[00:51:52] Ah [00:52:22] [1/2] People saying hello to users [00:52:22] [2/2] User: proceeds to act entitled and get mad over something as trivial as a hello [01:06:24] what if we meowed instead [01:11:28] I don’t think that is disrespectful tbh [01:11:50] As it’s not getting mad over it and insulting the person for saying hello [01:12:01] i mean meow instead of saying hello [01:12:04] would they still get mad :3c [01:15:39] Only the ungrateful and extremely disrespectful ones that get mad over trivial stuff will [01:15:47] true, true [02:04:46] https://bsky.app/profile/rainverse.wiki/post/3lyr75ttqxk2t [03:58:04] Moegirlpedia's sysadmins removed the Variables and Loops extensions, which broke most pages on the site (there are about 140k main ns content pages total). There was a 2-month notice, which was not enough to fix everything. The site has been broken for a few days now, with things gradually being repaired. [03:58:39] [1/2] I'm mentioning it because, when I checked today, the layout inspiration for Miraheze monthly is still broken. [03:58:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1416634227016994846/image.png?ex=68c78eef&is=68c63d6f&hm=553315beac622597d13f3129cb544e3e95b17d45d8f8abdd94346dcda47cd4e3& [04:01:23] [1/2] What it used to look like. The layout is pretty much identical to MH Monthly. [04:01:23] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1416634911678398464/image.png?ex=68c78f92&is=68c63e12&hm=0c02167c77c7d4be018c0bba1ac77ea45043dad453d15e471c77cd3455636c22& [04:25:28] oof [04:30:33] Mega oof. [04:43:59] zomg how are you going on the site on Vector and without any of the ads [04:45:38] What was the reasoning behind removing Loops and Variables tho? Because of Parsoid? [04:47:19] For the record they both work on parsoid now AFAIK [04:48:46] have a bit of a scratching that they had ulterior motives [04:49:26] Vector had no ads from the start (back when moeskin introduced ads in 2022). They removed vector legacy and added vector-2022 in the recent upgrade to 1.43 citing caching issues. [04:50:15] I have to say vector 2022 is getting better but it still sucks. [04:50:32] At least without some modification to styles [04:50:39] (lie) [04:51:32] Caching issues makes no sense for why they would remove legacy vector though. At least to me. [04:51:55] The official explanation was to support Visual Editor (which uses parsoid), which is confusing because Variables is support by VE. Another reason given was the big warning on top of the extension page for Variables, which wasn't too convincing either because we all know how the WMF loves delaying their plans. [04:52:22] Probably. They have a record of lying... [04:53:16] Does Variables still have that warning? I thought the thing that it was warning for was fixed? [04:53:31] More skins would imply worse cache hit rates. That part made sense to me. I have no idea why they don't disable vector-2022 and continue to enable vector legacy, though. [04:54:18] Do they cache logged in? Thats an issue in of itself... [04:54:32] If they dont then removing one skin doesnt help cache hit rates much. [04:54:40] [1/2] Still there [04:54:40] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1416648320511905833/Screenshot_2025_0914_115424.png?ex=68c79c0f&is=68c64a8f&hm=80423ed84cb056e4323a26b41273eeb7196448fae398e41363b05d4646f03fb9& [04:54:48] I think the `parallelize parsing` part still applies, but the other task should be removed after Func's patch (it's still up there somehow). [04:55:06] Variables being supported by VE confirms it works with Parsoid so why does it still say that? [04:55:27] (VE is parsoid) [04:57:49] They could serve the same web page to everyone and then use js to fetch additional data for logged-in users, though this apeears to not be the case because an aggresive caching experiment resulted in users seeing other users' profile/watch list. [04:58:35] That's true. TBH most of their explanations don't make sense me... [04:59:55] Lemma raise in the mediawiki discord [05:04:34] Hmmm. I think Variables works with Parsoid (as in the parser migration tool) but not VE. VE doesn't give visible errors but some of the variable values are wrong. [05:59:23] monster is goated [06:02:25] fun fact: i used to drink energy drinks purely for the taste [06:02:36] i didn't feel any more energised [06:40:54] ew [06:43:54] wdym ew?? [06:44:24] energy drinks taste 😶‍🌫️ [06:45:17] [1/2] cherry kompot is the beverage of all times [06:45:18] [2/2] or cherry cappy at least (if you have that) [06:53:20] never had an energy drink in my life tbh [06:53:29] I do have coffee everyday tho [06:57:48] mfw it's been years since i last had coffee or energy drinks [07:13:22] Kind of ridiculous these guys are not working with the community to remove these? Are the sysadmins like completely uninterested in the wiki topic or what [08:03:42] [1/3] > girl mops her room [08:03:43] [2/3] > girl gets hrt notif [08:03:43] [3/3] oh no [08:35:48] [1/2] mh logo spotted [08:35:49] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1416703973133516901/image.png?ex=68c7cfe4&is=68c67e64&hm=6c7a8b39f1d7fdbb3448c9c7d2cfe079f84caf46f82915c3fcac045203d93fd5& [08:49:03] It seems that they just don't care. They did some unpopular things such as pushing an ad-ridden new skin, requiring phone number verification to edit, and promoting users to sysop/bureaucrat without community input (basically Chinese fandom). The number of active editors went from 4k down to 1.2k, but they are still doing things unilaterally... [09:09:42] sad [09:25:57] I did take a few sips once but it's just bad [09:26:00] Burns my tongue [09:33:31] Feels like every Chinese socmed site is pulling the "needs ID/phone number verification to use the site". I still haven't been able to look at bilibili comments... [09:34:40] i assume we can thank the ccp for that? [09:37:33] Hard to tell if gating the services to users without a Chinese land line is a bug or a feature to them [09:37:56] Maybe a feature, because how else are they going to market ads [09:38:28] https://old.reddit.com/r/asktransgender/comments/1ff6w3w/calling_people_man/lmsigpl/ [09:38:31] i ought to use that at some point [11:50:05] glorious android app update, discord, clipped headers and buttons crawling on top of each other [11:55:47] [1/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1416754297328111747/Screenshot_20250911-225623.png?ex=68c7fec2&is=68c6ad42&hm=5614c1a256a231deb9ae9d216697259fd0401d5ce0e53ee8f2506ed5720bb6ac& [11:55:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1416754297802330194/Screenshot_20250914-155531.png?ex=68c7fec2&is=68c6ad42&hm=036aba43d1193f1545f48f39f9ff0e01054efe36ff1c2d22fbfebb3ef837afb2& [13:38:16] I used my US number for moegirlpedia and did the same for bilibili many years ago. It may not be possible now, though. [15:38:07] [1/4] Quick FYI, tomorrow is the last day to submit talks to the MediaWiki Users and Developers Conference Fall 2025: [15:38:08] [2/4] https://www.semantic-mediawiki.org/wiki/MediaWiki_Users_and_Developers_Conference_Fall_2025/Call_for_Contributions [15:38:08] [3/4] Deadline: Tomorrow, September 15th [15:38:08] [4/4] Conference: October 28–30, Hanover, Germany [16:55:01] it's still possible for bilibili at least! it actually refused to accept my taiwan number, so i had to use my american one lol [17:39:17] hi everyone [17:40:01] I have finally gone insane, I'm going to try to write that PHP blog software I made as a C CGI program intended to be ran under WASI https://github.com/redbluegreenhat/wasi-blog [17:40:09] this is what boredom does to a man damn [17:41:08] if anyone else wants to do something insane like this I've written a GitHub action that installs the wasi-sdk toolchain on the runner btw, checkout https://github.com/redbluegreenhat/setup-wasi-sdk [17:41:11] I just tried everclear [17:41:16] my throat burns [18:01:37] Definitely insane [18:30:20] It does tend to have that effect, it's as if it is dehydrating you as it goes down. 😄 [18:30:54] yeah [18:30:59] shouldnt have done it tbhhh [19:16:53] slightly confused, the `main.c` just prints hello world? [19:16:59] sorry didn't mean to ping [19:17:30] am I just stupid? lol [19:19:17] Oh [19:19:32] I am stupid. I thought you meant you'd written it but turns out it says you're going to write it lol [19:31:40] yeah, I haven't written it yet, mostly deciding what I'm going to use in terms of buildsystem (make, cmake, meson, or YOLO it with a shell script), as well as how I want to approach general flow since C is actually quite a bit different from PHP, believe it or not [19:32:04] I just put hello world there to try out my Action for compiling to WASI [19:34:32] you laugh but this is the future old man, websites written on WASM+WASI and deployed to serverless blockchain-based decentralized distributed edge computing infrastructure [19:34:45] Do I have enough buzzwords there? [19:35:02] Blazor WASM always ❤️ [19:35:08] Powered by AI [19:35:32] how could I miss that?? [19:38:22] not even blazingly fast rewritten in rust [19:39:09] I mean, you can compile rust to WASI nowadays [19:39:26] I just don't like Rust so I chose C 😂 [19:39:51] I'm willing to do joke projects like these but at a minimum I have to like the language at least [19:39:53] based [19:39:56] no offense to Rust fans [19:40:01] I dislike rust [19:45:15] [1/11] smhead my h do you even ```rust [19:45:16] [2/11] ($left:expr, $right:expr $(,)?) => { [19:45:16] [3/11] match (&$left, &$right) { [19:45:16] [4/11] (left_val, right_val) => { [19:45:17] [5/11] if !(left_val == right_val) { [19:45:17] [6/11] let kind = $crate::panicking::AssertKind::Eq; [19:45:17] [7/11] $crate::panicking::assert_failed(kind, &left_val, &right_val, $crate::option::Option::None); [19:45:18] [8/11] } [19:45:18] [9/11] } [19:45:18] [10/11] } [19:45:18] [11/11] };``` [19:45:25] look at this beauty of a language [20:51:57] panicking? now that's something i'm learning to do 😎 [22:16:31] left to right things read we if Imagine [22:16:53] hebrew and arabic Like [22:17:01] did we If [22:17:36] read to easier been have would message This [22:20:37] true [22:42:16] https://gfw.report/blog/geedge_and_mesa_leak/en/ [23:22:22] it was too much everclear [23:22:29] it feels like a fever dream [23:22:31] help [23:34:42] Ooof, stay safe, rest it off, keep water handy. [23:34:51] I took 5 in total [23:35:11] might wanna temp timeoitbme sonce im drunk rn pls [23:35:17] timeout [23:35:40] pls [23:35:44] just do it [23:35:52] Yeahhhhh that's definitely too much. Good news: unlikely to kill you if you stop having any additional everclear. Bad news: Tomorrow will suck. [23:36:20] Timed out per request, feel better soon.