[00:00:46] I don't think that was the point [00:06:27] The point is that if Andy was on the political side that currently gives no shit about free speech then how can you be sure that the company he's leading is going to respect it [00:08:39] You can't be 100% sure about that, but Proton the company (not the CEO) has stated that they would remain politically neutral and I haven't heard of any instances of Proton censoring people - if you have, then please share examples of that happening [00:09:55] Of course, but you can see why it would be a red flag [00:18:31] oh 100% [00:19:32] if you're a privacy focused company endorsing someone that thinks hitler was kinda cool actually then i don't trust you to keep my info safe [00:19:48] actually if you're an anything focused company i don't trust you [00:20:28] free speech is absolutely important [00:20:52] however if you're using said free speech to endorse someone who is openly against free speech then that's another story [00:21:35] https://tommccallum.com/2021/09/02/do-not-tolerate-the-intolerant/ [00:21:37] see above [00:24:09] Counterpoint: Unproblematic management/ownership is an unfortunate rarity rather than the norm. Many large companies are headed by awful humans who are varying degrees of good at the thing they are hired to do. [00:25:26] That said, There is a point after which a company's directorship does need to assess whether it's worth keeping such a person at helm if they continue to espouse terrible things publicly, the paradox of tolerance absolutely applies here. [00:26:14] I for one will very much be watching what Proton the entity does more than what it says in coming weeks. [00:29:18] > [16/09/2025 10:24] Counterpoint: Unproblematic management/ownership is an unfortunate rarity rather than the norm. Many large companies are headed by awful humans who are varying degrees of good at the thing they are hired to do. [00:29:20] oh, this was a while ago [00:29:20] too relatable... [00:29:28] _ That said, there is a point after which a company's directorship does need to assess whether it's worth keeping such a person at helm if they continue to _ looks at Fandom [00:29:52] i think this is the point where they need to asses that stuff and they haven't [00:30:15] also, proton claims all their software is open source on their site [00:30:20] despite that not being the truth [00:30:59] oh? i missed that part lol [00:31:15] them having their own imap/smtp bridge that needs you to pay is icky though [01:22:13] https://mastodon.social/@GroupNebula563/115211339741915745 [01:22:15] we found him [02:59:22] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1417344082694635570/n1trec06fcpf1.jpg?ex=68ca240a&is=68c8d28a&hm=59259405976244c0f823740843168d0ff29d441f8c31df201461c19266f2a28f& [03:25:44] hell yeah!!! [03:25:50] > [16/09/2025 12:06] My friend showed me one wiki where they had an entire sub page dedicated to citing a characters pronouns [03:25:56] amelialoveheart: page? [03:28:26] https://limbuscompany.wiki.gg/wiki/User:YouthOfPanda/Mountain_of_Dante_Pronoun_References [03:28:48] 98 reference [03:28:49] this is amazing and horrifying [03:29:14] isn't linked to by anything unfortunately [03:29:15] so just a subpage [03:33:40] Yeah but it’s listed in the infobox for the character in question [03:35:00] ah okay [03:35:09] (why didn't Special:WhatLinksHere didn't tell me...) [03:36:13] oh, it's an external link [04:17:54] Weird [04:20:27] damn they're still keeping claire in prison [04:33:48] Undertale is 10 years old [04:33:50] Yay [05:26:50] I'm back and sober [05:27:04] this was such a fever dream [05:37:22] frfr