[01:37:26] Me with no critical thinking skills being told to think harder: [01:37:29] Literally 1984. [01:57:15] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1536191668963770388/image0.gif?ex=6a7a817a&is=6a792ffa&hm=5e5bee21e13375645aa33419e1c1e55a47d360b8194f1af991214fef0e8b46ab& [01:57:23] Wild book, wild movie [01:59:33] @notaracham: which version of the movie is better? [02:00:39] reviews seem to suggest 1984 version of 1984 film is better, but I don't know, I feel like the 1956 version might be better. Wondering which one I should start with [02:13:30] I just find it very fun that they released movie 1984 in calendar 1984 [02:13:42] I cannot speak on which is better [02:14:19] Been too long for me to make an earnest assessment [02:21:22] Its pretty awesome in my opinion. I liked it. [02:22:03] I call "AI generated imagery" to be more geekier. [02:35:05] valid! i mean, this guy even has a different spelling of his name with different capitalization? [02:35:15] ngl didn't know there were two [08:23:08] no cap name ftw [09:02:31] How do I spell your name? [09:02:39] Lowbrok? [09:02:42] Loobrok? [09:02:50] πŸ₯Ή [09:05:12] It's already spelt? [09:05:26] That's the advantage of written communication. [09:06:35] Unless you mean how do you get the Γ° letter? [09:08:20] omg I'm famous [09:09:44] lol, that is funny [09:10:00] how do i speak raidarr's name [09:10:10] the first part i'm pretty sure it's german(?) [09:10:44] I spell it in clipboard [09:11:04] Yes. [09:11:06] first bit is german [09:11:15] the whole thing combined is borderline gibberish [09:11:21] No no. I know Schrodinger. The cat in a box meme. [09:11:22] linguistically [09:11:25] But not Loobrok. [09:11:30] Is like, Loo in Waterloo. [09:11:32] With Brok. [09:11:35] So like. Loobox. [09:11:37] Right? [09:11:37] is it loa or loo... [09:11:48] Loobox. Brok spelt as Box. [09:11:50] Loo as Loo. [09:11:51] I've always known it literally by its spelling [09:12:05] So LoobroK or LooBOX? [09:12:17] Like, do you say Brok. [09:12:20] Or Box? [09:12:48] ngl the easiest way is to ignore it and accept it personally [09:12:50] Loobrok is uh. Loo-b-rok. [09:12:52] Right? [09:13:01] really this is a question for @.labster, he conceived that one [09:13:06] I don't want to accidentally misspell somebody's name. [09:13:13] I'm just ay cool [09:13:17] It happened before and it brought many shame to me. [09:13:29] Gotcha. That's awesome. [09:13:30] my name is mangled so much in the real world I cannot take the subject seriously [09:13:35] i'd just call him raidarr as i have always been done [09:13:50] Sounds like you have a non-english name. [09:13:55] Don't worry, so do I. [09:14:01] I don't think its overly complicated [09:14:02] People butcher my name a lot. [09:14:04] but apparently it is [09:14:09] i have an non english name as an vietnamese [09:14:09] I don't hate it. [09:14:22] The Vietnamese population is increasing. [09:14:28] but its also one of those that changes by spelling, how you put it and so on [09:14:30] Just how many of us are there in Miraheze discord? [09:14:42] oh you tell me, they call me pretty insane stuff somtimes [09:14:43] Actually. Don't answer that. [09:14:49] for privacy reasons we will probably never know [09:14:54] i know of another vietnamese who is also an translator on meta [09:15:04] Wowza. [09:15:20] miraheze pulls people out of the woodwork from the strangest places sometimes [09:15:24] I say endearingly [09:15:29] I agree. [09:15:34] I came from a pretty weird place. [09:15:51] By weird I mean I wanted to make a wiki but not really. I actually only saved my cooking recipes on said wiki. [09:15:57] i came to miraheze from the skywiki incident if i remember right [09:16:05] So technically its not a wiki but my personal cooking recipe storage. [09:16:11] πŸ˜΅β€πŸ’« [09:16:17] probably, that's when you branched out of skywiki awareness in general [09:16:36] at least you used it, I came to make a wiki I dropped in like 5 minutes after it was made [09:16:56] and then I made a string of wikis that I also dropped, I have a horrible wiki foundership record [09:17:18] [1/2] pretty funny how my story of being here is like [09:17:18] [2/2] "yeah i joined skywiki and helped then, then i found out the leader of it sucks ass so i brought people to take em down and then joined wo and mh later" [09:17:34] if i ever get my own section at miraheze monthly it's going to be hell of a story [09:17:38] and from the requests you could hardly tell I would do little better than the people we twist arms of because they have a vague request [09:18:20] so on the principle subject matter of miraheze I'm a washout [09:18:24] but people made me steward anyway [09:18:26] yeah i also have bad records of dedicating myself to something as wel [09:18:53] also not the most attentive to the areas I do have notable local access [09:18:55] raidarr is raidarr, so i have no complaints of that [09:19:39] Damn. [09:20:03] I mean. If we talk about the track record. I got way too many deleted (I requested the deletion). [09:20:08] So mine is probably worse. [09:23:02] Damn. This sounds awesome. [09:23:08] You should write a biography. [09:23:25] >I have no idea. I'm just a very supportive person. [09:23:47] maybe, i've done quite a few things i can be proud of sometimes [09:24:38] My proudest achievement is that I drank expired milk and my stomach didn't hurt. [09:24:41] 😎 [09:25:06] Well. It expired by 1 hour (it was 1 AM). [09:25:06] not really something to be proud of [09:25:32] and seriously...why did you wait for the milk to expired [09:25:40] well at least it was 1 hour, could've gotten worse [09:26:12] [1/2] 1: Hungover. [09:26:12] [2/2] 2: MIDNIGHT SNACK. [09:26:36] Listen. I just got home from work at 12 AM. I was drunk as heck. [09:26:43] Food spoilage isn't an immediate binary, so it likely wouldn't have been very spoilt if spoilt at all. Those dates usually err on the side of caution. [09:26:45] So in my wise arse. I drank expired milk in the fridge. [09:26:59] Anyhow, I LIVED! [09:27:21] pretty sure medication is like that too [09:27:21] On other news... I should eat that tin of crackers I have on the shelf. [09:27:24] Pretty sure its uh, [09:27:27] 20 years old. [09:27:30] But its in a can. [09:27:31] πŸ’€ [09:27:35] So its impossible for it to be damaged. [09:27:44] It's canned crackers. [09:27:47] Crackers in a can. [09:27:53] that can of crackers [09:27:55] is older then me. [09:27:59] i'm almost 18 y/o. [09:28:18] How in the crapper do you have more lore than me. Whose older than you. [09:28:22] πŸ₯Ή [09:28:36] I guess I haven't got my character development arc yet. [09:28:46] Keyword: YET. [09:28:58] if you do nothing, then you'll never get any lore [09:29:37] True... [09:29:41] Nothing ever happens. [09:29:45] For me. At least. [09:29:50] I just work here. [09:30:05] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1536305629793230858/FB_IMG_1783047979726.jpg?ex=6a7aeb9d&is=6a799a1d&hm=ee7cc48f2fbbc6b5ac501eb323b25b19ca2ca68e82b733fd2460e4e8725f251a& [09:33:08] time to make UBI a thing so that we can spend our free time editing wikis [09:34:13] Would UBI allow me to feed my crippling addiction to overly expensive electronics? [09:34:24] no [09:34:53] but at least you'll have food, water, and shelter covered [09:35:02] what is an ubi [09:47:10] <.labster, replying to raidarr> It's just a pun on [[w:Ragnar Lodbrok]] of course. The Γ° is pronounced as in Norse. [09:47:10] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ragnar_Lodbrok [09:47:11] [09:49:12] <.labster, replying to justanotherdarkmodeuser> Universal Basic Income. (mostly theoretical) government program that gives a welfare payment to everyone to get a minimum level of living. [09:49:15] But I already own my own place. [09:49:24] And I can afford food and pay my bills. [09:49:35] I just can't afford my crippling addiction to expensive stuff. [09:50:26] you'll still need a job for that then πŸ˜… [09:50:34] Also known as communism [09:52:31] <.labster> Expensive things are just a shortcut to happiness that can never bring true fulfillment, that's why it's an addiction. Donate to Miraheze instead for true happiness. [09:53:31] ah yes the classic miraheze plug from one of the board members... [09:53:38] I'd rather be crying in a Lamborghini than a mini cooper [09:53:41] i have $400 to spend just to get estradiol in me [09:53:44] 😭 [09:56:21] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1536312238351192094/FB_IMG_1744424186623.jpg?ex=6a7af1c4&is=6a79a044&hm=2d24fcb8f1d1e866555c1870a8176a633b29b8c90ff1beffb2983325f1c66c77& [09:56:34] haha [09:56:44] I don't know man. I kinda need them to make money. [09:57:30] [1/3] My friend: "You work so much. You must have a lot of money." [09:57:31] [2/3] Said money: [09:57:31] [3/3] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1536312524868296734/Screenshot_2026-08-10-16-57-05-54_3aea4af51f236e4932235fdada7d1643.jpg?ex=6a7af209&is=6a79a089&hm=60c646441c1b0f9af567158285baa1683622221a01a21645e5412d553fe957b7& [09:57:41] You need to spend money to MAKE money. CJ!!! [09:59:00] [1/2] @elitericefarmer meanwhile, in my country... [09:59:00] [2/2] https://www.reddit.com/r/lebanon/comments/1vjthp8/we_need_to_protest/ [10:00:16] government members raised their salaries from $3k/month to $5k/month with the stroke of a pen, while most workers here make $500-700 per month or less, with prices nearly equivalent to us prices [10:01:37] so, zimbabwe salaries with dubai prices basically [10:02:04] <.labster> How do people have housing? Apartments are like $1500/month, so even 1/3 of that is the entire income. [10:02:27] me, personally? living with my parents [10:02:45] it's not like we have this culture where we move out of our parents' house at 18 [10:03:10] Vietnam is relatively accessible... [10:03:14] I used relatively. [10:03:24] Cause things have been going into the bad side of thing. [10:03:35] they paid off 2 houses [10:04:07] I bought my own house by working my arse off so I suppose housing is still relatively accessible. [10:04:23] Recently things have been taking the turn for worse. But our government is trying to unfuck the situation. [10:04:37] if i had to rent an apartment, it's not great, but nowhere near as bad as usa [10:04:44] Pretty much. [10:04:48] $100-300 per month [10:04:55] Vietnam is also not having it as far as the United States. [10:05:17] vietnam is generally better then the us for most things [10:05:21] Around uh, 200-400 dollars if I do the conversion. [10:05:27] A fellow realist. [10:05:37] Sorry. I have uh. Bad taste of fellow Vietnamese on the internet. [10:05:40] If you know, you know. [10:05:56] I have us citizenship too, but i'd never move there permanently [10:05:57] Glad to see you're someone competent enough to know to think critically. [10:06:02] not under the current conditions at least [10:06:34] my country has amazing food, culture, and scenery [10:06:44] but our economy and politics are incredibly corrupt [10:06:59] yeah, it's important that you don't lump the minority to the majority [10:07:03] Ehhh. That sounds like MOSTA COUNTRIES. [10:07:21] true, but ours are like on a whole other level [10:07:35] True true. I'm just very jaded. Besides i don't interact with other Vietnamese much. Especially on discord. [10:07:43] I do irl (I live here. After all). [10:07:50] Just not on the internet. [10:07:53] several years ago was the beginning of the liquidity crisis [10:08:05] which is among, if not the worst financial crises in modern history [10:08:40] well i hope you guys don't live in the hell called the us, sure they get most of the benefits from the companies but the gov is quite bad [10:08:41] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebanese_liquidity_crisis [10:08:51] considering ||school shootings|| are still a thing [10:08:58] and the job market there sucks [10:09:08] that's everywhere tbh [10:09:30] pretty sure in vietnam it's better, my older brother already got an job offer even tho he's still in uni [10:09:56] maybe, idk [10:09:57] something called an internship [10:10:03] that they want to hire him full time [10:10:03] but globally, on average, it's bad right now [10:10:15] esp for tech yeah [10:10:34] god I'm unlucky πŸ˜… [10:10:36] The Vietnam job market is pretty good. [10:10:44] For reference. I'm currently a journalist in Vietnam. [10:10:56] Also before you ask, yes. I'm a government employee. [10:11:13] journalist for national tv? [10:12:06] sounds like an interesting job [10:12:16] though your vietnamese skills needs to be sharp [10:12:19] idk about english [10:12:35] Ehhh. Writing isn't that hard. [10:12:51] Hanoi TV. But close enough! [10:13:10] Lots of mergers going on right now in the government field. [10:13:26] i see, i don't usually follow the news and just do my own thing [10:13:31] but sounds like it's full of action [10:14:10] You mean losing your job because your workplace got disbanded/merged into another workplace? [10:14:12] Yeah... [10:14:28] oh, i didn't know that, my bad [10:14:56] districts here in hcmc got an merger/reorganization here as well a bit back [10:15:01] to be frank it's rather confusing now [10:15:07] The whole country. Actually. [10:15:15] Yesterday we merged schools. [10:15:39] that is going to be tough, i remember old addresses but not new ones [10:15:59] They also merged provinces. [10:16:05] Saigon is now 10 times its old size. [10:16:10] πŸ₯² [10:17:41] gonna be quite confusing now...well it is what it is [10:18:30] You chat like you live overseas. [10:18:54] i don't, i get mixed often because i don't really follow the news [10:18:56] cause i don't really care [10:19:32] Fair fair. [10:19:58] Probably for the best. Unless you get news from a reliable source. It's mostly celebrity celery news. [10:20:17] "This [Insert famous person] cheated on [Insert famous person]". [10:20:26] mhm, i don't care about drama between people [10:20:32] it's made for clickbait and to generate hate on them [10:20:32] Or tiktok brainrot. [10:20:38] I don't know what's worse really. [10:20:52] Clickbait videos that our parents watch or tiktok brainrot. [10:20:53] reminds me of the Italian Brainrot Wiki for a second there [10:21:09] there is also AI "life lesson" videos that my mom tries to send me [10:21:12] but i legit just ignores it [10:21:35] Drama between people is surprisingly better than uh. Those weird clickbait videos our parents watch. Or those AI videos. [10:29:33] https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.italian.brainrot.meme.quiz.wiki&hl=en_ZA&pli=1 [12:47:58] [1/2] weakest indie wiki editor: [12:47:59] [2/2] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1536355428504571994/gigachad-on-pc-is-originally-from-a-finnish-docuseries-v0-dcp8gshqej4g1.png?ex=6a7b19fe&is=6a79c87e&hm=941edfaa484a86116b4b528dde7dc6857e12a0fd35b5745991cea12ba3e1d828& [14:47:25] trust [15:57:49] notaracham and pixldev: yeah [16:28:16] [1/2] https://youtu.be/Og31diBX8JE [16:28:16] [2/2] @justleafy2003 [16:42:36] https://www.reddit.com/r/technology/s/1rtvJzRSq0 [16:49:55] I am unhappy with that. [16:50:52] Say goodbye to Ggle and hello to DuckDuckGo [16:53:22] In any case, though, I infrequently use Google for searching stuff on wikis at least, I directly type in the url most of the time [16:53:59] Like typing in and just reading thay article from there [16:54:15] Or by using wiki bot in my server for quick previews then visiting the wiki [17:04:46] somehow Google still manages to be the best search engine. I have ddg set as my default but sometimes my searches just give me nothing and I have to re-search on Google [17:10:40] ai enhanced search is fine but the model is eating ai slop data is what you should concern [17:13:33] I agree Google is still better, but it is definitely narrower in terms of scope and what it shows me. I still use it primarily. You can also turn off ai mode by appending `-ai` to search queries. [17:13:33] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUfP6amE7UA [17:14:07] I've used StartPage as a de-personalized Google Search interface pre-Gen AI and it was pretty good, but haven't used it lately [17:22:01] Very similar to the problem which WP:CIRCULAR exists to prevent, except that there they identifed and acknowledged the issue and took steps to prevent it. [17:48:35] [1/4] got into the best uni in my city, nice [17:48:36] [2/4] i wasn't supposed to go into this major but first slot failed to get in but second did thankfully [17:48:36] [3/4] the major in english is apprently "Digital Biotechnology (A specialization within the Biotechnology major)" [17:48:36] [4/4] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1536431081383788564/5EECC333-19CA-4675-B6E3-9D2D5104BFB7.png?ex=6a7b6073&is=6a7a0ef3&hm=c6620358b31cad58671cc8915a607bfc38c8dabf8649b910c5025894372b59f6& [17:48:52] ...which reminds me i quit bio in my high school [17:48:55] just to return again [17:57:01] apparently someone told me i'll be moving uh...genes via computers [17:57:04] which looks to be interesting [17:58:40] Sounds pretty cool tbh [18:00:07] Special:RenamePage/Gene_D19A or something, idk [18:01:04] how do you tie this back to wiking 😭 [18:01:18] well it sounds hella cool, idm doing something like this as long it's not boring [18:01:50] I personally like to tie wiki editing with other things [18:02:01] Even stuff like geopolitics and philosophy [18:02:23] interesting [18:13:56] [1/2] Good news! Overwatch Wiki has forked to https://overwatch.weirdgloop.org [18:13:56] [2/2] https://www.reddit.com/r/Overwatch/comments/1vkrqeb/the_overwatch_wiki_has_moved_from_fandom_to/ [18:14:40] ooh first glooki (im not apologizing for this new term i just invented) to use wg's domain [18:14:52] I always assumed weird gloop wikis have their own domain [18:15:02] They do [18:15:05] Usually [18:15:16] something somethin google jail [18:15:29] Interesting [18:19:36] was about to say [18:20:49] overwatch.wiki is a redirect to that wiki though [18:20:56] According to the reddit post op [18:22:06] whoa nice. i guess the weirdgloop domain will help with SEO? [18:26:24] makes sense [18:27:44] i love u cookmeplox [18:28:39] The leader of the wiki nation [18:28:50] isnt it like [18:29:02] antithetical of the wiki spirit to have a single leader [18:30:39] Unofficial leader [19:28:07] Tell that to the number of people who call themselves β€œwiki owners” [19:31:26] I of all people am one of the more vocally picky about that [19:31:50] But I've made the mistake of being too zealous about that before and put people off by it [19:32:36] technically, you can be a wiki owner if you're part of the community [19:32:44] just not the [19:33:09] transgener [19:34:17] it's leafy of course he did [19:35:02] damn you guys be twisting what should be one of the most important achievements in my life into this lol [19:35:37] don't worry i'll learn how to transform your biology to another gender after uni /j [19:37:11] well if i can actually do it then i'd offer it as a service [19:37:17] yes but if we had to have a leader I would choose cook [19:42:35] oh no totally same [19:49:16] My wiki is owned by me. But then again, it is written by freelancers that are there for the paycheck [19:49:22] Well done [19:49:33] thank you [19:50:04] If your wiki is a public wiki on Miraheze, you do not own it [19:50:18] Self hosted. Own hardware. [19:50:38] My computer hosts three wikis, a minecraft network, and is a the PC [19:50:47] Now the fun of being an adult starts [19:51:01] When will you start Uni? [19:51:01] I'm scared... [19:51:15] Of course you are, that's perfectly normal [19:51:25] soonish, noticed that I got accepted today and I have to confirm the acceptance letter that I will be getting in [19:51:26] You will have no clue what you are doing and you will screw something up [19:51:49] tips are appreciated if you have any [19:51:54] Like weeks? Months? [19:52:10] What do you want tips on? [19:52:10] minor problem: the website responsible is crashing probably due to the massive load [19:52:47] how should i navigate on issues irl or how should i resolve them and in what order/priority [19:53:22] Learn your support networks and try to prepare yourself [19:53:24] but the website should go back up before the whole country hunts the ministry of education down for incompetence [19:53:28] Things will go wrong [19:53:36] But that's fine [19:53:55] Just make sure you know who to ask to help you get back on your feet [19:54:10] The order of how to fix the problems is a hard one because that's kinda unique [19:54:16] <_arawynn> everyone screws up every now and then, people will often times understand when you're honest about it [19:54:31] I mean if your flat burns down, I'd probably deal with that before your assignment due in 2 months [19:54:47] But other than that, that will be unique to you [19:55:36] Don't be afraid to ask for help, ever, you might have done something really stupid but I got enough for a whole series of things me and my friends have done [19:55:38] [1/2] honestly if my house burnt down I wouldn't have an idea what to do lol [19:55:39] [2/2] first thing i should probably do is make sure i'm fine and have somewhere to stay until my house is repaired [19:55:39] It's a long one [19:55:48] feel free to share, idm [19:55:55] Call the fire service for that one [19:56:06] Then whoever is your emergency housing authority [19:56:15] Or like uni security or something [19:56:36] i see, so that's how you deal with that [19:56:59] A university will have a 24/7 office that's able to help with stuff like that [19:57:14] Depending on what sort of housing you're in, other routes would be available too [19:58:25] though what have you and your friend have done... [19:58:31] i'm curious about that [19:58:41] I have everything from appendicitis to loosing keys to voting for the first time to many cycling accidents to having a child to failing exams [19:58:48] All in the list [19:58:55] It's genuinely long [19:59:11] There is very little not on it [19:59:28] hmm, can you just skip voting or that is forced in your region [19:59:43] I can't tell you exactly how things will work locally for you but I can give good general advice [19:59:55] They forgot you actually have to register to vote here [20:00:06] So they missed out [20:00:08] Like half of them [20:00:28] half of the eligible voters? lol... [20:01:19] tho..did some of your friends actually accidentally have an child? that's really concerning because you get a ton of responsibilities [20:01:26] because being a parent is rough [20:01:28] Not accidentally no [20:01:31] especially in today's economy [20:01:38] But they did decide to have a baby during the final year of uni [20:01:41] oh, thank god [20:01:51] I wouldn't advise getting pregnant during your final exams [20:02:02] It didn't do their stress levels or uni results much good [20:02:06] i'd prioritize stability first before a child [20:02:17] like having an actual job first [20:03:02] She did have a job [20:03:12] Getting one of them is a good idea [20:03:18] As long as you can balance work and study [20:03:33] because unis usually cost an arm and a leg [20:03:35] if i remember right [20:03:44] top universities probably don't have that problem [20:03:59] UK universities are a fixed price for home students [20:04:04] And you can get loans [20:04:16] But we were both on a degree apprenticeship so employers were paying [20:05:39] Fearless [20:05:49] You got into uni? [20:05:53] yuh uh [20:05:59] best in the city [20:06:04] wow! [20:06:06] congrats [20:06:09] not necessarily the major i want but interesting enough [20:06:10] thanks [20:06:30] are you majoring in one subject or two? [20:07:16] wouldn't mind learning Digital Biotechnology so i learn how to biologically turn people into different genders they wish out of spite [20:07:43] digital....biotechnology [20:07:52] huh [20:08:01] yeah pretty sure it's scientist like job [20:08:11] like swapping genes [20:08:22] I....see [20:08:32] _works at a science and technology organisation_ [20:08:46] It's fun [20:08:56] what do you do there? [20:08:57] We get to come up with new ideas and see what they break [20:09:02] ah [20:09:04] I'm a software engineer [20:09:53] Sometimes the ideas break my sanity, sometimes we break into new technologies and invent cool things [20:10:02] Sometimes we play around with AI and Video games [20:10:04] software engineers usually don't touch something after it works because you guys are scared it won't work again right? [20:10:22] That sometimes happens [20:10:31] But some of our job is test the art of possible [20:10:52] sky's the limit for your job it seems [20:11:03] that's cool, being the first to discover something new to the world [20:11:06] Nah the governments budget is the limit [20:11:20] That definitely ain't the sky [20:11:43] is the governments budget generous...pretty sure they should be [20:11:50] unless they're stingy [20:12:04] No it's not anywhere near what it should be [20:12:31] Some of our seeing things finally work can be quite uneventful tbh [20:13:21] [1/2] huh...i'd certain pay more for people to find out more stuff, not less [20:13:21] [2/2] well it is what it is [20:13:46] Money doesn't grow on trees [20:13:52] Even for governments [20:14:14] thought governments are quite rich..unless you're the likes of bill gates and elon musk [20:15:03] Not really, no [20:15:08] Lots of governments run budget deficits. [20:15:30] Deficit is one word for it [20:15:37] i guess that is what happens when billionaires try to evade the taxes as much as possible [20:15:45] or wasteful use of money [20:16:26] It's more discrete than saying they spend money they don't have. [20:16:40] _looks at Crapita_ [20:16:59] what is crapita... [20:17:09] A nickname for Capita [20:17:18] They run the civil service pension scheme [20:17:23] It was outsourced to them [20:17:27] It's going badly [20:17:55] And the system that takes you off your GP's list if they make an admin error. [20:18:12] what is GP...||global patroller?|| [20:18:22] General Practitioner, [20:18:31] Everyday doctors, [20:18:33] My work have also said they've underpaid me [20:18:33] i think i never have seen this before, this is new [20:18:37] But not by how much yet [20:19:15] At least they've told you. [20:19:38] That's better than not. [20:19:43] i doubt people would tell you if they underpay you that often [20:21:15] It's to do with holiday pay. Earlier this year they told me I was overpaid by Β£1.51 and took it back. Now they wrote to me and said actually our audit found we've really underpaid you. [20:21:50] They only did it because some of the people affected by the holiday pay overpayments complained and asked for calculations [20:21:55] So they had to audit it [20:22:00] Properly [20:30:26] That's less good then. [20:30:39] Sounds more like they got caught. [20:30:53] i have no idea how does holiday pay or pto work tbh [20:31:03] but it seems like holiday pay is like pto [20:31:07] but scheduled [20:37:41] It will depend on local laws [20:38:07] which i should probably go read some of it/get a lawyer to tell me' [20:38:20] In the UK, the rules say holiday pay must include overtime payments too / and other regular stuff (worked out on an average) [20:38:29] My work wasn't calculating that properly [20:38:51] I'm paid salary so my monthly pay is simply an annual amount / 12 [20:39:24] But sometimes I get extra pay (like if I travel for work and that involves travelling on a Sunday or I work more than my contracted hours and can't take time off ) [20:39:43] So say I worked 52 hours of overtime / travel in a year [20:39:49] That's an average of 1 hour a week [20:40:13] So if I took a weeks holiday, they have to top that up with an extra hour to cover that pay I could have got in overtime [20:40:21] But their maths was garbage [20:40:27] That's a very rubbish explanation [20:40:31] @justanotherdarkmodeuser [20:43:27] if they overpay you they can take it back, but if they underpay you they get sued/punished right? [20:43:33] that [20:44:14] Theoretically yes, but they need to get caught. [20:44:20] [1/2] not for medical services /j [20:44:20] [2/2] (please i am dying in medical bills (but at least not bankrupt?)) [20:44:22] like taxes [20:44:46] They will be paying me the underpayment and correcting my pay [20:44:53] Claire, why r u dying? [20:44:56] Exactly what has to happen depends on the amount [20:45:48] [1/3] For small overpayments, they just take it back. For big ones, they come up with a plan. [20:45:48] [2/3] For underpayments, small ones they just pay back. [20:45:49] [3/3] Big ones, you'd have an argument for interest and consequential losses. [20:46:12] [1/6] gp appt (just happened): $70 [20:46:13] [2/6] estradiol implants: $250 [20:46:13] [3/6] implant insertion: $150 [20:46:13] [4/6] psychiatrist appt: $400 [20:46:14] [5/6] i'm spending $870 on just drugs [20:46:14] [6/6] ugh [20:46:28] GP? [20:46:31] implant?? [20:46:36] general practitioner [20:46:38] 870 on drugs?? [20:46:43] i think in the us they call it a pcp? [20:47:00] implant is for putting 6-12 months of estradiol inside me body [20:47:00] pcp is uhhhh [20:47:07] I see [20:47:11] primary care practitioner [20:47:22] pcp is also like a street drug RIP [20:47:24] basically, first line doc for out patient services, i think? [20:47:44] i think my first ever messages on the discord, you were talking about estradiol [20:47:52] an estrogen supplement or something? [20:48:03] it's, uh, a form of estrogen :p [20:48:15] I see [20:48:25] wow transitioning is expensive [20:48:53] ya [20:49:16] wait I just realized [20:49:18] (psych is for adhd, not hrt) [20:49:29] I always see you online on IRC [20:49:35] do you keep a tab open? [20:49:38] bouncer [20:49:48] bouncer [20:50:13] I assume we arent talking about like a security guard bouncer [20:50:49] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC_bouncer [20:57:28] Crystalite13: yes we all employ security guards to keep wiggling our mice so our connection stays alive [20:57:38] It's a free benefit you get with your miraheze account [20:57:44] how convenient [21:05:31] you guys get a security guard for that? I had to write my own script :( [21:10:37] shoes are just foot prisons [21:10:56] Wizard robes and levitation for all [21:11:20] Maximum comfort around the clock. πŸ˜„ [21:11:24] You must have missed that memo [21:11:41] I'm sure we can make that our next free gift for volunteers [21:12:03] I wonder what customs code a magical wizard robe is [21:14:10] It depends if it's knitted or crocheted apparently [21:17:01] but the implant's going to last a few months at least, right? [21:18:52] depends on if you would get into trouble for breaking it [21:19:17] like if you work at a bank you should probably not fix something that ain't broke [21:20:10] but if you're developing a mediawiki extension that allows admins to put raw html on a page you can just push to prod what's the worst that could happen [21:20:10] Financial and air traffic systems are the worst for legacy stuff [21:20:46] financial and atc system use legacy cause it works right [21:21:00] they cant afford to take it down and upgrade it [21:21:02] unless i'm just dumb [21:21:06] Financial because banks are old and complex [21:21:25] And it takes a lot of planning to take a banks system offline while still making sure you get your money [21:21:35] ATC because that and its safety critical too [21:21:52] You really don't want a plane crash because ATC were updating their code [21:22:22] if you made a change to air traffic control code and a plane crashed because of a bug in the changed code, that would be slightly not good [21:22:44] Safety critical systems are painful to deal with [21:22:57] If anyone ever describes a system as safety critical to you, run a mile [21:23:31] Only slightly, definitely wouldn't be remembered for the next few decades and probably change the industry forever [21:25:55] haha like usopp from one piece [21:28:11] THE ONE PIECE IS REALLLL [21:34:59] https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/615786602454581249/1536488054590803968/image.png?ex=6a7b9582&is=6a7a4402&hm=9fe13ab5a6b8ebbf4252f67073a2a1b9f27af45676d4c9af84a231ac96a7fe0f& [21:35:33] ya but still [21:37:19] the convenience of not taking drugs 3x a day and not taking brain tumor pills ig [21:37:24] Good first step, though I'd like to see more [21:37:46] article [21:38:01] sadly the same model will used to make bypassing tools [21:41:23] yeah that doesn't sound fun, I'd prefer for you to not die thanks [21:43:07] oh, the risk is only after several years (i think decades at my current dose?) [21:44:21] Absolutely, if any of the current crop of llms manage to spend their way out of the money pit, they currently find themselves in and survive, a clear and comprehensive regulatory framework needs to exist if they will keep existing in this world [21:45:02] I'd still prefer that you did live a few more decades [21:45:16] ya same [21:45:23] it's a low risk, but it's a cumulative risk [21:45:41] it's a (albeit low) reason why i'm switching ROAs [21:46:34] it's also to help w my mental health when i can't take my meds (which is the main reason tbh) [22:30:35] I read that as osoup, mmmm soup [23:46:34] Dang, I need dinner soup now [23:46:56] dinner...soup? [23:47:07] are there distinctions between afternoon soup and morning soup? [23:47:32] in Japan there are vending machines of hot corn soup. its common for people to grab them on the way to their workplace in the winter [23:47:55] breakfast soup and lunch soup, actually [23:48:06] I feel like you can kind of lump together lunch and dinner soup [23:50:31] heh I thought that template name would be pretty obvious what it stood for [23:50:49] never thought it might be mistaken for 'soup'; that's kinda funny actually :p