[03:49:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [1/21] ```
[03:49:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [2/21] > dig publictestwiki.com
[03:49:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [3/21] ; <<>> DiG 9.20.10 <<>> publictestwiki.com
[03:49:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [4/21] ;; global options: +cmd
[03:49:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [5/21] ;; Got answer:
[03:49:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [6/21] ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 61520
[03:49:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [7/21] ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 3, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
[03:49:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [8/21] ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
[03:49:51] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [9/21] ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 1232
[03:49:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [10/21] ;; QUESTION SECTION:
[03:49:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [11/21] ;publictestwiki.com.            IN      A
[03:49:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [12/21] ;; ANSWER SECTION:
[03:49:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [13/21] publictestwiki.com.     60      IN      CNAME   mw-lb.miraheze.org.
[03:49:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [14/21] mw-lb.miraheze.org.     300     IN      A       104.18.6.190
[03:49:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [15/21] mw-lb.miraheze.org.     300     IN      A       104.18.7.190
[03:49:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [16/21] ;; Query time: 80 msec
[03:49:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [17/21] ;; SERVER: ::1#53(::1) (UDP)
[03:49:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [18/21] ;; WHEN: Tue Jul 15 13:49:24 AEST 2025
[03:49:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [19/21] ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 111
[03:49:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [20/21] ```
[03:49:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> [21/21] what
[03:50:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952616351644672042/984060135544614952/image0-33.gif
[03:51:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> CNAME on apex
[03:51:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> how
[03:52:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> minor amount of... idk even,,,, wtf
[05:42:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jamesfrederick50> [1/2] I'll help the first 10 people interested on how to  start earning $100k or more within a week, but you will reimburse me 10% of your profits when you receive it. Note: only interested people should send a friend request or send me a dm! ask me (HOW) via Telegram username @Official_James01
[05:42:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <jamesfrederick50> [2/2] Or The telegram link in my bio
[05:43:18] <MirahezeRelay>	 <posix_memalign> ^ @Discord Moderators
[05:43:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <cosmicalpha> dealt with
[06:25:17] <BlankEclair>	 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4Xsr3Jrvaw
[13:14:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> [1/2] this looked nicer
[13:14:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bartomelow, replying to bartomelow> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1394668426664083486/image.png?ex=6877a5b0&is=68765430&hm=db4f526ee56b45b7c9b2309f4fe5f5064693cf6aa42f7bb2e412f4c5150b94d2&
[14:02:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <justleafy2003> Fnaf wiki fork when
[15:06:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <whentheh_> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1394696705730937063/Jbgt1EZ.png?ex=6877c006&is=68766e86&hm=95f433861e5486728e97fb8e691239af485bbf1e5790eaef071a2e8baea9e43a&
[17:07:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> This is fuckin stoopid https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Domain_events
[17:19:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> what's so bad abt it
[17:21:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> The name is weirdly scary sounding. Sounds like the thing in a fantasy story that calls about the end of the world.
[17:23:33] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> LOL
[17:27:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> On original look, it seemed to very much be reproducing the hook functionality. I’ve done a bit more research and had a look at some examples and can see why it was done though
[17:48:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <aeywoo> Still no response from WMF, my want to call as many ministers as I want is getting uncontrollable.
[18:32:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realcastle, replying to amelialoveheart> it sounds like Domain Expansion
[18:33:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <realcastle, replying to originalauthority> like that was my first thought when glancing over the title
[19:57:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1, replying to aeywoo> Anyone who has an uncontrollable want to talk to a minister is weird
[19:58:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <rhinosf1> Ministers are painful to deal with
[20:56:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to originalauthority> so uh, it's like hooks, but after database writes?
[20:59:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology, replying to blankeclair> and less boilerplate
[20:59:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> is what i'm getting
[21:00:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair, replying to pskyechology> seems to be the same?
[21:01:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Yeah kinda
[21:01:40] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Hooks are synchronus
[21:01:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> So the hook happens within the web request
[21:02:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> From what i gather the event is sent before mediawiki rests in peace after all the writes have been done and the response has been returned to the user
[21:02:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> oh
[21:03:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> so like... hooks but deferred updates?
[21:05:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Yeah but
[21:06:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> DeferredUpdates have an issue in that if the database write was rolledback, the deferred update is still ran
[21:06:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> This apparently solves that
[21:06:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Seems like they implemented something new instead of just fixing the existing
[21:06:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Now its just confusing as fuck which one to use
[21:06:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> fix existing stuff? we don't believe in that
[21:07:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> we will make a completely new thing and possibly deprecate the old one
[21:07:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> no way they're gonna deprecate hooks
[21:07:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> right?
[21:07:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> nah idt so
[21:07:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> No, hooks are still required because with an event you cant modify the response
[21:07:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> In hooks you can
[21:08:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> You can only observe that an event happened and react accordingly, but by the time the event is dispatched the write has already happened so its too late to modify it
[21:08:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> wait until they make hooks 2
[21:08:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> Theres no vision in mediawiki
[21:08:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> They just keep doing random shit
[21:08:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> No wonder fandom forked 1.19 heavily
[21:08:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority, replying to pskyechology> Hooks 1.1.0 SEMVER
[21:09:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> LMAO TRUE
[21:09:22] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> LOL