[02:35:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1393782838062743713/1752374120898.png?ex=68746ceb&is=68731b6b&hm=b26f7316b9ec552cea1e6514045241f1e94bb2fb4389e947ef1c522513abe114&
[02:52:42] <BlankEclair>	 https://ellsberg.substack.com/p/free-speech
[02:52:45] <BlankEclair>	 what the fuck
[03:46:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> We'll. That's trouble.
[03:46:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Will be accelerating my review
[03:46:58] <BlankEclair>	 of?
[03:47:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> The patchwork of puritanical US State laws that have been cropping up.
[03:48:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> And how they may impact us
[03:48:10] <BlankEclair>	 ah
[03:50:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> (keeping up with the changing landscape is rapidly becoming a part if not full time job, every week brings a new facepalm-inducijg absurdity)
[04:01:01] <BlankEclair>	 you could write a whole newsletter about the state of trans issues in the US
[04:01:14] <BlankEclair>	 like https://erininthemorning.com
[04:01:27] <BlankEclair>	 (e: https://www.erininthemorning.com/)
[04:01:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i think the us has a lot of issues
[04:02:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> is putting it mildly
[04:03:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> so vehemently "land of the free", yet no freedoms to be seen
[04:23:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> That one family guy bit is evergreen
[04:24:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> which one
[04:24:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fxHWtw_GZIk&pp=ygUdRmFtaWx5bmZ1eSBubyBvbmUgZ2V0cyByaWdodHM%3D
[04:25:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> LOL
[04:30:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to pskyechology> "Alice isn't dead" (a of magical-realism horror-fantasy podcast by one of the nightvale folks) also had a lot of wonderful musings on the weird, occasionally beautiful and frequently malformed versions of American freedom
[04:32:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> (and bonus points to the silt verses as a scrappy spiritual successor in a non-US-centric universe)
[04:36:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to BlankEclair> That is fucked up, but also, eww substack.
[04:36:28] <BlankEclair>	 agreed, but oh well :p
[04:37:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> I have a Bluesky moderation tag I follow to weed out any substack links.
[04:44:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/2] For my own education, why eww? 
[04:44:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/2] Not a consumer of substack content generally, but I understand it as where good journalists have fled when their publication caves to fascists... alongside an unfortunate number of Nazi bloggers who aren't benefitted by someone visiting other non-nazi content.
[04:46:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> (Also totally valid to be grossed out by paywalls, but journos gotta eat too)
[04:47:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to notaracham> Nazi bloggers mainly.
[04:47:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> And yeah, I don't like paywalls.
[04:48:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Fair and fair
[04:48:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Which is also why I hate what Twitter has become now.
[04:49:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Yeah, the content to complicity ratio is far too far gone for any ethical use, imo
[04:49:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> there's a paywall on that article?
[04:49:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i didn't see one
[04:50:00] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> No, but substack offers subscriber only articles which is one reason I've seen people gripe
[04:50:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> ah
[04:53:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> That verges into a fundamental argument about economic systems, freedom of information, and the value of a person's labor that I do not have enough hours in the day to debate most days. 😅
[04:59:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i have an easier solution: not reading any of that and living in blissful ignorance
[04:59:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> knowledge gets depressing
[05:02:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> and if i do have the desire to torture myself, i can try reading centralauth code instead of the newest even more fucked up news :p
[05:08:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> A few minor celebrities have paywalled substacks and it’s basically just their walled off garden version of twitter and idk it never felt right to me.
[05:21:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to pskyechology> Blissful ignorance isn't any better.
[05:23:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> [1/3] depends
[05:23:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> [2/3] in general, I agree that it isn't 
[05:23:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> [3/3] given my own circumstances? hell yeah it is
[05:27:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> With blissful ignorance you can't complain about anything then, because you're not acting in a way to better or improve that. With more people claiming blissful ignorance is more people that aren't willing to help improve or change a system or way things are done.
[05:28:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> It's like if you don't vote during an election, you don't have a right to complain about the elected member if you didn't engage in the act of voting.
[05:29:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> not gonna bother arguing
[05:42:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> This isn't an argument, but alright then.
[05:47:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> ok I'll argue over semantics lol, discussing opposing views is arguing, not necessarily hostile though
[05:47:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> i have a feeling someone's gonna blast me with a dictionary though
[05:54:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/2] I think most social media should follow the long term nuclear waste protocol:
[05:54:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/2] ```This place is not a place of honor... no highly esteemed deed is commemorated here... nothing valued is here.```
[05:54:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_nuclear_waste_warning_messages
[05:56:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> now how do we have that warning transcend written language
[05:57:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> My proudest moment as a tabletop game GM was writing a version of this into the campaign... and one of the players recognized and called it out as what it was.
[06:27:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> [1/2] For some reason, this reminded me of how we're going to leave warnings for our nuclear waste for future civilisations when either we eventually fall or leave the planet behind.
[06:27:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> [2/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long-term_nuclear_waste_warning_messages
[06:28:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> [1/2] This is my favourite desig.
[06:28:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1393841491654217728/nuclearwastedesignspikesvertical_final-684x1024.jpg?ex=6874a38b&is=6873520b&hm=a360861052507d0fec180f68a0917340958d8743781614340600aba7b621727b&
[07:24:51] <BlankEclair>	 https://qnews.com.au/uk-soccer-makes-trans-men-say-they-are-biological-females/
[07:24:53] <BlankEclair>	 excuse me what the fuck
[08:08:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to aeywoo> see also: https://hachyderm.io/@Impossible_PhD/111745874982485720
[08:59:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> that's a fair argument to me
[08:59:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> it's the same as the youtube problem
[09:00:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raidarr> there should be an ethical fallback but if you can't signal boost it through one of the evil silos then it as good as doesn't exist
[13:40:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham, replying to aeywoo> This is (partly) what my thing in the game was based on. 😄
[13:44:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/3] The line I have in my notes is:
[13:44:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/3] ```As you descend the scarp into the rift valley below, the strange deformations you saw from above come into focus as jagged spires of stone, set at unnatural and unnerving angles.
[13:44:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [3/3] Reaching the base of the slope, a pressure builds at the back of your head as if a silent wind is rushing past you```
[13:53:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to notaracham> [1/2] > pressure builds at the back of your head
[13:53:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to notaracham> [2/2] :ohnozeger:
[13:53:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> :ohno
[14:02:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to aeywoo> :clam_stare:
[14:04:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to pixldev> :emoji_9:
[14:10:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> ☢️
[14:17:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [1/2] The setting was low-tech/magical with some higher technology ruins, so plenty to play with there.  
[14:17:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> [2/2] IIRC the first line "GTFO" defense that pressure line referenced was a low-grade wall of force pulsing out uniformly from the entrance, powered by the decay heat of the slowly depleting arcane/radioactive refuse stored below.
[14:17:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <notaracham> Not enough to actually do harm, but enough to be unpleasant and subtly encourage going any direction but towards the center.
[14:41:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [1/6] # wikipedia html
[14:41:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [2/6] ## last updated Jan 14 2001
[14:41:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [3/6] ```html
[14:41:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [4/6] <head>/head
[14:41:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [5/6] <body>/body
[14:41:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> [6/6] ```
[15:13:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo, replying to whentheh_> what
[16:25:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to whentheh_> needs more confusing parser functions
[16:25:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> and modules
[16:25:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> though I suppose it’s not really html then is it
[16:25:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> more PHP/wikitext
[16:26:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to raidarr> yeah
[16:27:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> I feel like the action that should be taken is “try your best to foster these alternative platforms and move away from big corpo stuff where you can, and use the places where you can’t as a signal booster for the good places”
[16:28:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> moreso “join mastodon, try it out, get your friends and your circle to as well and you’ll hopefully end up liking it and moving away from other stuff naturally” than “abandon all other socials for mastodon” for instance
[16:30:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> that’s just my opinion though
[18:34:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Started messing around with a https://gettocketbook.com I had laying around
[18:34:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Got some new pens that work now
[18:35:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> I like it
[18:35:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> They erase really nicely
[20:06:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> @rhinosf1 yubico auth keeps killing itself
[20:09:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> How do
[20:10:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> smt smt segmentation fault core dumped
[20:10:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> oh its different now
[20:10:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> still not work
[20:10:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> tf
[20:11:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> What are you trying to do @pixldev
[20:11:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> nope seg fault again
[20:11:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> run the app
[20:11:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Has it updated?
[20:11:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1394048604435648512/image.png?ex=6875646f&is=687412ef&hm=55fa962a11fc76fc1b97cfa19f9ddcd67acd5940eda25bf8a85594d43a4d4ccb&
[20:11:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Do things work ok on another device?
[20:11:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> idk this is linux nothing works
[20:11:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> good idea
[20:14:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> free installed the new version
[20:14:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> killed itself again
[20:14:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> maybe update system
[20:16:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Maybe
[20:17:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Is the key plugged in @pixldev ?
[20:17:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to pixldev> Maybe use the [flatpak version](https://flathub.org/apps/com.yubico.yubioath)?
[20:18:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> Flatpaks are much less likely to be broken by system updates.
[20:18:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> The app shouldn’t care
[20:18:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to posix_memalign> True
[20:18:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> Try without
[20:18:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Did I think
[20:19:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> If you can give me a good bug report, I'll ask the program team
[20:19:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Im restarting my system rn with updates anyway
[20:19:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> Will see
[20:19:43] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Key serial number, key firmware, OS versions and any versions of the app & dependancies
[20:19:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Paste the error too
[20:26:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [1/2] Interesting. Somehow I'm able to launch the application on my machine (also Fedora KDE).
[20:26:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1394052486842683442/image.png?ex=6875680d&is=6874168d&hm=9b4560564f8fccc7600eb49299f954466f662132bcb4584301fc3928378cc684&
[20:29:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> Computers are Magic
[20:38:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to posix_memalign> It usually works, hence my confusion
[20:38:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> But I hadn’t tried for like 2 weeks
[20:54:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [1/11] key not plugged in is the same ```pixldev@fedora:~/Desktop/yubico-authenticator-7.2.3-linux$ ./authenticator 
[20:54:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [2/11] Gdk-Message: 16:53:33.547: Unable to load  from the cursor theme
[20:54:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [3/11] 16:53:33.615 [desktop.init] INFO: Logging initialized, outputting to stderr
[20:54:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [4/11] 16:53:33.619 [desktop.init] INFO: Window hidden on startup: false
[20:54:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [5/11] 16:53:33.620 [desktop.init] INFO: Starting Helper subprocess: /home/pixldev/Desktop/yubico-authenticator-7.2.3-linux/helper/authenticator-helper
[20:54:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [6/11] 16:53:33.630 [desktop.init] INFO: Helper process started
[20:54:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [7/11] 16:53:33.632 [main] INFO: Running Yubico Authenticator...
[20:54:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [8/11] {app_version: 7.2.3, dart: 3.8.1 (stable) (Wed May 28 00:47:25 2025 -0700) on "linux_x64", os: linux, os_version: Linux 6.15.5-200.fc42.x86_64 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sun Jul  6 09:16:17 UTC 2025}
[20:54:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [9/11] (com.yubico.yubioath:3880): Gdk-CRITICAL : 16:53:33.798: ../gdk/wayland/gdkdisplay-wayland.c:1452: Unable to create Cairo image surface: invalid value (typically too big) for the size of the input (surface, pattern, etc.)
[20:54:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [10/11] Segmentation fault (core dumped)
[20:54:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> [11/11] ```
[20:54:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> app version is included
[20:54:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> depends i have no idea given this is a website downloaded bin
[20:55:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> Send it via email
[20:55:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> So I can just forward it on
[20:55:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> to you?
[20:55:16] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Yes
[20:56:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> this and device inf?
[20:56:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to pixldev> Yup
[20:58:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to rhinosf1> sent
[21:00:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to posix_memalign> i think my deletion of my previous bin download confused fp
[21:00:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> since i deleted 7.2.0 and put 7.2.3 on
[21:00:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> just added the flatpak one and it complains `Failed to start 'Yubico Authenticator': Could not find the program '/home/pixldev/Desktop/yubico-authenticator-7.2.0-linux/authenticator'`
[21:03:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Forwarded
[21:03:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign, replying to pixldev> Hmmm. Persisting a hard-coded path to the executable's location doesn't sound like a good idea...
[21:04:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev, replying to posix_memalign> :thumbsup: