[00:44:20] @raidarr gay month exists [00:44:25] wait wrong ping [00:44:28] sorry raids [00:44:34] and wrong word darn apple [00:44:42] @blankeclair gay month begins [00:44:51] :3 [00:44:57] [1/2] > Ekins and King (2006) use the gerund “transgendering” to refer to the idea of moving from a pre-existing gender category to another, or living “between gender” or “beyond gender”. [00:44:58] [2/2] who is up here transgendering? [00:44:58] Prepare for gamer rgb server icons [00:45:02] LMFAO [00:45:15] Minecraft Wiki already did [00:45:20] Kindle modding [00:46:31] Not sure if we’ll be doing it again here [00:46:52] my school didn't make a gaynouncement, i'm disappointed /j [00:48:11] [1/2] they didn't do nothing though, so that's something x3 [00:48:12] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1378535567138226257/1748738888644.png?ex=683cf4cb&is=683ba34b&hm=f2ea981b52b9f82d6a1dc5d3108b89db8ee5e595c55913d7251462a4e6d4f9ca& [00:49:01] I read IDAHO [00:49:33] bit [00:49:40] subtle one from Rain World [00:50:25] i'm listening to the transgender ost lol [00:50:53] omg did they release the game [00:51:00] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69VV0pH57XE [00:51:15] oh yea have you watched She-Ra yet [00:56:39] not yet ^^; [00:59:55] Oh damn, you're in for a treat [01:05:27] once i get 'round to watching it, yes [01:15:51] 🤝 [01:16:22] I’ll say it’s probably my absolute favorite show ever in regards to casual representation that I can think of [01:18:23] There’s quite a few queer(including gay, lesbian, I think one implied trans and equivalent to enby) among the supporting cast, antagonists and even main cast(and overlap between them 🤭), and yet I don’t think any of those words or equivalent are every said in the show once [01:18:47] It’s not commented on as weird or unusual by anyone at any point [01:20:27] It’s just a natural part of the world, learning about someones two dads provokes exactly the same reaction it would if it was learning about their mom and dad [01:20:51] (that scene is notable for other reasons, not gender or sexuality lol) [05:38:37] http://www.thelemapedia.org/index.php/Special:Version [05:38:40] mw 1.3.6!! \o/ [06:26:35] As an ally, to any LGBTQ, just rock that damn boat. [06:39:10] My god, forty versions out of date. [06:40:08] The front age was last modified in 2012. That homepage is 13 years old. [06:41:58] The last people to edit were scam artists posting their scam pages and content on there. [08:53:40] older than most fisch players [08:53:46] crazy [11:47:30] New record! [11:52:36] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1378702773817966642/ScreenRecording_06-01-2025_04-47-53_1.mov?ex=683d9084&is=683c3f04&hm=44d50170faa4d3a826bf6e82d794014a447a65361b1ed3fb1cac07da956297fb& [11:52:55] this pops into my head whenever I see a water cooler [11:54:26] I highly suggest checking out this episode in particular and really all of homestar runner if you haven’t seen it yet https://homestarrunner.com/sbemails/161-4-branches [12:06:25] mmm thelema [12:07:02] i mean why the fuck it won't be on ancient mw lol [12:07:23] it's like old magick tomes [12:16:52] https://bsky.app/profile/rainverse.wiki/post/3lqhzzamuks2g [12:45:55] But, I am still older than that entire wiki. [12:48:18] same [13:06:35] Homestar Runner and its wiki are goated [13:12:54] It’s funny to me [13:13:10] I’m a lifelong He-Man fan and am gay and transgender [13:13:19] Never got into the she ra reboot [14:03:40] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1378735754347282552/I_am_gaster.mp4?ex=683daf3b&is=683c5dbb&hm=cf97ca68476b58b6845acfb277773b9622ecb11aff7ea26e1d632c3968992d46& [14:18:49] I remember being assigned to that at Fandom [14:19:01] The most dull show I have ever been forced to watch [14:20:18] Its pretty fast though gotta give them that [14:39:38] Oh gee, I wonder who this is, and I wonder who I am or not. [14:45:43] (all year long) [15:21:32] Get out of my sight [15:21:54] Oh yeah, this reminded me of my favourite music video: https://youtu.be/CUPHqhotql0 [15:23:29] https://youtu.be/NZX6YQKAxsE?si=5lbF1U0c_Resp5jN [15:24:01] Undertale mentioned. [15:24:03] Millions must die. [15:24:46] I used to be a huuuugeeee Undertale fan. [15:24:55] deltarune [15:24:57] I would say I was obsessed with it as a teenager. [15:25:02] DELTARUNE... IS 3 DAYS AWAY!!! [15:25:26] I think my favourite Undertale AU character was either Ink Sans or Error Sans. [15:25:38] i never liked them [15:25:44] This means war.... [15:26:47] go my papyruses [15:26:58] go my deltarune theory that papyrus is The Knight [15:28:09] It's weird how people don't think that Chara was the first human. [15:28:21] Nor how some people don't know that the Asgores adopted Chara. [15:28:22] im the firdy human grrrrrrr [15:28:31] asgores?? [15:28:36] it's dreemurs [15:28:40] Meh. [15:28:56] you failed undertale we have to kill you [15:29:02] How do you feel about Sans being Ness? [15:29:21] William Afton is Toy Chica [15:29:27] Fandom staff being assigned to work on wikis explains so much [15:29:31] No. [15:29:54] https://tenor.com/view/deep-magic-lion-witch-narnia-dont-recite-gif-14879671 [15:30:12] https://tenor.com/view/slenderman-slender-man-slenderman-eight-pages-slenderman-and-the-eight-pages-slender-gif-17483036530208102440 [15:30:28] I remember when FNaF first released, it was considered the scariest game at the time, and evveryone at school was trying to get a copy of it onto their USB from this one kid in class. [15:30:47] And this was before I graduated Primary School. [15:31:07] Yeah, I noticed that too lmao. [15:31:16] "Damn, why's it so snapp though." [15:31:36] god [15:31:48] Probably before WMF added loads of useless bullshit [15:31:51] the wikia skin looked good imo [15:32:01] (at 2015 that is) [15:32:02] Oasis was the best skin ever. [15:32:05] Fr [15:32:11] wsit i have picd [15:32:17] pics of it [15:32:27] Oh yeah OA, do you still have those edited Docker files or the edited repo on had. [15:32:50] I started using Fandom back in 2017, but I didn't create an account until 2019. I so miss Legacy Wikia. [15:32:54] this skin looked good [15:33:03] When UCP was created, so like 2018/2019 I think. [15:33:27] Chat was so fucking good too, even if it was a weird ass implementation. [15:33:33] Yeah, erm, give me like 15 minutes i gotta remove some passwords and stuff (because of course I am dumb and just used a familiar password for the database lol) [15:33:43] Very hookable and customisable though. [15:33:43] the custom cursors... [15:33:54] There were like twenty scripts to customise the Chat on Dev Wiki. [15:34:01] i joined wikia circa 2015, not long fandom brand started replacing it [15:34:01] I think I have backups of all of them too. [15:35:15] Wikia was always a better name, Fandom sounded too corporate. [15:35:21] they started going round big wikis asking to tone down customisations, including cursors, in 2018 [15:35:40] "for the 'love' of fans" [15:36:06] Don't start on me on that fucking tagline. [15:36:27] [1/2] wikia actually told the purpose [15:36:28] [2/2] i never liked the word "fandom" but branding it is a terrible fucking behaviour [15:36:40] [1/2] let's add ads everywhere in miraheze and name the wikifarm name to Community [15:36:40] [2/2] "For the love of communities" [15:36:41] Oh my god, I was one of the first people to post about the Yellow/Purple rebrand when we still had Oasis available, I immediately called it the Tinder of Wikis. [15:36:54] It had a flaming tinder-esque logo for crying out loud. [15:37:07] Exactly [15:37:11] For harvesting it lol [15:37:21] the grimace incident [15:37:42] If Fandom can stoop as low as the Grimace Incident, then they can't be trusted. [15:38:13] proceeding w/ ai answers is even bigger red flag [15:38:42] I hate LLM's so much, I wish they could just be gone with a snap of my fingers. [15:39:40] [1/2] bring this skin back [15:39:41] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1378759917225246750/latest-1.png?ex=683dc5bc&is=683c743c&hm=ac9c19e2334ce0b0d060d68e47308066acad872615393a9a67964bb92f97049c& [15:39:46] community central looked way more lively [15:40:18] Oh my god, that was such a good skin. That's a lot of nostalgia right there. [15:40:52] Chat was removed in 2020. I remember that because it was removed a little after I met my gf in a wiki chat lmao. [15:41:12] so much better than the blank color rectangle. [15:41:33] Wiki Chat was peak, Discussions is crap. [15:41:35] just realized, the editing icon was a freddy lol [15:41:53] Lmao. [15:42:19] so wild Fandom doesn't let you style the `rectangle`. It can actually look okay wiht styling. [15:42:34] I definitely liked the later design of Oasis, but that design was the most popular, and most well-known. [15:42:45] [1/2] i think if chat stayed it would become as much disastrous as discussions [15:42:45] [2/2] but it didn't allow images, right? [15:43:09] wikia let people have more freedom in terms of styling huh [15:43:16] yup [15:43:22] yeppers [15:43:28] Chat was atleast customisable and moderatable, so people would've definitely made more systems to prevet abuse, I'm sure someone could've managed to hook AF up to Chat. [15:43:33] we should go back in time and stop them from becoming more corporate [15:43:37] It didn't allow for images, but it did have infinite emoticon slots. [15:43:50] those were the days [15:44:01] Those emoticons were fire. [15:44:09] i wish the cosmos skin had a setting to make it look more like this tbh [15:44:22] but im sure a good amount of js and css does the work [15:44:33] I respect Cosmos for what it is but it looks like my least favorite version of Oasis. [15:44:52] I don't like that no one has faithfully recreated any Oasis version. [15:45:21] discussions is shit tbh [15:45:21] They're all freely licensed under GNU. [15:45:31] no css even goes thetr [15:45:42] Discussions could be great if they wanted it to be. [15:45:57] But, they decided to make it detached from MediaWiki, why you might ask? [15:46:03] Discussions is so weird because it was such an objective downgrade compared to what was there before. [15:46:10] So they could license all Discussions content effectively as All Rights Reserved. [15:46:10] [1/2] i can't talk about fandom mobile [15:46:11] [2/2] it's so shitty [15:46:37] Feeds was so much better than Discussions. [15:46:38] and yet the images are uploaded on wiki ... [15:46:48] Seriously, what's up with that? [15:46:49] couldn't they do that without mediawiki revoked? [15:47:35] bro, when pizza tower joined here their files was a dumpster of shitposts [15:47:39] [1/2] i don't like how fandom doesn't let us change anything in their global footers [15:47:39] [2/2] they could do something like wiki.gg [15:47:47] aside from normal files [15:47:51] Fandom wants brand control and presentability. [15:47:54] lmao [15:48:03] fwiw the early version of discussions was a special page, but they changed that when it got removed from MediaWiki [15:48:12] Fear and Hunger wiki was just shitposts at one point. [15:48:14] They also want all brand elements to be consistent, not that it does much. [15:48:15] (even though their solution of hacking it into mediawiki is significantly worse) [15:48:16] They don’t even allow changes to the damn sidebar lol [15:48:32] Series of Unforunate Events wiki used to look SO GOOD [15:48:33] Yeah, it's annoying as fuck. [15:48:35] their Recent Images Module is ass [15:48:38] I don't even want to look at it anymore. [15:48:42] why add the fandom logo [15:48:47] Which is whats great about Miraheze, we don't have Global Navigation elements. [15:49:01] amen [15:49:05] But if we wanted to, they would definitely be either shark themed or FNaF themed. [15:49:13] And I will fight tooth and nail over that. [15:50:57] and when you hover over the fnaf one you have to wait until mr hippo finished his yapping [15:51:22] Of course, you can't interrupt such a pilot Hippo like that., [15:53:12] it also wouldn't really work with the amount of different skins [15:58:30] Oh, I'm sure we'd find a way around that. A lot of a skins have hooks for adding things, and there are also general MediaWiki skin hooks [15:58:52] But I doubt we'd ever do that. [17:49:40] This is far funnier than it has any right being [17:58:01] pirate software 💀 [18:05:11] my cabbages [18:05:55] It would be pretty easy [18:06:00] i knew a user Cabbage, w/ this guy on avi [18:06:26] There is hook that returns the output buffer just before its returned to the client in which it could be added inside of, hypothetically [18:07:19] why the 💀 [20:24:41] [1/2] best summarized here i believe: [20:24:41] [2/2] https://www.reddit.com/r/OutOfTheLoop/comments/1i5mdem/comment/m859mz9 [20:25:42] please god Thor is one of the few creators i still hold admiration and respect for dont ruin this for me too :sobbing: [20:27:15] oh [20:27:27] I've seen this thread before actually [20:28:08] Did not sell me, and if I recall correctly, Thor since made a video responding to most of these(but I may be misremembering) [20:28:29] ngl he also seemed cool but eventually he just started coming off weird to me (before all the big drama) [20:28:39] I am too tired to run through all the mental computing again, so I'll just trust in my previous judgement [20:29:13] the internet sucks enough already, I can't really spend more mental energy on making it worse for me [20:29:16] and then he seemed (to me at least) completely miss the point of skg which really dropped his rep down the sink [20:29:21] mood [20:30:44] on a less serious note about it: damn is he doing a yanderedev-type (without being nearly as awful as him ofc) business model where he just infinitely develops the game [20:32:13] I haven't really seen the replied from the other side on the SKG sitation, from watching only Thor's side, I did agree with him(mostly), but I'mnot fully informed, so I won't say anything definitive [20:32:33] Not nessesarily a fan of that either to be honest [20:36:26] [1/2] my understanding is that he understood the skg petition to call for devs to upkeep their servers forever (unreasonable) [20:36:26] [2/2] the petition is actually about allowing people to continue playing the game by releasing an offline patch, or by releasing server binaries as-is for the community to host (not too unreasonable) [20:36:48] it's been a while so i don't really remember the nuances either but that's basically what it boiled down to [20:37:01] I don't know if he significantly changed his opinion at some point [20:37:04] I would be much more supportive of the latter, but that also has it's issues [20:38:03] If you're launching a sequel to a game, say Genshin Impact 2: Electric Boogaloo, having to release a binary of the original's server or something(that can be decompiled) would be a big issue [20:38:06] .. [20:38:29] Actually that doesn't sound too bad for me as a slightly radical consumer but for companies less so [20:38:31] regardless [20:39:22] I do appreciate us holding a civil conversation about disagreements like this, sadly getting rare in the 'net of today [20:40:21] ah why bother bickering over some guy on the internet [20:40:40] there's better (worse) people to bicker over [20:42:24] [1/2] yeah I do think releasing server binaries is iffy [20:42:25] [2/2] patch out the always-online slop (fuck you, no more gambling for children in the open-world game) and just let them play the game [20:42:32] Oh certainly [20:51:28] The pirate software stuff 100% seemed like people trying to find something to be mad about, both parties involved in the supposed dispute called it a big ol' nothingburger [20:51:45] oh yeah that's why I stopped following soon after [20:51:47] Like Pix, I was deeply unimpressed after digging a bit beneath the surface. [20:56:24] the wow drama really didn't sell me either, even though it seemed to be a huge point at the time [20:57:31] should check where they ended up on the whole skg thing though [20:57:32] Honestly? That shit was super tame compared to the godawful shit I've heard re: competitive guilds. [20:58:55] for all i know he was just making content to draw in paint later lmao [21:00:02] Like, orders of magnitude more fine and polite vs identifying and social-engineering the cancellation of payment methods for members of a rival guild on the day of a major event. [21:00:18] ^Thing that has happened with inter-guild beef [21:01:16] they should consider using their skills to get rich, damn [21:01:30] Disproven, his video responding to most of this shit involved very little to no paint [21:01:43] I know, right? If you're going to be petty and do cybercrime, at least get paid I guess? [21:02:16] Perspective and non-cybercrime are preferable, but sheesh. [21:03:50] @notaracham, think you may find this one fun https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EQj1FGu9w_w [21:05:07] missed opportunity [21:05:30] i gotta give it to him, he can and did capitalized on paint so well [21:06:16] I mean, I entirely agree with and respect his reasoning for it [21:06:23] As an ADHD brain, it really helps me [21:07:10] any form of short-form content is all about how to capitalize on short attention spans and keeping them [21:07:14] The YouTuber Theo Browne, aka https://t3.gg also uses fun drawings in technical explanations to great affect [21:07:29] But with excalidraw [21:08:25] whether it's by actively having something happen all the time or by making a lot of cuts like the criminal science guy who runs a powerplant apparently (was it physicsduck?) [21:15:06] He’s fun [21:15:35] love that guy, just the right amount of unhinged [21:15:56] For me, the comedy is what hooks me [21:16:14] https://youtube.com/shorts/j2F1vH99A-U [21:16:26] This had me actually cackling irl [21:19:17] First one I saw was https://youtube.com/watch?v=3wrV0dRkRmg [21:19:20] modern poetry [21:20:38] and that's pretty cool (im not immune to propaganda) [21:20:45] A contemporary Shakespeare