[00:28:25] https://www.techdirt.com/2025/12/04/eus-top-court-just-made-it-literally-impossible-to-run-a-user-generated-content-platform-legally/ [00:28:27] what is this timeline [01:41:44] I got that, too. [01:41:54] But hey, free decoration! [03:11:26] mira w [03:24:16] My #3 top server was also the volunteer discord [03:34:24] If mine was available, my top server would be my wiki's Discord server and here, sometimes in the APG Discord and SEWH Discord as well. [04:18:27] ??? [04:18:57] L [04:19:26] It's just 'year in review' type stats [06:02:41] Spotify, but for Discord. [06:46:37] [1/2] this correlates to me getting fatter [06:46:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446392301977997373/image.png?ex=6933d14d&is=69327fcd&hm=57706fd6e5512f6520a95a843ed6cdc210b7e9291b20d2f3cc77156121082f9e& [06:53:00] [1/2] Weak [06:53:00] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446393905716133898/image-133.png?ex=6933d2cb&is=6932814b&hm=44c5bfae810ad7a8ca9fb33757b96af3c05e7eda31cf7218987cbf435160a431& [08:57:51] Peak [08:58:05] [1/2] pfft [08:58:06] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446425385804763216/image.png?ex=6933f01d&is=69329e9d&hm=94ce49e82562168a5e6650fff2ce130e775f1b9abe2c8ae235509e691a1df67f& [08:59:02] :emojiWHYohWHYYcry: [09:02:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1053050428683714642/1445715256327540788/hunnic_attack.gif [09:14:51] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382207711332143106/1446152102358290533/geewhiz.gif [09:33:12] [1/6] my dear EU's going through a bit of a tough time alright 🥲 [09:33:12] [2/6] ``` [09:33:13] [3/6] Having regard to all the foregoing reasons, the answer to the first question is that Article 1(5)(b) of Directive 2000/31 and Article 2(4) of the GDPR must be interpreted as meaning that the operator of an online marketplace, as controller, within the meaning of Article 4(7) of the GDPR, of the personal data contained in advertisements published on its o [09:33:13] [4/6] nline marketplace, cannot rely, in respect of an infringement of the obligations arising from Article 5(2) and Articles 24 to 26 and 32 of that regulation, on Articles 12 to 15 of that directive, relating to the liability of intermediary providers. [09:33:13] [5/6] ``` [09:33:14] [6/6] that's some good shit [09:42:34] [1/2] that article is a bit sensationalist though, this is about online marketplaces and it's not like this would apply to like a Twitter clone or something similar as long as it isn't an online marketplace. I mean, it is impossible for them to comply with this without like the most extreme privacy invasions ever but at least as it is it will not impact other types of websites right a [09:42:35] [2/2] way [09:43:32] [1/7] ``` [09:43:32] [2/7] Article 5(2) and Articles 24 to 26 of Regulation (EU) 2016/679 of the European Parliament and of the Council of 27 April 2016 on the protection of natural persons with regard to the processing of personal data and on the free movement of such data, and repealing Directive 95/46/EC (General Data Protection Regulation) [09:43:32] [3/7] must be interpreted as meaning that the operator of an online marketplace, as controller, within the meaning of Article 4(7) of that regulation, of the personal data contained in advertisements published on its online marketplace, is required, before the publication of the advertisements and by means of appropriate technical and organisational measures, [09:43:32] [4/7] – to identify the advertisements that contain sensitive data in terms of Article 9(1) of that regulation, [09:43:33] [5/7] – to verify whether the user advertiser preparing to place such an advertisement is the person whose sensitive data appear in that advertisement and, if this is not the case, [09:43:33] [6/7] – to refuse publication of that advertisement, unless that user advertiser can demonstrate that the data subject has given his or her explicit consent to the data in question being published on that online marketplace, within the meaning of Article 9(2)(a), or that one of the other exceptions provided for in Article 9(2)(b) to (j) is satisfied. [09:43:33] [7/7] ``` [09:44:11] at least until this gets expanded to apply more broadly, which will happen if nothing is done to fix this, but that's something [09:47:12] marketplaces and user content? [09:47:18] so like, etsy? [09:47:33] and stuff like Wallapop as well [09:47:38] (if you know what that is) [09:47:47] i wouldn't be able to sell naughty zines? [09:48:02] i do not lol [09:48:05] basically anything that allows you to publish stuff for sale is probably a marketplace [09:49:11] well I guess wallapop is really only an spanish thing oops [10:11:55] [1/2] ah yes [10:11:55] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446443964528988313/1764929509784.png?ex=6934016a&is=6932afea&hm=89a3da83acb2f2f4cc8b16596b53ffd8ff06cb7c9ef0009d4600469539e3fad5& [10:16:14] Verify Your Data [10:16:39] You accept our Terma of Use (it steals your data) [10:51:37] https://prismreports.org/2025/12/04/prison-rape-elimination-act-trans-intersex-trump-doj/ [10:51:40] we had rape protections? [10:56:36] his ass is horrible my god [10:56:44] this is why he's orange [11:20:57] this feels like a formality more than anything lol [12:07:09] Oh Netflix just acquired Warner Bros [12:07:11] What the helly [12:08:47] wtf [12:08:51] that's crazy [12:09:24] I wonder what will happen to HBO Max [12:09:49] it'd be funny if it all became a monopoly again [12:10:10] tbh that would be a good thing [12:10:17] Isn't Comcast the monopoly in the US [12:10:22] (well, not being a monopoly) [12:10:25] doesn't it own like most of the companies [12:10:36] but I mean like that's one less streaming service cockblocking movies and tv shows [12:10:43] wasn't wb under fox? [12:11:06] or disney [12:11:17] whatever [12:12:27] Nope [12:12:32] Used to be AT&T iirc [12:12:42] iirc [12:12:43] Through it's parent company but iirc it was spun off [12:12:50] disney did own a bit of fox at some point [12:13:01] like 20% of it? [12:13:02] when animators were on strike they said they only get royalties for shows on actual tv and not streaming, so basically "like yeah sure you can pirate tjis shot, we aren't getting money either way" lol [12:13:13] Disney owns 20th Century Fox [12:13:21] But not Fox Corporation (the news et al) [12:13:26] oh [12:22:24] just logged in to phorge after a while and checked my assigned tasks, that brought back some memories damn (been only a year since then, but still, kind of nostalgic) [12:23:26] also I said I'd get around to looking at [[phorge:T14121]] and I never did, oops, kind of want to for old time's sake [12:23:26] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phorge:T14121 [12:23:26] [12:44:38] king of canceling shows that didn't earn a barjillion views acquiring the king of cancelling fully finished movies for tax write offs, wowee [12:44:47] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1382207711332143106/1446152102358290533/geewhiz.gif [12:49:09] shit like this is going to have to get ignored (preferably rebuked as loudly and often as possible but few have the vocal cords for it) until it can't be, at which point we rebase on decentralized and/or alt networks that remain deliberately obscure to be the last safe harbors on the net [12:49:46] and in fact I'm interested in any effort that is focused on the second half because I do think there will come a point where the internet is going where only the obscure internet will be a free harbor and a place like miraheze can no longer exist [12:50:16] if it was during this decade I would not be surprised [12:50:33] you mean gonna descend into darkweb? [12:50:42] I'm halfway there as it is [12:51:41] you will not make it far if you're living it up exclusively on discord and using a top ten site and everything you use is intrinsically linked to cloudflare which is a common point of censorship any government can tap on [12:52:41] same [12:53:31] this shit haven't loaded for me so i was like screw it lol [12:55:12] I'm doing something right if discord feels less entitled to parse globs of data like that [12:55:20] irc3 with a discord-like client is all I ask tbh [12:55:35] but preferably lighter in something like tauri [12:57:34] i still would need to use vpn in case kremlin decides to check what im sayings on public irc channels isn't? [12:57:49] why does discord make user decorations for one month [12:58:13] oh yeah some kind of tunnel is required these days and not least for you legroom [12:58:32] I recommend it wherever you are if only to set a default preference of stay the fuck out of my business [12:58:53] of course you need to choose very carefully because most of the industry is pretty much a scam if you're doing it for data protection [12:59:21] and by protection I mean a tunnel that doesn't report to isp/agencies, it's not protection in any other real sense [12:59:48] windscribe proved to be the most reliable, and greece tried to sue them recently cus they don't make logs [12:59:57] windscribe is on my recommend list [13:00:28] mullvad, ivpn, proton (contingent), tor [13:00:49] there are more experimental ones I'm watching but would not yet recommend [13:01:38] i used ivpn when they offered free accounts [13:01:53] for specific countries [13:01:57] something outside of those may be useful if your needs are different and you don't care that it's a snoopy tunnel or has a less than great record [13:02:06] if nord works for given needs then why not I guess [13:02:37] yeah well, thing is that the only way to pay for better ones is crypto or asking someone overseas to pay for you lol [13:02:52] yeah your options are quite limited [13:03:04] i managed to do the latter this year [13:03:10] I wonder if mullvad would accept cash from where you are [13:03:19] or if that would even be possible [13:03:26] doubt [13:03:36] the rouble was less valuable than robux at one point [13:03:50] lmao [13:03:51] I'd imagine any mail is extremely suspect in and out of russia's vicinity anyway [13:04:06] man, i remember the days when 1$ was 30 rub ... [13:04:52] anyway if someone's in a pinch and needs 3 months of mullvad or something I'm thinking of making that a thing I do for some people [13:05:17] ivpn and the like probably qualify too [13:05:55] I do like mullvad but sometimes its straight worse than tor for ip blocks [14:33:10] https://tenor.com/view/mario-eyes-let%27s-take-a-look-let%27s-have-a-look-look-gif-840960144253383542 [14:33:29] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446509792343359650/cat.mp4?ex=69343eb9&is=6932ed39&hm=05b0150e0208b8ed189c82ca1fa9e5275a78870d131663a2c02cc9e2448473b1& [14:33:54] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1293312886277406743/1343916790245494844/caption.gif [15:49:29] whats with wayback macine and it not loading the website styles [15:49:45] so frustating to find a good archive [22:01:39] that's specifically for spironolactone [22:01:54] cyproterone acetate only has cumulative risk of meningioma, and bica only has a risk of liver toxicity [22:02:00] so it's essentially pick your poison [22:02:05] there's also GnRH analogues, but $$$ [22:03:26] Hummm poison yummy [22:03:31] a:aeKyueats: [22:03:39] [1/2] what we know about TUn: "250-1000 mg 10-14 weekly (first two doses 6 weeks apart)" [22:03:39] [2/2] what we know about EUn: "Consider consulting a witch’s almanac for the lunar calendar to inject once every full moon" [22:04:13] i eat poison every two days :3 [22:04:38] Honestly considering some of the people who like to demonise medicine, they would prefer talking to a literal witch for healthcare advice [22:04:55] funny enough, i found a nice tidbit about reducing poison from a witch [22:05:08] Infact I'm certain that's what 90% of homeopathy is and that's like a multibilion industry [22:05:16] https://hrt.witches.club/medication-basics/#cyproterone-acetate [22:05:36] this is literally the only piece i am aware of that lets you know how to downtitrate cyproterone acetate as much as possible [22:05:56] See, I would only go into endocrinology if there was a hormone that made me a werewolf [22:06:05] awoo [22:06:11] ^they get it [22:06:19] i would like to be a succubus, but best i can do is be a hot trans girl [22:06:28] Same thing right? [22:06:34] no horns [22:06:41] :emojiWHYohWHYYcry: [22:06:46] or tail [22:06:56] fake it til you make it [22:07:00] I mean technically you might have a tail [22:07:01] but i am a succubus at heart :p [22:07:03] Just ya know [22:07:04] touche [22:07:07] facing the wrong way [22:07:11] LMAO [22:07:20] no wonder i want to keep it xD [22:07:41] See, there you go, succubus at heart and at pelvis [22:07:55] lmfao xD [22:08:13] i also have (detachable) cat ears, but they hurt when i put them on for an extended amount of time :p [22:08:26] Ugh mood [22:08:57] I have these like fox ears but they alwasy rip my hair out for some reason [22:09:02] awh [22:09:16] Yeah it's a real travesty [22:09:17] hopefully animal hrt will be a reality one day [22:09:24] God I wish [22:09:31] a travesty of mine is having to get out of bed to take my hrt [22:09:55] i ended up having to push back my morning hrt dose to give me more eepies [22:10:18] I keep forgetting to take my meds and it does my head in [22:10:25] OUCH [22:10:35] i'm sorry on your behalf 🫂 [22:10:45] i use a reminder app luckily [22:10:53] but the one time i forgot my nightly dose, i woke up feeling numb [22:10:56] uhhhh yeah Not Fun [22:11:05] Yeah I have soneone who monitors it for me but they can't do it all the time [22:12:05] It's not too bad because they're all hormonal so they take like a week or two to wear off, but i am also literally schizophrenic and if I don't take them I start thinking the walls are bleeding [22:12:08] So ya know [22:12:10] Fun [22:12:26] if only mine took a week to wear off [22:12:58] Problem is schizophrenia is like one of those things that tries to convinve you that you don't have it [22:13:02] oh [22:13:04] So you forget you have it [22:13:10] And then not take your meds [22:13:23] And then go "oh right shit, that's not supposed to be there" [22:14:05] shout out to the time when my glasses fell on my phone while i was napping, causing my hrt alarm to be dismissed and me to be late [22:14:25] Oof that is tragic [22:14:52] (ignore the 10 pm dose, there's a bug with the calendar in this version) [22:15:09] Ah I see [22:15:23] i happen to have an audio recording of the incident [22:15:29] Pfff [22:15:47] turns out that having the mic on your phone on 24/7 causes a lot of battery drain [22:15:53] i blame the homophobe who lived with me for a couple months [22:16:15] Yeesh, i can't relate but that sounds awful [22:16:21] Hopefully you're out of that situation [22:16:31] The bang at the end is classic [22:16:38] yeah he got kicked out of australia because he kept skipping school [22:16:44] that's one way to leave i guess [22:16:54] Lol deserved ig [22:16:58] agreed [22:17:19] Idk the only annoying housemate i had was a guy who was just horrifically stupid [22:17:34] Like broke 3 microwaves level of idiotic [22:17:48] that's impressive if it weren't tragic for you [22:18:06] Yeah, he broke them all by putting metal in them [22:18:21] He also flooded the kitchen once and was shocked we got mold [22:18:23] oh my fucking god [22:18:30] how do you flood the kitchen?? [22:18:53] probably thinks actions dont have consequences [22:19:08] okay but like [22:19:11] _how_ do you flood a kitchen [22:19:17] He overloaded the washing machine, and because the water couldn't drain correctly it made like 2cm of water spread all over the floor [22:19:28] fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck [22:19:33] Like 2cm everywhere [22:19:36] i now know how [22:19:37] i have a feeling your local chef could do the same [22:19:40] or should i say arsonist [22:19:45] touche [22:20:00] You could walk and like water would splash around their ankles [22:20:05] (for context: somehow, whenever she cooks, there's a 50% chance of the fire alarm blaring) [22:20:35] Tf [22:20:36] let me guess, he went upstairs and didn't deal w it? [22:20:39] same here [22:20:42] YUPPP [22:20:44] well, i pulled 50% out of my ass [22:20:54] but it's common enough that i'm desensitised to the fire alarm [22:21:03] I had to shout at him literally shout at him to get him to clean it [22:21:12] ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [22:21:24] i don't deal with shouting well, but ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [22:21:58] And he was like "How do you know it was me, I'm not cleaning that" when there was literally like a shirt with his fucking name embroidered on the front stuck against the door of the washing machine that was still spewing water [22:22:14] til people get those [22:22:17] but like [22:22:18] wait [22:22:19] WTF [22:22:22] ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [22:22:33] oh my god [22:22:39] > _still_ spewing water [22:23:03] Neither do I but oh my god did he piss me off [22:23:17] thats not even plausible denial [22:23:34] As I said, he was catastrophically stupid [22:23:45] i don't know what shocks me more [22:23:59] the fact that he went "eh, just a shirt is okay" or that he put metal in three microwaves [22:24:08] The worst part is that I almost ended up in a poly with him [22:24:14] my apologies omfg [22:24:34] i too like running into burning buildings [22:24:47] i think men these days do like choking without consent? [22:24:57] i feel like he'd be the type to do that [22:24:58] Idk how much was in that washing machine but it was like 3 bug towels and all of his clothes [22:25:16] And this was a tiny machine [22:25:22] Like size of a shoebox tiny [22:25:38] til they make them _that_ small [22:25:40] but that's even worse [22:25:52] Oh they do, and it's disgusting [22:26:06] Like this was before I realised I was lesbo but yeah [22:26:20] bleh [22:26:26] how many men i wonder [22:26:40] i wanna be an optimist and say "only" half [22:26:52] but i also got that estimate from my ass and never had any experience, so idk [22:27:06] Did I take one look at him and go "yup definitely gay"? no, but was he part of that process? definitely [22:27:25] i laughed when i read that latter question omg [22:27:50] you know you've fucked up when you've made someone gay /lh [22:28:08] great success [22:28:41] ## Great Success [22:28:44] One of my friends is like a bdsm educator and it's apparently very common for people to like not understand that if you choke someone till they pass out you are doing brain damage and it can permanently harm them. and like 90% of them are men [22:29:01] ah yes the one thing your brain needs to function [22:29:03] lets remove it [22:29:04] i'm both surprised and not surprised [22:29:29] i've heard it came from mainstream porn [22:29:39] makes me even happier that i never really liked mainstream porn [22:29:45] a:aPES_BigBrainType: [22:29:51] smart people i swear [22:30:09] at least they're licking the keyboard and not the toilet bowl [22:31:37] But yeah, i am definitely glad I didn't end up in a poly with him, but i am even more glad that once his gf broke up with him, his gf and I started dating like 2 weeks later [22:31:41] a:bcaThumbsUpYes: [22:31:44] ahahahaha [22:32:05] insane w [22:32:12] bet he blamed you for making him a cuck [22:32:30] Oh he did [22:32:35] heh [22:33:06] He blamed me for his gf braking up with him so hard, but it was 100% because he kept blackmailing her [22:33:18] what the fuck [22:33:20] the fuck [22:33:56] He would basically do shit like "If you don't stop doing X I'll hurt my self" type shit [22:34:00] UM [22:34:04] ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [22:34:26] mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm i love abuse [22:34:30] you should hand him some sort of book that describes that type of abuse [22:34:40] i love being scared to leave my room 😍 [22:34:47] bold of you to assume he can read [22:34:51] 50 shades of grey? [22:34:54] LOL [22:34:59] never read it actually [22:35:05] i might have a copy of it tho, lemme check [22:35:27] oh yep [22:35:49] Nah like worst off he was studying to be a criminal investor [22:36:06] Like idk basically the UK equivalent of a detective [22:36:12] mf was the criminal [22:36:22] wait [22:36:25] nvm [22:36:44] probably needs to be a bedtime story or something :skull\ [22:36:50] ^knows what's up [22:37:04] the ceiling [22:37:05] You have heard some of the stories of our cops right ? [22:37:11] nope [22:37:14] Eyyyy [22:37:28] i do know that australian police is queerphobic and transphobic, but that ain't the uk [22:37:31] oi yous got a loicense for storytelling? [22:37:34] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Sarah_Everard [22:37:51] The UK has detectives [22:37:55] my fucking god [22:38:28] > The vigil on Clapham Common, near where she had been kidnapped, led to a controversial police response and four arrests for breaches of COVID-19 regulations [22:38:29] ugh [22:38:32] that's one way to stop a vigil [22:38:54] Yeah but there's like a whole bunch of departments and different names and he wasn't gonna be a detective but he was gonna be a detective adjacent so like [22:39:39] I was saying it that way so it would make some sense to someone who doesn't know the uk justice system well [22:39:53] I assume he was going to work in CID [22:40:15] You can work in CID and have the rank of detective [22:40:29] Probably, all I know is that he had to retake his foundation year 3 times because he couldn't do maths [22:40:38] that [22:40:41] how were the maths [22:40:47] Pretty basic [22:40:52] 3 * 3 basic? [22:41:00] More like algebra [22:41:04] ah [22:41:07] still sigh though [22:41:13] like idk high-school maths [22:41:24] like late high-school [22:41:25] hi chat hello hi [22:41:42] so something like "One microwave costs $300. He has destroyed three microwaves. How much money did all the destroyed microwaves cost?" i presume? [22:41:55] [1/2] check out this high quality cellular device I own [22:41:56] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446632709630857339/IMG_8339.mov?ex=6934b133&is=69335fb3&hm=75508627c8c42dbc0be20446c5f26f960461a3f08cd0372cc0cf0dba28631fae& [22:42:14] Yup [22:42:32] chinafake ost omg [22:42:36] tiny [22:42:46] actually the same size as a real iPhone [22:43:00] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446632979903283311/IMG_3134.mov?ex=6934b173&is=69335ff3&hm=993a293860d9d40aa5a5ba199f5481924883cae3d7e23a635d2c4a3744c69c9d& [22:43:00] from 2008 [22:43:20] I was like 5 in 2008 [22:43:37] [1/2] the speakers sound like this no matter the volume [22:43:37] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446633137965633668/IMG_3137.mov?ex=6934b199&is=69336019&hm=129d23e919bcb7d9c3ab34c9d6d75db67ed1381ce187494d37721f0d536214e8& [22:43:41] But that's kinda cool [22:43:42] and yes that mp3 is preloaded [22:43:58] furbnet [22:44:05] furrynet when [22:44:15] Today [22:44:19] yay :3 [22:44:25] If my wiki about werewolves is any indication [22:44:34] yep, I set up my own 2G network to use these with [22:44:47] [1/2] some other ones I have [22:44:47] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446633429721677925/IMG_3129.jpg?ex=6934b1de&is=6933605e&hm=c5292242d288197ec5467fa91ea5019d74f7df1d29913d742e9de603830cebe9& [22:44:50] Woah that's cool [22:44:53] can you compare the microphones dankpods-style? [22:45:04] Fishies [22:46:50] they’re all equally awful [22:46:57] Lol [22:46:59] ah [22:47:03] what tier of awful [22:47:31] I should get back to writing werewolf fanfiction [22:47:41] a:owoWave: [22:48:03] [1/2] left is a real iPhone 2G, the other three are bootlegs [22:48:04] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446634254552535150/IMG_8346.jpg?ex=6934b2a3&is=69336123&hm=c77fcd8a680bb5578efce14770281735bb266c3b6706734d48214c74c98be093& [22:48:27] i wonder, has there been a chinafake that you could flash actual ios on [22:48:34] or is the hardware too dissimilar [22:48:56] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446634474451505294/IMG_8347.jpg?ex=6934b2d7&is=69336157&hm=bfbfb32fe49fdef7fcade0fd814de13ac144ada4993fd0d91c7e05e0f6ea588d& [22:49:03] ugh, imagine an ios on chinafake project xD [22:49:09] engineering marvel, 100% useless [22:49:25] same manufacturer huh [22:49:34] these are all based off MediaTek chips, basically a feature phone SOC [22:49:46] they run the MAUI OS, which is a feature phone OS [22:49:58] i was thinking like a third-party project [22:50:02] but it’s been poorly adapted for touch screens [22:50:18] kinda like macos on a ms surface [22:50:33] my point is the MediaTek SoCs have basically the specs of a 2003 flip phone [22:50:37] oh [22:50:37] if even [22:50:51] My home internet has decided DNS isn't a thing [22:51:01] I rebooted the router and it won't wake back up [22:51:19] actually no [22:51:23] oh [22:51:23] same OEM though [22:51:25] or [22:51:28] ah oki [22:51:29] same company OEMing them [22:52:05] the way MediaTek worked (and still does work, you can still buy SoCs from 2003 from them) is [22:52:58] you would put in an order for an SoC and they’d send a bunch to you to put in your devices, along with the MAUI source code so you could customize the OS as you saw fit [22:53:57] naturally a couple different source code revisions have leaked, in various stages of completeness [22:54:02] https://github.com/wangzhibinjunhua/plutommi here’s one [22:54:52] most of these have a full OS source package [22:55:00] but incomplete/missing build environments [22:56:49] There's a problem with the signal in your area and we're looking into it [22:56:54] Well done Virgin media [22:57:12] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446636556424318996/IMG_8348.png?ex=6934b4c8&is=69336348&hm=0eae4f13126100985a1419307754f13780cb70643302308b031ca9f26a6a8a33& [22:57:25] I love these little conversations between the devs you can find in here [22:58:33] [1/2] oh cool they talk about MoDIS in here [22:58:33] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1446636894816571412/IMG_8349.png?ex=6934b518&is=69336398&hm=b5dddbc86ef29f8192aa45e38cdf0396a76e8ca48b4da01fb37a7fbca6fc9071& [22:59:13] (MoDIS is MediaTek’s SoC emulator, it was usually bundled with source code and/or given to devs that were working on apps for MAUI) [23:00:56] but yeah MAUI still gets updates and is still used on devices today, despite originally being created in 2002(!) [23:01:06] making it probably the longest running mobile OS I’m aware of [23:02:03] it’s also super efficient [23:02:22] especially given the SoCs only have like 640k of ram [23:02:58] https://lpcwiki.miraheze.org/wiki/MTK_systems-on-chip [23:03:09] specs on this wiki (hosted on our very own Miraheze!) [23:04:19] by the time the boot animation starts playing the system is actually fully initialized [23:04:41] so in reality it only takes like a second to boot up