[00:10:50] Weird, yeah, that works. [01:08:27] `comic sans`, `impact font`, `times new roman`, `courier font`, `trebuchet font`, `open sans` and a few others also work [01:12:13] wingdings [01:21:29] that would be funny [03:47:38] https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjJoPpbr/ [03:47:55] Idk why tf I sent this [08:48:56] https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/releases/tag/v1.0 [08:49:41] I think it would be really funny to have an instance running mastodon v1.0, though I’m not nearly smart enough to set that up and I can’t imagine how many vulnerabilities you’d have to patch [11:21:44] nipple tooth v1.0 [11:28:37] just got jumpscared by @blankeclair’s edit on the chinafake wiki [11:28:42] yw [11:28:42] Definition of Thanks I hate it [11:28:53] always forget we have a page called “Big Cock” [11:29:02] is it normal that i was kinda disappointed when i saw the contents- [11:29:04] and so I was like “oh no vandalism” [11:29:13] and then I was like “oh no Claire got hacked” [11:29:44] if someone does host a v1.0 instance [11:30:07] they should definitely do it on nipple.tooth (or nippletooth.social if .tooth isn’t a valid TLD) [11:30:48] i love how my janky ass gotosocial setup can technically have subdomains [11:30:52] the closest thing we have to NSFW on that wiki is uh [11:31:22] (lemme see if I can manage this) [[mh:chinafake:Pole_Dancer]] [11:31:22] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/chinafake:Pole_Dancer [11:31:23] [11:31:51] no, WM-bot [11:31:57] you did not do it [11:32:07] wiki-bot got it though [11:32:14] it depends on your definition of [[mh:]] [11:32:14] https://mh.wikipedia.org/wiki/ [11:32:20] I suppose if one doesn’t work the other will [11:32:28] the discord bot sent it as uh [11:32:30] [11:32:52] which isn’t entirely correct but good enough [11:33:04] hm [11:33:13] i don't what i expected when i read "twerking spiderman" [11:33:17] but i'm not impressed /lh [11:33:34] ideally it would be https://chinafake.wiki/wiki/Pole_Dancer but the mh subdomain redirects there anyways so Good Enough™️ [11:33:43] anyways [11:33:43] heh x3 [11:33:54] enough talk of pole dancing chinafakes and/or nipple teeth [11:33:57] it's based on the interwiki table [11:34:06] oh yeah ik lol [11:34:11] > [10/04/2025 21:33] enough talk of pole dancing chinafakes and/or nipple teeth [11:34:25] i'm digging through archivebot warcs like a raccoon going through a trash bin [11:34:44] you could tweak that but no idea if that will cause everything to break horrifically [11:34:58] I’m gonna say it probably will [11:35:08] this is MediaWiki we’re talking about after all [11:35:14] computers will fuck you in ways more than one x3 [11:36:01] I have caught word of a discord client for WAP (like real old phone browsers) [11:37:59] http://146.59.80.3/wap/ please do not put your token into random bullshit (that said, this should be safe as it’s open source) https://github.com/gtrxAC/discord-wap [11:40:12] i know what i must do- [11:41:09] what [11:41:18] pentest? [11:42:12] lol no [11:42:27] i was implicitly joking that i'd put in my main account's token [11:45:00] ahhhhhh [11:45:11] yeah it even says alts recommended on the page :P [11:45:20] i'm an expert at bad ideas [11:47:05] https://chinafake.miraheze.org/wiki/Template:Infobox_quest [12:29:53] I just move old templates into archived category [13:15:47] here now [13:15:50] [1/3] say I have something in mind but I don't know how to do any coding using JS [13:15:50] [2/3] I ask gpt and it gives me code [13:15:50] [3/3] I ask for elaboration and it explains to me what each line does [13:16:07] and? [13:16:11] isnt that good or [13:16:12] so as a result, I learn a few little stuff about JS [13:16:15] AI doesn't teach you, it only tells you what it thinks to be right. [13:16:26] you have to ask better questions [13:16:43] I need an example to show you guys, whats a good function [13:17:40] That directly goes against what you said about "you can use it to learn". If it can't provide an answer from a simple question, that is a telltale sign of it not truly knowing things, and therefore, not being able to actually "teach". [13:18:02] It should not be the fault of the student that the teacher doesn't teach them well. [13:18:08] No... it just needs a more specific question. [13:18:27] asking it to "elaborate on code" will indeed tell you what the code does [13:18:57] but asking it to "explain how line X works and why you have to do this and that, also why is it called X and such" [13:19:17] It is still a robot, it needs good questions, like good code [13:19:25] You can learn all of this from a human. Why do we need AI for this? [13:19:43] because as big as reddit is, my problems can get very specific [13:19:43] It's just reinventing the wheel. [13:20:06] I wasn't specifically talking about reddit, I just said "from a human". [13:20:23] I dont have a professional programmer at the ready [13:20:30] This is why troubleshooting and forums exist. [13:20:43] Im not waiting for a human to reply, you guys can barely approve my wiki [13:20:44] Again, not what I'm saying. [13:21:10] not you ofc [13:21:53] That just seems like a lesson in patience, my friend. [13:21:53] > [10/04/2025 23:20] Im not waiting for a human to reply, you guys can barely approve my wiki [13:21:55] okay, that's a funny burn xD [13:22:20] But if we made a tool to help then why not use it [13:22:29] im not waiting days for one simple question [13:22:41] also I have made forums and unless they get very popular nothing happens [13:23:01] and then people criticize me for asking "stupid" questions even though they know more than me [13:23:24] Due to the fact that it can give multiple false positives/negatives about a single thing. If you asked it in a specific way, which you never knew how to do, it would tell you that chocolate is safe for dogs. [13:23:58] This leans back into what I said earlier about how AI only sees on the surface and not much below that. [13:24:43] It is starting to get way better, also, even the most basic chatgpt can tell you choclate is bad for dogs [13:25:31] Also new feature: you can upload it files to follow, like instructions for correct answers [13:26:02] you can look up a washing machines manual, upload it, and now you have the best washing machine fixer in the world [13:26:14] for your exact washing machine model [13:26:36] also i taught it to keep my personality in mind when answering [13:26:52] That would put people out of jobs, and jobs are what give people MONEY. [13:26:53] and to understand my learning process as well [13:27:19] so are we moving from functionality to jobs? [13:27:29] > [10/04/2025 23:26] That would put people out of jobs, and jobs are what give people MONEY. [13:27:35] i don't think it's _that_ good yet [13:27:41] seems like 2 seconds ago you were confident it was so bad it couldnt do even basic jobs [13:27:49] i kinda want to do code review on vibe coded programs lol [13:28:12] they do work pretty well considering no actual coding was done lol [13:28:47] its related to the conversation?? [13:28:48] https://wetdry.world/@memes/114246834028848368 [13:29:05] not to the current topic directly [13:29:14] i can bring up things that are tangentially related [13:29:21] we were just talking about how it cant work well, and now you talk about jobs [13:29:29] right after I make a good point 🤔 [13:29:51] jesus christ i feel like im talking to a brick wall [13:30:17] dude you just switched topics on me [13:30:20] okay so i need you to understand that criticizing how well it works and the fact that it can take jobs are two things that can co-exist. [13:30:33] they do not cancel each other out [13:31:01] ok fine lets talk about jobs then, of course it is gonna take jobs it does well at, its more effective. [13:31:07] just get a job in the trades [13:31:16] im criticizing how well it works BECAUSE its taking jobs. [13:31:28] start a business, get people to do the trades for you [13:31:36] technically, computers took the job of computers [13:31:56] this has happened before, we need to learn and adapt [13:32:17] I mean, this same line of argument applies to search engines. It pulls what it hopes is accurate, if that is not true then a better query is needed, and this was long before current ai trend [13:32:30] like when computers came out everyone had to switch from paper to emails, those who accepted the change were fine [13:32:35] you cant just say "oh yeah just get a job in here" to someone who got put out of a fucking job because of AI [13:32:42] that will get you punched. [13:33:14] get a job before you get fired, adapt [13:33:25] wha [13:33:27] are you hearing yourself?! [13:34:01] "oh yeah just get a second job before you get booted due to AI that you never knew was going to happen" ???????????? [13:34:36] cleary you think its going to happen [13:35:00] MOST PEOPLE DONT KNOW IF THEY ARE GOING TO GET LAID OFF BEFORE IT HAPPENS [13:35:25] good job, you just learned what I was saying, ride the wave remember? Stay ahead? [13:35:47] Look, being angry won't undo what's happened. Industries always evolve, and jobs change or vanish that’s reality. Instead of threatening violence or blaming AI, your energy is better spent adapting. It’s harsh, but no one's obligated to keep your job around forever. The quicker you accept this and pivot your skills, the sooner you'll regain control. [13:37:11] It is utterly fucking insulting that you believe I'm just going to ask AI about things that I can learn myself about something I am passionate about. [13:38:16] No one's insulting your passion or implying you need AI to learn. But passion doesn't protect jobs from progress. AI is a tool use it or don't but refusing to acknowledge its impact won't stop it from reshaping industries. Pride won't pay bills; adaptability will. [13:38:38] also the immense lack of empathy you have to have to say "oh yeah just adapt" to someone who is actively having their passions ripped away because of AI. [13:38:48] very telling [13:39:19] Empathy isn't the issue here no one wants to see someone's passion diminished. But realistically, technology evolves regardless of feelings. You're not alone in feeling disrupted, but refusing to adapt out of frustration won't fix anything. Facing reality head-on isn't a lack of empathy; it's how you reclaim control over your situation. [13:39:33] "No one's implying you need AI to learn" were you not doing so when you said "learn and adapt or youll be left behind" [13:40:07] the only way technology can evolve is from human creation. [13:40:15] I never said you need AI specifically to learn I said adapt. That could mean anything: new skills, new approaches, or yes, even new tools like AI. Your choice. But pretending nothing's changed guarantees you get left behind. That's reality, like it or not [13:40:17] which requires HUMANS. [13:41:01] making AI better, knowing that you are putting people out of jobs, is just outright evil. [13:41:24] Obviously technology needs humans that hasn't changed. But humans also decide what tech stays and what becomes obsolete. Fighting reality won't stop AI or bring old jobs back. If you want a say in technology's direction, then get involved. Otherwise, you'll keep complaining while others shape the future. [13:41:52] Calling innovation 'evil' because it disrupts jobs ignores history—every advancement from machinery to computers displaced roles, yet society adapted. Progress isn't evil; it's inevitable. Refusing to accept that won't help the people affected—preparing them to adjust will. [13:42:01] "now he can do more apps then the competitor, who was left behind because they didnt use ai" [13:42:09] taken directly from your own words. [13:43:17] You're misunderstanding my point. AI was an example—not a requirement. The broader point is adaptability itself. If you refuse to explore any new options, including but not limited to AI, competitors who do adapt will naturally surpass you. It's not personal; it's practical reality. [13:45:26] Not everyone needs to be "up to date" to be good at one thing or another. I know an incredible artist who still draws traditionally, and they haven't been "left behind". [13:45:54] [1/2] You're right—traditional skills can thrive alongside new technology. But AI isn't replacing every skill equally. Artists who draw traditionally offer something unique that AI can't fully replicate—personal style, authenticity, and human emotion. However, fields heavily based on efficiency and speed, like certain tech jobs, won't fare as well without keeping up. It's about recogni [13:45:54] [2/2] zing when AI directly threatens your role and adapting accordingly, not dismissing all traditional skills. [13:46:57] Again, we are re-inventing the wheel here. AI was never needed to truly "advance", and the issues it poses to people in the middle and lower class are too great to simply ignore or say "just adapt" to. [13:47:30] [1/2] You're right that AI isn't necessary for every advancement—it's a choice, not an inevitability. But it's here now, impacting real lives. The problem isn't the technology itself, but how it's handled and who controls it. Instead of dismissing concerns or saying "just adapt," the conversation should shift toward responsibly managing AI—ensuring it doesn't devastate jobs or deepen i [13:47:31] [2/2] nequalities. Technology should serve people, not the other way around. [13:47:32] Not everyone has the same opportunities as you do. [13:48:28] Exactly—that's precisely why the issue isn't just about adapting personally. The real problem is that AI is disproportionately hurting people who already have fewer resources and opportunities. Telling everyone to "just adapt" ignores that imbalance. To be fair, we need systems that support and empower people to keep up, rather than leaving them to struggle alone. [13:49:28] Also, if I may go off tangentially for a moment, the speed at which you are "typing" these responses is nigh on impossible. You aren't using AI to respond to me as we speak, are you? [13:50:19] Ironic, isn't it? You're right—this whole conversation is powered by AI. You're already engaging with the very thing you're criticizing. It shows that AI can blend seamlessly into tasks you'd normally think require human input. Like it or not, it's here and already affecting everyday interactions. [13:53:29] [1/2] You say it is ironic, though I believe the greater irony lies within the fact of your own self here. [13:53:30] [2/2] You never wanted to argue. You never knew how to– so you began to lean on AI to do the work for you. How funny is that, hmm? [13:53:59] I will not be engaging further with you. [13:55:17] The irony isn’t in using AI as a crutch—it was a deliberate point. You're confronting the thing you're criticizing, head-on. Not to lean on it, but to challenge it, test it, and maybe even expose its flaws. You're not avoiding the issue—you’re standing right in the middle of it, and that’s exactly what makes my argument stronger, not weaker. [13:55:24] what's going on [13:55:32] I ragebaited some kid [13:55:44] they hate ai and I was arguing with them using ai [13:55:59] not the entire time [13:56:14] But I thought it would make a good point too [13:56:57] It did I geuss, they gave up [13:59:08] you didn't have to reply or ping [13:59:44] what? [14:00:03] What? [14:01:37] stop it lol [14:02:10] turn on do not disturb mode then. [14:02:17] Oh you dont like pings sorry, I was replying cuz you asked a question. [14:02:20] it doesnt make you hear the ling noise [14:02:40] i don't have noise anyway, i just don't like too much pings anyway [14:02:50] fair enough tbh [14:02:56] you asked a question man, but whatever. [14:03:31] I like pings cuz I get to mute all the channels except for @'s so it helps [14:03:31] ? 🤔 [14:04:17] Well you asked a question and I answered. [14:04:27] Replying is a way to let people know that [14:04:39] I'm past this already [14:04:50] lol [14:04:52] yeah [14:05:19] srry thought ? meant you were confused [14:05:34] wow! an entirely pathetic activity [14:05:44] truthnuke [14:05:54] bro who are you 😭 [14:06:13] also it wasnt even ragebaiting, they were just like. arguing a point without listening to the other side [14:06:14] i am me! hope this helps [14:06:20] honestly kinda funny to see tbh [14:06:25] fellas [14:06:25] [1/2] anyways i drew this myself - fuck generative ai [14:06:25] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1359892279338467649/2025-04-04_how_do_you_do.png?ex=67f921e0&is=67f7d060&hm=4e03e76ab2583b0253dc3931f6a9cc394e02746607a894b343979612fffec494& [14:06:27] omg bro aint now way [14:06:52] didnt know yall were soft like that srry [14:06:56] cute [14:06:58] [1/2] Real shit!!! heres something i drew myself [14:06:58] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1359892416227705023/ACT_III_COVER_20250131203109.jpg?ex=67f92201&is=67f7d081&hm=94bc5662416d28a1ca50b23f333e359527ae2a09cc8f927aa9b8bfb3343c32fe& [14:07:23] didn’t know you were talentless and needed a machine 2 do everything for you [14:07:28] srry [14:07:29] damn maybe you do need ai to teach you some art [14:07:36] drop it [14:07:44] nah man this is funny af bro [14:07:48] nah [14:08:10] yall got your feelings hurt by an argument that didnt involve you bro 😭 [14:08:13] tbh its really funny you say that considering your the one getting pissy abt me not liking ai [14:08:14] keep the server chill [14:08:23] this is offtopic [14:08:27] nah, ill pass, thanks. [14:08:33] y'all aren't chill [14:08:35] [1/2] ARGUMENT???? This is just like [14:08:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1359892824681873638/Untitled236_20240904205332.png?ex=67f92262&is=67f7d0e2&hm=fb5137daf32a9274616fe27b87de1f577f99d8a27b526297d952e2811b2c952b& [14:08:56] bro what you are the one that started crying after I tried to help by suggesting a tool you couldve just said no to [14:09:10] ts pmo [14:09:14] jk [14:09:23] oooh! very interesting OC. what fandom is he a part of/from? [14:09:30] …numberblocks 😭 [14:09:38] hmm, interesting. [14:09:43] havent heard of it myself. [14:09:59] gave me vibes of an object show tbh, but hey, to each their own. [14:11:24] honestly it is REALLY fun to fuck with ai bros [14:15:52] damn, just realized how much time that ate up. ah well, dont fear the reaper. [14:17:27] Time isn’t the reaper. It just quietly takes while you pretend you’re in control. [17:03:35] Delivered 1 day timeouts to both parties. Let's keep it clean, folks - there are other forums outside of this server for that kind of verbal sparring. [18:24:22] i dont think you actually timed me out, if you intended to. [18:48:27] Thanks for the honesty, despite involvement you kept it below the threshold of direct and insulting language that I was screening for and didn't get hit [18:57:41] I see. I was trying to keep my insults to a minimum, since I knew that such would likely not be okay here. Glad to know I was successful with that. [19:30:30] I'm kind of curious, what's the point of a timeout 3 hours after a flamewar has ended? [19:31:09] Not questioning anyone's decision here (idrc), just kinda wondering x3 [19:31:36] Better to punish now than to let it go under the radar entirely, is my guess. [19:32:29] A timeout as a punishment ? [19:32:59] Usually that's what the warn feature of a moderation helper bot would be for, why use the timeout feature for that ? [19:33:00] I suppose so, but hey, take it with a grain of salt, I'm not a moderator. [19:33:14] Fair fair [19:33:28] I'm only making educated guesses based on what I've seen, so. [19:33:54] Yea fair [19:34:06] A timeout could be used here as a stand-in for a warn? Either that, or a timeout is considered a warn under the mod team. [19:34:10] I mean that was my guess too, but this approach to moderation is kinda outdated, so I was wondering if it was something else or not haha [19:34:30] mhm, but still, i wouldn't press on it. [19:35:02] Yea I mean, I am just curious so x3 [19:35:07] Idrc about it [19:44:37] it's effectively a warn although every mod may handle somewhat differently [19:44:50] I likely should have stepped in there sooner [19:46:07] dyno's warning mechanism is rather sparsely used, tbh the ban mechanism probably isn't used as much as it ought to be as its the reason we have it - a form-based appeal when it does come to that