[00:00:15] nope [00:00:57] weird but okay [00:03:33] see what I do [00:03:38] ? [00:03:45] document.write [00:03:49] works [00:03:57] and tons of Funny Console Errors(tm) [00:04:15] at least you don't cause actual errors [00:04:26] mediawiki just warns you and calls a different function since that's deprecated [00:04:35] there's like two users who found this bug my fucking god [00:04:47] one round of testing could've found this [00:11:47] Blank, are you reporting the preferences bug upstream? [00:11:52] haven't, no [00:12:07] god, i got so worked up on the whole [1/14] well I have the proposed interim patch: [00:14:47] [2/14] ```php [00:14:47] [3/14] foreach ( $this->options->get( MainConfigNames::HiddenPrefs ) as $pref ) { [00:14:47] [4/14] if (isset($defaultPreferences[$pref])) { [00:14:48] [5/14] // Preserve the original value but make it a hidden field [00:14:48] [6/14] $defaultPreferences[$pref]['type'] = 'hidden'; [00:14:48] [7/14] // Store the current user option value [00:14:49] [8/14] $defaultPreferences[$pref]['default'] = [00:14:49] [9/14] $this->userOptionsManager->getOption($user, $pref); [00:14:49] [10/14] } [00:14:49] [11/14] } [00:14:50] [12/14] ``` [00:14:50] [13/14] At the top of DefaultPreferenceFactory::loadPreferenceValues() which hides that specific preference and prevents it being changed. However it causes some issue with `mediawiki.special.preferences.ooui/skinPrefs.js` as that infuses the field but it can't when its hidden, so a slight change would be needed there also. [00:14:51] [14/14] Not sure if they would go for this patch, but its the only thing I can think of that alleviates the issue [00:15:58] > [21/01/2025 11:12] god, i got so worked up on the whole uhh i think it's unhealthy at this point [00:16:09] i can't really think of much until i calm down ^^; [00:22:18] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/dashboard/1157 [00:22:21] that... that dashboard [00:22:40] girl had a patch waiting for 3 years omg [01:05:26] https://tildes.net/~lgbt/1lg4/us_president_donald_trump_to_issue_executive_orders_to_end_birthright_citizenship_limit_gender [01:05:27] yippee [01:28:13] <.labster> He also signed an executive order giving himself the right to sell TikTok. [01:31:19] <.labster> BlankEclair: I’m starting to think of putting Ashley extensions in the same category as Yaron extensions [01:33:25] <.labster> Also Cindy is my coworker; she also works for WMF. Pretty cool lady. [01:34:46] I think the stock exchanges in EU will open in minus! [02:03:55] > [21/01/2025 12:31] <.labster> BlankEclair: I’m starting to think of putting Ashley extensions in the same category as Yaron extensions [02:03:59] .labster: yeah, i kinda agree... [02:04:02] > [21/01/2025 12:33] <.labster> Also Cindy is my coworker; she also works for WMF. Pretty cool lady. [02:04:06] oh neat ^_^ [02:20:11] Seeing the WHO thing, I want to tell Ashley and Lynn to get out of the US while she still can. [02:22:51] Who? [02:22:58] what WHO thing [02:24:45] pixldev: which who are you asking (in terms of labster); ashley or cindy? [02:24:56] Cindy, the TV is leaking [02:25:07] Cindy [02:25:10] ah [02:25:24] Makes sense that people at the WMF would also work for Wikiteq [02:25:30] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/User:Cindy.cicalese [02:25:35] author of commentstreams [02:25:55] why do people write about themselves in 3rd person that is so annoying ugh [02:25:59] agreed [02:26:14] i should leave my wmf userpage to just "i'm gay :3" [02:26:21] _blocked_ [02:26:24] (JOKE) [02:26:36] World Health Organization. [02:26:44] w- what did i miss [02:26:47] what did the WHO say [02:27:13] Donald Trump the Orange is cutting ties with them. [02:27:30] And by Ashley, I meant Ashley Day (aka PrincessAshley/PrincessSylveon). She's been in a bind, and with that thing, it's gonna get worse. [02:27:36] OH [02:27:55] i thought the WHO did something ^^; [02:28:16] but nah, you're just talking about https://www.dw.com/en/trump-orders-us-exit-from-paris-climate-agreement-and-who/live-71346591#liveblog-post-71356195 [02:28:27] ... [02:28:28] oh god I hate this https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-extensions-VersionCompare/blob/master/includes/SpecialVersionCompare.php#L73 [02:28:32] wait, i just processed what you said [02:28:36] TRUMP WHAT THE FUCK [02:28:38] ugh [02:28:53] my heart goes out to all the queer folks stuck in the US [02:29:36] So far, Lynn is in New York and I don't think Oregon would be safe for Ashley anymore. [02:30:02] Alexis got out fast. [02:30:43] Crystal isn't safe either. [02:30:59] literally every single queer person in the US isn't safe [02:31:19] thanks for worrying about us though <3 [02:31:25] _land of the free_ ay [02:31:50] yeah, you get your free fear of wondering whether or not you'll live for the next few years :) [02:32:12] <25centprodigy> [1/2] SCP poster [02:32:12] <25centprodigy> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1331088932334473307/secure_contain_enlist_poster.png?ex=679058ab&is=678f072b&hm=41430cb3dc2d7ba1e2031aac4ddbfea556687fd835505fce4145c0e277700b79& [02:32:13] whether or not you can even go on for that time disliking your body [02:32:17] <25centprodigy> Oh im sorry [02:32:25] <25centprodigy> Did not realize yall was talking [02:32:31] I agree. Nobody should walk down the street and fear getting hate crimed; seems to be ever more common in the US and I fear this will intensify that 100 fold. [02:32:38] whether or not the non-profit status of the organsation you're volunteering for could have its NP status stripped for "terrorism" [02:32:45] 25centprodigy: don't worry, it's okay ^_^ [02:33:52] <25centprodigy> Wait trump is cutting ties with the W H O ???? [02:34:00] <25centprodigy> :husk: [02:34:10] Philippines is in a bind too. President Marcos Jr. literally said no to sex education. [02:34:40] And his dad is far worse. Ever heard of Martial Law? [02:35:02] mediawiki has 6% of its volunteers in a survey state that they're gender diverse [02:35:06] i uh, hope that doesn't change? [02:35:38] i am literally on the other side of the world, and yet i'm worrying about my future prospects [02:41:16] anyway, time to do a security review of an extension out of boredom :3 [02:42:12] I know but what thing specifically [02:42:22] O h [02:44:33] Course, for the wealthy white and Christian males [02:44:54] Did the no more NPO for you bill fail [02:45:22] pixldev: no [02:45:23] > The U.S. House of Representatives has passed a bill that would empower the Treasury Department to eliminate the tax-exempt status of any nonprofit it deems to be supporting terrorism [02:45:27] > Why a newly passed House “terrorism financing” bill could threaten nonprofits and free speech [02:45:36] first sentence of https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-the-house-bill-that-could-punish-nonprofits-over-alleged-terrorist-ties [02:45:39] and headline of https://thebulletin.org/2024/11/why-a-newly-passed-house-terrorism-financing-bill-could-threaten-nonprofits-and-free-speech/ [02:45:41] respectively [02:46:59] I hoped it would be shot in the Senatw [02:47:01] Welp [02:47:05] cya EFF [02:47:23] and Fight for the Future definitely [02:47:36] i wonder if they'll go after a nonprofit if one if its volunteers is just a lil too gay [02:49:30] We’ll see [02:49:32] Not specifically that, but the board has been looking at hypotheticals [02:49:52] hmm okay [02:50:12] in other news, i found an xss already [02:50:22] at least it's in an extension not deployed on miraheze [03:12:33] declaring war to terrorists is totally fine, I hope both Iran and Venezuela get destroyed. but I disagree with "fighting against woke-ism" or the silly idea that "trans people weaken the military" [03:17:17] so yeah it's been 11h16min, he said that he'd "end the war in Ukraine in less than 24 hours".. .still no news.. hahaha [03:33:44] [1/2] I'm a transgender female currently living in the United States, and until the day comes that Christian or Islamic extremism usurps the U.S constitution and overtakes all or most judicial, legislative, and executive elements of our government, I still feel largely every bit as secure in my legal rights, personal safety, social life, finances and [03:33:44] [2/2] career as I did when Biden was in office, and when Trump was in office during his first term. [03:33:45] The only thing that could genuinely reverse the progress made throughout the past sixty years in terms of LGBTQIA+ rights is a drastic nationwide ideological shift towards religions/political viewpoints fanatically opposed to queers, which is exceedingly unlike to occur considering contemporary trends. [03:34:04] hmm okay [03:34:18] and oh hey, there's another trans woman here ^w^ [03:36:12] let’s place our bets: which fedi platform are they on [03:36:24] ? [03:36:24] I’m gonna go with some fashion of *key [03:36:37] eh, there's plenty of queer folx on mastodon instances as well [03:37:11] fair [03:37:36] I actually do not bother with much social media beyond Discord. 🤣 [03:37:43] let’s use Discord’s Integrated Poll Feature(tm) to decide /j [03:41:52] you need to get on Westwood Chat [03:42:01] it’s the next big thing I’m telling you https://mastodon.social/@schrockwell/113851253386523094 [03:47:53] Oooo [03:48:09] remind me tmr to check that out please [03:48:41] [1/2] the installer is a whopping 978 kb [03:48:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1331108179056136315/Westwood_Chat-4.221.exe?ex=67906a98&is=678f1918&hm=ab03c76a6ef2743a1a2aa58b935470c0a4ff7b4be33f799455feff167664c9b5& [03:49:58] php has so many footguns... [03:52:36] Hey [03:52:43] It ain’t C [03:52:50] Ask Kevin [03:53:31] this version does work but wants a game account of some sort [03:53:54] so i'm getting the monopoly 95 version i guess [03:54:52] [1/3] here it is (though you will need OTVDM) [03:54:52] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1331109734316638278/WCHAT.EXE?ex=67906c0b&is=678f1a8b&hm=4a217b66066cdcd940663087c236db76d40e9ba5b9d85d18d7812350f7a259f9& [03:54:52] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1331109735000178789/WCHAT.HLP?ex=67906c0b&is=678f1a8b&hm=6126551b690b68dd482deda1668421ebc46df84d7fcb8e351e26933fadff3508& [04:03:29] Just was taking a look and Trump’s already broken the law [04:03:34] Only took 12 hours, heh [04:04:00] He can’t extend the TikTok ban deadline or direct the AG to ignore the ban’s penalties (he’s done both). [04:04:22] Kinda a constitutional crisis in effect right now (cc @notaracham per earlier heh) [04:06:04] call this man dream, he’s pulling a speedrun [04:06:08] and he is blocking funds appropriated by a law Congress passed, which is a clear violation of the Impoundment Control Act [04:06:38] and he signed an executive order blocking birthright citizenship, which is a violation of the 14th Amendment [04:06:45] lmao the President of the United States [04:06:47] what a joke [04:07:32] it’s all so very very illegal [04:12:04] A constitutional crisis is an event where the institutions of government can’t deal with something because it’s unprecedented [04:12:47] A president issuing an executive order that’s illegal isn’t anything new [04:12:57] [21/01/2025 15:06] call this man dream, he’s pulling a speedrun [04:12:58] lmfao- [04:13:30] when u find a potential rce in an extension: smort [04:14:06] at least you have to switch some php settings to get rce, afaik [04:14:24] I know right [04:14:43] I’m tired of politics I’m retreating to Westwood Chat [04:15:28] Well it’s not just that — Trump directed the AG to ignore the law [04:15:39] ^that part does fall into that bucket [04:15:54] There is some amount of discretional enforcement, but... this isn't that. [04:16:06] Like, directly too (not by trying to workaround saying that it’s actually legal), he just straight up said to ignore the ban [04:17:03] It's not the version of it I'm worried about, though. [04:17:44] I remember reading an old DOJ legal opinion where it was expressed that the AG can simply refuse to defend a law in the courts without any real consequence [04:18:17] It's more when it gets out of even the plausibly grey (enforcement discretion) and into the outright unconstitutional, e.g. "I have decided we aren't doing elections any more, regardless of the court or constitution" or "I will now be the judge in all trials I deem political" [04:18:33] I highly doubt that passed muster in the courts…right? [04:18:55] I doubt Trump would ever go that far. I can’t guarantee it, because Trump is Trump, but that’s far for anyone [04:19:16] But this is straight up instructing the DOJ to ignore the law, it’s retcon Andrew Jackson [04:19:16] while it could also be their prerogative, the instrument for correcting willful defiance of the law is prescribed as impeachment but if the legislative does not do anything then they are immune [04:19:49] Mildly interested to see how far Trump can push the limits of this office until Congress takes some action [04:19:54] the judiciary doesn’t really have “enforcement” powers per se so really, nothing can be done unless the legislative does something [04:20:13] Trump’s already drawn the ire of one senator though, they’re on directly opposite sides of this TikTok thing [04:20:25] ^ a GOP one (Tom Cotton) [04:20:37] which I’m interested to see where that goes [04:20:47] That’s true, but the legislative has created the law [04:21:06] If the DOJ doesn’t enforce it, could you stop it barring impeachment? [04:21:16] I’m shocked there’s no other enforcement route [04:22:08] Frankly though — it’s the most “constitutional crisis” in a long time. [04:22:22] imo of course [04:23:51] https://www.justice.gov/file/149186-0/dl?inline [04:23:57] A good read [04:24:06] <.labster> I think it’s time that we put aside our differences and unite behind the President. No matter where you’re from, whether it be New Jersey or Texas, Toronto or Nuuk, on the slopes of Mt. McKinley or the shores of the Gulf of America, we are all one nation [04:24:40] One nation, under Trump, indivisible, from Greenland to Canada to Panama [04:25:11] <.labster> Somewhat divisible tho [04:25:16] Quite so [04:25:41] Do we also think Trump is serious about taking Greenland or Panama by force? [04:25:58] Like, there’s no way he would invade allies, especially NATO ones….right? [04:26:37] Trump is 50% bluff [04:26:52] He just says things to get people scared and in the end, get his way [04:27:09] I don’t think anyone should seriously be worried about such bold and brash measures [04:27:48] <.labster> I think we’re past prediction, the range of possibilities boggles the mind [04:29:24] I’d like to see Canada invade the U.S. though [04:30:51] That’s what I’m worried about, Trump feels far more unstable than his first term (and just older, see: Biden) [04:31:11] Trump might nuke Canada (ducks) [04:31:41] <.labster> As much danger as trans folks are in, we are all in some degree of danger now. [04:32:30] <.labster> You know, more than the normal danger of guns everywhere. [04:33:25] I agree [04:33:55] Trump will be a lame duck after the midterms though, so…survive two years and hope for a Democrat for POTUS 48? [04:34:16] (Harris will run and probably win the nomination vs. Vance) [04:34:30] I would suppose their safety would continue to depend on the states. In a friendly state, they might not see much change other than maybe their passport change genders. In a not so friendly state, their situation would probably deteriorate [04:35:05] [1/35] westwood chat findings: [04:35:06] [2/35] ``` [04:35:06] [3/35] furbland has joined the channel. [04:35:06] [4/35] all right going afk for a bit [04:35:07] [5/35] i'll let folks chat here [04:35:07] [6/35] i've made it back [04:35:07] [7/35] i'm going to be perusing discmaster.textfiles.com as i've found a couple [04:35:08] [8/35] other versions there [04:35:08] [9/35] so do expect to see some "NickName"s logging on and off for a bit [04:35:08] [10/35] right i've found what claims to be version 2.00 (this is 1.02 [04:35:08] [11/35] ) [04:35:09] [12/35] so [04:35:09] [13/35] trying that out right now [04:35:10] [14/35] Nickname has joined the channel. [04:35:10] [15/35] ok here i am on wchat 2.00 [04:35:11] [16/35] seems to work well [04:35:11] [17/35] actually has a function to make a channel [04:35:12] [18/35] but server messages are mixed in with normal messages for some reason [04:35:12] [19/35] there is also a block feature [04:35:13] [20/35] "squelching" [04:35:13] [21/35] Nickname has left the channel. [04:35:14] [22/35] back on 1.02 [04:35:14] [23/35] it appears created channels don't appear in the list even if they're made with the feature on 2.00 [04:35:15] [24/35] moving on to the next version [04:35:15]