[00:31:30] someone: compliments me on my skin [00:31:32] me: hehe [00:40:30] oh look, the effects of AI [00:40:46] (what are you replying to?) [00:40:55] that climate change article [00:41:15] ah, i can do worse [00:41:30] https://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/meta-ai-chatbot-death/ [00:41:32] Please don't [00:41:38] Oh for- [00:42:04] so yeah [00:42:11] "ai is the future" my ass [00:42:24] i'm still very surprised that people don't think of LLMs as giant probability machine [00:43:27] because they don't think of them as LLMs [00:43:41] there's this other acronym that's only half right [00:44:05] they really don't know any non-generative AIs? [00:44:07] "I'm your giant probability machine assistant - how may I help you today?" [00:46:45] like they'd know the difference [00:47:00] i want to have faith in humanity pls [00:47:04] it's been shoved down everyone's throats as AI, so it is AI [00:48:01] idk im gonna hug my blåhaj and fall asleep smiling :3 [00:48:29] ah fair [00:48:32] and yay :D [00:49:21] As an artifical limitation is a contrived prohibition, so is artificial intelligence contrived knowledge [00:49:42] But most people don't know that, which means trillions of dollars being paid to AI companies [01:21:52] https://www.science.org/content/article/sex-reversal-surprisingly-common-birds-new-study-suggests [01:21:54] huh :3 [01:41:21] https://issue-tracker.miraheze.org/T14135 [01:41:22] http://fileformats.archiveteam.org/wiki/WBMP [01:41:24] oh my god [03:55:38] [1/2] fascinating [03:55:39] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1406848994960867428/image.png?ex=68a3f5ba&is=68a2a43a&hm=29a0073143dc25f7646031c0bce0f18745451ad2674e01fd5add4ae4eceffe9d& [03:56:37] well, looks like you did not know :) [03:57:47] I did not [03:58:16] know that there is a Madoka Magica X Dangonronpa gamem coming to switch [04:14:26] I did not that you're into visual novels lol [04:14:49] I'm not really haha [04:15:00] It's on the DYK [04:15:32] I played DDLC, think thats the only VN i actually played [04:15:38] and i still had to drop after [04:15:41] erm [04:15:49] mid game [spoiler free] [04:16:03] depite knowing full well what happens and seeing it on video [04:17:05] Ah I see. I played a few visual novels, though they would be inappropriate to discuss on a SFW server. [04:17:29] Fair [04:18:01] Not NSFW in the traditional sense(maybe in a more literal sense), I also must admit Class of 09 to be a guilty pleasure, that shit is extremely fucked up but extremely funny \ [04:23:07] This game looks very interesting. Wishlisted. [04:23:43] Never played myself, have seen playthroughs [06:13:19] Unrelated but semi related: There is a short story, novel or whole book to be written at some point about the western perception of "the end of history." [09:18:52] https://localmess.github.io this is truly scummy behaviour from Meta and Yandex, but not really a surprise [09:21:27] yeah but honestly not surprised [09:22:39] i always delete fb apps and yandex preinstalls from my phones, but instagram and whatsapp have to stay [09:23:16] the only yandex app i used was taxi [09:57:08] `📢 UPDATE: As of June 3rd 7:45 CEST, Meta/Facebook Pixel script is no longer sending any packets or requests to localhost. The code responsible for sending the _fbp cookie has been almost completely removed. Yandex has also stopped the practice we describe below.` [10:01:26] Yes, I read the article. [10:02:03] Hi [10:22:32] https://fxtwitter.com/Retromania4ever/status/1957052975785885780 [10:22:43] That is skills 😄 [11:14:58] [1/3] How SMW testing went: [11:14:58] [2/3] 1. Spend a few minutes creating a bunch of test pages written by an LLM. [11:14:59] [3/3] 2. Being dissatisfied with the content of these pages, spend half an hour to rewrite them with anime references. [11:36:35] based [14:17:10] Game is wild but also weirdly nostalgic lol [14:17:24] wild i [14:17:29] a word [15:54:50] had to start working S3(actually CF R2) for a hobby project, been pretty nice to set up [15:54:58] (i didnt write the code for it though) [15:55:48] [1/3] https://www.shoutwiki.com/wiki/Forum:Set_config_variable_es6_to_true [15:55:48] [2/3] > I'm not going to rifle around in core to hack it, potentially breaking plenty of other people's JavaScript across the entirety of ShoutWiki. [15:55:48] [3/3] Don't break it for the 5 people using shoutwiki! [16:02:34] why are there so many irish russian and germans visiting pix-l.dev [16:02:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1407032003534258296/image.png?ex=68a4a02b&is=68a34eab&hm=aeaaa04df5e31d0a4bf4eb002cfc9bbf780e5b7c9cdc0efd4ebfe595710542f2& [16:14:02] [1/3] Meanwhile, Fandom back at it with AI-translated slop [16:14:02] [2/3] https://community.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Fandom/Internationalization_Experiment:_Latest_Updates [16:14:03] [3/3] Of course they don't listen [16:15:10] how's comment section over there lol [16:16:57] [1/2] I have a script that Gemini wrote, that seems to workk, that is crawling the Orion's Arm website rn and has been on and off for over 24 hours now [16:16:58] [2/2] So, seems with work Gemini and ChatGPT do generate working code [16:22:00] All negative ofc [16:22:15] Just like the first and second blogs about this experiment [16:37:38] At least the post sounds written by humans [16:41:35] oh, they do listen, believe me [16:42:11] it's just that at a company the first thing that matters is that the line goes up, and, as explained on the post, some lines did go up for them regarding SEO [16:42:58] everything else, even hosting wikis, goes secondary to profits at a for-profit company [16:44:53] of course, this isn't a Fandom-exclusive thing, all companies do this, and the bigger they are, the more profits are the goal over even their supposed main activity [16:46:15] Also, for my wiki, I may end up doing what some sites like Fursuit review and I think Artists Beware does and sell ads to individuals/small groups for a fixed price a month [16:53:32] Insanely negative, and it led to a lot of wikis moving off the network. It also led to over 1,000+ signatures being signed as well. [16:59:56] :sippy: [17:00:13] Part of me is pleased when this happens [17:00:17] pls give links [17:00:34] or screenshots, I can't even see the comments on that post cus I don't have a Fandom account [17:00:40] But at the same time, I feel bad for those who can't move [17:00:41] https://tenor.com/view/sad-hamster-sadhamster-hammy-hampter-popcat-gif-4792296869322301536 [17:01:30] i dont see comments [17:02:47] [1/5] Wikis that moved, from what I've known: [17:02:48] [2/5] * Skibidi Toilet Wiki (moved to Miraheze) [17:02:48] [3/5] * Average Plate Game Wiki (ditto) [17:02:48] [4/5] * My fanon wiki, the My Life as a Teenage Rabbot Wiki (still getting things set up) [17:02:49] [5/5] * SiIvagunner Wiki (went independent) [17:05:44] I wonder if we could check requests for how many wikis are moving from fandom to use [17:06:13] That's a good question, honestly. [17:06:30] network effect is very fun [17:06:53] Taerel wiki was on Fandom when it was Wikia and not so awfuk [17:07:34] Also, I think some of the reception wikis started on Fandom [17:07:49] The Tardis Wiki? I actually didn't know they went independent until Indie Wiki Buddy redirected me. [17:07:59] Taerel wiki is mine [17:08:31] Oh, also Conworlds Wiki [17:08:46] Oh, duh! I misread you. 😭 [17:09:15] we prob could [17:09:36] I used Fandom when was oka [17:10:17] I've used it before the UCP update, but after that, it was a slow decline from there. [17:10:49] I agree as well [17:17:24] FANDOM got me into wikis [17:18:06] Same! Especially wiki editing and knowing everything there is to it, even CSS. 🌠 [17:18:30] My Little Pony: The Game wiki also went independent! [17:19:02] Me as well [17:19:20] I only learned CSS once I got onto Mirahezew [17:20:01] I have been to more in person wiki meetups than I can count. I have met Wikimedia admins, developers and employees. I have given a lightning talk at a Wikipedia day event [17:20:02] fandom stopped me from getting into wikis [17:20:03] I still cower in fear at CSS [17:20:51] I've been doing the same as well by reworking on my CSS. [17:21:14] Nice! In-person wiki meetups are on my bucket list. [17:21:40] If you live in the NYC metro area, we have an awesome group in the city 😄 [17:21:42] CSS -> editing with insepect element until it works, ask ChatGPT if it does not and I cannot fix myself [17:21:46] Part of me always wonders what would happen if the MLP fandom wiki went independent when theirs and ours approach to covering the franchise is almost polar opposite. [17:27:54] [1/2] Fandom's parent company, TPG, recently bought Daybreak AI, an "AI first" company. [17:27:55] [2/2] tpg.com/news-and-insights/supply-chain-planning-enters-the-ai-agent-era-daybreak-raises-15m-round-to-lead-the-shift [17:28:12] So we should expect Fandom to keep pushing AI. [17:28:40] awesome sauce [17:28:50] oh hi kirby [17:28:54] Hi [18:25:55] Oh lord [18:40:03] [1/2] I think this is the deepest ive ever had bullet point lists go (also good lord the red links are making me feel dread) [18:40:03] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1407071563240702003/image.png?ex=68a4c502&is=68a37382&hm=3ec061d87f348cea40886adc0feb1961f6620a4831c70188ceec380bd0cefc01& [19:00:22] Seeing this many red links is giving me PTSD. [19:02:39] It is actually kind of stressful sometimes lol [19:04:40] this is why my nascent wiki just [19:04:42] bans redlinks [19:04:51] ez [19:05:21] [1/2] to quote a crat from long ago: [19:05:22] [2/2] > I do declare the colour red as evil. I want it purged from the wiki. [19:07:11] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1407078392301486101/v12044gd0000d1g5387og65n3gshvi30.mov?ex=68a4cb5e&is=68a379de&hm=3f22d0dbc0c19e0664adb3c324cde5bf3715d0f0af23665307cad4d85d9d5ce1& [19:07:25] My experiences with those sort of policies is they tend to create more ambiguity about what is and isn't allowed a page. Red links are ugly, but useful, and also keeps you from having to search the subject every time you create a new article. [19:10:20] in a normal wiki yes [19:10:28] StoneworksMC is not a normal wiki [19:10:29] oh is it a world-building/RP wiki? [19:10:34] oh gotcha [19:10:44] minecraft server [19:10:55] world building RP minecraft server [19:10:58] DC Database wiki does it and it drives be bonkers. [19:11:08] so each groups jsut work on their own topics or characters usually [19:13:11] makes sense. [19:52:08] SiIvaGunner Wiki was pushed because of the AI translation thing? I thought they were just dissatisfied in general [19:53:39] Also, there is 862 signatures against that thing, not 1000+ [19:54:07] Not that we should've ever expected that to change anything [20:03:04] Pandora's Tale Wiki moved because of Fandom's previous AI thing: "Quick Answers." [20:03:18] That was now two years ago. [20:07:43] Bo way [20:07:52] Was it really [20:37:57] Needs Gemini's safity guidelines [21:06:44] What's the new ai feature [21:09:21] I know Ahrefs isn’t terribly accurate but these being the top keywords for miraheze 😭 [21:09:24] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1407109149363408896/IMG_7732.png?ex=68a4e804&is=68a39684&hm=c0c1644b17f43c8b83fc3e2e216e89da669868efcec6b66efb02c228722fc421& [21:09:50] Is Miraheze brainrot? 💀 [21:11:12] https://italianbrainrot.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Page [21:11:48] Cappucino assassino is my favourite [21:15:26] [1/2] I mean it isn't wrong [21:15:26] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1407110668603101375/image.png?ex=68a4e96e&is=68a397ee&hm=109d0ae2d0cc73dde1788acd5af84042299c6df1abfc4fa6aa59e32a99d152f1& [21:19:54] not even checking the wiki smh [21:50:59] God I was going down the brainrot rabbit hole this morning [22:31:12] I thought all these wikis were kicked off Mh? https://discord.com/channels/407504499280707585/443926951292567562/1406698778760581260 [22:32:24] only the anarchy/ideology one [22:33:03] anyarchy [22:39:04] the polcompball strain in particular has been nixed [22:39:26] polandball still has legacy support similar to reception wikis and new approvals in fact are not impossible though quite unlikely [22:40:05] yay [22:49:33] they finally made manage messages and ping messages separate rights on discord [22:49:36] took them long enough [23:02:23] [1/2] spent about 6 hours of my life today rewriting my mwutil CLI tool in python (it was in bash before) [23:02:24] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1407137584043266158/image.png?ex=68a5027f&is=68a3b0ff&hm=c2502f7abe92c480902c858c8fde3ec2c3ace047af900f0075be3e2a206ab644& [23:02:25] https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1144716926854119594.webp?size=48 [23:03:32] [1/2] autocompletion for maintenance scripts should be added to mwscript too tbh [23:03:32] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1407137872049340526/image.png?ex=68a502c4&is=68a3b144&hm=2aa52966b38a068fb954ed94a9eccfff8e52b52918a5ee32a9c452c297db3d84& [23:03:50] please [23:03:57] Your first mistake was python [23:04:08] at least it's not javascript [23:04:09] Jk [23:04:32] it was bash before [23:04:33] This is where Go shines [23:04:42] i've considered rewriting it in php instead [23:04:50] Oh lord [23:05:03] Why not in assembly [23:05:07] 😛 [23:05:23] I wonder if you could theoretically write a cli script in assembly? [23:09:46] [1/3] it's way more readable this way (before vs after), the only disadvantage is that it's harder to execute shell commands like e.g. git in this case [23:09:46] [2/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1407139438986924196/image.png?ex=68a50439&is=68a3b2b9&hm=e184a04f3b4373c544a2f925fbea8209d256d474f1cdb590d2e8841349e79e3c& [23:09:46] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1407139439351955497/image.png?ex=68a50439&is=68a3b2b9&hm=a51feb49ef515e2b526c2f52a0195bb5c41034bf1842bf7e52cedb736ae9925a& [23:10:01] lmao [23:10:13] I assume you can write everything in assembly [23:18:01] I dunno, neither of these are readable to me [23:18:19] I can't cope with languages that don't use braces to signal func start/end [23:20:38] Go is surprisingly popular for cli tools. The newer ones are almost exclusively written in go or rust. [23:21:00] Yeah, I love Go [23:21:24] it being compiled is a bit annoying but its a worthwile trade off [23:21:40] I've never used Go tbh [23:22:09] The languages I've used in the past for CLI stuff like this are python, bash, TS, Java, Kotlin, PHP and rust (once) [23:23:12] I think that's a strength when it comes to cli tools. Having a single binary with no dependencies is really nice since it is distro-agnostic. With that said, python+uv is pretty good as well and avoids most of the pain of setting up a python environment. [23:33:10] oh for sure [23:33:12] I'm just biased [23:39:11] > [19/08/2025 09:18] I can't cope with languages that don't use braces to signal func start/end [23:39:19]