[00:38:14] Remember, you can still say you put toast in a toaster, it's just not recommended. [01:14:37] Humans learn from their mistakes. [01:14:41] I cannot. [01:14:45] I make no mistakes. [02:24:33] I wonder who made bread and thought "we'll cook this again" and then made toast [02:28:17] I wonder when did they know to stop baking bread? [02:28:31] Before it becomes a loaf of toast [02:41:01] Interesting yes [02:41:02] Like [02:41:17] You gotta get the timing right down to the minute? Too long and it'll toast [02:41:20] Too less and it's soggy [02:41:35] Do you think before they invented the bread they accidentally made toast? [02:41:47] Then had to back track "wait we missed a step" [03:47:23] trial and error be pretty amazing spanned over hundreds of thousands of years [07:26:26] Wait what? What do they do to get you guys 90% of the workload, if the details is allowed to be shared that is... [07:40:13] I'd guess it's stuff like underage users? [11:02:33] most active wiki + topic that inherently attracts younger users than most wikis do, leads to a whole lot of GDPRing [11:03:43] *is my guess [11:04:11] + the entire topic of the wiki is ai slop [11:05:09] I don't think that's inherently related to T&S workload although it probably does lead to the activity [15:19:20] I gotta a cutesy wutsey ear muffins [15:20:03] Oh dude…the CVT feed is like 90% that wiki [15:20:04] And like [15:20:23] I REGRET ever looking there at times who knew brainrot could be so messed up [15:50:28] You all have it mostly right [15:50:54] It generates a lot of UA reports, some founded, some not [15:51:11] They also love love love their alts over there [15:51:26] So anytime we need to remove a user, it usually requires diving through a rat's nest of alt accounts [15:51:46] Which in turn drives a lot of range blocks, which then in turn drives a lot of users reaching out because they can't sign up for an account [15:52:09] So yeah, lots of work that creates work that creates work [16:23:46] why don't you guys just stop hosting them then? [16:44:25] Because without a clear content policy violation (e.g. hate speech, clear diversion from approved scope into unapproved activities, sole purpose of doxxing), it requires consensus either between community or volunteers. [16:44:31] And deplatforming is a high bar to clear. [17:03:00] [1/2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kira_Buckland [17:03:00] [2/2] I like how Kira Buckland uploads their own pictures to Wikipedia [17:24:12] https://tenor.com/view/good-for-her-arrested-development-lucille-bluth-gif-27543686 [17:28:42] [1/2] Why is there random JSON in the comments of her photo file [17:28:43] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1492577147456459023/image.png?ex=69dbd64a&is=69da84ca&hm=f907cbc2fa906f8813bf859bdf4dd3c665695691baabeaf10583c87c1728c832& [17:33:59] Though some of the pages on that wiki….they ought a just a mark is 18+ 😭 [19:23:43] -# wait ain't there a policy against celebrities/people editing their own wiki due to potential objective bias, or am I thinking of something else? [19:33:33] Yeah but celebrities posting pictures of themselves under a free license is probably fair game [20:37:34] We actually very much appreciate when folks upload high quality portraits under usable free licenses [20:38:13] That’s why https://www.wikiportraits.org/ exists [21:13:12] Wikipedia has a lot of trouble getting good pictures of people because all the good pictures are copyrighted. Contributions in this area are often appreciated. I think it would be controversial if the person in question tried to personally control what picture appeared [21:16:23] [1/2] shitty picture from a concert 23 years ago vs studio picture of subject uploaded by subject [21:16:24] [2/2] who would win? [21:18:17] Are they both available under a license permitted by Wikipedia or Wikimedia Commons [21:19:13] Every now and again I look up the names of people I’ve photographed at work to see if they get articles because then I can donate my pictures [21:19:25] So far only one but they had a much higher quality picture instead [21:19:55] Anyway I feel like celebrities uploading their own pictures is just a minor step away from official portraits. [21:52:31] Wikipedia also uses official political portraits [21:54:24] Yeah that’s my point [21:54:33] I think I worded it weirdly tho [23:27:14] Guy Standing sitting [23:32:05] There’s a programmer whose image is his hugging bozo the clown [23:32:09] It’s pretty great