[06:54:18] [1/2] i didn't know the donation banner breaks my cosmos skin (i styled the sitenotice to make it similar to fandom's but the donation one is so huge) [06:54:19] [2/2] https://xyy.miraheze.org/?useskin=cosmos [08:17:22] wikipedia also has csp now? after their accident on mar 6 [08:17:38] [1/2] this is interesting [08:17:38] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1481929214784700457/image.png?ex=69b519a1&is=69b3c821&hm=f92138cdfbcac6ab6969cf184e75d65cf7e65fae41f317db675ce0f2c894859e& [08:47:37] supposedly thats exactly what they were testing [10:02:27] Yes [13:10:04] csp? what happened on march 6th? [13:39:11] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation/Product_and_Technology/Product_Safety_and_Integrity/March_2026_User_Script_Incident [13:50:15] It always had -report-only for years [15:53:36] its snowing [15:53:41] its supposed to be spring [15:53:46] why wont winter screw off [15:53:55] https://tenor.com/view/bunny-spin-cute-rabbit-gif-17536368388839637050 [16:15:51] figure you guys might like this: https://weirdgloop.org/blog/clankers [16:20:19] Yeah... All the things that we're dealing with too. Nice writeup! [16:47:17] I knew it was bad, but I didn't realize it was so bad it's lot like a ddos... Thank you Miraheze tech for dealing with all this [16:58:59] For basically all practical purposes it is a DDoS, just enacted by some of the most powerful tech corporations in the world and with the goal of gaining data or smt [18:47:13] buying 10 cf rules for 5 gp [18:47:52] 5 gold pieces? [18:48:47] hope i can kill a few goblins before he responds [19:10:47] We should be collobrate on what we are mitigating and stuff [19:11:13] We definitely wanna know the good and bad of mitigating dodgy traffic [19:14:32] i'll send you an invite to the little server i have with a few other wiki folks, feel free to add some miraheze tech people [19:23:44] global ban is the most severe punishment, then > global lock > global block, right? [19:25:23] Eeeeeh [19:25:44] Fandom's way of stopping this seems the most effective (login barrier) [19:25:59] Global ban is a policy measure formally prohibiting a person, a human, from using the air [19:26:10] Locks and g blocks are used to enforce that [19:26:17] Yep, need major CSS modifications for that though [19:26:23] CSS & JS. [19:26:27] the login barrier "works" but it kills the editing community too [19:26:31] which is not really a good tradeoff imo [19:26:50] I don't think so, most editors log in to edit anyway, unless I'm misunderstanding something [19:27:21] > I did a small analysis and found that contributions from new users across Fandom are down about 40% after Fandom’s changes that hid “internal pages” from the >95% of readers that don’t have accounts. [19:27:51] Ahh, it does kill fandom's editing community. [19:28:11] I know other small wikis have taken that route (from my own experience https://wiki.eastkingdom.org) but yeah it sucks [19:28:18] [1/2] i would rather explode than make anyone login for anything mandatorily, that's plain silly [19:28:18] [2/2] at best you'll get a cf challenge from us every so often [19:28:33] Yeah, I was thinking about that too [19:30:24] ah that makes sense. i noticed Global bans says “The user must have persistently disrupted Miraheze Spaces and/or two or more wikis” while User accounts policy mentions “If your use of multiple accounts facilitates abuse of one or more wikis … locked” [19:31:22] There’s a fuzzy and sometimes distinction between global bans, office bans, service bans etc [19:33:30] Currently our operating precedent is Stewards (and GAs) posses the psuedo authority to implement services bans, usually against users that are only bad actors or such [19:33:30] So basically global ban [19:33:30] our wiki has an lta who also abuses on fandom (10+ fandom wikis afaik). if fandom were miraheze they must have been globally banned [19:34:03] Distinctions are weird [19:36:55] What pix said [19:39:58] my personal server got hit so hard that i had to blackhole both http/https, and the dns record at the same time [19:40:01] otherwise: [19:46:41] what’s sudoedit [19:47:06] editing a file with sudo (i.e. as root unless you -u otherwise) [19:47:20] main advantage is that it runs the editor as your user, so config stays the same [19:47:27] Oh so basically sudo nano (or vi) [19:53:56] [1/2] One of these things is not like others [19:53:57] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1482104447550099648/image0.jpg?ex=69b5bcd4&is=69b46b54&hm=3a7adfede383fe914cf33a3add7146c44b0bfc3673681f26942f7e94528c0658& [19:55:21] i love ads [19:55:50] Same site pops up for Zelle [19:56:02] ughhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh [20:58:27] <1nkygirl> Hoi [22:05:48] just got an 85% on some english poem assignment i made in 10 minutes withput any effort into it [22:06:00] im pretty sure my teacher half-assed the grading