[01:06:44] [1/2] Outcome Memories thing. [01:06:44] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1406444101640917054/image.png?ex=68a27ca4&is=68a12b24&hm=543383d36de3d5c95c84d70b935a49d04191af3a09d7f869b4d4fae237bc7ca9& [01:37:08] huh i was just thinking of Mighty the Armadillo today [02:22:35] [1/2] For context... [02:22:35] [2/2] https://fxtwitter.com/Kaua161/status/1951658663988396189 [02:41:52] https://vxtwitter.com/SnowTheFox122/status/1956685651748835767 [07:55:50] mfw i napped 3.5h until nearly 6 pm [07:56:04] body woke up because it's hungry for estrogen /j [08:02:56] girl has been planted [08:07:35] https://tenor.com/view/wikipedia-wiki-spin-wikispin-wikipediaspin-gif-16745606004972556052 [08:46:21] https://vxtwitter.com/atari/status/1956374463798263858 [10:44:35] Phpstorm my beloved [10:44:37] Miss u [14:27:42] im on my white girl arc [14:27:46] i got boba [20:38:52] [1/2] I have slightly modded MW Codesearch... (I added a plaintext search button, an export functionality so I can track search results in github issues, also links to mediawiki.org are automatically added to repo titles for extensions and skins where possible) [20:38:52] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1406739077029433557/image.png?ex=68a38f5b&is=68a23ddb&hm=ddfee91fdd70d5fd6b6cde9807384cba2499498bf0e57f05b6b6fa6f8d87b00d& [20:39:33] also published the scripts at (the code is terrible and it depends a lot on classes and IDs that could break any second lol) [20:54:50] You talked to anyone working on the next version of code search? [20:55:49] I've seen the task, but I haven't [20:56:10] I don't think it's realistic to add the features I added, except for plainsearch [20:56:17] and I've already created a task for plainsearch in december [20:58:13] Export sounds useful [20:58:28] They both sound useful tbh [21:12:04] Writing Go after writing PHP is do refreshing [21:12:36] I think they need to clean up the interface a bit fir the next version [21:12:56] Also I wish whenever I clicked a link on there it didnt open fuckin gerrit [21:13:07] (I know thats a minor problem I can probably fix with JS but meh) [21:19:29] I think it is changing [21:19:38] I've not seeing it yet [21:19:44] It's collab services building it [21:20:32] I think I've read somewhere that they're considering using instead of Hound [21:21:06] oh, is it not custom built stuff? [21:21:29] oh its fucking AI [21:21:30] fook off [21:21:56] [1/2] There is something like this already in vanilla codesearch, but it produces phabricator syntax, which doesn't work in Github or anywhere else [21:21:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1406749916096626859/image.png?ex=68a39974&is=68a247f4&hm=8ff96732951e30112ff8ab6af7cd30ecc8594f4641c8d12945c80649320c268c& [21:22:36] at least they're planning to keep the old one for now [21:32:49] whyyyyyy [22:06:46] wh [22:06:54] mx, this is a wendy's [22:11:33] wait, what's the gender neutral term for sir/ma'am? [22:11:37] oh wait [22:11:42] mate, this is a wendy's [22:13:54] AMAW [22:13:59] assigned mate at wendy's [22:16:32] i've just done this https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T268199#11092580 [22:16:41] hopefully they listen [22:16:43] Does anyone else notice that MediaWiki is very inconsistent with setting the `Content-Disposition` on images? [22:17:52] [1/3] every mediawiki problem falls into two buckets: [22:17:52] [2/3] - CentralAuth [22:17:52] [3/3] - PHP [22:17:57] i'm gonna guess this is door #2 [22:18:42] if you have a wikipedia/wikimedia account i think you can sign into their phab with it [22:18:51] if anyone else also wants to add something [22:21:27] have you loaded a wikimedia wiki recently, the network tab is horrible [22:21:36] about 40 million requests to centralauth [22:21:47] I don’t considering new ways to use AI to make the community more productive is bad. I would support doing due diligence to give fair consideration to this new tool, but would oppose dropping code search [22:21:54] on every single wiki that you're attached to lmao [22:22:43] i think dropping codesearch is absolutely bad [22:22:51] we don't need to cram AI into it though [22:23:37] this article's quite nice if you want a little read as to why: https://aworkinglibrary.com/writing/toolmen [22:24:00] might i also suggest the AI-focused journalism of the wonderful Ed Zitron: https://wheresyoured.at [22:24:19] There’s a difference between giving fair consideration to a tool that sues AI and cramming AI in Willy nilly [22:24:33] fair [22:24:51] by AI i mean the generative variety [22:25:22] code search that uses machine learning to return code that might be more relevant to what you're looking for is great [22:25:35] GitLab tried that [22:25:40] and it suddenly went away? idk why [22:25:48] well, was it good? [22:25:52] no [22:25:56] it was fucking horrible bad [22:26:02] well that's why probably [22:26:12] but i digress [22:26:13] like it was worse than mediawiki search and thats saying something [22:26:33] my point here is: the cons of genAI in most all situations outweigh the pros [22:26:35] To plays devil advocate, I do use copilot, and without it i probably would not have gotten nearly as much work done on the project I’m working on [22:26:40] I wish Codesearch had the github feature where you can click a function or something and it would bring up all implementations of that function [22:26:51] Mhm [22:27:16] fair enough, but that's [usually not the case](https://fortune.com/2025/07/20/ai-hampers-productivity-software-developers-productivity-study/) [22:28:04] I actually had to disable copilot in vscode because when I clicked tab to insert a new indentation it would insert its bogus fucking suggestions [22:28:15] Consider, I am a high school student with increasing limited time, and 7 things taking up that time [22:28:53] If I know how I want to build something, I’m not above being pragmatic and describing it in detail and asking it to make it [22:30:13] RIP high school studies 💀 [22:32:45] You’re British. You don’t have to go through the hell that college admissions in the states [22:34:52] I was pondering the things I have to do going forward, and more than a small part of me wanted to shrivel up and ide [22:35:20] Not at the point of breaking down sobbing currently, but I don’t entirely rule it out as a possibility [22:41:58] https://www.euronews.com/green/2025/08/14/norway-sweden-and-finland-climate-change-made-july-heatwave-10-times-more-likely-study-say [22:41:59] woo [23:07:45] crying rn [23:11:36] Are universities still charging exorbitant fees to apply for the right to pay them exorbitant per-year and per-quarter rates? [23:12:09] (that's one thing in our hellish higher-education process I wish had been addressed under saner administrations) [23:12:19] lets see [23:13:28] For the big shot private tech college her in the state, 75$ application fee [23:13:30] Most around me are thankfully $100 USD or less and have hardship opt-outs, which, not cheap, but within reasonable levels [23:13:32] would be worse [23:13:36] Oh, 100%. [23:13:45] I've seen some bonkers ones that are like, $250 plus [23:13:46] To apply [23:13:50] Plus if you need them, fee waivers [23:14:03] I could go to college in Germany for that amount a semester [23:16:45] what the fuck?? you gotta pay to apply as well??? as if they aren't already milking everyone dry??? [23:18:42] Yup! [23:18:51] Yeah, looks like all of the public ones are now only $70, and the premier public is $80, private is all over the place from 60-180, but not as ridiculous as it used to be. [23:20:04] idk about y'all but i'd be making pipebombs [23:20:14] Turns out rampant privatization and letting loose the capitalist impulse, uh... leads to some pretty bad outcomes [23:20:45] Pick your topic in the US and the sentiment generally holds [23:21:04] capitalists figure out how to print money out of thin air! ask for money and provide a "service" (actually nothing at all!) [23:21:26] Don't even get me started on privately-operated public toll roads [23:21:33] THE FUCK????????????? [23:21:38] Yeah... [23:21:55] forget pipe bombs, i'm going straight to dirty bombs [23:22:41] ok i lied i can't go straight (this is a queer joke) [23:23:32] im so pissed im gonna get up and go to sleep [23:23:40] cant believe y'all have to live there [23:23:51] A wise choice. [23:26:21] There is much good to be had here, but also an endless well of not-so-good to rage against until your marrow goes sour with the frustration. [23:27:31] Measured work, in the time we have, to change what we can for the better is the only path to remain sane in unserious and dangerous times. [23:28:23] -Me, still working off a fever and thinking about US oligarchic rule [23:29:59] imagine if 1984 took place in america chat [23:30:13] isn't it already [23:32:16] We've got folks planning to cook the books and troops in the streets of America for no, particularly good reason, we're certainly well on our way [23:33:28] could've at least picked someone more charming than an orange cheeto but I can certainly see how that would be appetizing [23:33:39] America is hungry, what can I say? [23:33:57] And you know what folks say about shopping hungry [23:34:51] oh right, food isn't a human right in america [23:35:15] [[w:Right to food]] [23:35:15] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_to_food [23:35:16]

[23:35:40] it's all starting to make sense now [23:35:42] You're not you when you're hungry [23:36:44] due to shrinkflation, best i can do is a mars bar [23:36:59] I am, most definitely, Not. [23:48:40] I can't quite figure out if a specific country is red or grey here [23:49:34] Which one? [23:50:03] Israel (I was going to comment that it would be really ironic if there was a right to food, but I googled it and it appears they do not) [23:50:16] _but I do not want to spark a political debate about that, just an observation- [23:51:55] Yep, not to mention "right in name" and "right in practice", regardless of whatever right you're examining, is an unfortunately common delta around the globe. 🙁