[00:24:01] C# is a bit strange [00:24:07] It's like, Microsoft Java [00:24:11] Java but worse [00:24:51] Or just, not install Windows that will autoinstall Recall [00:25:21] "Compatible" is just DRM btw [00:25:48] That was the whole point. It's designed based on java. [00:25:54] Eliminate it very violently [00:26:03] Originally, anyway. It far outshines Java nowadays [00:26:08] Not really [00:26:10] Java > C# [00:26:12] :steamhappy: [00:27:03] People are allowed an opinion, so heh. [00:28:23] Correct, you made a statement tho so [00:28:26] If your CPU have built-in NPU that can run Copilot, I'm sure that Recall will be installed now or later [00:28:36] Not necessarily [00:28:48] Grab one of the less shitty Windows 11 versions [00:29:02] I was referring more to performance. [00:29:06] Ah [00:29:07] Sure [00:29:15] Rip [00:29:22] The CIL VM lacks some dynamic features that HotSpot has [00:29:31] So it can optimize a bit better [00:29:32] I guess I can save myself the hassle of disabling recall then heheh [00:29:38] Tho the HotSpot JIT is pretty damn good nowadays [00:30:03] (I haven't benchmarked personally) [00:30:19] But I did hear anecdotal evidence of C# being faster [00:33:40] Mmm, I remember preferring C# to Java back when I first compared the two about 8 years ago, but I can't remember why specifically. All I know is that I haven't touched Java since, but I still keep coming back to C# every now and again. [00:34:42] If there is one good thing about Java though, it's that backwards compatibility is an easy thing to work with. I was able to plug in ~20 year old code into a new project and it just worked. [00:36:12] [1/2] The thing I hate about Java is that it just feels dead -- I know thats very much not the case, but there doesn't seem to be anything new actually coming from Oracle. [00:36:12] [2/2] Sure, you've got Spring, Kotlin etc, but none of them are actually developed primarily by Oracle, whereas the C# ecosystem is so much better -- Microsoft actually puts effort into stuff (Blazor, SignalR etc); sure, they don't always get it right but [00:37:50] I have preinstalled Windows without recall [00:38:04] Oh ? [00:38:33] [1/2] Huh [00:38:33] [2/2] We get a lot of new features, just not from Oracle since Oracle doesn't really manage Java much anymore [00:38:36] And like [00:38:46] I don't think most of the C# ecosystem is actually properly portable ? [00:38:59] Why would you want Microsoft stuff anyway [00:39:05] I def wouldn't want to use Oracle frameworks in Java [00:39:23] In fact I feel like there's too many features in Java now [00:39:24] I liked 8 [00:39:28] Thats the issue; why would I use a language that relies on mostly third party development? [00:39:53] Most C# stuff is pretty portable. C# has been cross platform since like 2016 with .Net Core [00:43:20] (PHP is arguably better than both anyway so heh) [00:51:19] C/C++ has been growing on me. I honestly never thought I'd miss pointers of all things. [00:52:12] C++ kinda gives me the ick [00:52:31] Like why do i need both a header file and the main code file? Whack af [01:07:06] Uh [01:07:18] Cuz why would the folks that make the language make the ecosystem ? [01:07:30] They make a language [01:07:48] C++ makes me wanna die [01:07:48] C is life [02:14:07] tbh, if it's slow but gets essential updates, it probably appeals to me more these days [02:14:20] pretty much for every software [02:15:01] and essential completely ignores bullshit like recall or unasked for features or superficial ui crap or bloaty bits, I'm talking zero days, bugs, xfce-style feature increments [02:15:20] xfce has my permanent respect for that reason [02:48:43] Thanks for this! I was vaguely aware that Thor put together a resource compendium, love his content. [02:49:01] Thor is incredible in SO many ways [02:49:27] The internet is truly blessed to have him [02:50:41] His Discord has a ton of awesome stuff for learning hacking and sec research [02:50:51] Probably game dev too [02:50:54] Yep, no human is faultless or flawless, but glad to see a person who had luck/timing meet opportunity/preparation take success and pay it back to and build the community. [02:50:54] let ne check [02:51:07] Definitely [02:51:41] besides being such a positive and motivational person I am personally a big fan of his philosophy with TTS donations too [02:51:54] I think the respect he gives that is something we should see more of [02:53:36] For context to others, donations to him are added to a queue, he plays the TTS on demand and responds. Any messages he doesn’t get to by the end of the stream, he doesn’t keep the money, but lists it as debt and gives to charity [02:53:54] I’m not sure if the Ferret Rescue he runs is included [02:53:58] dont think do [02:54:11] Not to my understanding. That itself has a very interesting funding model. [02:54:25] actually he said that the ad revenue from the Ferret Software streams pay for it entirely [02:54:34] Yep, that's what I recalled as well [02:54:45] Which, wild, but makes total sense [02:55:01] That's like, peak wholesome advertiser gold [02:56:19] Sent you the invite directly to the gamedev resource channel thwre too btw [02:56:49] [1/2] *aight the internet being dumb again time to shut them up and get back to what’s important: cool shit” [02:56:50] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1342329153059426336/image.png?ex=67b93cf1&is=67b7eb71&hm=08e6823350d3f68b9de13ffce5aff59ae393bd15b76e72d9ffb159c81fcad259& [02:58:44] #ThorForStreamerOfTheYear /j [02:59:00] League of His Own award also epic though [03:01:50] To the last bit, have you ever met a not trolly hacker? [03:02:13] Although I’m sure he was an interesting character for his coworkers in the DoE [03:06:17] Joined, getting acclimated, thanks! [03:09:59] may see you around in #hack-the-planet haha [05:06:34] [1/3] What typa PC video should I use? [05:06:34] [2/3] I am pretty much used to KineMaster (I make decent shit with it now) but I don't have Phoni on me/Tabi SUCKS at charging. So yea. [05:06:34] [3/3] Also call me a broke b!tch but i don't want anything you have to pay for. Also ew adobe. [05:07:59] wdym pc video? [05:08:26] This question is for windows users btw (BLANKECLAIR YOU SAW ME TYPING ASF) [05:08:49] tf you mean saw you typing [05:08:50] i'm on irc [05:09:15] outdated tech 💀 [05:09:28] /cs op #miraheze-offtopic [05:09:42] /ban FFU (/j) [05:10:28] irc users need typing reciepts on god ts pmo to skibidi 💀 [05:10:31] god this table is a mess, why am i a hoarder [05:10:53] Dont you diss IRC [05:10:58] :Bonk: [05:11:31] outdated tech it's like an android except if it was an android user in 2020 [05:11:50] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ONn4mmx5rCw [05:13:10] Why are there ads on this [05:13:23] da faq [05:14:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1342363825663381655/Rain_-_Forum_Weaponry-ONn4mmx5rCw.webm?ex=67b95d3b&is=67b80bbb&hm=70bd74d990209a0e3e71845ebd3b8d7d410097c47dc7902b7ef1bc3e6427ef51& [05:14:54] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CgaqG_YsySQ [05:15:36] shit i'm outta options [05:15:39] get russian ip vpn/proxy, no ads lol [05:16:01] It's webm, good girl [05:16:06] gaergserherergsergaegawegaeawegawegawegawe [05:16:10] Pats pats :3 [05:16:15] 1 handed keysmash ^^; [05:16:19] Eheheh [05:16:35] [1/2] I see Claire keysmash [05:16:35] [2/2] I just pat her automatically~ [05:16:40] Kisses :3 [05:16:41] sagwaegwaegawhdrtjrhfdrgsergserhdrhserhstj [05:16:44] Such a cutie [05:16:50] awrewefwerheyjrthsgawefaewgresthrj [05:17:01] Ily,,, [05:17:10] ilyt 🩷 [05:17:25] Wait I got my Discord emojis here [05:17:27] [1/2] tfw you cant understand this convo smh [05:17:27] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1342364542545690645/image.png?ex=67b95de6&is=67b80c66&hm=b50d7110918f60e3103a46c895d1e9823c385a5422d463f79a67f755ba5f1cb9& [05:18:01] i love windows [05:18:05] Ahaha [05:18:16] Nah, you love me silly [05:18:20] [1/2] >i love windows [05:18:20] [2/2] >uses linux [05:18:20] serhetgswetaw3ratjthswrgawefawef [05:18:25] Ehehe [05:18:29] that was sarcasm ntw [05:18:30] The bottomsmash even got a 3 in there, fancy~ [05:18:46] Kisses [05:18:52] Mwah <3 [05:19:36] MWAH [05:20:24] rufus, word, powerpoint, most video games, paint [05:21:29] ? [05:22:02] oh yea ldplayer [05:22:17] [1/4] * rufus is banger ngl, i agree [05:22:17] [2/4] * i prefer text based formats over wysiwyg editors tbh [05:22:18] [3/4] * consider earthbound and mother 3 :3 [05:22:18] [4/4] * no wau you're serious about paint [05:23:04] and celeste runs natively under linux [05:23:28] What is the argument here [05:23:31] idk tbh [05:23:39] The games I play run on Linux, and often don't run on Windows [05:23:43] dd > rufus [05:23:48] [1/6] >i prefer text based formats over wysiwyg editors tbh [05:23:48] [2/6] terminal editors xd [05:23:49] [3/6] >consider earthbound and mother 3 :3 [05:23:49] [4/6] terminal games xd [05:23:49] [5/6] >no wau you're serious about paint [05:23:50] [6/6] terminal whatever the hell paint is xd [05:23:52] And for paint I got a Windows XP VM [05:24:00] tf you mean mother 3 is a terminal game [05:24:13] Atp I think they are just trolling [05:24:35] Oh Claire can u get mew verified finally [05:24:55] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1342366420851494922/2025-02-21_16-24.png?ex=67b95fa6&is=67b80e26&hm=e1de6c53db0695d281b8ba338130dd698f3ed572f768bd4c3461a92432ef40ad& [05:25:00] i can try :3 [05:25:02] Awa [05:25:06] Also check Matrix >:( [05:27:34] [1/2] linucks people actually doing and telling me they use the terminal is crazy 💀 [05:27:34] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1342367089037545533/image.png?ex=67b96046&is=67b80ec6&hm=0b4043b54e3e8db022f4320c4acb6e00d372713b154164a757be004b1d11c50d& [05:27:46] it should be obvious by now [05:27:49] [1/2] earthbound [05:27:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1342367149494243369/2025-02-21_16-26.png?ex=67b96054&is=67b80ed4&hm=86a5281b53ab9cb1b95b0a25df9dd778154ccde2dd65d1df04346e28cffb15d0& [05:27:59] oh [05:28:08] earthbound my beloved [05:29:38] Bonk em [05:29:41] earthbound -> pixels -> ms dos has pixels -> ms dos is a terminal -> linuck has a terminal -> TERMINAL GAME 💀🙏 [05:29:41] Trolling bad [05:30:24] windows -> has dos compatibility -> ms dos -> quick and dirty operating system [05:30:34] I replayed it in 2020 on android emulator [05:30:53] retroarch is love :3 [05:30:57] lvl 99 by final battle baby [05:30:57] retroarch is life [05:31:23] android -> android is based on linux -> linux has a terminal -> TERMINAL OS 💀🙏 [05:31:26] i should check what my level was at the end of the game [05:31:49] fucking save state 146 [05:32:06] ness at 80 [05:32:09] others ~70 [05:32:10] gonna be honest, this ain't getting funnier [05:32:38] idrc atp, everyone says that about me [05:32:49] :/ [05:37:31] [1/3] this is why i was bashing IRC (not terminals/linux, that happened more recently) [05:37:31] [2/3] you can't use the irc unless you have a fancy pants network, which i don't got. and my internet speed is actually fucking good. and yet i can't connect to this damn dinosaur machine. [05:37:31] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1342369592705810462/image.png?ex=67b9629a&is=67b8111a&hm=a4cdb565406ce53ab558b21b8e0b7d5edf6b465fa044b41790bc77bedeacf88e& [05:37:35] Bud, give it a rest. This isn't adding to the conversation others are trying to have. [05:38:10] i was about to say something of more worth but now idk now. [05:38:17] skibidi. [05:40:31] [1/2] oh yea thats why because i'm still BANNED [05:40:31] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1342370347365826630/image.png?ex=67b9634e&is=67b811ce&hm=13f5f0ffb156a1105bddf45d1cf7340eb11d2a605c6f4983e1a9888f70eff7f3& [05:41:51] what did i even do irc client thingy 🥺 [05:42:34] no one tell ffu that miraheze has open proxy bans [05:43:13] free my router it did nothing wrong [05:43:28] It's hosted on libera.chat so it's inaccessible anyway [05:48:18] RIP. [05:48:31] Time to get a new IP address. [05:49:14] ugh im prolly just gonna go and look at pictures of elon musk. i'll prolly come back tomorrow when y'all very least want me to pookies <3 [05:49:38] can't tell if your clock is desynced or if your internet is horrific [05:49:53] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1342372704862474322/2025-02-21_16-49.png?ex=67b96580&is=67b81400&hm=24150b0f0bec329f17f09fb62075a4390f677a9339f9eeabd4c4381586172bd4& [05:50:19] Probably the latter. [05:50:23] What's mine? [05:50:31] 203ms [05:50:42] No - It's terminally Terminal [05:51:03]