times the stuff you write in corporate contexts just plain doesn't need to be as secure, because the only people who have even read access are employees. [02:13:34] yeah but you need to be about 110% more secure in mediawiki because you're essentially giving everyone access to edit [02:13:48] In corporate VPN we trust, may the firewall DMZ blaze eternal [02:13:58] in personal VPN i trust [02:14:00] ProtonVPN โค๏ธ [02:14:15] i remember when I was at fandom they used this absolutely horrid vpn called viscosity [02:14:15] imagine all the security vulnerabilities exposed if you could go to mw142.icecone.internal [02:14:17] was so bad [02:14:33] mmm yes proton [02:14:34] I hate the name by itself [02:14:57] It's as bad as calling it StickySecure [02:15:24] only $14 for premium though [02:15:31] i suspect that had something to do with it lol [02:15:34] wait what [02:15:41] are you referring to a corporate vpn? [02:15:43] i use proton mail as well <3 [02:15:44] love it [02:15:56] deletion, GET request? [02:15:57] kingplaystation: i have news to inform you [02:16:13] bad or good? [02:16:15] Uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuugj [02:16:16] bad [02:16:20] oof [02:16:27] depends on your political beliefs? [02:16:28] why is fedi so fucking unsearchable [02:16:33] But since youโ€™re here [02:16:35] prob bad [02:16:37] BlankEclair: no, idk what the situation they use now, but when I was there they used Viscosity which I believe is just a client for OpenVPN [02:16:46] fedi? [02:16:47] Just change the url [02:16:59] its on their account on mastodon.social [02:17:05] (I may have done myself minor (temporary) brain damage with the amount of work I've done in the last 7 days, so my internal filters are a bit wonky ATM) [02:17:18] oh i get it [02:17:33] ATM $$$$$$$$ [02:17:35] i love me an atm [02:17:47] funky fact in the UK we don't call them ATMs [02:17:55] we call them "speed banks" how funny is that [02:17:55] pixldev: do you have a link to a post about it handy? [02:18:09] Pound machines would be a fun and silly name [02:18:26] I also like speedbanks [02:18:28] yeah [02:18:42] makes sense [02:18:52] i think some call them Cashpoints also, but I believe thats actually a registered trademark of a specific bank, so not sure that's accurate [02:19:02] but i guess it is a point at which you get cash so [02:19:12] Oh, that's a thing in Australia too I think [02:19:23] kingplaystation: https://mastodon.neat.computer/@jonah/113705526672291257 [02:19:33] i'm too poor to go to australia so i wouldn't know rip [02:20:03] speaking of donald trumps nominations, I saw them all get interviewed by congress or the senate or whatever [02:20:15] why do they let them get away with just plain refusing to answer the questions [02:20:22] Haven't been personally, but I've consumed a silly amount of content from there so I've got a few local -isms kicking around [02:20:28] whats the point if they're not going to answer properly [02:20:44] for show i suppose? [02:20:49] this made me [02:21:36] i guess yeah [02:21:37] no [02:21:41] no more proton mail [02:21:48] pixldev: wait what [02:21:48] itโ€™s on their account [02:21:53] still there? huh, okay [02:21:54] To have a link [02:22:03] doing homework [02:22:04] [1/2] Without majority and not being under oath, they can't leverage contempt of Congress penalties effectively [02:22:04] [2/2] At this point it becomes more about illustrating the point for later. [02:22:26] Our system has gaps, to put it mildly [02:22:49] yeah -- i was about to say it looks pretty funny from an outsider point of view, but then the UK is no better [02:22:53] _looks at party gate_ [02:22:57] Heh [02:23:34] tbh i dont like trump i didnt liked him since his first presidency [02:23:49] I don't necessarily like him, but I won't deny that he seems to get things done [02:23:59] (however controversial those things might be) [02:24:01] Turns out trying to govern at scale has its fumbles in essentially every implementation [02:24:35] i plan to move away from simplelogin when i finally get a VPS so that i can self-host mail [02:24:42] And occasional successes, either through intention, preparedness, or sheer dumb luck [02:24:43] but hey, I guess you could have 51 states soon though so?? [02:24:51] Ehhhhhhhjjh [02:25:09] i still remember when i had titan mail [02:25:23] I stopped taking him seriously 9 years ago [02:25:26] umm i have to say one thing [02:25:32] https://titan.email/ ..? [02:25:45] yup [02:25:46] thats young for you ๐Ÿ˜› [02:25:48] Not yet prepared in mind and body for the onslaught of dumb soon to arrive [02:25:48] ah [02:25:53] And I wasnโ€™t even in double digits back then [02:26:06] Amen brother [02:26:08] i used my domain as the email [02:26:09] 9 years ago was peak time for video games [02:26:15] (not related to the convo but) [02:26:35] i was still thinking 9 years ago was 2011 [02:26:48] We all lost a few years there [02:27:33] 2011 was a rough year [02:27:40] there was that thought that 2012 was going to end the world [02:27:47] i remember that vividly [02:28:52] A whole series of movies in this vein, in fact [02:29:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329638663151288390/GgzJmTaW8AIIZlj.png?ex=678b1200&is=6789c080&hm=0cd2e34e715fb8fda32660b9580540c27a4ce1f30a992f92b99302239985ba76& [02:29:48] just a solar flare though [02:30:00] Denmarkโ€™s response was actually beautiful [02:30:33] I used to play Minecraft Geopolitics and I still havenโ€™t seen a sicker geopol burn then that, IRL or RP [02:31:12] Everytime i hear about minecraft its about some different variation [02:31:17] It surprises me every time [02:31:33] my internal testing wiki be like: https://files.catbox.moe/faef82.png [02:32:05] [1/2] "be gay do crime" [02:32:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329639353936511078/faef82.png?ex=678b12a5&is=6789c125&hm=f0ba0469c94fe1bbc5d7c3a5fdcf63b9acec7c2be31de46912d0ac6ccf540628& [02:32:16] Oh dang, day after Tomorrow was 2004 release? [02:32:42] i shall preach [02:32:43] https://we.phorge.it/file/data/zbyyeusgbrjvhgqxkxyx/PHID-FILE-bxzq53qlkcgtuhnhepqb/Screenshot_2024-12-17_at_21-13-41_%E2%8C%A8_E1_Be_gay_do_crime.png [02:33:09] Bug finder extraordinare over here [02:33:25] normal bugs or security bugs [02:33:32] i deal in both [02:33:46] Digital entomologist, you [02:33:48] i occasionally come across bugs (in the computer sense) irl too lol [02:34:39] I have zero doubt of this [02:34:55] the latest one is nsfw unfortunately [02:35:30] Did you see the last MediaWiki security release [02:35:37] i haven't actually lol [02:35:49] All but [02:35:50] TWO [02:35:52] were you [02:36:15] LMFAO [02:36:39] So it was a 1:1:4 ratio iirc [02:36:43] I FUCKING CAN'T- [02:37:24] [1/7] + (T373265, CVE-2025-23074) - SocialProfile - Special:EditProfile exposes the contents of profile fields marked "hidden"/friends or "friends of friends" when the privileged user isn't a friend of the user whose profile they edit(ed) [02:37:24] [2/7] + (T377855, CVE-2025-23073) - GlobalBlocking - API list=globalblocks can reveal IP of autoblock if username and IP are included in the bgtargets parameter [02:37:24] [3/7] + (T378885, CVE-2025-23072) - RefreshSpecial - XSS in Special:RefreshSpecial [02:37:25] [4/7] + (T379749, CVE-2025-23081) - Various security vulnerabilities in Extension:DataTransfer [02:37:25] [5/7] + (T381220, CVE-2025-23080) - OpenBadges - XSSes in Special:BadgeView [02:37:25] [6/7] + (T381753, CVE-2025-23079) - XSSes in Extension:ArticleFeedbackv5 [02:37:26] [7/7] + (T382043, CVE-2025-23078) - XSS in BreadCrumbs2 [02:37:37] Count em [02:37:48] 1:1:5 [02:38:19] :Kek: [02:38:58] reminds me, i should fix the xss on the rainverse wiki [02:39:18] Claire: If I ever somehow meet you IRL, add +1 to the drinks I owe ya [02:39:26] i'm not keeping tabs but alright <3 [02:39:43] Maybe ill see at Wikimania 2050 [02:40:11] i hope that it wouldn't be that long... [02:40:41] Fair! [02:41:34] If you ever pass through the capital of the world:cn: maybe check the project page for the local chapter /j [02:43:03] k cya all [02:43:06] bi [02:43:11] bai [02:44:19] :bh_bipride: [02:44:25] bh is blobhaj? [02:44:31] No actually [02:44:46] Iโ€™m not sure what bh mean given the icon [02:44:58] fug it, Boys are Hot [02:45:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329642649132470293/image.png?ex=678b15b7&is=6789c437&hm=86d50bcf1bc576ad2a540fc6edb579c9f05e739ee26626a42f50bfd6f883e264& [02:45:21] > Saw that the subdomain is trans, but it's not queer. Disappointed /j [02:45:22] lmfao- [02:45:54] SCP logo [02:46:03] https://github.com/miraheze/MachineTranslation/pull/3#issuecomment-2445348416 [02:47:03] Youโ€™re so gayโ€ฆ [02:47:10] meow :3 [02:47:49] > Why is it you've got more balls as a girl than you ever did as a boy? [02:47:53] inspirational rainverse quote [02:50:06] Huh [02:50:24] That can be read in more ways then Iโ€™d like [02:50:35] wait wha- oh my god [02:54:13] Confidence in one's presence as a living breathing person: it can go a shockingly long way. [02:55:09] a:blathers_nod: [02:55:21] read blathers as blahaj, but i agree [02:55:33] said the girl with little self-confidence irl [02:59:25] inclusive SCP Foundation [02:59:55] We love to see it. It takes many forms. [03:00:37] I saw a Map that Donald Trump posted on his Truth Social that showed Canada being part of the USA with the American flag as cover of the land area. ๐Ÿ˜‚ [03:00:51] Securely contained or on the lam, we are all our own wonderful anomalies. [03:01:08] there's bound to be a trans scp [03:01:26] considering there's like 9000 articles I would be surprised if there wasn't [03:01:30] yeah [03:01:31] ok hear me out [03:01:33] an SCP [03:01:36] That creates new genders [03:01:42] YES [03:01:54] would be the most ultimate shitpost ever [03:02:02] in reality it just takes MOGAI joke genders and make them reap [03:02:10] lmfao xD [03:02:21] tell him to keep dreamin ๐Ÿ˜‚ [03:02:27] Yeah, he's nothing if not consistent with his nonsense [03:02:38] how's the work [03:02:42] or have you done literally nothing [03:02:45] peak pricrastination [03:02:51] stop talking about me /lh [03:03:00] what's lh [03:03:03] lighthearted [03:03:07] oh [03:03:08] I would laugh if he was joking. But he really believes his own shit [03:03:27] and it's even worse that 75 million Americans fell for him [03:03:38] Like I know both Dems and Reps are terribpe [03:04:00] The first one does way too much money laundering while the second one is just sstraight up terribpe [03:04:06] but Democrats feel better this election [03:04:10] IDK too political [03:04:20] [1/2] I feel like the SCP would have to have some kind of fungal nature, see link as example: [03:04:20] [2/2] https://www.discovermagazine.com/planet-earth/why-this-fungus-has-over-20-000-sexes [03:04:35] John Gender [03:04:41] https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/wiki/Finno-Koreanic_University [03:04:52] The not quite plant or animal life forms really do get wild with it [03:05:09] peaj [03:05:29] but the autism used in the Giza Array is called HYPER Autism [03:05:33] Just keep cooking [03:05:36] I'll make it lore accurate later [03:06:22] would you want an SCP that just turns everything into a plushie [03:06:25] god i love the phrase hyper autism [03:06:27] YES [03:06:29] like throw a chair in and chair plushie [03:06:29] wait, hmm [03:06:37] it's like the thing that turns everything into gold [03:06:38] lmao [03:06:38] throw a shark in and Blahaj plushie but huge [03:06:43] NO WAY [03:06:57] throw in Miraheze storage and it explodes [03:07:01] i- [03:07:03] because too much data [03:07:11] pii is safe [03:07:19] ...wait, do we have FDE on our servers? [03:07:20] i love pie [03:07:25] FDE? [03:07:25] Self-Deprecationโ„ข [03:07:31] full-disk encryption [03:07:32] what's an FDE [03:07:36] Hm [03:07:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329648300193878027/monk-in-china-is-blessing-for-server-to-make-it-never-go-v0-p2j7wokkfr3d1.png?ex=678b1afa&is=6789c97a&hm=40e99d3650967d45607b0b13a73c883491381f8253907819a599991721fc194f& [03:07:41] what in the tech world is that [03:07:42] I donโ€™t think so? [03:08:02] @orduin ? [03:08:12] encryption of all partitions (except for the ESP i suppose) [03:08:31] is there a good chance that some parts of the upper staff (or the ones doing the server stuff) are Mormon [03:08:35] A Orthodox priest blessing the servers [03:08:50] just realised that my laptop has an unencrypted w11 install and an encrypted arch install lol [03:09:04] because Salt Lake City and Utah is literally Latter Day Saints Central [03:09:11] Of Mh? [03:09:16] my windows xp vm is on the arch partition, and my windows 10 vm is on my windows partition [03:09:23] Donโ€™t think so [03:09:23] mmm yes, priorities in order [03:09:30] and we know everyone on tech [03:09:55] am i the only gay tech person? [03:09:56] We donโ€™t have staff out there [03:10:00] Sammy [03:10:07] i thought servers were mostly there? [03:10:09] oh my god i forgot about them omg aaa [03:10:09] my pc has w10, garuda and for some weird god forsaken reason Haiku [03:10:13] saw that on the FAQ [03:10:13] Thatโ€™s just our data center [03:10:18] oh [03:10:25] well I mean someone has to maintain it [03:10:31] The physical servers are managed by Fiberstate Salt Lake City staff [03:10:32] i helped install haiku on a friend's computer [03:10:45] or do y'all just send duct tape and prayers [03:10:48] and hope it works [03:10:49] unfortunately, it only does efi and haiku doesn't ship with an efi bootloader [03:10:51] highly doubt we have FDE. I know we didn't have it on the old infra, and it's very unlikely it's on the current stuff [03:10:58] We pay to host there and get to blame them when physical shit goes down [03:11:07] like this? [03:11:10] [1/3] Good night every one [03:11:10] [2/3] ๐Ÿ’ค [03:11:11] [3/3] ๐Ÿ›Œ๐Ÿป [03:11:15] nini ro~ [03:11:19] Like power supply and networking stiff [03:11:20] oh it's 10 pm in freedom time [03:11:22] wait [03:11:27] imagine if ro was named rw [03:11:32] then when rw goes to sleep, he is ro [03:11:36] who's ro [03:11:39] rodejong [03:11:39] No heโ€™s robert [03:11:39] 4 am here [03:11:55] adopting the claire sleep schedule i see [03:11:57] you're 50?? [03:11:59] its 9 am here [03:12:10] 50+ [03:12:13] My brain has renamed ro to robert and i start trying to ping @robert lmao [03:12:18] lmfao- [03:12:25] LOL [03:12:27] New Game Plus [03:12:28] I know a very nice Wikipedian who is 76. [03:12:48] ok grandpa ||/j|| [03:13:04] LOL [03:13:22] I can still smack you over my knee kid ๐Ÿ˜‰ [03:13:26] vfywodubwaefiawbefuawfbwefbuibiaouweif [03:13:28] trying out irc my self [03:13:29] also why are all of your nationalities just people who like water [03:13:31] Definitely Void's bag re: expertise, but given how much traffic we push I think it might add too much overhead [03:13:44] as far as i can say its cool [03:13:45] (to do fde) [03:13:47] Brits, Danes and Dutch all like water [03:13:57] you also have to consider how the encryption key is derived, so that's fair enough [03:14:07] Be nice you two/three/whomstevers [03:14:13] I am Dutch, Living in Denmark, and I speak those three languages [03:14:15] hmm, ftpm maybe? [03:14:34] We're just kidding [03:14:44] mr north europe is your new nickname now [03:15:06] love it when mediawiki has native RFC, PMID, and ISBN support [03:15:09] I know, couldn't fit in a tonal emoji before my brain got tired [03:15:26] So sleepy [03:15:38] what was the last time Visual Editors bros even had something so fake called an "update or "improvement" [03:15:46] just drank coffee after staying awake the whole night [03:15:47] we stay losing [03:16:06] meanwhile us source editors suffer from dealing with packed wikitext from time to time [03:16:06] Yeah. so that's me logging off [03:16:08] tea wouldnt help so drank caffeine [03:16:22] i find it funny whenever i yawn after drinking coffee [03:16:30] did the british just trasnfer tea liking to india [03:16:32] (happened only once, but still) [03:16:36] or did the chinese do that? [03:16:43] british, india, c'mon [03:16:48] paradox [03:16:48] chinese [03:16:54] read that as paladox [03:16:55] ^ [03:17:08] me when a pallet doxxes Miraheze: [03:17:09] Why vsedit when you can write a whole table from scratch like the parser intended? ๐Ÿ™ƒ [03:17:29] god, the parser [03:17:31] i'd rather use Fandom [03:17:31] the parser [03:17:33] paradox interactive ๐Ÿค” [03:17:34] that magical thing [03:17:49] HOLY [REDACTED BECAUSE CURSES] [03:17:50] the one that no one knows how it works, but what we depend on for the bulk of mediawiki [03:17:52] is that a tno reference?? [03:17:56] the mystical beast [03:18:07] real [03:18:16] i think i've been changed when i tried to read through the parser [03:18:18] have i? [03:18:23] isn't engineering just typinf random numbers and hoping they work anyways [03:18:25] bro i love their games [03:18:31] okay, you're right [03:18:32] or at least computer engineering is [03:18:34] but i mean- [03:18:39] okay you're too right wtf [03:18:47] but i am poor so i pirated their every game :3 ๐Ÿดโ€โ˜ ๏ธ [03:18:57] y'know what they say, be gay do crime [03:19:09] what about the lesbians then [03:19:15] do they do crime lite [03:19:23] isn't being lesbian just being gay? [03:19:28] i mean, lesbian is basically gay but women [03:19:36] why did i read that as lebanon? [03:19:37] gay but Y Chromosome [03:19:44] hon... [03:19:47] Being Lebanese is still just crime tho [03:19:49] /j [03:19:51] GOING BIOLOGICAL!! [03:19:55] pls don't kill me [03:20:06] The parser is a cryptid confirmed [03:20:12] who's parser [03:20:27] the majority of human sex chromosomes are XX (female) and XY (male) [03:20:28] so uh [03:20:35] it's not the Y chromosome (usually) [03:21:04] i still don't understand if servers or volunteers are carrying this site [03:21:13] servers technically [03:21:17] but we're carrying the servers [03:21:23] hezbollah disliked that [03:21:35] but without volunteers everything would collapse like Rome did in the fifth century [03:22:07] what wiki hosting beefs should I know of [03:22:32] Miraheze, 50% fewer back-knives or your non-money back [03:22:53] why am i reading through the parser for a third time [03:23:20] how do you do fandom style tabs and pages [03:23:27] Or is that just super advanced mubo jumbo [03:23:34] Extension:TabberNeue [03:23:42] extensions? [03:23:45] yeah? [03:23:47] I will never touch extensions [03:23:52] git hub just makes me lose it [03:24:04] miraheze lets you enable them in like three clicks [03:24:09] Special:ManageWiki/extensions [03:24:13] find tabberneue in list and check it [03:24:16] It's great [03:24:18] btw which tab extension should i use :ThinkerMH: there are 3 of them [03:24:19] type in the reason in the textbox and click on Save [03:24:28] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329652536432394270/image0.gif?ex=678b1eec&is=6789cd6c&hm=eda9d6f9a64c7ab799321c2e4e1ddde7d09b98bdb47523f4cb898a39e69185dc& [03:24:28] i... honestly don't know lol, but i see TabberNeue a lot [03:24:48] i still haven't even figured out the main page [03:24:53] TabberNeue is the way to go [03:25:01] so I'm just gonna move that to the bottom of the list [03:25:09] what do you use miraheze for anyways? [03:25:14] i use it to host a wiki for my world [03:25:23] oh, only TabberNeue works [03:25:34] one is incompatible, another is incompatible but we didn't mark it [03:25:40] For sure, take one thing at a time, it is easy to get overwhelmed but each small thing makes the next easier [03:25:44] use it as a storage farm ofc ๐Ÿ˜‚ [03:25:46] > [17/01/2025 14:25] what do you use miraheze for anyways? [03:25:58] hosting a wiki about the rainverse (rain universe) :3 [03:26:09] 500 references [03:26:20] btw whats with replies with irc? [03:26:43] Two game wikis, lurking, having Big Ideas โ„ข๏ธ [03:26:45] ComradePS2: you can't really do replies in irc [03:26:53] my convention is to do "> (message)" [03:26:57] sad [03:26:59] and then do "nick: reply text" [03:27:15] without context this just looks like a bot talking with itself [03:27:29] r/SubredditSimulator [03:27:31] kinda is [03:28:09] Irc is its own thing, but just glad we can offer it for those who demand it [03:28:16] guys [03:28:17] mhm ^_^ [03:28:22] i'm making a fourth wall break article [03:28:28] And even talk to each other, what a concept [03:28:36] waow!!! [03:28:38] for one of my characters but how do I make her piss the readers off [03:28:44] Like what do you hate most when someone is talking [03:28:54] bro is gonna define what black matter is [03:28:56] transphobia but i don't think you should include that [03:29:04] Hard pass [03:29:08] [1/3] i've already done: [03:29:09] [2/3] - way too much curses [03:29:09] [3/3] - no commas, no grammar [03:29:17] i like cursing [03:29:20] as in general talking style [03:29:34] oh! inconsistent font size? [03:29:39] good idea [03:29:41] no punctuation is a crime in formal text [03:29:45] exactly [03:29:46] well I mean [03:29:55] it's gonna make you hate her more [03:29:58] she's a brat [03:30:19] who got given the powers to break the fourth wall and destroy entire multiverses [03:30:21] i suddenly reminded myself of my mediawiki extension kill count xD [03:30:29] who got given the powers to break the fourth wall and destroy entire multiverses [03:30:38] whats the count? [03:30:42] why did I say that two times- [03:31:06] 21 [03:31:08] https://claire.sharkgirl.ing/security_trinklets.html [03:31:16] real [03:32:12] oh reminded me of trans group in our country [03:32:16] called hijras [03:32:21] oh hell yeah :3 [03:32:33] heard of them but i haven't done much research ^^; [03:32:41] chad trans people who don't care vs virgin trans haters [03:32:41] i mean people here are transphobic but they are kinda positive of them [03:33:01] aboriginal folx have sistergirls and brotherboys [03:33:02] https://www.transhub.org.au/trans-mob [03:33:51] Asking just in case [03:33:59] what do I do if the wiki gets vandalized [03:34:13] revert, block, potentially report to [[SR/G]] [03:34:13] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/SR/G [03:34:41] would making it logged in only edit be a good choice? [03:34:51] meta does that so if you want to [03:34:52] then sure [03:35:08] if it has something like PII, revert, revdel with a vague reason, block, request [[suppress]]ion [03:35:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/suppress [03:35:31] [[suppression]]* [03:35:31] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/suppression [03:35:32] remember one time a hijra was straight up harassing me [03:35:34] what's that [03:35:41] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/suppression [03:36:03] > [17/01/2025 14:35] remember one time a hijra was straight up harassing me [03:36:04] oh [03:36:05] oh? [03:36:12] so essentially quarantine but for everyone [03:36:13] yup [03:36:17] > [17/01/2025 14:36] so essentially quarantine but for everyone [03:36:19] yeah pretty much [03:36:19] in the public bus [03:36:25] does that mean that not even sever staff can see it [03:36:31] as in like general Miraheze staff [03:36:49] those with server access can, but they're bound by NDA [03:36:54] most volunteers can't though [03:37:05] what is the biggest miraheze drama [03:37:06] list of volunteers with server access can be seen on [[Tech:Volunteers]] [03:37:06] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Tech:Volunteers [03:37:09] that you know of [03:37:14] so many acronyms [03:37:21] hmm... john, maybe? [03:37:22] this is the problem with miraheze [03:37:25] but i only vaguely know about that [03:37:34] NDA is a right wing hidutva alliance in india (I hate though) [03:37:37] it seems like it's tailored for experienced people by experienced people [03:37:41] well I mean [03:37:43] MediaWiki is [03:37:47] literally that but still [03:38:03] simple, there's an acronyms page on either NA or BWM's user page /hj [03:38:03] at least stealing HTMl, CSS and formats is easy [03:38:23] i see [03:38:24] who's NA or BWM [03:38:31] yeah ^^; [03:38:36] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/Miraheze:Acronyms_and_Abbreviations [03:38:47] NA is NotAracham [03:38:47] i should've started with web dev course instead of python course [03:38:50] BWM is BrandonWM [03:39:04] > [17/01/2025 14:38] at least stealing HTMl, CSS and formats is easy [03:39:05] a true programmer [03:39:25] Oh dear Lord, I'm actually linked in the FAQ [03:39:27] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/Miraheze:Acronyms_and_Abbreviations [03:39:27] i just look at good wikis with jealousy [03:39:38] then go insane when all they use is templatess [03:39:38] It's me, the NA [03:39:46] Who's Aracham then? [03:39:49] are you an imposter [03:39:59] he's not aracham though [03:39:59] [1/2] genius marketing tbh [03:39:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329656440725573673/Your-paragraph-text-33.png?ex=678b228f&is=6789d10f&hm=01d3609172112eed8d3cc940736216a313e306580111ecd802b08b86c9d508d1& [03:40:03] it's in his name [03:40:15] IT'S IN THE WIKI [03:40:34] hope on the AI craze [03:40:39] NotAracham if I'm the creator of my world can I make the wiki a main source or no exceptions? [03:40:46] main source of? [03:40:57] IDK just the world itself [03:41:01] like inf8 [03:41:16] pretty sure you can [03:41:26] thank god [03:41:35] i was about to lose myself if I had to create a seperate Google Doc [03:41:45] lmao, agent's user page is still redlinked [03:42:16] Not my expertise, but self reference is fine if it's your creative work [03:42:33] thank god [03:42:44] it is [03:43:15] Yep, I've had zero time to keep any of my guides up to date [03:43:38] Busy NA is busy [03:43:41] omg i keep procrastinating [03:43:48] is there probably at least one person running around renovating wikis for nothing and then just leaving immediately [03:44:01] > This happened by accident in the original parser, but some people used it extensively [03:44:02] i have backcompat [03:44:11] s/have/love/ [03:44:14] > [17/01/2025 14:43] is there probably at least one person running around renovating wikis for nothing and then just leaving immediately [03:44:23] that would be absolutely HILARIOUS and i hope so [03:44:25] [[w:BMW]] ofc [03:44:25] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BMW [03:44:25] [03:44:26] but i haven't seen it yet [03:44:53] if they exist I hope they stumble upon mine [03:45:11] โ€ฆdonโ€™t visit Wikimedia [03:45:13] i keep thinking of the user who had gay furry porn in their screenshots when asking for assistance [03:45:24] i'm sorry what [03:45:31] heh, it's a funny story [03:45:39] what happened to him [03:45:42] tempban? [03:45:46] basically, there's a wiki on micro furry nations [03:45:59] ofc there is. furry autism strikes again [03:46:01] and there was uncensored gay furry porn on said wiki [03:46:11] ...ok that's a bit too far [03:46:14] Debatable [03:46:21] i know a swiss gay furry lmao [03:46:29] swiss people don't exist [03:46:31] the crat kept screenshotting pages with said gay furry porn and asked for assistance in the mh channel several times lmao [03:46:33] Banned on Discord, donโ€™t remember on wiki [03:46:36] they're just germans, italians and frenchies [03:46:51] forgot romansch? [03:46:57] and that [03:47:06] i have an archive of the wiki with the porn actually- [03:47:07] I still get DMs from them malding occasionally [03:47:09] romansch are native though [03:47:16] ahem ahem [03:47:24] guess i'll put it up then [03:47:33] it's just the NWO pretending they exist to justify Switzerland's existence ||/j|| [03:47:45] guys where can I find good disclaimer templates [03:47:58] down the path of wikipedia lies madness [03:48:08] so unless if you're mad, people generally disrecommend importing from wikipedia [03:48:16] Between sense and nonsense lies content policy [03:48:26] *miraheze templafss [03:48:32] i need them [03:48:48] Gnight. [03:49:04] [1/2] @dullbird173 while editing finnish stuff i remembered a thing [03:49:05] [2/2] The finnish for Was is Oli and Oli is my name lmao [03:49:37] mongols and finns are related [03:49:44] And mongols took over india [03:49:51] So there is a connection [03:49:53] and the rest of [03:49:57] everything here [03:50:02] real [03:50:05] night ๐Ÿ‘‹ [03:50:14] heading out too [03:50:14] k gn [03:50:21] bye cya [03:50:27] procrastination is so bad [03:50:32] bye <3 [03:50:33] why can't i have hypefixatiob [03:50:33] yeah ikr [03:50:45] executive dysfunction does not discriminate [03:50:46] if i did my wiki would've had like 7000 pages [03:51:03] but the 23 layer conspiracy iceberg I have to go through [03:51:08] is gonna kill me [03:51:17] ๐Ÿค [03:51:34] Something ive heard of is making the things you need to do a game [03:51:46] like what's roman empire of bouvet island and sixth hyperwar [03:51:51] okay, archive is uploading [03:51:52] mentally or with an app like habatica [03:51:55] i wanna try it [03:52:13] well the latter one I've already figured out as the Eden-Bootesian Hyperwar [03:52:49] > [17/01/2025 14:47] ahem ahem [03:52:55] cw: gay furry porn in images: https://cloud.disroot.org/s/dTBjmQyXgdrQc8C [03:53:11] i really dont wanna click that [03:53:16] oh okay [03:53:21] i thought you were asking for it though [03:53:26] lmao [03:53:31] i dont like furry porn [03:53:35] clicking that gives you enlightenment [03:53:38] but upside down [03:53:39] i dont like porn at all [03:53:44] oh okay lol [03:53:48] sorry about that then ^^; [03:54:01] just here and ther cough ahem [03:54:39] > [17/01/2025 14:47] I still get DMs from them malding occasionally [03:54:42] (in the future, may advise being a bit less sharing with this kinda stuff, just as a note) [03:54:45] pixldev: did he ban evade here or nah [03:54:49] oh okay [03:54:55] TMK no [03:55:02] was it intentional [03:55:06] Or a complete accident [03:55:07] wait, stop sharing here or in general (the word general, not #general) [03:55:17] i don't know actually [03:55:22] remember there are kids here [03:55:26] *teens [03:55:59] If someone asks thats more fine, just being mindful that other people may be a bit uncomfortable [03:56:11] ah okay [03:56:22] And yea the fact there are minors here should be considered(heck im one of them lmao) [03:56:44] even i am cough [03:56:48] OH [03:56:50] even i am cough [03:56:59] but I'm already past that line [03:57:04] line? [03:57:06] ehh idc [03:57:11] i'm a chill guy [03:57:14] ah okay [03:57:23] lets all move on [03:57:27] mhm [03:57:29] lost innocence fr ๐Ÿ˜” [03:57:30] what happened to filledeclair [03:57:33] sure [03:57:38] did you kill them [03:57:43] to what i was saying about gamification of producivity [03:57:46] be gay do crime- [03:57:47] this one is interesting [03:57:57] be human do crime- [03:57:58] i'm trying to find out how the mediawiki parser autolinks text [03:58:00] Duolingo lore [03:58:00] if you fail to do your tasks, it charges your card [03:58:11] ahar [03:58:15] so i'm procrastinating on reading the parser source code [03:58:19] > [17/01/2025 14:58] if you fail to do your tasks, it charges your card [03:58:20] my brain can't comprehend what you're saying [03:58:22] huh... interesting [03:58:59] https://www.beeminder.com/ [03:59:05] supports plenty of sources [03:59:10] genius business idea [03:59:23] for some reason Joe Biden (or actually his grey alter evo Drak Brandon) is the president of the Council of Arcane and Esoteric Affaies but he's known as "The One" [03:59:26] in my world [03:59:52] thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/Council_of_Arcane_and_Esoteric_Affairs [04:00:11] > https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/mediawiki-core/master/php [04:00:13] truly a claire moment [04:00:24] mixed up gerrit and doxygen [04:00:42] the fact they have a $64/month premium tier is insane though [04:00:49] what [04:00:51] wha? [04:00:55] where's the money going to [04:01:00] Idk [04:01:03] oh. [04:01:06] All I know [04:01:11] > [17/01/2025 14:57] i'm trying to find out how the mediawiki parser autolinks text [04:01:13] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/refs/heads/master/includes/parser/Parser.php#503 [04:01:22] God Iโ€™d love to see that P&L [04:01:44] oh wait [04:01:46] that's bracketed links [04:01:48] ugh [04:01:50] Iโ€™d also love if they donated a portion of money from people failing tasks to charities [04:01:57] @dullbird173 made 2 more bullcrap [04:02:16] yeah, i hope so [04:02:46] [1/2] https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/wiki/Underground_Korean_Utopia [04:02:47] [2/2] https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/wiki/Khaganate_of_Un-Finlandia @dullbird173 [04:02:54] as you said in full fashion [04:03:02] holy [04:03:04] it's peak [04:03:20] https://www.beeminder.com/premium [04:03:32] I do like their FAQ though [04:03:49] why is the parser like this [04:04:03] [1/2] > You can choose to send half of your pledge, should you derail, to one of GiveDirectly, Watsi, or the Electronic Frontier Foundation. At the moment these are the only charities that we offer, and we track the total amounts owed to each, and make monthly donations from Beeminder's coffers. If getting a receipt for your donation (and personal credit for it) is something that's importa [04:04:04] [2/2] nt to you, let us know! [04:04:07] WHOOOOOO [04:04:20] UwU [04:04:25] Not only do they do it, EFF is one of them [04:04:48] > We do have student and senior discounts, and discounts for jobseekers and those living in non-OECD countries. Say the word if you think you may qualify! [04:05:10] BlankEclair https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/plugins/gitiles/mediawiki/core/+/refs/heads/master/includes/parser/Parser.php#1769 ? [04:05:10] Iโ€™m liking these folks from a glance [04:05:56] orduin: omg ty [04:05:56] saddening thing is that my cousin has joined the uwu army ๐Ÿ˜” [04:06:02] owo? [04:06:07] W void [04:06:08] Popping back in to +1 on what Pix mentioned: the MH server is an all-ages venues, our audience skews as young as 13, so only ask is: be mindful. [04:06:26] oki [04:06:50] why the hell does this mix stuff like ISBNs with links- [04:06:57] wait, what about swearing? [04:07:36] wait i can register a domain for free? [04:07:43] hell yea [04:07:45] but [04:07:47] Nah, just straight up porn stuff, I know context was that wild user who kept reposting their NSFW wiki in unsavory ways while asking for help [04:07:51] Eh, Iโ€™m in the camp of it being fine if itโ€™s using as general language and not offensive [04:07:53] it will be in a proxy [04:07:59] If itโ€™s used in a hateful way [04:08:01] issuw [04:08:08] xan sources be fictional in-world sources [04:08:17] ah okay ^_^ [04:08:24] > [17/01/2025 15:07] wait i can register a domain for free? [04:08:27] oh? what registrar? [04:08:29] But Iโ€™d also respect if a specific person asked me to stop when talking to them probably [04:08:34] ye [04:08:40] But yeah, swearing is genrally above-board as long as it isn't directed at person or, y'know, hate speech [04:08:42] w- what registrar though... [04:08:59] the only time it's allowed is when referring to people is when it's to yourself /silly [04:09:08] wait [04:09:14] i already see twbtiw doing that and I'm wondering if it's allowed [04:09:32] Goes without saying that slurs are no tolerance typically [04:09:35] ahh fast internet wery fazt 500kbps ๐Ÿค‘ [04:09:51] We have entire wikis that are fictional newspapers based in the world of another wiki. It's not unprecedented [04:10:00] All that matters is complaining about mediawiki is fair fucking game [04:10:02] oh [04:10:10] fuck yeah! [04:10:13] i think Miraheze is the first time I have read ToU [04:10:17] i need to shave again grown [04:10:21] hm [04:10:27] Because I don't want my wiki to get canned [04:10:30] oh. i forgot to read the comments. [04:10:32] do we have a page on tos;dr [04:10:38] good question [04:10:41] [1/2] claire seems like [04:10:42] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329664166994378814/Screenshot_2025-01-17_at_10-10-14_Database_Error.png?ex=678b29c1&is=6789d841&hm=ca25f3be3dcf74a060014ef965613cc593c09cff735ab1718bb7207696beea98& [04:10:49] ? [04:10:50] some error [04:10:56] error? [04:11:02] yup [04:11:11] imma have to use another way [04:11:20] but gonna register it anyways [04:11:22] and share [04:11:24] brb [04:11:34] how are you getting it for free though? through what registrar? [04:11:42] https://tosdr.org/en/service/1466 [04:11:45] pixldev: found it [04:12:14] wait i am sending in a bit [04:12:20] oookay [04:12:25] is it just me or is that partly incorrect [04:12:28] Hmmm, yeah [04:12:29] outdated maybe? [04:12:39] We do notify on TOU update [04:12:58] > Instead of asking directly, this Service will assume your consent merely from your usage. [04:12:58] Does WikiTide and WMF have beef [04:13:00] idk [04:13:05] Not really, no [04:13:08] The legal organizations no [04:13:27] Several of our tech team also participate in some volunteer capacity with WMF as well [04:13:33] The Miraheze project has had bad reputation but at least in my circles ifs improving [04:13:51] The 'beef' is largely historical and faded, to my understnding [04:13:53] i remember someone said Miraheze's co-founder is office banned from WMF [04:14:13] being a miraheze global admin who hangs with Wikimedians irl may help a bit in those circles idk [04:14:20] Correct [04:14:22] That individual hasn't been extensively involved in the project for a while. [04:14:30] was it a dev beef or more of a user beef [04:14:32] four years now, i think? [04:14:32] Thatโ€™s [04:14:42] thought it was more [04:14:48] lemme check [04:14:59] 4 years was last contact with SPF i thought [04:15:06] that's correct [04:15:08] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:John [04:15:10] i- oh [04:15:13] who's SPF [04:15:21] Southparkfan [04:15:21] SouthParkFan, a co-founder of miraheze [04:15:23] is he John Miraheze [04:15:26] last contact with John was 2023 [04:15:27] Other co founder [04:15:36] Huh [04:15:51] it's funny that he's resigned maybe like 6 times in total [04:15:52] Again, not super worth rehashing, they'd been an 'every once in a while' pop-in for some time as I understand it [04:15:54] Owen is also still around too [04:15:57] wait how- [04:15:59] Also true [04:16:10] But again, not in a direct, day-to-day capacity [04:16:20] so has miraheze ever been under "martial law" [04:16:24] because if you're THIS old [04:16:31] I mean [04:16:33] There's bound to be at least one power hungry admin or whatever [04:16:35] I don't really know how to respond to that [04:16:37] I guess between June 2023 to December 2023 [04:16:44] there was no rule of law during that time [04:16:49] when it started tech was basically an oligarcy iirc [04:16:57] huh okay [04:17:02] This was 2015 and a bit after era [04:17:31] Not the words Iโ€™d use [04:17:38] Does ToU have such specific terms for legal stuff [04:17:41] that's the exact words I'd use [04:17:50] because there was no regard for policy enforcement [04:18:05] it was basically just "if you have rights, use them however you can" [04:18:10] Yeah, Owen currently just hangs back and sometimes chats with rhinos about british power bills i think [04:18:16] lmao [04:18:25] Hm? [04:18:33] britain is literally just a first world city (london) attached to a third world country [04:18:55] everything else is user friendly but then the ToU uses a lot of "musts" and whatnot [04:19:05] and it's in bold [04:19:11] ah, i interpret those words in accordance to RFC 2119 [04:19:11] I think our ToU is really simple if anything [04:19:14] [[rfc:2119]] [04:19:14] https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2119 [04:19:16] Itโ€™s legalese [04:19:20] Yep. [04:19:25] we should specify that i suppose? [04:19:30] there's only one must in our ToU [04:19:34] COUGH USA [04:19:34] It has a different style of speaking compared to other documentation [04:19:36] Conservatorship might be more accurate? [04:19:46] Hm [04:19:48] I mean [04:19:54] Its ucanet [04:19:55] there's no first world cities to begin with /hj [04:20:04] well, there was no one to enforce such conservatorship [04:20:09] it really was a free for all [04:20:14] it was a state of emergency, normal procedures was on hold to keep things in semi order [04:20:19] Martial law seems accurate [04:20:25] Keep the lights on technocracy/ [04:20:30] i joined after some scare shutdown [04:20:33] so i dunno the lore behind that [04:20:35] semblance is a better word actually [04:20:48] I have fuzzy memories [04:21:04] i think mh was listed in the archiveteam main page as well at the time [04:21:24] I vaguely recall the day the old servers finally caved and we had to do say well I guess weโ€™re moving infrastructure right now [04:21:31] > Miraheze: Shutting down sometime between 2023-09-01 and 2023-10-31. Rescued by new volunteers! [04:21:43] yeah, that was real sudden [04:21:47] Is the reason why a lot of extensions haven't just become straight up integrated into miraheze is because of privacy, [04:21:51] And the WD Greens [04:21:53] [1/2] Eh [04:21:53] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329666982819266641/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_f21d693d-76b2-47e0-924a-8926ca9f497b.jpg?ex=678b2c60&is=6789dae0&hm=4a49109e4e4df33b963b95fd50fe97236c84a6f621cf8a40d2dd49bef6e275dd& [04:21:53] what happened [04:21:58] yeah, i dunno [04:22:11] dullbird173: as in why extensions are not being installed rn? [04:22:13] That'n was 2022 Oct-Nov, as I recall. Owen and Void put in some real work on that [04:22:18] A extension must be requested by at least one wiki that plans to use it [04:22:24] long story short: most volunteers quit because they disagreed with an unfair verdict [04:22:24] and pass security review [04:22:25] As did many folks in tech, as well as myself with reinstantiation [04:22:36] oh [04:22:37] 2022? [04:22:47] I thought we were having failures in 2023 [04:22:52] why hasn't portable infoboxes become an insert feature [04:22:57] insert? [04:23:01] ve bros stay losing [04:23:02] Oh, wait, yes. DB141 WDGreens were a different one [04:23:06] oh [04:23:11] I remember watching Void and paladox talk in tech-ops [04:23:17] wait, i think you can blame UO for this one? [04:23:24] because i think extensions can add themselves to the insert thingy [04:23:25] db131 crashing was in January 2024 [04:23:27] How many issues did those bastards cause [04:23:40] [1/2] A relic from a different era: [04:23:40] [2/2] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/User:NotAracham/Wiki_Recovery_Guide_(db141_outage) [04:23:42] There used to be a option in the insert menu called infobox in fandom [04:23:43] Was that the welp we moving i guess one [04:23:44] what caused the great 141 purge [04:23:48] yes [04:23:50] Hi everyone, long time no see and wanted to say hi ๐Ÿ™‚ [04:23:54] Remember hearing about it [04:23:55] Yk ofc [04:23:55] meow :3 [04:24:00] sup [04:24:06] meow :3 [04:24:09] nya~ [04:24:26] Good to see you [04:24:27] we never did figure out why db131 gave up but it did so me and UO decided to migrate asap [04:24:27] bonk [04:24:32] Not much, been way too busy on my wiki, like way too much XD [04:24:34] these shits^ [04:24:43] not Ael LMAO [04:24:44] > all text content on a wiki will be lost until the unlikely case of data recovery from the damaged disks [04:24:49] huh, did we not have backups back then? [04:24:57] Western Digital? [04:25:08] we did but [04:25:14] Those WD greens were fun. Literally had to have them mailed to me so I could work with them physically. [04:25:15] the backups were on the SSDs that died [04:25:21] In short, consumer disks did a whole lot well beyond their capability and gave up the ghost, too many of them at once for raid to work [04:25:31] omg [04:25:43] do you have photos [04:26:10] ehh i'm leaving [04:26:11] [1/2] Somehow broke my installation of firefox on xp [04:26:11] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329668064739856434/rn_image_picker_lib_temp_2f7f313b-a88d-419e-a72c-33b207b9e33a.jpg?ex=678b2d62&is=6789dbe2&hm=8a42e0ecdc4924d42c16e58660b1694e42e8be22c49486b569753d0f8dead445& [04:26:12] So much for the 3:2:1 rule [04:26:14] this is a vet chat [04:26:34] Vent or vet? [04:26:35] i follow 2:1 for now :( [04:26:36] Too many disks, all of which we personally purchased and owned with very tiny budget [04:26:54] i have two on-site copies of my data [04:26:59] actually, that's just 2 lmao [04:27:08] thinking of paying for rsync.net so that i can have an offsite [04:27:13] different medium? [04:27:19] whats the rates [04:27:20] SSD and HDD [04:27:40] https://www.rsync.net/signup/order.html?code=experts [04:27:41] Very much void's expertise again if they feel like diving into the wild world of the very crunchy prior setup [04:27:51] final question why doesn't miraheze just straight up remove the goal. lots of people are willing to donate and more servers would be better [04:28:11] The fundraiser goal? [04:28:30] holy shit we raised >$10k [04:28:35] We can only realistically ask so much from the community, and can only practically execute so much with the people-power at our disposal [04:28:41] Don't think so, all that really happened was I stuck them in a disk reader and managed to pull a full bit for bit image off of them before they fully died (one of them only worked when directly connected to my laptop, lol). The real fun part was reassembling the raid5 array and then [04:28:56] i mean, we aren't even clearing the approved extensions backlog lmao [04:29:00] Itโ€™s a way to rally the community, to give a tangential measure of success (oh wow theyโ€™re apmsot at their goal! Maybe ill pitch in a bit) [04:29:08] Also a big number gets people excited, but moving it too many times makes people sad/disillusioned [04:29:11] well people do it on their own conscious. They aren't really being thrown donation ads everywhere [04:29:22] (and we do accept donations outside of normal fundraisers [04:29:26] oh [04:29:36] One day i may learn such arts [04:29:46] is there that one rich person that just donates a ton and literally does nothing [04:30:00] It's me, the rich person (jokes) [04:30:00] maybe? [04:30:04] A fundraiser is a drive in a way [04:30:11] So glad I decided to get a minor in digital forensics at college, probably couldn't have done this without it. [04:30:13] We have the occasional big donator [04:30:18] what's funny is that our 2022 fundraiser just made $3,000 versus our 2024 fundraiser which made over $15,000 [04:30:23] orduin: wait, you did the recovery by yourself? [04:30:25] Digital forensics? [04:30:32] There were 3000 more wikis in 2024 [04:30:37] Ye [04:30:39] Or 2000 [04:30:42] Yeah, what you pulled off is some borderline dedicated cleanroom shenanigans, eternally grateful [04:30:43] oh my fucking god you're amazing [04:30:47] miraheze just exploded in popularity [04:30:56] Insanely so [04:31:05] around 9,000 more wikis [04:31:10] probably something something fandom [04:31:14] what failed exactly [04:31:14] He is [04:31:29] They were consumer grade drives [04:31:32] did they mess up catastrophically this year? [04:31:41] for people to migrate hereb [04:31:42] Never meant for that volume of R/W [04:31:52] they were meant to be stopgaps but they had to be used for more time because SC jacked up our server prices [04:31:54] yeah, but what exactly failed about the drives? [04:32:01] anti fandom has been driving up a lot [04:32:11] the sentiment or the breezewiki instance [04:32:12] mossbag and connorโ€™s video is one part of it [04:32:22] I recall something about the raid controller got screwed, which then made the drives do screw things, then boomtown [04:32:42] But there was a lot of cross-chatter, so not sure how much of that was apocryphal [04:32:45] how are our backups to IA btw? [04:32:52] adding RAID support to our servers is one of our goals in 2025 [04:33:09] At least one of the drives was straight up EOL, like, couldn't physically support much more read/writes [04:33:14] [1/2] Claire it seems okay i am done [04:33:14] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329669839022981140/Screenshot_20250117-103249.jpg?ex=678b2f09&is=6789dd89&hm=f6074158983b238b08207742f3fb6ae166ec5abe257703596fd8e2f962a27817& [04:33:31] kingplaystation: huh! neat! [04:33:31] It was pretty easy [04:33:40] Miraheze likes raids? [04:33:43] did it have physical damage visible [04:33:53] Har har, but please no thanks [04:33:57] Its a tech thing [04:34:01] Raid makes multiple disk act like one [04:34:23] redundant array of inexpensive disks [04:34:30] yeah no, disks are not inexpensive [04:34:34] lmao [04:34:36] A few flavors, but general idea is that things are (depending on setup) able to self-repair or extend many drives into one big virtual drive [04:34:37] oh [04:34:38] No, but I never physically opened it up, so who knows for certain [04:34:41] I thought like user raids [04:34:53] Dang [04:35:00] i was so confused because "people enjoy hundreds vandalizing wikis?" [04:35:07] but ofc it's a tech thing [04:35:08] What was the indicator for EOL [04:35:11] my local backup system is so cursed lol [04:35:19] do tell [04:35:25] so basically [04:35:31] Probably some SMART thingy screaming or the monitor software f [04:35:34] there's /srv/athena/bins/borgbkup [04:35:45] athena? [04:35:48] which is owned by athena:athena, and my user account is in the group athena [04:35:55] project name for me to share files between user accounts [04:36:02] never really got started tbh, because procrsatination [04:36:03] listening to a song rn about Athena LMAO [04:36:35] that script then executes /usr/local/bin/_borgbkup_create, which actually does the backup [04:36:39] IIRC, something about the device having exceeded its maximum supported read writes in SMART [04:36:48] at this point, i should just make everything owned by root instead of this partial user mess [04:37:01] The /root of all evils [04:37:04] but i also have to rework this system to make it work with remote sites- aaaaaa [04:37:10] i should've made this a python script [04:37:11] Goddamn it that joke was terrible [04:37:13] ill take note haha, as someone who likes digital preservation maybe ill take a course or two on that when i go to hell i mean college [04:37:28] > [17/01/2025 15:36] IIRC, something about the device having exceeded its maximum supported read writes in SMART [04:37:29] oh god [04:37:31] playing with fire [04:37:37] btw, here's my backup hdd [04:37:41] > Filesystem Size Used Avail Use% Mounted on [04:37:42] > /dev/sda2 938G 355G 536G 40% /mnt [04:37:44] SMART? [04:37:47] It is super fascinating, I did a course or two down this line but it was never a focus. Just enough to be dangerous [04:38:08] pixldev: built-in thing in HDDs that provides diagnostic information [04:38:08] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-Monitoring%2C_Analysis_and_Reporting_Technology [04:38:19] ^ that, yeah [04:38:28] Neat [04:38:44] Other flavors have varying support for non-spinny drives [04:38:44] I need to sleep but Iโ€™ll happily continue talking about this tmr [04:38:45] do SSDs support them? idk, gnome-disks disabled it for my internal ssd [04:38:50] hi brandon [04:38:54] bye Brandon [04:39:02] I've tried to find a good time to pop into this conversation but I find myself quite lost [04:39:03] do tell tmr though [04:39:13] fun how we didn't catch that [04:39:17] Depends on the tool + SSD brand, many SSDs package their own version [04:39:22] I'm sure there was probably an icinga alert about it lol [04:39:24] โœจ tech [04:39:27] ah okay [04:39:37] maybe we never set it uo [04:39:47] or is icinga smart and adds by itself [04:40:08] (I'm also admittedly a bit out of modern knowledge, I've downgraded to hobbyist with my refocus on data things in recent years0 [04:40:16] https://files.catbox.moe/r9yxle.png [04:40:38] I'm pretty sure we've always had icinga alerts for SMART events [04:40:39] Our monitoring back then was straight garbage, iirc one of the two failed disks had failed a full month before hand and we didn't know about it until the other one went and brought us down. [04:40:42] before I make a useless steward request do I need to make one if my vision of the wiki expanded a lot? [04:41:07] depends, how so? [04:41:53] i made gnome-disk segfault [04:42:40] It just went from 2 setting to sorta qn expanded universe with 2 other ones; being the Ring Worlds and Eden (galaxy) [04:42:49] which I plan to have a decent amount of content [04:43:11] should i send occasional rainverse wiki quotes here? [04:43:26] cc Stewards for ^, I'm not fully qualified to judge [04:43:38] If your original vision was 'my alternate history/my alternate universe', I wouldn't consider that a scope change necessarily - your universe just got bigger [04:43:46] oh [04:43:47] Scope creep on a cosmic scale. ๐Ÿ˜„ [04:43:50] lmao xD [04:43:52] great [04:44:07] Well I'm definitely still getting the extra features [04:44:10] Thanks [04:44:32] There's some straight wizardry here if anyone is interested -> [04:44:56] Oooooh sh*t does that bring back some memories [04:45:02] are you speaking enchanting table [04:45:09] what is this [04:45:19] Equivalence in techspeak, to a degree. [04:45:31] i- [04:45:32] wow [04:45:41] i don't even know this wizardry [04:45:51] My favorite unit was the practical one where they brought in a bunch of busted drives and just said: "extract what you can" [04:45:55] i'm like the glitch gremlin, i specialise in breaking things [04:46:40] Yeah, hardware shenanigans are a whole other beast [04:46:40] damn, rereading this now, I did not write this in a very accessible way, lmao [04:46:56] oh good, manmade horrors beyond my comprehension [04:46:58] imagine if i could call the mediawiki parser inside scribunto [04:47:01] oh hey average [04:47:03] welcome to db141 [04:47:04] ohey [04:47:20] this is where i've been procrastinating instead of working on the wiki xD [04:47:20] does just saying the numbers "141" give some people flashbacks [04:48:41] Mmm, I had a lab where we were supposed to image these ancient 16/32GB HDDs, and one poor student had managed to extract over 180GB and counting. [04:49:00] ...... ๐Ÿ˜ฑ [04:49:21] i- [04:49:22] wow [04:49:35] Guessing there was some kind of improper termination or an accidental decompression. Very wilhelm scream moment there. [04:50:15] why are there like twelve conduct policy tuings [04:50:18] Oh, or I guess to say it a not-dumb way, that it kept looping and writing the same data over and over again [04:50:29] this is taking years [04:50:31] My brain? It's tired [04:50:37] just to read through all of them [04:50:50] yes [04:50:58] The fun thing about policy: If it exists, there's a reason. [04:51:05] And a horror story behind why [04:51:27] unrelated but I'll do anything for the person who makes portable infoboxes a VE insert feature and not an extension [04:51:33] it's like "no peeing up into the air to the urinal" sign [04:51:40] somebody has to have tried it [04:51:43] i myself will never touch extensions [04:51:54] "Every law has a reason," [04:51:57] mhm [04:52:11] your username has suddenly reminded me of scp 173 [04:52:26] does "No one is above the laws of life - not even the law itself." go hard [04:54:13] The real horror is that I still have the db141 images backed up on a hard disk in my desk [04:54:34] uhh [04:54:46] if like the most powerful person in the entire miraheze system goes rogue [04:54:50] who's stopping them? [04:55:02] I guess it depends [04:55:04] as in the path to most destruction? [04:55:08] like what do you even mean by rogue [04:55:34] martial law like everyone discussed earlier? [04:55:46] Just basically power for the person in quesiton only [04:55:56] stopping them from doing what? destroying everything? taking over control? [04:56:02] latter [04:56:15] there's no single leader [04:56:16] is the community just gonna hack the site back to normal [04:56:20] owners of the domain names i suppose? [04:56:20] there's a board [04:56:45] someone high up there at least [04:57:02] there's no position of unfettered power [04:57:05] the board doesn't really have much tech control though [04:57:15] indeed [04:57:39] Was miraheze late 2023 just anarchy [04:57:49] Because that's what I think it was from lurking [04:58:03] (I love looking at this channel, each time I can't read anything since it goes way too fast XD) [04:58:09] ah yes xD [04:58:10] anarchy? certainly not [04:58:29] people behaved [04:58:32] someone here said somethong about "miraheze 'shutting down'" around that time [04:58:37] Owen and Void stayed [04:58:44] was policy enforced? not really. but people behaved [04:58:44] or have I just got my stuff wrong [04:58:54] so anarchy but unspoken rules [04:59:00] that being said, afaik, no queues were attended at all during that time [04:59:15] then others stepped up [04:59:18] I still had access to Steward, CVT, and tech emails and nothing reported was actioned [04:59:22] wasteland with sorta big communits makes more sense [04:59:33] it didn't feel chaotic despite mass resignation [04:59:33] As in said big commubitiess had laws [04:59:57] what caused all of the volunteers to become john cenas anyways [05:00:01] lmao- [05:00:03] People behaved so it didn't feel like chaotic but it was more like a project on autopilot [05:00:14] so like life support? [05:00:24] basically [05:00:48] Hope everyone is doing well at least ๐Ÿ˜… (one thing is sure, no one will say that I didn't try XD) [05:00:53] exhaustion and one weirdo, roughly speaking [05:01:26] [1/2] so basically [05:01:26] [2/2] imagibe miraheze as a country. there is no government but local leaders still step up to try to keep everything normal [05:01:30] Is this the best comparison? [05:02:25] kinda [05:02:30] I did straight up cackle at this [05:02:45] i do recommend taking periodic backups of your wiki [05:02:53] the more redundant and independent copies, the better [05:03:07] +, generally, the people who care the most about your data is you [05:06:27] [1/5] Not precisely, I'd consider it more like an industry association or a workers union of sorts, maybe? [05:06:27] [2/5] * There's a board that oversees operations at a very high level but is largely hands-off for day-to-day [05:06:27] [3/5] * There are volunteer teams that run the tech and community side of things, as well as enforce policy [05:06:28] [4/5] * There's interested members that can also vote in global matters [05:06:28] [5/5] * There's uninvolved people that simply use us as a host to get their thing done [05:06:52] i'm talking about speicifcally the volunteer resignation period [05:06:55] The time that folks are referring to that was more chaotic was during a transitional period where we didnt' have enough resources (people or money) to make all the things happen [05:09:10] Only reason I haven't deleted them yet is because I'm too lazy to plug in the drive [05:10:11] I'll get around to it when I install the drive into the server I was supposed to build 5 years ago :P [05:10:32] Isn't that always the way, though. [05:10:34] One day [05:12:32] what do the staff think about Spiral [05:12:37] the first non-staff site [05:13:52] [1/2] Speaking of that computer, here is a fun game called spot the broken pin [05:13:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329680066094825483/PXL_20210211_190932113.jpg?ex=678b3890&is=6789e710&hm=51728f49b96f7f8391d77a49dbef26569ef0c1895cb13089511cf75c01a59e63& [05:14:25] Ah the famous game I hope to never play [05:14:29] ^ That picture is 5 years old and still makes me mad [05:14:30] oh that hurts [05:29:29] i was wondering if I could create a fandom wiki then have the miraheze wiki link to it with the miraheze being the serious one while the fandom one being the basically joke/free reign wiki. It's not a serious idea yet but I'm asking first just in case [05:33:14] While that doesn't sound adviseable, we don't prevent outlinks unlike Fandom [05:33:38] But yeah, I really do need to be asleep RN [05:34:14] Fandom doesn't like rival wikis, farms or independent [05:34:45] I think at some point someone said that even Wikipedia wasn't safe from that [05:46:28] not even Wikipedia? [05:46:54] well I mean it was an idea that my brain had [05:47:46] well if I wanted to, could I create another wiki that is sorta that for the community to have full reign. And if I think "hmm. this peak" and I could ask for permission to add into the actual serious wiki [05:48:02] atp IDK if I want a professional looking wiki or free editing wiki [05:48:13] wait no wikis like that aren't allowed [05:48:18] oh well just ignore meh [06:59:20] I got myself two new pairs of thigh high socks yesterday :3_: [06:59:35] OwO :3 [07:01:09] :3 [07:01:48] :3c [07:04:34] :3 [07:05:27] >:3c [09:43:27] miraheze resembles a confederation that internally struggles a lot and branches have problems coordinating despite there being relatively few people in the highest offices, and individual wikis are states that just come and go [09:48:21] uh when publising a PI and naming it does the name already include the Template: part and I just have to put in "Country_Infobox"? [09:49:58] I rather see it as a large development institution with several "bodies" that form and evolve from time to time, who take responsibility for keeping the institution going. The wiki's are education classes, workshops, hobby rooms, it groups, gamers, libraries, etc. [09:50:35] Don't need to add template: no. What makes it the template is `{{name}}` [09:50:35] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:name [09:50:36] 81 countries in one pretending to be a country with a government [09:50:48] >:3 [09:50:54] thank god [09:51:04] ty for the help [09:52:09] i gotta confirm email first?? [09:52:13] oh nah [09:53:49] oh i didn't log in [09:55:14] what's trickier to note is what properly glues it all together [09:55:23] that glue is and has always been rather tenacious [09:55:30] it's like a government that needs the populace to do something [09:56:27] ... [09:56:29] i'm done [09:56:32] holy [09:56:59] ...mac and cheese balls ๐Ÿ˜„ [09:57:22] great, you have solved society [09:58:14] i'm just done with this and I barely understand source anyways. I think i have to write down a default text but I don't know where [09:58:22] Only the ones I did write default text did [09:58:24] but yeah, miraheze will fail to catch up to other platforms if people do not try to return what they can to the whole and just treat it as a web host. Fandom can do that, they pay their people and they get their money, miraheze depends on money the same way it depends on everything else, it just hopes people will get it going [09:58:25] Please help [09:58:28] https://thirdmillennium.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Country [09:58:52] there are people here competent with those things, I'm not really one of them [09:59:17] I'll take a look [09:59:21] oh. but like it's 5;00 in freedom time rn [09:59:36] 11 am here [09:59:37] problem is easy to fix but I'm just that dumb [09:59:39] ty [10:00:06] 5 in freedom time means I'm off for work before too long [10:00:32] i always forget that adults have work and actual lives [10:05:12] an unfortunate side effect of living too long [10:14:55] [1/16] The problem is that you need to create something like this: [10:14:55] [2/16] ```{{Country [10:14:55] [3/16] |Header = [10:14:56] [4/16] |image = arcadia.png [10:14:56] [5/16] |Formal name = Arcadia [10:14:56] [6/16] |Common name = [10:14:56] [7/16] |Abbreviation= Arc [10:14:57] [8/16] |Motto = Here we are [10:14:57] [9/16] |Anthem = [10:14:57] [10/16] |Capital = [10:14:58] [11/16] | [10:14:58] [12/16] | [10:14:59] [13/16] | [10:14:59] [14/16] }} [10:15:00] [15/16] ``` [10:15:00] [16/16] Each country would get the same template, but would of course get different entries behind the `=` [10:15:25] The more lables, the more entries. [10:24:05] Ty [11:34:04] ohey, shoutwiki runs the funny refreshspecial extension that has stored xss (though via system messages) [11:41:12] is this a bad thing? ... [11:42:41] it's a bad thing, but it's not very easy to exploit [11:43:08] you need to edit the system messages, so on miraheze with the default permission structure, is sysop or interface-admin [11:44:01] it's not as bad as, say, TabberNeue where you can effectively get reflected xss [12:17:55] I wonder how many XSS are present in their create wiki extension lol [12:50:40] [1/2] all black BABYYYYYYY (i spent an unhealthy amount of time on this) [12:50:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329795022526218260/image.png?ex=678ba39f&is=678a521f&hm=3f6020a3ce75c31b9b035dc5a8ccdf904cdb61fdf7db4f50430887b8fb27696e& [13:04:54] goth wiki [13:04:56] i like it [14:01:23] I call it void [14:01:38] goth sounds better [14:18:31] Roblox has a void not goth [14:18:37] owo? [14:19:14] oh [14:19:18] you wrote not instead of hot [14:22:31] bruh ๐Ÿ’€ [14:22:38] w- what? ^^; [14:25:53] ?????? void hot goth?????? [14:25:55] huh?????? [14:25:59] ..? [14:26:05] i thought that's what you said yeah [14:26:07] how would you even conceptualise this???? [14:26:30] yeah i was waiting for you to send a pic or smth [14:26:32] I SAID "NOT", NOT "HOT" ๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€๐Ÿ’€ [14:26:38] i knowwwww [14:27:38] Huh??? ๐Ÿ˜ญ [14:27:52] i think we're both confusing ourselves at this point [14:32:36] Itโ€™s funny anyways [14:32:44] fair [14:34:29] Claire did you sleep [14:35:30] not yet [15:16:29] That could explain it? [15:16:38] ? [15:26:11] She doesnโ€™t do that much [15:26:16] More then boss man but [16:07:10] So the whole confusion thing was not caused by a lack of sleep? [16:33:29] um [17:14:33] [1/2] pain [17:14:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329861430467366972/image.png?ex=678be178&is=678a8ff8&hm=502c0ca5c8e052bb5e49cfba2101926be994f349346ad544aaf0d52fe25368ae& [17:28:15] the beauty of css [18:02:20] [1/2] :'[ [18:02:20] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329873457457926185/image.png?ex=678becac&is=678a9b2c&hm=6ed78a7a85d2c7b68a2a7db8caedce5080fbd3b269644fa87e78968152180611& [18:12:13] aw man, tried using clear and it still not moving below the div [18:45:18] Never gets old [18:45:26] Being above official is sad [18:45:30] But this is still funny [18:48:51] fr [19:30:15] Love that one of my favorite blogs to read is a furry cryptography blog [19:41:17] <.guardianx.> I've been laughing, my youngest is MOSTLY non-verbal but lately my partner has been watching anime around them and they have really attached to one word "NANI". So I'll be doing things listening to them play and suddenly I hear them shout from the other room, "NANI!?" [19:41:58] Haha, I think lots of kids do that [19:42:16] I used to years ago a bit [19:42:23] Bit cringe but kids will be kids [19:42:28] I should know [19:45:33] <.guardianx.> I'm not worried at all, they are super young, it's just very entertaining to see them basically trip over basic words like "yes" but for some reason they pronounce "NANI" perfectly (well...as good as you would expect someone listening to subbed anime to pronounce it) [19:50:47] I'm more of a dub person personally [19:52:35] This is the way, and always has been. ๐Ÿ˜„ [19:53:40] I have done thing on the internet my friends will probably blackmail me with someday [20:41:53] Evening everyone ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿผ๐Ÿ˜ด [20:42:53] sup [20:43:35] Argh didn't really sleep well, also yeah woke up not long ago so it gives you an idea. XD [20:43:48] Oof [20:43:49] That stupid Data Maps thing really disturbed my sleep XD [20:44:43] Welcome to Mediawiki [20:45:41] Yeah.. Just sad that most of the functions don't work on Mira but work on the Wiki.gg system, so the only examples I had were biased by default ๐Ÿ˜ข [20:49:51] <.labster> Good morning everynyan! Ohio gozaimasu! [20:50:30] Hi ๐Ÿ‘‹๐Ÿผ [20:50:41] <_arawynn> well good evening from me^^ [20:51:32] <.labster> It's morning in UGT [20:51:39] <.labster> https://www.geekality.net/blog/universal-greeting-time-ugt [20:51:44] XD [20:52:42] <_arawynn> another thing I learned about today [20:59:33] I love this m,an [21:27:07] [1/2] we do be theme designering [21:27:07] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1329924993689063506/Screenshot_2025-01-17_at_21.26.56.png?ex=678c1cab&is=678acb2b&hm=801cd2f9f3bb464e89636502338865202320c5673ec20c74cd8bdd5e6600dd8c& [21:27:58] ๐Ÿ”ฅ [21:28:20] ๐Ÿ˜ฎ [21:29:41] for some reason there is no ooui accordion how bizzare [21:30:38] ๐Ÿ‘€ [21:31:06] is the theme stored like settings then? [21:33:48] stored in $wg variables yeah (posted to an api which sets them onto manage wiki or whatever, but that isn't implemented yet), so it only really works with skins that get their config from $wg variables I just used Vector as an example [21:34:16] so cosmos would be a candidate I guess