[00:28:57] I wonder what sort of records did mh broke already [00:29:36] It's just only 2 months... [01:52:40] Most requests in a month, most successful fundraiser to date, highest concurrent wiki count, to name a few [02:01:35] every month we're hitting new records [03:24:53] Isn’t that because as time goes on so does data? [03:25:15] perhaps [03:25:43] Yeah [03:26:41] I mean, every new month means new people which means new stuff which means news occurrences which means new data which means new records which means more happiness which means more dopamine which means more fun stuff which means new people and the cycle goes on and on and on until we die [04:40:48] We've had instances where number did not go up, but it's been a few straight years of continuous growth. 🙂 [07:06:05] Is there anyone from Portuguese, if so, shall only answer on my message? [10:43:30] that's how I feel with seeing new wikis for topics being made or moving away from Fandom [10:43:42] or even as something small as creating a new article on a specific wiki [10:45:12] If the current rate of growth continues for 10 years we'd be as large as fandom is right now. [10:47:00] that would be so crazy [10:54:11] [1/3] Current rate of growth is roughly 40% per year, which is pretty much doubling every 2 years. [10:54:11] [2/3] In 10 years we'd be 2^5=32 times the current size. [10:54:12] [3/3] The size difference (traffic, num users, num wikis, etc.) between Fandom and MH is roughly 30x to 50x. [10:55:17] To think that we need to double server capacity every 2 years makes me fearful for the future of the tech team, and I sure hope we get more donations to match this growth. [10:56:47] at that point we'd have to start Wikipedia-level begging for donations probably [10:57:11] I imagine it'll settle before then [10:57:33] It would be very difficult to go from our current state to 32x our size without significant investment [10:57:34] hopefully lol [10:57:35] only 2 dollars 🙏 please 2 dollars 💵 donation 🙏 so close to closing please save us 🙏 💵 [10:57:46] Because you'll eventually reach a critical point where we need staff [10:57:52] (has 100 million in the bank) [10:57:59] You need something big to professionalise it [10:59:04] Sadly I didn't win that much in Vegas [10:59:14] amateur [10:59:33] I'm just proud the machine gave me back more than I put in [11:01:36] [1/2] I think it really depends on what happens to other platforms. If ad-free official wikis like https://fate-trigger.fandom.com/wiki/Fate_Trigger_Wiki becomes more common I'd imagine many wikis would be reluctant to leave the platform. [11:01:37] [2/2] There are rumors about indie.io being in a precarious position and so the future of wiki.gg seems uncertain. If something happens to it many wikis will seek greener pastures elsewhere. [11:03:01] I'd gladly work for WikiTide Foundation for that free H1B from non-profits lol [11:03:28] Though it'd probably never happen considering the 100k fee [11:04:23] If it doesn't settle then we're going to need someone to drop a few hundred thousand in donations so we can pay someone full time [11:08:13] [1/2] It'd also be interesting to know why wikis are created here: some migrate from other platforms, some choose MH after weighing different options, and some create their new wiki here after being around the platform for a while editing other wikis. The last type of growth will happen regardless of what other platforms are doing: as long as we do well p [11:08:14] [2/2] eople will be willing to stay around for more wikis. [11:09:25] Perhaps the intermediate step would be a contractor? Not sure what specialty they'd have, but it would alleviate the type of work with the acutest shortage of volunteers. [11:12:06] Depends what type of contractor [11:12:46] A contractor whose an individual we can contract direct v an employee will probably be similarish but money leaves in different ways [11:13:07] Also depends what countries they are from (UK has shitty and confusing tax laws) [11:13:38] You don't want to be going through a company that's just taking a 10% fee [11:14:44] If it was anyone outside of the US we'd need to pay an employer of record though likely [11:17:47] Yeah I guess it's not too different from a part-time employee anyway. Might as well start paying a volunteer at that point anyway. [11:21:01] Ye I'd rather pay a volunteer than random contractor [11:21:06] Make a bigger impact [11:21:19] I've also worked with random contractors before and have my opinions @posix_memalign [11:29:46] [1/2] rare fandom W, they should do this to all of their official wikis [11:29:46] [2/2] also, wiki.gg seems stable right now, just as long as indie.io doesn't get bought out by pr*vate equ!ty [11:31:33] yeah, this is one thing that worries me about miraheze, that server costs might become exponentially larger and harder to pay for, but hope we don't come to that point [11:38:34] tbh why there are six buttons on the donate page, but four point to a same site while two point to another same site [11:59:55] @posix_memalign I've been past 2 of our DCs this week. I've just been past Stevenage on the train and I flew over SLC yesterday or the day before. [12:00:08] I can't be arsed to work out when it's been that long of a journey [12:00:36] Time is a myth when you've been travelling since 9am UTC-8 on Monday and it's now 12 UTC Wednesday [12:08:35] Travelling is miserable, at least in my personal experience of it [12:08:55] Harej would know. I think it has to do with minimizing the transaction fee. [12:10:32] I enjoy travelling most of the time [12:10:44] Although two 3 hour + delays I did not [12:10:50] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1478726411857690677/IMG_1411.png?ex=69a972c9&is=69a82149&hm=74626c3d4b23d3da05b94873e9ad6d9f2dd26e30637d6d5bfda93fb345457a6b& [12:11:07] Hopefully my work trip isn't as insane [12:12:18] apple pay and google pay give a link for stripe [12:38:58] that could probably be better displayed [12:53:52] tbh i've been considering donating long ago (tho i can't donate very much), but none of the links work for me [12:56:29] goes without saying, If you’re not in a position to donate, you absolutely don’t need to [12:56:51] If the links don’t work that’s something we can look into with more detail [12:59:16] nvm github and stripe just don't accept unionpay debit cards' [12:59:53] paypal should work but it keeps saying "Please enable JS and disable any ad blocker" to me for a long time [13:20:19] and I assume neither is necessarily the problem [13:21:10] I'm familiar with those errors browsing in general but half the time I just say no and work around it because there's a good chance js is not needed and like hell for the most part I'd consider dropping content blockers [13:23:19] Indie io is already owned by private equity [13:28:08] they are? [13:44:48] There's always other ways to help ngl [14:17:19] I'm Chinese-Indonesian but I'm looking for anyone from Austria and/or Germany [14:18:31] If so, please do direct message (i.e. on my account) [14:23:58] @Discord Moderators [14:56:43] [1/2] Today's cute thing: urcauz, my ally's cat [14:56:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1478768156175761532/image.png?ex=69a999aa&is=69a8482a&hm=2b285d1c3d98ebe44d3eb759e2ddb9ca71aa35206165d05bf4dc42ba9f7240ec& [15:06:16] <_arawynn, replying to letsgo3942> What specifically are you looking for? [15:12:47] [1/3] I wish. [15:12:48] [2/3] To pet. [15:12:48] [3/3] The cat. [15:13:19] That aside, I really wish I was able to donate to Miraheze 😭 [15:22:41] Please don't worry if you can't afford to donate. You can also Volunteer though. [15:29:27] [1/3] Yeah… I'd probably make a terrible volunteer lmao 😅 [15:29:27] [2/3] Too easily distracted, plus sharing a computer with like at least five other people, plus crippling fears of messing up (to such a point that the only wiki pages I can edit without getting a panic attack are sandbox pages, or pages on my wikis, or, on TV Tropes, Troper Walls and my Troper page without triggering a panic attack)… [15:29:27] [3/3] If I spontaneously gain the ability to take money from fictional worlds, though, I'm definitely going to take as much as I can and donate it, but… don't know how the conversion rates would work between real world currencies and fictional world currencies, haha~ [15:47:06] mreoawwww [15:51:19] im pretty sure its like a romance scam thing [15:59:44] [1/2] > I'd probably make a terrible volunteer [15:59:44] [2/2] > Too easily distracted [16:00:43] being too easily distracted to do what you're meant to do and instead spending all time on wiki would make you a great volunteer [16:02:27] 👀 [17:00:44] this is literally me btw [17:06:59] [1/2] well, if were showing cat photos then why not show mine [17:06:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1478800938364829789/IMG-20251108-WA0023.jpg?ex=69a9b832&is=69a866b2&hm=89a68481e18bd34dda267e8588dbb8be5fce920e8d33c24924a3ecd25f2c5e9c& [17:08:51] left is evil and sinister, right has no idea what's going on [17:10:52] they're both brother and sister and are STUPID [17:21:39] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1353384214354985112/1384503296961806387/togif_3.gif [17:26:48] man i should get a cat one day [17:27:14] <_arawynn> the one on the left looks a lot like my sister's cat [18:20:02] Well, im just asking their favorite series [18:33:46] ditto [18:41:24] frfr [18:41:39] alas, i have a $23/month happiness subscription 😔 [19:03:41] so much for "money cant buy you happiness" amiright [19:04:03] frfr [19:04:20] i also have a ~$85/two years subscription to chemically castrate myself [19:04:53] [1/2] "money can't buy you happiness" [19:04:53] [2/2] gender-affirming surgeries: :3c [19:34:12] My social grant's like. ZAR2300 something, but just paying Internet bill (R430) and groceries pretty much brought that down to R0 😭 [20:36:28] we dont even need money for surgery in canada [20:36:37] just a lot of time [21:01:49] ow [21:01:54] yay! [21:02:21] you can get it paid for here if you go through monash health [21:02:42] waitlist is approx 2-3y, and you can only have it done through aussie surgeons (total of four iirc) [21:15:39] wait times are from 1 month to 4 years depending on some factors in canada [21:15:48] one month?????? [21:15:49] theres no requirement for canadian surgeons though [21:15:58] im moving [21:16:22] i'll just go to the vet and aggressively pee on everything until they spay me [21:16:35] would you enjoy spending 23497823782314789 bajilion dollars a month for toronto rent [21:17:00] depends on the operation mostly [21:17:10] i'll just live in the walls of your favourite politicians [21:18:08] shit thats good i should try that [21:18:55] oh [21:19:01] what's that short tho? orchi? [21:19:15] what about behated ones to mess w then [21:20:31] you can live in pierre polievre's house [21:21:32] that was the implication [21:22:26] actually wait no its 1-3 years, but hey at least the ontario government is obligated to pay for a lot of stuff [21:23:09] https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/ohip-coverage-penis-sparing-vaginoplasty [21:24:00] and again, no need to be in canada [21:27:18] oh [21:27:48] FUCK YEAH, i can have both [21:33:05] two is better than one as the saying goes [21:33:08] wait does that even apply [21:33:16] since theres only one of each [21:54:11] [1/2] https://discord.com/channels/951501892553424917/951501893157408810/1453153591849386056 [21:54:11] [2/2] Alex cited it as one reason to no longer put so much effort in wikigg [22:32:55] fuck it gets two of each [22:38:19] i hate thinking how that would work in everyday life [22:40:02] same lol [22:40:07] one each is good for me [22:47:05] anyways new topic i put way too much water into this rice and im praying the seasoning can fix it [22:50:08] it sort of saved it but the rice still tastes like ass [22:50:36] theres like these hard rice pieces that crumble into crumbs [23:00:16] Cosmos not pulling its site logo from $wgLogos is so annoying ugh [23:09:30] It doesnt do that? I thought it does use that first and then falls back to other configs. I forgot how I made it apparently lol. [23:10:26] oh turns out it does [23:10:32] https://github.com/wikimedia/mediawiki-skins-Cosmos/blob/3f3faf8c3755ad311075bdeac1f8aeb4368af04c/includes/CosmosConfig.php#L149C3-L151C48 [23:10:42] evidently i'm an idiot and checking for $wgLogo instead of $wgLogos! [23:11:26] $wgLogo is a myth perpertrated by the WikiTide Foundation [23:11:41] the great wikitide cabal!!!! [23:25:12] but it's also literally me? wait are we the same person?