[03:50:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to snowfleaf> i always get SO THROWN by this being a masto embed
[03:51:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> it fucks me up every time without fail
[03:51:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> i see that color and immediately go to copy the URL so i can paste it into my instance
[03:51:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> EVERY TIME
[08:33:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> @blankeclair ok i need your opinion on something
[08:33:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> snaccing but oki
[08:33:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> i was watching this video https://youtube.com/watch?v=3E8l27b7ynA
[08:33:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> and then i started watching this video, from the same person
[08:33:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> https://inv.nadeko.net/watch?v=9FMQlj1Js4A
[08:34:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> and it might just be me but are they voice training?
[08:34:39] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i have never voice trained lmeow
[08:34:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> like it feels like there's a big difference
[08:34:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> between the two vids
[08:35:02] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> (which are 2 years apart btw)
[08:35:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> okay there's a difference
[08:36:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> i'd say that the voice is androgynous
[08:53:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765, replying to blankeclair> fair enough
[08:53:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <groupnebula563_0765> @pskyechology you got anything to say?
[10:15:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> [1/2] @blankeclair noooo...
[10:15:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> [2/2] https://skibidi-toilet.fandom.com/f/p/4400000000000185175
[10:15:37] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> noooooooooooooooooo
[10:35:53] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> @bitbyte10 you should place some of the citizen stuff in common.css to citizen.css
[10:36:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to snowfleaf> Oh, why?
[10:36:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> It's not like we're using any other skins yet
[10:39:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <blankeclair> some others might use other skins
[10:43:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> kind of like standard practice to place skin-specific stuff to its own dedicated page
[10:43:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> just a suggestion though haha
[10:44:03] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to snowfleaf> Well, fair point.
[10:44:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> But I'm too lazy atm
[10:44:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> (me being the only "scripter" doesn't help)
[11:36:25] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to snowfleaf> Ehh just moved the entirety of Common.css to Citizen.css
[11:36:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> ENTIRELY???
[11:36:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> 😨
[11:36:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to snowfleaf> I mean
[11:36:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> It wouldn't break anything right??
[11:36:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> RIGHT???
[11:36:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> :ThinkingHardMH:
[11:37:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Like I'm certain all the code there was done keeping Citizen in mind
[11:37:27] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> some users are able to forcefully use other skins
[11:37:50] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> That's why they are forced to use the default styles as punishment for their heresy
[11:37:56] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> 🙂‍↕️
[11:38:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> literal girlboss
[11:38:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> #unbotheredking
[11:39:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to snowfleaf> The pain of asking ChatGPT to fix something 10 times over
[11:39:13] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> At least I learn more on the way
[11:39:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Like I haven't gotten to the point where I have no clue what ChatGPT is doing thankfully enough
[11:42:05] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> if you need citizen help lmk
[11:42:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> i have some experience
[11:42:24] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to snowfleaf> sir yes sir
[11:42:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> I think we're kinda chilling rn??
[11:42:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Everything is seemingly finished
[11:43:04] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> you gotta add support for pure black mode 😓
[11:43:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> [1/2] Is the colour scheme bad?
[11:43:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1410952939773886556/image.png?ex=68b2e3d3&is=68b19253&hm=c10e2d6247cacba9a7251cbdd38aa63c0bc3cedc5d9a2e0979a0eb0f1c21f64e&
[11:43:17] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to snowfleaf> Oh yeah I broke that
[11:43:21] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> 😔
[11:43:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> maybe swap the sidebar and content background
[11:43:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to snowfleaf> Hmmm
[11:44:01] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> I thought the sidebars are usually darker than the content background?
[11:44:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> `:root.skin-theme-clientpref-night.citizen-feature-pure-black-clientpref-1 {`
[11:44:29] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Oh man do I have to start thinking about a 4TH SKIN???
[11:44:41] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> AAAAA
[11:44:54] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> I'll get to it... eventually...
[11:44:55] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> i mean as long as you use variables you're all good
[11:44:57] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> !
[11:45:09] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> honestly i just slap a backdrop filter on the sidebar
[11:45:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> I should really start using variables
[11:45:23] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to snowfleaf> How do I do that?
[11:45:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> [1/2] also i think the answer you're looking for is var(--color-surface-0)
[11:45:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1410953597704994856/image0.jpg?ex=68b2e46f&is=68b192ef&hm=42a0de616aa6ecd66ba99efd2b2997e0273898826fd4a78cfc8f81d91f9bc9eb&
[11:46:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> change --citizen-body-container-background to --color-surface-0
[11:46:38] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Well wouldn't that turn it back to the default stuff?
[11:46:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [1/16] ```
[11:46:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [2/16] @media screen and (min-width: 1119px) {
[11:46:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [3/16]     .citizen-header { background: transparent!important; }
[11:46:44] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [4/16]     .citizen-header::before { 
[11:46:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [5/16]         position: absolute; 
[11:46:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [6/16]         top: 0; 
[11:46:45] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [7/16]         left: 0; 
[11:46:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [8/16]         content: ''; 
[11:46:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [9/16]          width: 100%; 
[11:46:46] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [10/16]         height: 100%; 
[11:46:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [11/16]         -webkit-backdrop-filter: var(--backdrop-filter-frosted-glass);
[11:46:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [12/16]         backdrop-filter: var(--backdrop-filter-frosted-glass);
[11:46:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [13/16]         z-index: -2;
[11:46:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [14/16]     }
[11:46:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [15/16] }
[11:46:49] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf, replying to bitbyte10> [16/16] ```
[11:46:52] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Or should I just redeclare those old variables to the new values?
[11:47:47] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> --color-surface-X variables are built in vars
[11:47:58] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> you can take a look at [this](https://github.com/StarCitizenTools/mediawiki-skins-Citizen/wiki/Customizing-Citizen-styles) on how to set an accent colour for your wiki
[11:48:14] <MirahezeRelay>	 <snowfleaf> to convert hsl → oklch https://oklch.com
[12:37:11] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Oh I miss the comfort of fandom
[12:44:07] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Can't really blame people for starting out on Fandom, it's just a billion times simpler
[12:49:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> [1/2] I agree - it’s simpler, because they restrict heavily what you can do. ThemeDesigner for example, they can build something like that because they’re only supporting one skin. We support significantly more skins so there isn’t a one stop shop for this kind of thing. 
[12:49:48] <MirahezeRelay>	 <originalauthority> [2/2] If you’re looking for a visual theme editor, Cosmos might be getting one soon when I can be bothered to finish it
[13:03:30] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Ofc it's the skin that looks like Fandom the most
[13:04:36] <MirahezeRelay>	 <ccxtwf> I like adding ever more JS to my wiki like someone who needs to go on the mend
[15:34:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091, replying to bitbyte10> [1/2] They really fool you with that "comfort".
[15:34:26] <MirahezeRelay>	 <max20091, replying to bitbyte10> [2/2] Unless you didn't do reskins, using Fandom is just as hard as any other standard Mediawikis
[15:35:59] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to max20091> It's just very simple to do the very basics
[15:36:08] <MirahezeRelay>	 <narekhakobyan0660> @max20091 @bitbyte10 !!!!
[15:36:12] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> And for a lot of people the "very basics" happen to be more than enough
[15:36:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to narekhakobyan0660> What?
[15:36:28] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> Any problems?
[15:37:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10, replying to narekhakobyan0660> You edited the message to only ping me (even though the other guy still got pinged) and yet you're not telling me the reason you pinged me?
[15:37:42] <MirahezeRelay>	 <bitbyte10> People are weird
[19:39:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <raelmosthetoasterstealer> I have not a single clue what has just been said
[19:45:10] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom> yeah well, it doesn't matter
[19:48:31] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> [1/2] heh, I've never seen such a huge spoiler warning before
[19:48:32] <MirahezeRelay>	 <reception123> [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1411075061342801941/image.png?ex=68b3558f&is=68b2040f&hm=08b8691203a88d19ee724e95eee836eaa39067234763a0aa631b1a64c7458d67&
[19:50:19] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> can't ignore it like that lol
[19:50:20] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart, replying to raelmosthetoasterstealer> someone was pinging them but the messages were deleted.
[19:50:35] <MirahezeRelay>	 <amelialoveheart> After awhile the 'replied to deleted messages' go away so it makes it look like he's talking to himself, lol.
[19:51:34] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pskyechology> discord schizophrenia update
[19:57:15] <MirahezeRelay>	 <theoneandonlylegroom, replying to reception123> some js witchcraft
[21:02:06] <MirahezeRelay>	 <pixldev> https://youtube.com/shorts/JaEsvu-hqRw