[02:56:56] [1/6] what do you guys like better: [02:56:56] [2/6] - a full width skin, that takes all of the screen, [02:56:56] [3/6] -# ex: Monobook, Vector 2010 [02:56:57] [4/6] OR [02:56:57] [5/6] - a fixed width, that does not change width [02:56:57] [6/6] -# ex: Timeless, Cosmos [03:05:40] fixed width [03:06:26] looking across the entire screen to read is uh [03:06:34] something on the eyes [03:06:51] AGREED [03:07:06] something that fandom did right was with their fixed width skin [03:29:01] Bad, it is bad on eyes [03:29:10] Nobody has time for that [03:41:05] Extremely left field, but I feel like Nathan Fillion is visibly aging into Neil Flynn. This does not reduce the time traveler conspiracy. 😄 [05:22:42] Honestly it depends on the wiki for me, even if there's not much if any styling on it lol [08:11:59] this is all i wanna be doing rn but instead im forced to do stupid shit like fix code older than jesus that somehow is still allowed to run https://bsky.app/profile/sharkcat.bsky.social/post/3mgkg4ye6gc2m [08:12:52] are you porting oasis to mw 1.46? [08:13:20] no im touching the crusty extension known as SocialProfile [08:13:47] my condolences [08:34:54] https://agelesslinux.org/ [08:36:35] is this a shitpost [08:39:35] love this guy [10:15:54] ??? [11:28:08] oh nice my week timeout was removed [11:31:26] make it tell everyone to use UserProfileV2 [11:58:44] my favourite extension [11:58:51] idk what's worse wikibase or socialprofile [11:59:01] both are unbearable to work with [11:59:38] at least wikibase has seen a living person in the past 5 seconds [11:59:58] socialprofile got thrown outside in the rain and nobody gives a fuck [12:02:26] true — socialprofile is something too many wikis rely on to get rid of but also so incredibly outdated [12:04:10] Doing the lord's work 🙏 [12:04:49] I'm still yet to figure out how to make the ridiculous containers it needs work with s3 [12:04:59] it's probably fine I just haven't looked into it [12:05:21] obviously you should just use swift so you can yoink our config [12:05:34] Works fine for me with S3 and was built with that in mind [12:05:47] Pebkac 😉 [12:06:33] I'd rather hack together garage into working [12:06:42] swift is too complicated for my monkey brain [12:06:45] I'm not running wikivy here [12:07:45] [1/15] ```php [12:07:45] [2/15] $wgFileBackends[] = [ [12:07:45] [3/15] 'class' => 'AmazonS3FileBackend', [12:07:45] [4/15] 'name' => 'telepedia-userprofile', [12:07:46] [5/15] 'region' => 'eu-west-2', [12:07:46] [6/15] 'wikiId' => 'global', [12:07:46] [7/15] 'lockManager' => 'nullLockManager', [12:07:47] [8/15] 'connTimeout' => 10, [12:07:47] [9/15] 'reqTimeout' => 900, [12:07:47] [10/15] 'containerPaths' => [ [12:07:48] [11/15] "global-upv2avatars" => "static.telepedia.net/upv2avatars", [12:07:48] [12/15] ] [12:07:48] [13/15] ]; [12:07:49] [14/15] ``` [12:07:49] [15/15] But ymmv [12:08:05] curious to see how long it will last after coco got the boot [12:08:15] I heard coco is restarting his farm [12:08:19] with meowy as his new tech [12:08:30] in other words it may not be restarting [12:09:05] so if fandom is a fire type, miraheze is a poison type, wikivy is a plant type, skywiki was an air type, WO is a water type [12:09:06] whats left [12:09:09] ty will add to my notes list [12:09:44] energy/lightning/electricity of some type? [12:10:21] dibs on thunderwiki [12:10:31] he'll have to think of something else now [12:11:14] I think his original idea was wikiverse which is kinda gravity/space [12:11:22] but his best attempts were using backups of skywiki to create it up until now [12:11:28] oh my god that was literally my next idea (in terms of types) [12:11:57] dibs on celestia the my little pony x cosmicalpha fusion [12:12:11] you can't dibs all the farm names [12:12:17] leave some for the rest of us [12:12:25] oh anyone but coco can use them [12:12:38] brb trademarking them [12:12:48] lmao [12:12:49] fair enough [12:13:21] https://meta.cloudwiki.us/wiki/Main_Page 😭 dear god [12:13:25] this is just a clone of skywiki [12:13:35] might have to send a dmca [12:26:49] I mean how many of these wikis actually use any features other than profile pictures [12:27:04] True true [12:51:18] btw does userprofilev2 have a way to do batch requests. https://battlecats.miraheze.org/w/api.php?action=query&format=json&list=queryuserprofilev2&formatversion=2&user_name=TheWWRNerdGuy works fine but doing that for every user who's commented on a page would create a lot of requests [12:54:34] [1/2] ahh vibes [12:54:35] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1480549356691259463/image.png?ex=69b01489&is=69aec309&hm=6b1603c816dfc278141c809d5d7d431cb5c0c65d4648114ec74772fb71987061& [12:55:40] No. But as a hack you can rely on the image always being avatar_userid and fallback to the default if it doesn't exist [12:55:51] But anyone is free to make a PR to add that if they so wish [12:59:29] [1/2] that's what we're doing, but the image could be `.png`, `.jpg`, `.jpeg` etc. which definitely adds up (plus we also need to add fallbacks to old SocialProfile avatars) [12:59:29] [2/2] ig I could see about making a PR though [13:00:49] I started a rewrite last week so I can add it to the list ig [13:02:23] telepedia is a electricity type or whatever [13:04:09] [1/2] 🥹 [13:04:10] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1480551768466395279/Screenshot_20260309-100351.png?ex=69b016c8&is=69aec548&hm=149e0c41638a247b73e7b922ac4a0113a243ae388b07f0191a1885db1dba2552& [13:05:37] seems like a mobile issue [13:05:43] Try requesting desktop view [13:05:45] it works for me there [13:05:57] what is minerva calling vector functions lmfao [13:08:30] coco had meowy do it and it's basically cobbled from some database dump of skywiki which nobody authorised the use of [13:14:42] minerva is a disgusting skin i prefer citizen for mobile lol [13:14:47] way more user friendly [13:20:24] minerva works for wikipedia imo, but if you aren't going for the Wikipedia look then it's a bad idea [13:23:34] I just don't like it lol [13:29:52] I think minerva looks okay [13:30:36] but if there's one thing that kinda bothers me, there are a few limitations, like not having a system message for the navigation inside the hamburger menu (you'd have to use js to add items instead) [13:47:15] [1/2] Re Skywiki ^ [13:47:15] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1480562613296562267/Screenshot_from_2026-03-09_13-47-02.png?ex=69b020e2&is=69aecf62&hm=bee087f19037025c5c41d4ede94664b7e11f5cdeb184e6db8dde04c7b6c7f0f4& [14:43:18] Someone made a gregtech wiki [15:02:07] That's intentional, the domain points to the WO CDN rn and until further resources are available the skywiki vm is stopped [15:03:13] Huh why? [15:08:04] skywiki got shut down [15:18:09] is this how i learn skywiki shut down [15:39:50] Honistly, the small farms have their uses but I feel "accept any wiki" is not a good idea for a farm - a. Lots of growing, b. what fi someone hosts something illigal [15:42:29] That doesn't really make sense - what's to stop someone requesting a wiki on Miraheze and then hosting something illegal after it's approved? [15:42:47] indeed [15:46:14] I think Miraheze seems better managed for one thing - with the small farms I do not feel the same [15:52:17] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1480594079195725916/acceptmywiki.png?ex=69b03e30&is=69aeecb0&hm=8654787ef6cfb94063037ba75cc7956cc6a9a23d4100e01308e59f01b6d1b1e2& [15:52:47] ehh miraheze have to watch 22k wikis [15:53:43] they have more volunteers but also a massive scale [15:53:56] why not directly add a fixed, static url for a certain uid's pfp, which redirects to the actual jpg/jpeg/png? [15:54:03] then you don't need the query at all [15:54:19] wouldn't that cause issues with private wikis [15:54:28] images have to go through img_auth.php for private wikis [15:55:46] i thought it redirects to the actual image file which goes through img_auth [15:56:09] the url doesn't load the image itself [15:56:16] that might work then [15:56:23] and another static url with username can also serve as a redirect [15:56:38] then you don't really need any query to get a user's pfp url [15:56:43] just concat strings [15:57:01] I honistly think a lot of wiki farms are quite short lived anyway [15:57:38] I guess the main issue is funding, and volunteers [16:02:59] yeah funding is a problem [16:03:18] I cover a lot of the WO bill personally rn however our fundraiser is going alright considering the size [16:06:17] How do you think Miraheze can get more volunteers? [16:06:55] so i have this metaphorical van [16:08:10] I know Miraheze needs more volunteers, but sadly I cannot volunteer (I prefer to do only paid work) [16:08:27] I guess carry on growing and someone will appeal [16:08:49] I would offer my hand in tech but I'm not in a position right now [16:09:06] There are however some budding mediawiki people who've requested access to beta [16:09:08] which I'm hopeful about [16:09:14] mmmm smaller wikifarms 😋 [16:09:21] miraheze eats them [16:10:34] i think its great that there's alternatives but it oh so conflicts with the feeling of wasting time setting up wikifarms that are functionally clones and are extremely dependent on miraheze for updates [16:11:01] i will give a high five to the next non-profit wikifarm that doesn't use managewiki [16:11:42] I'm looking to reduce dependence of WO on mh but it starts by me actually setting up infra that won't break if one vm dies [16:12:20] im so glad to not be in infra cause that feels like constant bomb defusal [16:12:43] I don’t appreciate farms that are functionally “Miraheze but x” because if you’re not happy with how Miraheze conducts x then why not get involved to change it for the better? [16:13:16] 200% it's "i never bothered to get involved and instead i want instant power" [16:13:21] Basicly, what Agent says, most of these farms are "Miraheze, but X" , and most of these will not even last long [16:13:39] _ looks at WikiGrid which is 99% a clone of Miraheze_ [16:13:49] I'm the opposite, I want to get away from mediawiki and instead work on infra [16:13:55] much more interesting even if it means more sleepless nights [16:14:12] looks at WikiVy which is 100% a clone of Miraheze [16:14:16] you should try running something other than a mediawiki farm then LMAO [16:14:23] nah I like mediawiki [16:14:34] I just don't want to debug php errors [16:14:36] I personly jst stuck with a MediaWiki, no manage wiki, all manual set up [16:14:45] Technically, it could be construed the other way around for some parts since WikiGrid runs an older version of puppet code which was later merged into Miraheze via WikiTide [16:15:06] but WikiGrid is mostly a containment site for some interesting Miraheze wikis [16:15:06] I would open source the WO puppet code but I've left all manner of production secrets and tokens in there [16:15:11] didn't even bother with private heiradata [16:15:14] AFIAK WikiIvy, Cloudwiki, and so on are just clones [16:15:17] I took the lazy option because I just wanted it getting done [16:15:27] https://giphy.com/gifs/silly-goofy-goose-0geEIktOAMxBky4dgW [16:15:29] technical debt is gonna bite your ass off [16:15:56] every wrong turn you take comes back tenfold later [16:15:56] I feel this is very true [16:16:13] What sort of wikis? [16:16:41] I have to agree there, but I do think many will noty last long [16:16:49] some of the -ball wikis are on there, for example [16:18:09] Yes, I guess them having their own place is for the best [16:20:52] Hostly though, what was the point of skywiki? [16:21:17] ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ [16:21:59] “Miraheze, but x” where x equals “Cocopuff running it but also being the main LTA on it” [16:22:10] yeah it will be redone eventually [16:22:28] these sound like the words of someone who won't eventually redo it [16:23:02] :Pray: [16:23:04] well I’m going to end up having to deal with it anyway as the sole technical contributor to it [17:00:51] wow that name triggers some nostalgia [17:04:19] why do ltas even lta [17:04:33] who knows [17:04:36] ive seen like some people do stuff like that for over a decade [17:04:56] he's sadly still around but I believe he's changed his name now to "moviemonster", a throwback to filmpedia I suppose [17:08:34] decade? lol [17:08:43] seen two decades, yeah [17:08:53] entire life of concept of wiki, filled with trolling [17:09:07] boy, 20 years has passed, damn grow up [17:43:37] we 100% want miraheze but bilibili players are allowed [17:44:12] can be told only from how many ppl followed T14069 [17:44:23] can be told only from how many ppl followed T14069 [17:44:39] how do you play a video sharing site [17:44:43] oh you mean play videos from there [17:45:05] [[phab:T14069]] [17:45:05] https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/phab:T14069 [17:45:06]

[17:45:12] i even remembered the ticket id [17:45:26] i mean subscribe by follow [17:45:51] Anything can be a game if you hallucinate try hard enough. [17:46:10] give me 12 more hours of sleeplessness and we're good to go [17:46:36] Or an image proxy for `*.hdslb.com` would also be nice. Still short of playing videos but caching images would be a good first step. [17:46:53] I know that VLW also wants this and is still showing placeholder images for now. [17:47:16] bilibili is actually the one singular request that isn't a single-wiki purpose request [17:47:34] everything else can wait for the advent of per-wiki csps [17:48:30]